I don’t really have a joke here. Recap is liable to be late tonight.
Anyway, it appears that draft pick compensation is no more, either this offseason or next. Hard to tell what the results of this would mean. It should make free agents cost slightly more while making the trade value of veterans approaching free agency less. It makes it a lot more likely that the Braves will trade Marcus in the offseason since he would leave without compensation afterwards.
That being said, a few years ago compensation was supposed to be dead and it wound up part of the CBA anyway.
gotta have the 1st one!!!!
2nd post Beeyatches!!!
I’m here. I’m tired and my feet hurt, but I’m here.
3rd post!!! YEAH!
this draft pick thing will be interesting, I think it will do away with the half year rentals…time will tell
Schmidt against Hudson? Not good.
Depends on which Hudson shows up.
I’ll take the Oakland Huddy anyday
sh**, i’ll take auburn Huddy
Today’s Brian McCann for MVP update:
Here are stats for the first full seasons (100+ games) for Brian McCann’s season (also 100 games) against 9 of the best offensive catchers ever–seven HOFers and two active.
Bill Dickey 10/65, .324/.346/.485 (.831), age 22
Johnny Bench 45/148 .293/.345/.587 (.932), age 22
Mickey Cochrane 6/55 .331/.397/.448 (.845), age 22
Gabby Hartnett 16/67 .299/.377/.523 (.900), age 23
Gary Carter 17/68 .270/.360/.416 (.776), age 21
Yogi Berra 14/98 .305/.341/.488 (.829), age 23
Carlton Fisk 22/61 .293/.370/.538 (.908), age 24
Javy Lopez 14/51 .315/.344/.498 (.832), age 24
Mike Piazza 35/112 .318/.370/.561 (.931), age 24
Brian McCann 16/66 .341/.395/.556 (.951), age 22
Brian McCann’s OPS is the highest on the list, and his slugging is third-highest. His homers and RBIs are comparable to everyone but Mike Piazza, the greatest offensive catcher ever, and Johnny Bench, who won the MVP with a career year at age 22. Brian McCann is not only the Braves’ offensive leader, not only is he putting up comparable numbers to seven HOFers and Mike Piazza, he’s having one of greatest debut campaigns for a catcher, OF ALL TIME.
B-Mac for MVP!
The season you have for Bench was his third full season in the league. He’d played 154 games in 1968 and 148 games in 1969 before the 1970 season you supplied.
Equivalent Averages for the same hitters:
Fisk .322
Piazza .318
McCann .316
Bench .304 in his 1970 season
Hartnett .300
Berra .283
Lopez .280
Bench .278 in his 1968 season
Carter .277
Dickey .277
Cochrane .274
What was Mauer’s EQA (his line was .294 .372 .411) last season?
1914 Update:
NY Giants 62-50 (–)
Boston Braves 62-51 (.5 GB)
St. Louis Cardinals 64-56 (2)
Chicago Cubs 61-56 (2.5)
Cincinnati Reds 54-60 (9)
Brooklyn Robins 53-62 (10.5)
Philadelphia Phillies 51-61 (11)
Pittsburgh Pirates 52-63 (11.5)
Today’s Games:
Boston 000 100 012- 4 5 1 WP- James
St.Lou 000 000 000 – 0 4 1 LP- Perritt
Boston 001 100 04 – 6 5 0 WP- Strand
St.Lou 000 202 00 – 4 7 5 LP- Sallee
Over 25,000 people- a truly massive crowd in those days- saw the Braves win two games at Robison Field, the second called after eight innings because of darkness. The Braves’ 8th inning rally in game two saw those four runs score on one hit (a Maranville triple), a couple of walks, and two errors.
Reds won again, but don’t worry about them. They’ll go 6-34 the rest of the way.
And playing his last game is a fellow whose name I’m glad I don’t have- Everitt Booe, from Mocksville, NC. An outfielder playing for Buffalo and Indy in the Federal League, he hit .224 without a HR in 300 PA. I’m sure he got to hear his name a lot this season.
Mauer’s EqA was .285 last year and .326 this season.
Thanks, Brian and Mac. By all accounts, a historic season by Brian. (By the way, what’s Equivalent Average?)
another useless stat
It’s the Baseball Prospectus version of an all-in-one stat, meant to express a player’s contributions on a scale similar to the traditional batting averages. Average is about .270, .300 is good, etc. I personally am leery of all-in-one stats because the variation among players is important (two players with a .270 EQA or 4.8 RC/27 can have very different stats and have contributions that are very different depending on the role they play) but they serve a purpose.
From ESPN: The Boston Red Sox are actively shopping veteran pitcher David Wells to determine what they could get if they decide to trade the lefty in the next 48 hours.
Thoughts?
I think I brought up David Wells up last week, I wouldn’t mind having him for the final couple of weeks. The Red Sox would have to send cash though.
ESPN is showing David Ortiz, Manny Ramirez, Wily Mo Pena, & David Wells on their way back to Boston. Ortiz, Ramirez, and Pena all have injuries but they haven’t said why David Wells was going with them.
To all of those who read and/or responded to my “Andruw should be traded this summer” remark from the previous thread, my apologies. I’m in school-mode — thinking the “break” between “sessions” comes in the summer — and I really meant to say he should be traded in the offseason this winter. The moral of this story: you should ignore me.
AAR, I like your style and I respect your opinion…but B-Mac ain’t the League MVP this season. He’s almost certainly the Braves MVP, but this year, I don’t think that’s saying much. And I’m not sure why him being one of the greatest rookie catchers of all time means he should be given MVP consideration…shouldn’t he be compared to other players in 2006?
I bet that was a hell of a ride…with Big Papi, Manny and David Wells.
Davey’s boys just can’t stay out of trouble.
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=AsGf2lZtJQ1Ht8jJkd8bggocvrYF?slug=ap-t25-miami-moore&prov=ap&type=lgns
You can go ahead and write it down- Carlos Beltran will be the NL MVP. He’s the best player on by far the best team in the NL, with statistics that place him among the top echelon in the league.
That doesn’t mean Beltran actually is the best player in the league, but with no other team able to get more than a few games over .500, I think MVP voters are going to conclude that the MVP must be a Met. (I’m not saying this is right, just that it’s what will happen given the past behavior of MVP voters.)
NL MVP:
1. Albert Pujols
2. Alfonso Soriano
3. Carlos Beltran
4. David Wright
Correction, my personal top five for NL MVP:
1. Albert Pujols, 2. Alfonso Soriano, 3. Carlos Beltran, 4. Ryan Howard and 5. David Wright
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/jon_heyman/08/29/nl.busts/index.html
Look who comes in at no. 1…
Well, at least Marcus is sharing that honor with his brother.
Giles is begging to come back next year, but the Braves have Aybar, Orr and Prado; all cheaper. Hmm….
Todays lineups.
S.Finley CF
O.Vizquel SS
S.Hillenbrand 1B
B.Bonds LF
R.Durham 2B
M.Alou RF
P.Feliz 3B
E.Alfonzo C
J.Schmidt P
M.Giles 2B
E.Renteria SS
C.Jones 3B
A.Jones CF
B.McCann C
J.Francoeur RF
A.LaRoche 1B
R.Langerhans LF
T.Hudson P
“R.Langerhans LF”
I guess that home run against the Nationals means more playing time.
usually does…1 good performance means another 5 bad ones with us
Unless you’re actually good, as Marcus demonstrated once upon a time.
Barry Bonds, despite his off-year, still has an aura floating around him every time he steps to the plate that he’ll hit a home run.
that tends to happen when you’re close to being the all-time homerun leader…
Introducing tonight’s BP pitcher, Tim Hudson, belt high fastballs for everybody
cut the mustard from the start, Hudson??????????
I wish I could express how much I hate Barry Bonds. The word hate is an understatement.
Kim Hudson in the building.
I hate when pitchers put a team down before they even get a chance to bat. Hate it, hate it, hate it. And two will probably be all Schmidt needs knowing the Braves.
Tim Hudson is our second best pitcher…
And it’s still mathematically possible for the Wild Card to go to the Braves…
The National League is crap.
“Gibson, Koufax, and Marchial” Torborg is more stuck in the sixties than the a Hippie Version of Groundhog Day.
And the Braves don’t even get anyone on. It seems like one of those “over in the first” games. Hudson was one good pitch from it still being 0-0.
True that, 4 Seam. It’s absolutely embarassing, a team in the playoffs that played most of the season below .500? Ridiculous.
“Big Papi, Manny and David Wells”
Is it possible for a car to have a hernia?
Could Adam LaRoche really win a gold glove?
It insane. I think the wild car system needs to be changed.
There should be ceiling. If you have more 79 losses, you are not allowed to play in the playoffs.
The spot goes to someone else.
I’d even consider mixing leagues by having an off-balanced number of one league’s teams (i.e. AL 5 NL 3). Although i’m sure oppositiong would arise to this arrangement.
Anyone see how David Wright’s bare-handed pick-up made their top ten plays list? Chipper makes that play all the time, nothing. David Wright does it very averagely, and it’s great.
I think Rochey’s movements are graceful.
Adam Laroche can win a gold glove, but Jeff Francouer can’t win a batting title.
***(DUCKING)***
Landogarner just threw a knife at me!
Schmidt looks wild. Get him now, get him now.
Where is Landogarner?
Schmidt can’t throw strikes and Francoeur is coming up. Uh-oh.
for real, this is an out waiting to happen
Damn.
Well, that was okay. I hate Bonds more however.
My apologies to Frenchy, although it was an out…it had more to do with Barry. That old man got hops!
At least Frenchy made a productive out. Unlike Roachie.
*LAUGHING HYSTERICALLY*
Yep, that happens everyday.
It’s gonna be one of these nights.
Joy.
Walk. Hudson up. This hurts, the Braves should have been able to get at least one run.
Ugh.
Just getting home…
not looking good!
At least Frenchy made a productive out. Unlike Roachie
I don’t think so.
Francoeur did a sac bunt or sac fly? No.. He just made a out count. meaningless to me!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m sure glad Ryan Langerhans is in left field today and not Matt Diaz.
(sarcasm)
COme on Chip!
Come on Andruw!
Wow, I wonder what this SF Giants will look like 2-3 years from now. All of these guys are almost eligible for AARP.
Does nothing go out?
Not in Turner Field apparently. In over half of the other NL ballbarks, the current score would be 6-2 Braves.
that’ll work!
At around the 19 second mark we get to see Glenn Diamond!
FRANCOEUR!
LaRoche! Triple?
WooHoo… Jeffrey!
ha ha, daddy’s boy missed the ball
Rochey!!!!
Why is that rat on Francoeur’s chin?
I wish he’d shave… he looks terrible!
The Bonds Shift workling to perfection
Nice double play!
Nice stroke Chip!
CHIPPER!!!
Yeah, Chipper goes Yard! Good lick.
Schmidt is pitching like Atlanta Hudson.
Chipper is great.
Andruw!
back2back
Andruw!!!
Miranda, I’m sure you don’t like a beard. Hahaha. He looks older than his age. Judging from his appearance, I guessed his age to be forty.
I never doubted the Braves for a second….
WE GONNA WIN THE WORLD SERIES!
haha… nope you’re right… I don’t like it at all! haha …I prefer Brian clean as well… some people can do it and its great but some… nope… Brian’s okay when he’s closely trimmed but I still don’t like it. Jeff’s too dark…
Winning sure does feel better than losing.
ouch! That hit where there is no meat!
I got two words for you….
WORLD CHAMPIONS!
The last time I remember(?) CJ and AJ went Back-To-Back was against Gagne last year right after he came off the DL.
Hudson in trouble.
“That hit where there is no meat!”
I seriously doubt a baselball player has a McDonalds hamburger for a hand…
The Reds are diving. The Braves are sputtering along. Only half of the NL stands in our way. We got this in the bag.
When is Kyle Davies coming back?
No, but Bonds has Chicken Nuggets for knuckles.
Howabouta Goatee? Oh yeah i think Jeff’s tried that. How about a cheesy mustache that I like to to now call “The Aaron Rodgers”?
Torborg is going at it again!!!!!
Torborg wants his job back..ADAM LAROCHE!!!!
HUCK BLASTS ONE!!!!
Good grief, looked like he barely swung
I know there is no doghouse if the Braves win, but assuming they do, can Torgorg go in it anyway? I’m starting to rethink my dislike of Ron Gant.
Hey Davey, check out who made that video link to the 2004 Braves.
Ha.
Radiowryn…. I wonder who that could be… 😀
Ha, good stuff man.
And judging by your other video, I see you have a Jack Russel aswell..:)
eek, another hbp in a burgerless location. he’s wild but getting the job done.
Arrrrrgh McBride! Why has this guy not been released?!?
Now Paranto… Why has this guy not been released too?
Is a grand slam coming??
By the way, Stu, sorry for not responding sooner, but you’re completely right: Brian McCann does not deserve to be the 2006 National League MVP. However, he does deserve to be on the ballot, and he fully deserves consideration for some 6th-10th place votes. I just want to publicize the excellence of his campaign, and also give it some historical context (although I suck tremendously at stats).
Go Paronto.
WOW a strike out!!
YEA!! Who’d a thunk it
So wait, i’m confused…did paronto actually get the job done? Things must be going great for us. Next Inning Yates is gonna strike out the side.
Go petros!
Well, if you believe Tom Paciorek (broadcasting Nats games), Yates has great stuff.
Hi, guys… Gosh, maybe I should miss more games.
Well, Mac, I’d miss you… but I sure as hell don’t miss losing.
Also, Bonds doesn’t have to break the record tonight.
“Next Inning Yates is gonna strike out the side.”
He’s warming up.
For Yates, a Six Run lead is a save situation.
now make it seven
PREPARE TO MEET KALI!
Aww…I wanted to see Bonds hit a 500-footer off of Yates.
Davey, is Marcus Vick looking good? Is he ever going to play in a game against Elvis Dumerville?
Mac u fit right in!
Tyler the best stuff on the squad? What r they drinking?!?!
A walk… of course
Holy Cow, dudes. Yates walked the lead-off batter. I don’t believe it. He’s never done that before.
go McDowell!
Seven runs ain’t enough!
Oh, I almost forgot…
IN HELL!!!!
death ray
Man, you are truly awful, Tyler.
Two walks in a row! Lets go for 4!
I love the moc cheer for the strike!
The Saints traded their malcontent Stallworth for Simoneau and preparing it looks like to package their conditional 4th round draft pick they also picked up to trade possibley for the malcontent/legal hazard Donnie Edwards.
The Saints defene just from 32nd best in the league to 28th.
They now at least have one linebacker.
Maybe I should go back to class…
ok, pull him, i’ve had enough of this circus
Yates my hero!!
Terrible.
How many guys do you think we call up when rosters expand?
Richmond-a-calling.
I assume I’m not the only one who thinks that there’s still a 50/50 chance we lose this game?
Truly why has this guy not been released? Unbelievable.
He is worse than horrible
“defense just went from”
The Braves Bullpen is like the worst thing ever….
Kali has actually exceeded Kolbous levels of incompetence. I mean, at least Danny would get a out occasionally.
“How many guys do you think we call up when rosters expand?”
Answer: How many can you call up….
Oh noooooooooooooooooooooo now Ray
“Coaching visit to mound.” This is the happiest news I’ve ever heard right now.
i just checked the score (i don’t get turner south) why yates? why? this is beyond ridiculous.
“Kali has actually exceeded Kolbous levels of incompetence. I mean, at least Danny would get a out occasionally.”
Dan got 3 outs from the Braves a week ago.
And the drinking game definitely needs an entry:
“Announcer talks about how [CRAPPY RELIEVER] gets ground balls so Bobby will use him to get a double play: Drink until you’re so loaded you forget the bases are.”
Can somebody tell him how yates has a job in the majors? I mean, this is unbelievable…he is the biggest liability a team can ever have.
Ok so that was not Ray’s fault
5-4-3 got out of it….lol
still holding my breath though
WOW just cant believe it!
Ray actually comes through
Ken Ray gets it done.
Tyler Yates: I’m very upset with Bobby [Cox]. I’m only for games we’re losing by five or more runs late or when we have a fifteen run lead.
{NAME REDACTED}, Yates, Hudson for half of the season, CR, etc.
We have had some truly bad pitchers….
MAC eats a double play.
Ray is a bit above servicable. Yates is dowright scary on the mound.
I remember asking my best friend (a diehard mets fan) about tyler yates. At the time yates was pitching adequately. My friend’s response, “He throws hard, can’t find the strike zone, disappoints on a regular basis, you will hate him in two weeks.” Sounds about right.
The Giants are playing great defense tonight…
I’d hope the Giants need more scores… LOL 😛
HK your freind was wrong, it took one week…..
AJ IS FALLING DOWN!!! JUST NOT IN THE BATTERS BOX!!!
HIS SWING IS BACK
WORLD CHAMPIONS BABY, WORLD CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!!
We should probably have Wickman pitch the ninth anyway, just to be on the safe side.
he probably said 3 days, i am still in denial.
Wow. Go Andruw.
ooops
I hope we don’t make it back to .500 and win it all. That would be classic!
I don’t want to change the thread, but is anyone else going to the Georgia home opener this weekend?
That’s some fancy footwork on Andruw’s part.
I hope the official site carries that clip.
Changing the thread? Thats a crime now? The Braves are still under .500…BUT WE ARE GONNA BE WORLD SERIES WINNERS FOR 2006!
Francouer’s thoughts are showing.
I am pretty sure I saw McCann in the dugout, hence he has been run for, but Rathbun seems not to have noticed.
Alrighty, dudes, it’s been real, but I need to head out a little early for this one. I have some stuff to prepare for work tomorrow. Later.
Come on number 27…
Nope, he’s still out there. Why? If there’s ever a time for Pratt it’s the ninth inning with an eight-run lead.
Also, I will be at the Alabama game (student tickets) Saturday night, and there is no telling when the recap will be up.
If the Brave win this and the next series, they could be tied or 1 game back for the WC. Think about that. Really Think.
Mac, you may have to not watch the Braves for the next two weeks
Well, I have four days a week covered right now, assuming night games: classes Tuesday and Wednesday, work either Monday or Thursday, and football on Saturday.
There is the Ray we know and love
If the Giants can get one or two runs here, I can bust out the Falcons-49ers conceit again.
Mac, I’m predicting Bama by 10 in an ugly game, Auburn by 17 as the benchwarmers play the 2nd half, Tennessee by 4, and UAB in the upset of the night winning in Norman.
Meanwhile, Reds’ freefall continues. 3-0 Dodgers as they continue to bat in the first.
and a walk!
I know the old Ken Ray would come back
It’s a save situation for Ray!
He needs at least 10 runs to be safe
If UAB wins, you could see literally a dozen Blazer fans riot on Southside. The frozen yogurt places will be trashed.
jorge sosa pitched 2 inn gave up 5 h 3 runs to marlins tonite
maybe we can trade yates to st louis too
Falcons 13, 49ers 7
Go Sosa! I say we release the whole bullpen except for Wickman and let the Richmond kids have a go.
It could not be any worse!
Seriously, why has Ray not been released?!?
Unbelieveable
back to back to back 10 run games!!!!
Championship!!!
Wow the 2nd out.
Lets see we give up one run for each out, sounds like a championship bullpen. We just need to score 20 runs every night
I don’t know how to tell you this, but these are the Richmond kids. The entire bullpen has turned over. The Vulture was the last member of the opening day bullpen still out there and he’s been in the rotation for a couple of weeks now.
Sounds like a can do to me.
Ok how about Greenville? anybody but what we got
Dammit, I don’t think I can pull off “Falcons 13, 49ers 8”.
Unbelieveable! How bad is Ray?
Get rid of him
Is it…could it be…WICKMANIA!
Richmond, Greenville, Rome bring’em up.
It just could not be any worse than Yates, Ray, McBride, Paronto.
It hurts just type those names
Anybody else really hate all things Fox, including this dumb “You Can’t Script October” commercial?
let’s call it a day.
mac, sure ya can… two field goals and a safety… and the game isnt over yet, it can end up 13-9
doug, there is no greenville team anymore.
How about 13-10?
13-7 2outs in the 9th and we have to bring our closer in sad
yeah i know, I am just hoping
for any help we can get
Sure you can Mac, they tiped a Falcons extra point try and took it back for two!
Mac, I wonder if there’s ever been a game wind up 2-0 (OT) in football. I’d hate to see it.
This is the worst bullpen I think I have ever seen.
It’s got to be the worst in the majors.
It’s amazing we have done as well as we have
If Wickman could just pitch the 8th and 9th every night we MIGHT have a chance
13-8….Chipper went deep again…once again i miss a Chipper homerun
The Falcons actually beat the 49ers!
good night everyone