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Jimmy Sebring, a member of the Series-losing Pittsburgh Pirates, hit the first home run in world series history, taking Cy Young deep and in the process becoming the most interesting nonfootball trivia answer out of Pittsburgh.
I looked this up somewhere, if its incorrect, well, then that just makes it even more interesting o.O
I hate playing the Pirates, because we get to hear about the “Storied history of the Pittsburgh Pirates.” I know they were good for short times in the early 1900’s, 50’s and 70’s, but really, come on! They aren’t up there with the Yankees or Cardinals. Hell the Cubs history is more exciting than Pirates history. There best players are Honus Wager, who played 100 years ago and Barry Bonds, who left town before his prime. In between you have Bill Matlcok, Roberto Clemente, and Willie Stargle. NOt that those guys are bad, but please, no one cares about the Pirates. If they left Pittsburgh I bet no one would notice. The Steelers could come out and field a better baseball team than the Pirates.
But would Big Ben wear a batting helmet?
Bill Cowher in an umpire’s face, arguing a call would be fun to watch.
I bet if you gave them a few months to get a feel for the game, they could probably come out and beat the Pirates.
The problem is, Pittsburgh is a truly great sports town, where the fans care just as much but are much less crazy than Philly, and they have had pretty much the worst team in baseball since Barry left. They’ve had a good football team and had a good hockey team while they had Jagr and Super Mario, but the baseball gods have not been kind to them.
Hey, Smitty, the Pirates were terrible in the fifties.
I know something intresting about Pittsburgh…they were dumb enough to name a hockey team “The Penquins”.
Mac, how about a series of retrospectives on Braves greats, both well-known and lesser-known? I’d love to see your take on Hank Aaron and Lew Burdette and Joe Adcock, like when you were talking about the greatest Braves shortstops last year.
What do you think?
I love the whole “Blue collar town” thing. Pittsburgh and Cleveland are all good in my book
Maybe this offseason. Though everyone knows about those guys already, right?
My bad, 1960 they won it all.
I wish I was around when Honus Wagner played. Back then, they didn’t have bases, they had rocks!
I hat that comercial. Ozzie Smith gets on there “The Wzard of Oz stole … bases.”
Ozzie Smith was a good player, but in no way was compairable with RUth, Wagner, or Ripken. Those guys will probably will be voted as the best player ever on thier teams. Ozzie won’t even be close.
Well, Ozzie’s probably the greatest defensive player of all time. But, yeah, I don’t really get the “stolen bases” part, either.
That Wagner baseball trading card is one of the most valueable ever…
586 stolen bases? 714 Home Runs?
Thats like someone saying, “I won 2 million dollars in the lottery!”, and then someone replying “Yea well I won a free 20oz Coke so says this bottle cap”.
“2,632 hot dogs.”
I think Wickman could take him….
Can I get an AMEN! from the boble heads???
All time greates Cards:
1) Stan the Man
2) Bob Gibbson
3) Albert Puljos (yes, he is #3)
234) Tim McCarver
Tim McCarver made the list???? This is an outrage!!!!
“But would Big Ben wear a batting helmet?”
Hey!, that is rude!
He has worked really hard, really hard, to look like Peyton Manning.
I think McCarver would make the list of all time Cardinals, just because he played for them.
Rain moving into eastern Ohio – game may be in jeopardy.
“I think McCarver would make the list of all time Cardinals, just because he played for them.”
Don’t get caught up in technicalities….
When I was a kid in the 1970s, the Pirates were awesome. They had so much hitting they were called “The Lumber Company.” Clemente, Stargell, Al Oliver, RIchie Zisk, Rennie Stennett, Manny Sanguillen and later Dave Parker & Bill Madlock. The Pirates, Reds, & Dodgers (and after 1976 the Phils) were the pretty constant good teams in the entire decade.
A Pirates Story: One time, when I was about 11, I showed up for little league practice only to realize it had been cancelled (no one had told me). As I was about to walk back home, a teammate & his father came by in their car. “Hey, since there’s no practice, you wanna go to Atlanta? We’re going to the Braves-Pirates game!” said Mr. Miller, who was with his son Phil, our booger-eating second baseman.
Mr. Miller was a sadly obese man, but one of those “cool dads,” i.e.—not military, not uptight, not a redneck. I always liked him & Phil. The Millers were quirky & different from most folks in Columbus, but very genuine. So, off we went Atlanta Fulton-County Stadium—in their 1959 Esdel.
We lived 100 miles from the Stadium, but we left around 3 pm, so we got there early enough to see batting practice & I remember that Willie Stargell put on a show.
He’s wriggle that bat & whip it around like a toothpick. It seemed like every swing launched another bomb. He hit one so hard & so far that it hit off the facing of the right-field upper deck—the ball bounced back into rightfield. When he hit it, the few hundred people in the stadium at 5:30 oohed & ahhed. Dunno about anyone else, but I never saw anyone else hit the ball there in the old stadium.
After that display, I was expecting a lotta runs. Unfortunately, Jerry Reuss & the Bucs won 2-1 pitching duel (with the long-lost Mike Thompson). But I’ll always remember Stargell’s batting practice.
Don’t tell me that, Wryn. Just how am I supposed to get through this work day without a Braves Gamecast?
As I mentioned when I was doing my Murphy stuff this winter, one of the reasons Dave Parker isn’t in the Hall of fame is that he got only 350 AB before his Age 24 season, because the Pirates had a outfield of Stargell, Oliver, and Zisk.
“Mr. Miller was a sadly obese man, but one of those “cool dads,” i.e.—not military, not uptight, not a redneck.”
What the heck is being “cool” about not being one of those three?
I got one of the three down real good.
How different would the Pirates’ fortunes be if they had beat the Braves in ’91 and/or ’92 and won a World Series or 2? They haven’t come close to smelling the playoffs since the Slide while the Braves have yet to miss the postseason.
Let’s get the sweep and move to Cincinnati with some momentum for the big Wild Card showdown with the slumping Reds!
They traded Jason Schmidt and they got rid of Aramis Ramirez.
They get rid of good players before their fruit buds, and all they are left with is the stems.
Wow, I don’t know what I just wrote means.
Well, yes, but let’s also keep in mind that even if we pass Cincinnati with a sweep, that’s still not good enough. Wins get us closer, though 🙂
The Pirates were done after 92 win or not. They couldn’t afford to pay Bonds anymore and Bobby Bo had left for New York. Van Slyke was good, but not Barry. Driebeck was done and on his way to Houston.
If you grew up an Army brat like I did in Columbus, Ga., in the 1970s, the fathers generally fell into one of those three descriptions.
The military dads could be scary & intense, especially after they’d get back from Viet Nam. With few exceptions, they weren’t that fun to be around. In fact, they were generally to be avoided.
The uptight ones were generally very religious & completely out-of-step with the modern/pop culture that 11-year-olds generally love. (This is the ’70s, remember, so there was this thing called “The Generation Gap.”) You couldn’t discuss anything interesting with them. Most of the ones I knew didn’t even like baseball.
And the redneck dads (the bad ones) had that always-upsetting racist component. Need I say more about that?
Mr. Miller took his son to rock concerts & ballgames, bought & listened to 8-track tapes with him, spent quality time with him doing things that Phil liked, came to all of his games. In my youthful experience, that was extremely rare.
All time greates Cards:
1) Stan the Man
2) Bob Gibbson
3) Albert Puljos (yes, he is #3)
Pujols has a way to go before he reaches Rogers Hornsby for number 2. I don’t think he has even reached Johnny Mize yet. And Dizzy Dean, Lou Brock, and Ted Simmons all have an awfully good argument and probably ought to all be ahead of Albert so far. I suspect that Pujols will end up in the top 5, and he has an amazing start, but its still just a start.
I think parents that show up to little league games should be asked to leave if they do aynthing other than cheer. There is nothing worse than adults yelling at umpires and kids at games.
I forgot Hornsby, my bad
As a former Little League player, coach & umpire, I hear you.
There best players are Honus Wager, who played 100 years ago and Barry Bonds, who left town before his prime. In between you have Bill Matlcok, Roberto Clemente, and Willie Stargle.
Ralph Kiner (7 straight HR crowns) and Paul “Big Poison” Waner (picture Wade Boggs plus 15 triples a year) would probably both break into the Braves all time starting nine if they were on our club.
You know who was a helluva player for the Cardinals? Ted Simmons.
Dunno how he ranks with the best of that franchise, but he was one of the best-hitting catchers of his era.
1. Stan Musial
2. Bob Gibson
3. Lou Brock
4. Cy Young
5. Ozzie Smith
Since Waner was a right fielder, he would sit on the Braves’ bench.
You have kids, or did you just coach for fun?
11 year olds generally have no idea what they heck they are doing.
As for the redneck ones you mentioned, some were just drunk.
That probably played the biggest part in their whole attitude which you saw.
Stereotypical rednecks from 60’s-70’s to curse at everyone and say things drunk or not drunk.
At least thats the impression I get.
Alchohol can help you to summon the inner a-hole to curse at your own mother and children, much less start throwing expletives at other people for various reasons.
Being drunk and redneck kinda went hand in hand.
And I must admit that you seem to have been the most socially aware 11-year old of whom I’ve ever heard, ububba. 🙂
I would disagree slightly with you about 11-year-olds—some are certainly more aware than others. I know I was.
Many of the rednecks I’m talking about were just plain mean, sober or not. Even by the mid-1970s, they remained resistant to the notion of social or cultural change. If you had long hair or were from a different background, they were brutal. Ever see “Easy RIder”? Kinda like that.
No kids, not yet. Played ball between ages 8-15. Along with my mom (the manager), I coached my sister’s teams between 12-16. Umpired between 13-16. All for fun & family (except the umpiring, which I did for money.)
I coached two years for fun and I umped one year. I had some coach poke me in the chest after I called his kid out at third on a bang bang play. He was pissed and said that his kid was safe (though I was standing right on top of the play. He came running across the field and started scraming at me. At first I thougth it was funny, but then he poked me in the chest. I tossed him. He walked to his dugout and tried to pump up the croud (at a little league game) Another coach on the team came and took the baseball out of my hand and threw it over the fence. I told him to go pick up the ball or I would throw him out. I made him walk out there get it and hand it to me. He called me an asshole, so I tossed him.
Both guys were on the board of directors at the park and had to stay away for a week. After that I got to umpire like three more times. I decided I never wanted to be a part of that crap again.
9:35 start time? There goes my morning. Again.
Let’s put this one away early. I’ve got stuff to do today.
csg, how do you justify Cy Young as the #4 Cardinal of all time? He only pitched in St. Louis for two years.
Man, I wish I hadn’t missed that game last night. I had a dangerously high fever last night and I had to get rushed to an immediate care center. After testing negative to strepth throat and the flu, they had to transport me by ambulance to the hospital. They did blood cultures, CAT scan, and a spinal tap, and they still couldn’t find out what is wrong with me. But, such is life, I’ll be on my back watching Baseball Tonight for the next couple days.
Get better, Rob. I’ll say a word or two for you. Even though you’re a Gator fan.
A spinal tap? Wow that’s rough. My sympathies.
Get well soon Rob.
Wow Rob, that is horrible. It sounds like you have caught Kolbmania, while the rest of us are feeling chipper with Wickmania.
Haha, nice story Smitty. I umpired Little League, AAU, and high school games for a good 4 years, and I had something similar to that happen to me in my second year of umpiring.
All throughout the first 4 innings, this “father” jeering me from behind the back stop over balls and strikes. I’m a pretty mild-mannered guy on baseball fields, so after the fourth I motioned him over to me and I told him that if he said one more thing about balls and strikes that he was going to get tossed. He gave me a “whatever” look, so I just walked away. Well anyway, in the 5th, his quite obese son (who played in right field, if that tells you anything; this was little league) grounded out, tripped on the bag, laid there for about 5 minutes, and when he got up to go back to the dugout, he slammed his helmet down. I told the kid that if he did that again, he’d get tossed (little league rules say that I should have tossed him immediately, but… eh) so that “father” got all up in my face and said “CAN’T YOU SEE MY SON IS HURT?!?!” So I said obviously, but that he couldn’t throw his helmet because another kid could have gotten hurt. So he gets in my face again and said “I WILL SNAP YOU LIKE A TWIG!” So I had to toss him and police had to escort him out. In 4 years, he was the only guy I had to throw out. Many more have deserved it though.
I just feel bad for the kids of those guys.
I hated having to toss those guys, but deep inside it was cool.
Spinal Tap? Yikes.
While I was playing in a Senior League game, my pitcher’s father (who was in the stands) got in a disagreement with the home plate ump over his strike zone. Finally, the ump took off his mask, turned to the tiny grandstand behind home plate & admonished him “for the last time.”
Somehow, that set him off. He came running around the fencing, ran onto the field, put his hands around the ump’s neck and lifted him up on the backstop. I was at first base & I remember the umps feet dangling. Our coach, a Viet Nam vet, finally separated them.
The dad was arrested & banned from the park. His son, of course, was humiliated.
As they say, “Like weddings, Little League isn’t for the kids, it’s for the parents.”
Remember the umpire in Angels in the Outfield who tells Danny Glover, “I saw what I saw!”? He’s probably my favorite ever movie umpire.
Him, or the guy in Field of Dreams who tells Moonlight Graham, after the kid gets thrown at and asks for a warning, “Sure; watch out ya don’t get killed.”
Today we ar rooting for:
Cubs, twice (double header)
Thank you very much, fellas.
As for the spinal tap: either I had a really good doctor, or the perception of the pain from a spinal tap is way overrated. He did the anesthesia, went in, went out, and he was done. The doctor and I actually had a conversation through all of it. Not bad at all.
Don’t go buy hats for these teams or anything. We will have to turn on the Dodgers soon.
2 of those are are current (Mets) or former (Dodgers) most hated rivals, and the others are teams who have eliminated us from the playoffs in the past decade. I don’t think I care for WC races.
Chris Duffy and his .243 OBP in 110 PAs leading off again today. Jim Tracy is hilarious.
Or you’re just a bad, bad man, Rob.
Haha, yeah right Smitty.
After watching Kolb, Reitsma and Sosa try and “save” games for us… Rob has become immune to pain
Predictions? I say we lose, 5-1.
I wonder if we could kidnap Freddy Sanchez?
I wonder if they could kidnap Todd Pratt…
Predictions? I say we lose, 5-1.
Hot day, Hudson, Chacon, I’ll take a Braves 9-7 victory. Baez and Wickman are called on again and they begin to wonder if Bobby intends to have them pitch in every game the rest of the season.
Stu, if we can only get 1 run off of Chacon we are in trouble. Huddy vs Chacon, I say we win 9-7
Nice call Robert
If I’m predicting a loss, then I am agreeing that we’re in trouble.
LaRoche is out. Didn’t he say he would be back in a couple days though?
He should be back from his injury in a couple of days. that or he forgot to come to the park.
That’s what he says, but I’d be more interested in hearing what Jeff Porter says.
Braves win this one 5-4. The Good Hudson and the Bad Bullpen make it more exciting than it needs to be.
NY Giants 53-37 (–)
Chicago Cubs 52-43 (3.5 GB)
St. Louis Cardinals 51-46 (5.5)
Boston Braves 46-45 (7.5)
Cincinnati Reds 46-49 (9.5)
Philadelphia Phillies 43-49 (11)
Pittsburgh Pirates 40-51 (13.5)
Brooklyn Robins 39-50 (13.5)
Cards 000 000 000 – 0 3 1 LP- Grimer
Braves 000 000 001 – 1 5 2 WP- Tyler
Lefty Tyler had to do it all today: pitch a nine-inning shutout and single to get on base and score the winning run (on an error by the Cards’ SS, Butler). Braves are above .500 for the first time since Opening Day… of last season.
Could we have coordinated it where both announcers wear ties or neither do?
at least we are sending out our ACE today to finish off the sweep and also his 5+ ERA
Hey, Don and Pete today!
How disgusting is the fat shirtless guy in the stands behind any LHB?
“If you had long hair or were from a different background, they were brutal. Ever see “Easy RIder”? Kinda like that.”
Easy Rider is a pile of crap.
That movie was hilariously stupid.
Long hair on a guy, escpecially a pontail makes me cringe.
Have seen a ponytail on a guy?
I would shoot a guy from a truck if I saw a ponytail on him.
Out of sheer mercy.
Hooray for useless jumps.
LaRoche is out. Didn’t he say he would be back in a couple days though?
Yes Dr. LaRoche said it would be a few days. I guess we can all rest easy.
You’re with me 1-0 lead…
ha ha ha Davey.
There is your one Stu
Damn.. I’ll probably miss the final couple of innings of the game. Need to go do things for work around 2 pm 🙁
Well LaRoche said this has happened twice before, and he was making that statement based on the time it’s taken him to get back. I think that kinda qualifies him to predict how long he’ll be out.
I wonder if the hammy was the reason for his 0 for August last season…
Joe just ripped Jeff for swinging at the first pitch
Hey, Smitty, I’d be glad to be wrong.
Nice job, Jeff. It seems like he’s had a lot of infield pop-ups lately.
Great job Frenchy.
I’m gonna stop defending you now
Adam’s hammy is the reason Devine got lit up last year
He really is a stupid hitter. Getting pretty old.
Hackcoeur is so clutch.
Thought of the remaining eight Pirates fans: “For Craig Wilson and Oliver Perez we got this ******* guy?”
Second thought: “When is the Steelers first preseason game?”
There’s the Franceour I know.
Hackoeur, that is classic
Ha ha ha Smitty 😀
Jeff’s braindead approach to hitting is starting to irritate me. Somebody needs to beat it into his head that when the pitcher doesn’t throw a strike to the previous hitter it might be a good to take a few pitchers.
The Pirates have the dumbest sound effects ever.
ponytail on guy…eewwww
Come on Tim, if you are going to pitch like Tommy, can you please have better control?
Timmy’s pitches were all pretty damn straight and flat…
When I coached little league two kids in a row were walked on 8 total pitches. We had a good hitter comming up and I gave him the take sign (we were down three). He took the pitch and it was a strike (but was really outside). the kids dad yelled, “Why did you take that?” and the kid pointed at me.
His dad came up to me and said, “Why did you tell your best hitter to take?”
I told him, “A good hitter shouldn’t have to be told to take that pitch.”
He was confused.
I hat that New Balance commercial where the SS does like 70 crow hops and attempts to read the signature of the ball. If you’re going to get self-righteous and lecture “running out a grounder”, perhaps you could add in “making a routine play” as well? McCann would have been safe.
I am a big fan of Frenchy but it is starting to get old, girls on my softball team make better adjustments than him.
P.S. Hudson blows.
I also hate it… conflicting emotions.
Bobby Cox or Pat Dye – you make the call.
4 straight balls and Jeff is swinging away immediately. That’s pretty sad considering back in HS we would yell at hitters coming up to the dish, “FOUR STRAIGHT” so that they would get the idea that the pitcher is wild. That’s high school stuff, and Francouer still isn’t getting it.
Stu, totally agree. I like it when McCann walks and Frenchy starts swinging at the 1st pitch. Why would anyone ever throw him a stike?
Well, according to Smitty, it goes even younger: little league stuff. Come on, Jeff…
The football mentality is really getting old, just like Brian Jordan…
Gotta like Adam’s rugged Chuck Norris look
Nice play Thor
Hudson has a guy at second and a batter at the plate.
Ball Dropped, Duffy at third…how the ehck did that happen?
Duffy must have walked because he can’t hit.
Yeah, but Smitty, it’s freaking Little League. I agree that you should put on the take sign, but in Little League, nobody’s a “good” hitter, if by “good,” you mean studious and thoughtful. If I were that kid’s dad, I would have been tempted to punch you in the face for that self-righteous garbage.
Laroche Texas Ranger.
We’re ties, Hudson gives it up.
Please pitch around Bay…
Bad-Hudson (read: The Glenwood Gator) here in the first.
Seriously, there is absolutely no reason to pitch to Bay there. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
3 stolen bases in the inning…..
Jason Bay = good. Rest of Pirates team since Willie Stargell left, other than Barry Bonds = terrible.
Tuss Hudtiz, check the runner every so often?
Man, they are running on McCann today. Does he have good stolen base numbers?
They have exactly one dangerous hitter, yet we continue to pitch to him with men on base. There is really no excuse for that, it’s just dumb.
Even Piazza can steal a base on Hudson…
The base-stealing…is it Hudson or McCann or both?
Black jack Mcdowell.
Right field fair 2-1.
HUDSON SUCKS HARD!
ah yes… Pirates lead. how nice
Doesn’t McCann have a pretty good arm? So is this all on Hudson?
Can we DFA Hudson? I mean, come on, this is ridiculous.
Obviously I don’t want to DFA, but I think he’s got to go.
Randa had a 1.000 OPS 2002-2005 against us. I would have been tempted to walk him.
oh lord…so we have three more years of Hudson?!
Well, I guess everyone is dangerous with Hudson out there.
We are going to need double figures today.
which good young pirates is sutton talking about, that the team is building around?
Hudson’s just in a slump, in which he will never pull out of.
Hudson looks like Russ Ortiz and has about the same contract….
Don just said this team needs to build around Nady. Ha.
yes, everything is Hudson’s fault.
The fact that I have to go to work in an hour is also his fault
Keep scoring guys…it’s going to be a long game I afraid…
Sutton is a goober, he think everyone is good.
another ad council pos.
People I would rather see in the Braves’ rotation than Tim Hudson:
Don’t forget Kim Hudson.
Bravos in ESPANOL!!!!
I love that women, lets hear her instead of these two old guys!!!
Hudson couldn’t get Stephen Hawking out with a runner on second.
yes, they are getting a great jump off of Hudson, he has a slow delivery too.
He is really horrible, its amazing that this guy was once very good.
really, what the hell do we do with him? he’s basically a 5th starter, like most of our staff.
4Seam… her Spanish is pretty flacid though. But atleast hearing her insult Hudson in Spanish would make my day somewhat better
Chacon is walking people. Langerhans is coming up.
Let’s start a Braves Journal dog house and put Hudson and Frenchy in there…
Frenchy, are you watching the game at all?!
..and Bob Rathbun, Jeff Torborg..
Robert don’t you mean Kim Jong-Il or [Name Redacted]?
Another walk by Chacon would be nice.
Good call, Wryn, they deserve to be in the dog house as well.
Pinch hit for Hudson!
Remember, Hudson also sucks at bunting.
While Langerhans walked, Frenchy struck out in the dug-out…
I don’t know who is worse, chacon or hudson.
patience *is going to be a virtue*…..TODAY?
How about all freakin year?!?!
Hudson better get this bunt down.
Wow, Chacon’s really not throwing very many strikes. Maybe, just maybe, somebody in the dugout will notice this and remember to tell Francoeur.
Hudson better get this bunt down.
I think the contract figures answer that question, Hate King.
Just give Hudson the take sign every pitch. He might walk. Anything else he’s going to ____ up.
The woman sounds pretty, and she isn’t Sutton.
I’ll take it.
Hudson did something good.
Don’t know if he’d make the Cardinals’ top five of all-time, but Enos Slaughter was a hell of a player, and is probably actually in hell right now, the racist old goat. Still, a great player with a greater name, and he used to sell tobacco to my grandfather up in North Carolina, so I feel compelled to bring him up right now.
put Huddy on waivers
Sometimes I think I hate Hudson. Right now is one of those times.
ermoore, we ahd te same thought.
minus the bad spelling
I hate watching him pitch like Lance Cormier
this is going to be a long game.
Giles sucks. Hudson sucks.
RED X DOGHOUSE PNG
That’s awesome Mac, I wonder how many people can that doghouse fits into? We may need a bigger one…especially after this half inning…
Shameful. 2nd and 3rd, 1 out, and we get nothing. Aybar’s a rookie, but Giles just sucks.
I’m remembering why I try not to watch or listen to these games anymore.
good job Mac, can you get Frenchy’s pic. in there too
Chacon is throwing junk.. we should have atleast 3 runs right now..
Well, Davey, too bad the team don’t have enough professional hitters…
3 up 3 down, wow that was a suprise.
well, the bottom of the pirates lineup is terrible
Just wait, 4Seam, the real Huddy will show up eventually. Boy, we are all in good mood today, aren’t we?
I think Smoltz needs to beat the crap out of Hudson.
Heart of the order coming up. Time to get the lead back. If Franceour swings at the first pitch, Bobby should just replace him with Diaz mid at bat.
Renty, Jones, and McCann. Two of our best hitters, we need to do somehing here
This is a game we lose. We have left four men on base already
how many pitches was Renty’s at bat
Robert, Diaz will be swinging at the first pitch as well…
THen Diaz will over run all balls hit to him in the outfield.
When I think Joe Randa, I think cheshire cat.
What do you guys think of Utley’s hit last night? Some people don’t think it was a hit, but I think it was.
Shawn Friggin’ Chacon just blew thru the meat of our order. Pathetic.
Everyone swinging at the 1st pitch again. Make this guy throw pitches, fire TP
I would fire Auntie Roger before firing TP.
Why McCann can’t play every day
Rob, the one in the 8th should have been an error in my opinion, but the rule book says that if a player is looking a runner back to the bag and throws over late it is ruled as a hit. The one in the ninth was definitely a hit
Laroche is out.
Hudson is on the mound.
Sutton is announcing.
But we still have the Texas Pete Bottle Mascot.
WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!
I thought both hits were suspect. The one in the 8th was probably a hit, but the one in the 9th should have been a error. A good shortstop makes that play.
He actually struck Sanchez out??
I think that after the first inning theuy brought in some of those Coors Field humidor balls in the interest of finishing this game in under five hours.
Jeff, Jeff, Jeff.
Don’t worry guys, I am getting on the phone to him right now.
Bobby needs to kick Jeff in the back of his head now…
I would have batted longer but I needed to go to the bathroom.
WE GOTTA HIT! Sort of….
he is terribly over-rated, except by those on this board.
Joe is calling for Jeff to sit out a game.
Time for Hudson to screw this up
Let him swing!
Turn my head for a second an Franceour fouls out. Oh well, he’ll probably do it again later.
Wow a double steal!
Time for a squeez, ugh
Just stand there…
Wow, both teams are going crazy on the basepaths.
double steal? hugh
Hudson can’t do anything.
well the double steal could be useless unless Aybar comes through.
this is pissing me off
Oh boy. Again with 2nd and 3rd, one out, and again, we get nothing. Are we in some kinda stranding runners-in-scoring-position contest?
Also, I missed Francoeur’s AB, did he make an out on the first pitch . . . again?
Great. Franceouritis is apparently infectious.
The TP firing needs to be infectious
What’s the grace period for Aybar? I mean how long until I can point out the Betemit is 5-12 with the Dodgers and currently sports a .517 slugging percentage. Because I really want to.
Well if Betemit was here, we probably would have lost the last two games because Ray or Paronto would have ptiched the 8th in the last two games. Aybar has been pretty good at getting on base
At least Ayber is looking pretty smooth at third…
Aybar is playing well too, I dont know the numbers off the top of my head.
Nice catch by Frenchy
Hudson has changed his arm angle. Let’s get some runs.
I am very encouraged by Hudson’s strikeout totals today.
Alright, well, I gotta meeting now. Hope we’re up when I get back. It would really suck to sit through a meeting and then come back and still be down.
Let’s hope an appearance in the doghouse is the turning point for Hudson this season…
1st pitch swinging again, I dont know why I watch this crap
I guess druw’s avg is back below .270 now
I’ve wanted to come on here and blast Hudson as well (and I even played summer league ball with him years ago), but haven’t we forgotten how many gems he has thrown over the last two years that have been blown by ineffective relievers? How many more wins should he have had last year- 5 maybe?
Even Roger Clemens would be pressing a bit with that lack of support.
It is good to see the K’s today.
6K’s 1 BB, that’s not bad
Wow, nice play Edgar…
We’ll see how Hudson does in the sixth. The last three games, that’s been his undoing. Three games back he gave up four to the Cards, two games back it was three to the Phils, and last game he was mostly responsible for the seven run sixth the Mets hung on us.
Nice Frenchy, this is getting very annoying.
Atta boy Hackcoeur. What is that, 4 pitches in 3 ABs?
It has seemed that Hudson has pitched very well in most innings but has completely fallen apart in one inning of every start…
Which isn’t necesarily good but is definitely not Weaver-esque throughout the whole outing… Seems like this pattern could be studied and corrected?
It has seemed that Hudson has pitched very well in most innings but has completely fallen apart in one inning of every start…
Obviously this profile screams “Struggles when pitching from the streatch” or “Tips his pitches when pitching from the streatch” or something of the like. I assume these are things they are working on.
2 runs thru 5 innings agianst the pirates and Shawn Chacon. That should be good enough for a lead. Todays situation isn’t Hudson’s fault. If he can keep it up hopefully we can get 3 runs today.
He’s having an Episode!
situations like these 2 on, 1 run game, 0 outs are situations where your top of the line pitchers can get out of, lets see what hudson can do… cross your fingers
Good another run
There’s the Hudson we’ve all come to love and adore.
It’s about to get real ugly. Welcome to a Tim Hudson sixth inning.
here we go…two singles and a walk. Probably should pull him now and try Paronto
Hudson can’t pitch, can’t tie his shoes.
need a k here
Thanks for the free out Jim.
roll a pair here boys
atta boy guys, DP…we still have a chance..
If you believe in the definition of a “quality start” Hudson has one today.
whew, i’ll take it, not a bad day for hudson 6 innings 3 runs, SHOULD be the lead going agianst a guy with a 7 ERA, UGH!
SO whats the vegas line that in Francoeurs next at bat he will see 3 or more pitches?
still 101 pitches through 6 isnt very good. Does have 6 k’s
Decent outing from Huddy.
C’mon, big inning here.
Thank you Jim Tracy. Gives up a free out when Hudson is struggling and then pinch hits a catcher when we need a double play. God bless him.
our offense is night and day, only 3 hits…
Stu, your predicion of a 5-1 loss looks pretty good
good inning by Paronto. I bet we have 3 pitches 3 outs in the top of the 8th
It looks accurate, but it doesn’t look good.
Here’s what I look like right now:
Big fella got the job done. It’s needs to happen right now.
Here’s what I look like. (Coming)
But with more hair, and no tie.
I love Bay.
that’s nice Mac, keep that one available.
What did Bay do?
Misjudged another flyball…
Renteria seems to come up with clutch strikeouts when we need them least.
Atta baby Andruw!!
There’s one back. Come on, McCann.
Yay, Andruw! Brian, get out your walking shoes.
Over/under on pitches seen by Francoeur after the inevitable IBB: 1 1/2.
Andruw almost advanced to 3rd there when the infielder tried to barehand the ball that came back, it got away and somebody ran over to cover third.
Closing in. C’mon Brian.
Mac, I believe they are bringing in Marte to face McCann…
heres what sucks, we are banking on McCann getting a hit agianst a nasty lefty b/c we know francoeur is going to suck it up. Goes to show you how weak our lineup is right now..
No, J, Francoeur is really clutch because he has a bunch of 2-out RBI.
Mac, I’ll take the under.
Absolutley. We should be pulling for McCann to make an out because Mr. 2-out RBI will take over. He is of course worthless with one out.
Torres making his 66th appearance – geez!
I love the 2 out RBI stat. Also, they said last night he’s batting .238 w/ RISP and 2 outs. That’s great
Torres coming in to face Frenchy…
Stu, thats a bunch of garbarge. He’s hitting .235 with 2 outs. He got a lot of 2 out 2 and 3 run homers but that doens’t mean he produces consistantly with 2 outs
Jim LaTracy really workin’ this one.
csg, you took the words out of my mouth!
J, I think he was being sarcastic!
J, I was being sarcastic. If you’ve observed these threads for very long, you should know what I think of those stats.
i hope! 🙂
I like the chance to facing Torres than Marte…we will see…
awful!!!!!!!!!!!!! He sucks so bad!!!
watch him hit a 2run HR on the 1st pitch
Seriously, bench this guy. He’s killing our offense, and he refuses to learn.
why’s he gotta be so damn predictable.
nevermind, this guy sucks and why doesn’t someone tell him that..
can we get Bobby’s email address
Bobby would never bench is precious francoeur, however he would bench A. Jones when he was younger? hmm
At least we have the 7-8-9 spots in our order coming up in the 9th.
No way csg, I refuse to believe Bobby would use technology.
Mac, you have to take Huddy out of the doghouse and Frenchy has to be there. He absolutely kills us and is worse than Huddy
You know, I hate to say it, but Adam LaRoche NOT being in the lineup is killing our offense.
thor, diaz, orr, and aybar in the 9th…yep, this one’s over and a special thanks to Frenchy for being the worst hitter in baseball. He does have a lot of two out RBI’s though. That’ll be good enough to keep him in the lineup
Is anybody else thinking Thorman-LaRoche-Diaz next inning is pretty potent for the bottom of the lineup?
AAR, weird, huh?
My guess is Thor, Diaz, LaRoche.
Is Adam available to pinch-hit?!
Mmm, you may be right, JoeyT.
Guys, I left very specific orders that we were to be winning when I got back from my meeting. What’s the problem here?
Hmm, give me a minute.
I think Ray feels better now that he knows he is not the only arm in the pen.
Jeff Francoeur happened.
I may have a brain aneurysm if Landogarner comes on here defending Francouer at the expense of LaRoche again. I’m serious; it could happen.
ermoore, its called Jeff Francouer being in the lineup
oops. Ityped that before Nady.
Just happy to be there…
Awesome Mac, that’s exactly what I want to see.
bull pen did great today, definitely have to get the leadoff on here
thanks Mac, and he should stay there until he draws a walk
So, we put two into the doghouse today. I hope we don’t need to put more people in it…
I don’t blame Hudson.
First and third in 1st inning with two outs, first pitch pop-up.
Second and third in 2nd inning with one out and no runs.
Second and third in 4th inning with one out and no runs.
Francoeur has produced four outs and seen five pitches, nothing even out of the infield and three where pop-ups.
Missing: Clutch hitting.
I think he should keep that up on the main page like he did with the picture of Schuerholz with a Royals shirt and evil horns. Every week, just updated it with who is sucking the most. I think Francouer may take it for the rest of the year though.
I know what’s wrong. According to the title of this thread, this game was supposed to be played yesterday.
Now we get to see why Alex keeps trying to get the Braves to trade for Mike Gonzalez.
SERIOUSLY?!?!? TODD PRATT?!?!?
There’s nothing left to say.
Now that Thorman isn’t on base, who else thinks the only chance the Braves have is a Diaz HR?
ugh, Pratt’s our savior. Give me a break
Oh, yeah. You see, I swapped yesterday’s thread and today’s for some reason and I forgot to fix the name.
I would rather Ken Ray hit
Well, we won the series. I wanted a sweep.. but if we take 2/3 from the Reds, I guess I’ll be happy.
I think Bobby should fine Jeff $1000.00 for swinging at 1st pitches. That might teach him a lesson
If you must PH Pratt, why not Diaz first? Bobby’s senile.
See, even if Diaz gets on base here, Aybar’s up next. Diaz has to circle the bases to tie this up. Only shot.
0-2 count, no chance thanks Jeff!
I think Bobby should send Jeffrey to the plate WITHOUT a bat in his hands. That’ll teach him to take some pitches…
Either that or he’ll swipe at them with his hands
Diaz came thisclose to inadvertently slamming into the ump.
Well, I hate to say it, but I just gave up on the playoffs. Shawn Chacon just beat us.
How on earth they can only score one run off Chacon?!
Giving the Pirates three runs is like giving the Phillies nine.
Chacon and Wright have both beaten us w/ Huddy on the mound. Also, our RF can TAKE A FREAKIN PITCH, seriously he needs to be on the bench.
I think Jeff Francouer is the MVP of our team.
“If you must PH Pratt, why not Diaz first? Bobby’s senile.”
Probably because Diaz was already in the game.
Laroche is the heart of our offence?
Heh. Didn’t catch that. I’m senile.
But we still shouldn’t have lost this game.
Francoeur and Randa are notorious Braves killers. I think we need to seriously consider paying both to retire, see if that record doesn’t show some improvement. I know Randa alone would be worth two wins a year.
That’s why Pena should be our backup and not Pratt. At least he would give me hope.
Can Pratt throw? Is that why he’s up here instead of Pena?
Francoeur should be Exhibit A for those arguing the overreliance on counting stats.
The last game thread I was on was the first game in the Mets series, and now this one. I think I should wait for the recaps for now on. I’m not superstitious, but hey, you never know.
NB: I was kind of kidding with Francoeur, and actually pretty serious with Randa.
It’s a lame reason but I think Bobby would say Pratt is here to be a mentor to McCann. I say, then let him be a coach.
I wonder if Brayan Pena is good enough to be a Johnny Estrada-type player. We could deal him in the offseason, but hopefully get more than Villarreal and Cormier.
Rob, I think I would like to see Pena on the team next year. He would give us a good backup and a reliable pinch hitter.
No way Pena would get more than Estrada brought. Pena’s unproven, whereas Johnny was only a year removed from being an All-Star.