The Atlanta Braves are divided into two separate yet unequal groups: the hitters, who have been very good, and the pitchers, who have been very bad. These are their stories.
The Atlanta Braves are divided into two separate yet unequal groups: the hitters, who have been very good, and the pitchers, who have been very bad. These are their stories.
I don’t know if I should be scared or if I should be excited. This could be a long weekend.
I’m looking forward to it. This weekend should pretty much decide whether the Braves are contenders or pretenders. A series win or better yet a sweep of the hated Mets would send the Braves on their way into the upper tier of wild card teams. Hopefully JS has another quality trade (not Betemit for some crappy middle reliever) in him too. OTOH, lose the first 2 games and you can stick a fork in the Braves. They’ll be done. Then the only question would be whether Giles, Smoltz, Sosa, etc. would clear waivers for possible August trades.
This matchup always excites me.
As long as the Braves don’t lose 3, I don’t think this weekend will offer any kind of definitive statement.
If they lose 2 or 3 vs the Mets, that would make a 2-4 or 1-5 homestand. That seems pretty definitive to me that the team is not a serious contender.
Either way, this makes for an exciting weekend of baseball. These first 2 games will determine what else we do or don’t do before monday’s deadline.
P.S. Stu, it’s nice to see you’re growing up in your views of Glavine…JK!!!
I feel pretty good about the middle game. The Braves need this one of that last game, and I’d prefer this one because of Pedro hasn’t pitched in a while and is just off the DL today.
I dont care, we need all 3 from this series. If we can cut this to 9 or 9.5 there is still time…I want a sweep
I don’t think this team is a serious contender anyway. Even if we luck into the postseason, we’re going absolutely nowhere. This is why I wish we’d stop trading for band-aids.
Wickman might not be a band-aid if the Braves get him next year.
I find it hard to believe anyone thinks the Maximilano Ramirez for Bob Wickman trade was bad. It was one of Schuerholz’s best recent moves.
Old Atlanta teammate Tom Glavine, now with the playoff-bound Mets, has been lobbying to get Maddux in New York, and maybe Maddux has changed his mind about pitching there if he could be in a pennant race with his good friend.
Smitty:….no. That was in direct reference to the 2 old braves players that are washed up and was once a part of a great team that is just a shell of its former self.—-the players and the team.
sorry for the old double post.
Braves 2B Marcus Giles, as quoted in the New York Post…
“I absolutely think the Mets are still looking over their shoulders at us. They know what our track record is. And if we do what we have to do this weekend, they’ll be looking even harder over their shoulders. They know where we are…
“Before we think about kissing our sister with the wild card, we have a division to think about.”…
What the hell? I always thought the insest thing was just poking fun at the south…… now Dont get all pissy, just having some fun
from a mets fan point of view , i do look at how the braves are doing more then any other team in the nl, but honestly im not worried about your team beating us out for the division title. But I dont look forward to playing you in the playoffs-get me? confident, yet cautious.
NY just a question for you. IF, if, we sweep you this weekend will you still be around? I know last time we won the series you vanished for a couple of weeks. I’m just wondering what to expect.
I Posted this on the previous thread not realizing this one had opened up.
Is there any way we could get any of the good arms in the Twins pen?
Juan Rincon- 50.2IP,46k,16BB,1.95ERA 1HR allowed
Dennys Reyes- 27IP,23k,6BB,1.33ERA 3HR allowed (and he’s fat)
Twins pitching in unreal
Right now, we’re not competing with the Mets in the race; we’re competing with the Reds, etc. Losing 2/3 won’t bury us, but I expect to win 2/3.
csg:
If the mets lose i will leave your site untill next series. No i did not vanish when the mets lost that (1) SERIES BY 1 GAME. Go back and check the old posts and you will see i took the heat for losing. I was not home for one game and everyone was all over me. Get over it. Take comfert were you can in the one series you won from the mets this year.
We will win this series so i have nothing to worry about. And you will end up having many more conversations with me.Or just ignoring me and calling me a troll-what ever you chose.
Betemit and Diaz for some of the Twins arms.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…
This is from my last post but I think it makes alot of since.
Oakland has alot of good pitchers. They desperately need offense.
ATL- Justin Duchscherer
OAK- Marcus Giles(I know he isn’t hitting well but he is hitting better than Mark Ellis.)
Maybe a prospect like Eric Campbell who is hitting well.
Mark Ellis- .220 5HR 23RBIs 29 Runs 3 SB
Marcus Giles- .249 7 HR 34 RBIs 59 Runs 8 SB
NY – what are you trying to say here, “Take comfert were you can in the one series you won from the mets this year.” That’s good…When does your school start back!
LOL
How many times can NYmets say same thing over and over again. If all you got is ” we’re gonna win” “we’re better”, wait until you got something to add to the conversation. If he wants to talk s#%t he should wait until during the game or after, if the the outcome calls for such a thing. Until then I’m here to have discussions about the Braves.
jenny,
Who’s to say if we got in the playoffs that we’d go nowhere? In case you haven’t noticed the NL is really quite putrid this year. The Florida Marlins have the best winning pct. in the league since mid May. ‘Nuff said. We have the second highest RS/RA ratio in the NL (behind only the Mets), so this notion that we wouldn’t have a chance in the postseason is illogical.
I’d rather get swept in the first round every single year than miss out on the postseason altogether. The line of thinking that says otherwise makes no sense to me, and sounds vaguely like Met & Phillie fans logic during our run.
1914 Update:
NY Giants 51-33 (–)
Chicago Cubs 51-38 (2.5 GB)
St. Louis Cardinals 50-42 (5)
Boston Braves 41-45 (11)
Cincinnati Reds 41-48 (12.5)
Philadelphia Phillies 39-47 (13)
Pittsburgh Pirates 38-47 (13.5)
Brooklyn Robins 36-47 (14.5)
Rainy days and Tuesdays always get me down, and today was both in 1914. The whole NL got the day off. Again.
The A’s finally had their winning streak broken at 12, by losing 4-3 at Detroit. They still have a 6.5 game lead, and are still the AL’s team to beat. Over in the Federal League, the Whales have opened a 3.5 game lead over Baltimore and Indianapolis.
Dans, he’s/she’s not capable of doing that. They lose and he goes away, they win and he stays here to piss everyone off. I guess it’s a lose-lose situation. Well I guess us winning and him going away is a plus!
The best way to genuinely insult an ignoramus is to ignore him.
its too much fun to respond though..
I’d consider a trade of Giles for Duchscherer, but I wouldn’t include more players with him (i.e. Campbell) just to get a reliever. I know he’s a solid arm, but that seems like too much for me.
Giles can and should be traded away for any bullpen help, this year and next. His salary is too large and we have a great replacement for him. It doesn’t make sense to trade away a cheaper/better piece (Betemit) of our team though. Giles for Duchs, I’m all for it!
If we get our butt’s this weekend, then we deserve to hear some trash talk and boasting by mets fans. Right now we all know the standings and not a single pitch has been thrown in this series. If you need to talk up a team that is 12 up, then I think mets fans are still worried about finishing.
I don’t know if we could get JD with only Marcus…it doesn’t have to Campbell but someone that is a good hitter.
(butt’s kicked)
MIN needs some power. Maybe if we could supply them some we could get Reyes/Rincon.
I’ll never abide a jerk-off sports fan, front-runner or not.
For all my years in NYC, we’ve stomped the Mets’ guts out & I never said a word—unless provoked. Then, and only then, I would offer far more than any Met fan could handle, a regular verbal tar-and-feathering.
When you win, act like you expect to win & don’t rub it into the vanquished; when you lose, tip your cap, take your medicine & figure a way to get better. Speaking from vast experience, I can tell you that Mets fans generally do neither.
I love Greg Maddux for what he did for the Braves in the ’90s, but if the Mets want him they can have him and his 4.83 era and .286 BAA. Now that umpires don’t call strikes 3 inches off the plate anymore, Greg is just another aging veteran pitcher. If the Mets get him instead of Zito/Schmidt/Willis, that is fine with me because it will mean they aren’t winning the World Series. Yay!
NY,
You are not a troll b/c you are a mets fan. You are a troll b/c on your friday night you are watching the braves/mets game while talking on a BRAVES message board. Do you really have that few amount of friends?
Just go to a mets bar or call a 1-900 number and maybe for a dollar an minute they will talk to you about whatever you want, including your wonderful mets. If your lucky you might even get a phone girlfriend out of it, i’m sure you’ve had some of those before.
Seriously, i’m not being mean i’m just being honest. I’m so sick of Mets fans coming on braves message boards and talking stuff.
Think about this, your friday night consists of watching the braves/mets game on your new 15 inch tv while you are talking on a braves message board telling everyone how great you are and how they suck. Hmm, one word LOSER!
GO Braves!!!
Smoltz and Schilling = HOFer’s
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=keri/060728
Smoltz HOF, no doubt. Smoltz will have over 200 wins and 154 svs. Come on, thats easy.
Also Smoltz is the all time post-season wins leader.
If Smoltz finishes with 200+ wins to go with the 154 saves, then I definitely think he’ll get in.
I can’t put together a decent trade with the Twins for Rincon/Reyes. Any thoughts that make sense?
Well he is at 185 now. I would hope that he can get 15 more.
The Pirates outside of gonzalez have some decient relief pitchers that wouldn’t cost as much. Torress and Hernandez are older but have decient eras and good past records. They also have Matt Capps, who is only 22 and would cost more but would be available for a decient position player.
I don’t think teams like the twins are going to trade relief when they are still in contention. And we can’t afford to give up betemit. I really could see us parting with langerhans or thorman for relief b/c we have johnson coming back next year. We also have diaz out there.
Any thoughts?
the mets are a second place team, to the yankees and the whole city. Second also to the Braves, so get use to it
Well I would still take a healthy KJ over Langerhans.(OFFENSE)
I mentioned this a couple of days ago.
ATL-Mike Gonzalez
SD-Joe Randa
PITT-Prospects from both teams
San Diego would get a decent 3B, we would get Gonzo, and Pitt could get more decent prospects.
Curt Schilling press agent Curt Schilling reports he’ll do all he can to ensure Curt Schilling’s eventual enshrinement.
Any thoughts on #48?
Jay,
Local pittsburgh papers mentioned that it’s likely not going to happen. Gonzalez is young and still has a couple years til free agency. Thats why i mentioned the other relievers. They really do have a good handful of decient relievers.
If the yanks and padres are asking so much for proctor and linebrick i’m sure gonzalez would require more to get as he is cheaper and prob. more talented as a lefty.
Well, we’d be getting a good young reliever, and we wouldn’t be gving up Wilson.. so, that’s 2 big plusses…
I guess it’d depend on which prospects we’d be giving up…but it sounds pretty good..
Well I think that the Yanks and Pads are being greedy. We have seen pretty good releivers going for less. So if the prospects from us are good than the deal could happen. I wouldn’t expect the Pads to give up too much in the deal because they would only get Randa but they do need a 3B.
Tonight’s lineup
J.Reyes SS
P.Lo Duca C
C.Beltran CF
D.Wright 3B
X.Nady RF
J.Franco 1B
C.Floyd LF
J.Valentin 2B
P.Martinez P
M.Giles 2B
E.Renteria SS
C.Jones 3B
A.Jones CF
B.McCann C
J.Francoeur RF
A.LaRoche 1B
R.Langerhans LF
H.Ramirez P
No Delgado and we have Chipper.
YAY!!!
anyone know the line up yet
Budog5 scroll up.
got it thanx
No problem.
Braves + Mets + TBS + the fact that I have no life = Live Blogging!!
Davey you’re not going to watch the game?
Has the Scott Sheilds to the Braves died or something? They could use some offense aswell.
I will Jay…ofcourse I will..
I meant that I’ll be live blogging the game…
Oh, ok.
I’ll be going to the great city of Atlanta for the first time tomorrow. Although it is only for 3 hours.
why the short visit Jay??
Well I am going to Tampa and there is a lay over in Atlanta. I would like to make it to the game but I would miss my plane.
Ah…ok..
jay 10 hope you like traffic
In Atlanta or Florida?
The old joke: Even before you go to heaven, hell or purgatory, you’ll still have to change planes in Atlanta.
ububba, that now can be planes or lanes
Sportscenter is doing a story on fat pitchers, I bet they don’t mention the Braves.
atl ,thought u were driving !oh well
Lieber said Pratt prefered him fat.
There was Wickman.
somehow, that sounds kind of dirty dans…
csg,
Yeah, Atlanta is the new LA—for traffic & smog.
Giants just got Mike Stanton from the Nats.
I just report what I hear.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=mlb&id=2532990
Wow you guys are funny. 🙂 I cant wait until the mets beat on you this series.
Ubabba:
“When you win, act like you expect to win & don’t rub it into the vanquished; when you lose, tip your cap, take your medicine & figure a way to get better. Speaking from vast experience..bla bla bla.”
Tell me earlier this year when the season just started that you and all the braves fans here were not rubbing in the 14 straight division titles, that you have not beat the mets every year, that you dont rub it in about us not making the playoffs the last few years…your a punk who starts fights that he cant Finish. Your “vast experience” must be in making an ass of your self……………… Vast experience. Are you fu_king kidding me.
Dans:
Dude relax. Its a game. IM just doing my part to hype up the game, IM excited what can I say. And as far as” waiting for the game to talk trash” Why dont you look up your other braves fans posts. Were just having some fun. The mets are just as relevant in this braves blog as the braves and mets are playing tonight, am I right? Again relax my friend its all good.
J:
Its not that IM a loser because I come here to chat. In some ways its more fun to watch the mets/braves games with a bunch of braves fans. There is no one to trash talk with when im with all mets fans. No rivalry, not even close to the amount of satisfaction when the mets win. Its cool to do once in a while. And yes its Friday and I am staying home with my girlfriend in my apartment watching the braves/mets game on a 65 inch Sony TV thank you very much. If that makes me a loser then so be it. And no im not lying, I really have a 65 inch TV that I make ridiculous payments on because my credit is only so,so and the interest rate is really bad. but its great for sports so it makes it worth wild.
To the rest of you who try to insult me, the game is on and i don’t feel like defending myself anymore so ill check in latter
Sometimes when I refresh or post, the thread comes up right where it left off but lately I have to scroll down from the top each time. I know its not a big deal but I’m lazy.
Nice to see a sell-out.
Oh come on!
Yippee.
This is an unpromising start.
Great start.
This could be a long game.
Jose Reyes, dammit
Well this is starting out real nice!
REYES, HR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AND IT BEGINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Get the vulture up.
Did Willie Randolph grow a beard?
I agree with dans- I think we’ve seen all we need to see of the Bad HoRam.
Nice DP Chipper!!!
Once again, I vote death.
Yeah, a double play.
Nice one Chipper.
OK, the infield won HoRam a stay of execution with that DP.
Wright the NL MVP over Pujols? Is that a joke?
Damn you Wright.
HoRam sure is sharp today…
{ Foghorn Leghorn voice }
Nice kid, I say, nice kid, even though he’s ’bout as sharp as a billiard ball.
He is only hitting .315 come on, that is stupid. If anyone thinks that is going to happen I feel sorry for you. Maybe a gold glove.
Awww, that was close.
GONNA GO WATCH THE GAME , i WILL CHECK IN A COUPLE INNINGS, your boy franco is up, they are cheering for him to beat the braves!
Juilo looks weird in a met uniform.
GET THE THIRD DANG OUT ALREADY!
I was going to post this before the rude begining.
Can we limit the number of words per post for the troll. Its hard to read though that much stuff. I’d rather endure pithy one liners.
If I become a pest tonight please forgive me, I’v got the house to myself tonight( no wife or kids) so it’s just me and the Braves and lets not forget that the beer is going down rael good.
Great…
Julio Franco will outlast the cockroaches. HoRam may not outlast the first inning.
I’m sure they aren’t cheering for him to beat the Braves, you see we have a little thing called respect for our former players. Something that a New York team knows nothing about.
3 OUTS, YES!!!!
Sorry, folks, I refuse to abide such stupidity. I’m out…
The Mets look terrifying. I hope the Reds are losing (if they’re even playing today.)
The Reds beat the Astros today.
Reds start in Milwaukee shortly.
wait that was last night.Oops Yahoo should update their headlines.
Nice Marcus..
yes!
Good start.
Ugly start to the game. I’m a little disgusted at Joe Simpson. Do we have to hear even Braves announcers slurp David Wright? There is this guy called Pujols who has better numbers than Wright despite missing a couple of weeks with a back injury for a team that hasn’t been double digits ahead in its division all summer…. I do agree strongly with his point about the Braves needing to deal for starting pitching more than relievers. Time to bring out the heavy lumber we showed at the start of the road trip and get back in this game!
Yessir
You think we’ll need 15 runs tonight?
yes! Edgar!
Let’s not bunt here…
Well we can get three right here….Come on Chipper.
Lets go CHIPPER!
good cut
Sweeeet
Bases loaded for DRUW!!!
Lets go DREW!
Chop those tomahawks.
How many runs do we get out of Andruw? I say one, on a DP.
He’s gonna hurt his back swinging.
Andruw wants a fastball.
YES!!!!
HAAAAAAAA!!
Yes!
DRUW!!!!!
YES, DRUW!
ANDRUW!
(Hey, I got the double part right!)
Fun with closed captioning: JOE GIBBS IS THE LAST MAN TO HIT A GRAND SLAM AGAINST PEDRO.
This could be a four hour game.
And Pedro should have had the Chick-fil-A.
At least HoRam got an out.
87 mph fastball… thats not normal.
“Good rip, kid!” Gotta love Bobby’s enthusiasm.
I thought that was gone.
Boy that looked gone. Crap.
At least its a run!!! Man I thought that was gone.
McCann is so perfect.
Whohoo.
Frenchy!!!!!
Good hustle, Frenchy!
Jeffrey..my boy!!
Man Pedro is sh** right now.
Let’s see, four hits and a walk, and the only out was the hardest-hit ball of all.
I blame Grady Little.
This is starting to get fun to watch, the bad news we have to take the field with Horam.
LOL, yeah left him in too long.
Hi all-
I hope we kick Pedro’s punk a– up & down the field. I also hope Horam can settle down and be the good Horam now.
Pedro was hit hard that inning…
The way LaRoche has been hitting lately and the way McCann has hit all year, I wouldn’t think they’d make the two outs through the first seven in the Braves’ batting order.
a score of 4 – 2 = 0 – 0 for Horam
Dan,
the way they’ve been going, they will both hit homers off Pedro later.
Dan,
Don’t forget about Frenchy, he has been hitting pretty good as of late also.
I think we need a 2:1 ratio to have a chance.
I think around .380 over the last 10 games.
Pedro got a hit…what
Pedro with a double?? WTF??
DAVID WRIGHT IS NOT THE MVP!!!
Four-pitch walk… yes, the bad HoRam is reportinng for work.
It’s not even close between him and Fat Albert.
unfortunately
bah
Darth Vader? WTF.
And HoRam coughs up the lead, as expected. And WTF is up with “our” announcers tonight. I don’t mind praising the other team’s good players, but this is way too much.
Get Oscar ready.
Unbelievable. That is so f***ing unacceptable Ramirez. You got to get the pitcher out.
Why Oscar? Why do the Braves have no good long relief man?
now we need to score four to stay close
Villereal isn’t that bad, compared to our other releif guys he is amazing. Plus it seems like Bobby uses him for long releif.
Oscar IS our long relief.
totally kills momentum when horam does this sh–.
UM, WTF does anyone else get the feeling that the “BRAVES” broadcasters are pulling for the Mets.
4 pitch walk.
Way to work, Giles.
just like a lead-off hitter
Four runs off Pedro is the first and Ramirez can’t hold it through two? I can’t get that out of my head.
A “good” long relief pitcher would usually get a more glamorous role in the bullpen or put in the rotation. For a long reliever, Villareal is OK. Faint praise, but I think it’s accurate.
Hit and Run …..our favorite.
Great…
Oh boy…here comes Horacio again..
Hit and run would have killed that double play.
Jay, we laugh so we don’t cry. Now if we had tried the hit-and-run, we’d have still gotten a double play because Edgar couldn’t have hit the ball.
HoRam can’t keep allowing 2 runs an inning all night, can he?
I must be numb, this game seems to be progressing as expected.
Well we would kind of have to convert the hit and run…which the more I think about, I don’t think we have the whole season.
“HoRam can’t keep allowing 2 runs an inning all night, can he?”
Not if he gives up five and gets taken out in the third.
Skip and Joe are kissing Met ass as if they’re working for Espn…
I hope he doesn’t.
this is going to be a wild game!!!!!!!! Awesome!!!!
“Braves lost Jorge Sosa for the homestand.”
Let’s try to make sure he doesn’t find us again.
Leadoff hit to right. The Bad HoRam is consistent, you gotta give him that.
If Sosa goes on the DL does that mean Kevin Barry would come up again?
That would be logical.
Marte’s been promoted to the Indians, and Oscar is in fact throwing up in the bullpen.
“Horacio does not have it tonight”…
No shit Joe..
Use Paronto now, please. Ramirez is clearly melting down.
“Horacio does not have it tonight”
Guess who knows that…..US!!!
Marte 0-2
Were looking at a defeated man.
Maybe they are resume footage for ESPN.
“He can lift and separate,” says Joe. Uh, no comment.
Well if they mention the Yanks or BoSox then we know it is an audition.
I left out recording
Apparently they’re competing with Smitty for that job at ESPN. Smitty’s obviously more qualified, but these guys are more determined to suck up. Straightforwardness is not always a virtue, sadly.
And another run.
Ramirez is sad tonight. And I expect nothing better from Carmen.
at what pt. does BAD Horam come out?
At least it looks like they are leaving Pedro in.(I never thought I’d say that)
Thank god that inning is over.
One run this inning. Progress, I guess.
Hey, he K’ed Pedro.
That’s good, isn’t it…
Horam is getting better, only one run this time.
When we are down by 5. Which might be next inning.
2-2-1, lets just hope they don’t score in each inning.
Atleast Pedro didn’t get a DOUBLE this time..
I mean, come on…you gotta get that guy out atleast.
“If Sosa goes on the DL does that mean Kevin Barry would come up again?”
I’d rather it be Phil Stockman.
When is he availible to come up?
Can we put Sosa on the Lifetime DL?
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2533054
Well this is some good news.
Chipper!
Nice hit, Chipper!
Chipper!!!
Boy if Ramirez was pitching good, I’d be feeling great personally and about this game right now.
Come on Andruw.
Who would Davies replace? Thomson?
I think this game is very important even though Horam doesn’t agree with my opinion
Jay10,
Kyle Davies can’t come back fast enough for my taste.
I know.
Why was Andruw pretty much walking to first?
Shiell, if we keep him up here.
@ Dan
Simple, he grounded out. 😛
Leadoff double going to waste.
2 out RBI?
Is there anymore Frenchy 2-out magic left in this bag? I’m afraid to look. *holds it out*
He got beat by a couple of feet…maybe if he hustled he would have gotten a infeild hit.
Nope.
If the Mets score here, the game has officially turned in their favor.
But Andruw was only about a step or two from the bag and he was moving slower than a jog. Why is he so dang fast in centerfield and so slow on the basepads? He never tries to beat anything out.
I know and its annoying.
So what’s worse, Bad HoRam or Villareal?
1, 2, 3, inning?
Maybe he’s scared he’ll pull something running the bases.
“Reyes is up and it seems like he has in every inning, and he has except for the third.”
Either that or he’s thinking of the big payday the Spawn of Hell will get him.
Now A-Rod love.
Don’t defend ARod. It’s called integrity.
Well theres the Yankees now all we need is the Red Sox.
I liked that quote too Jay.
I’m glad you’re still with us bad Horacio…
I just found out the Mets are a good team.
“No reason to explain the Mets’ 16 and 41 record.”
A typo I assume. I wish though that were true.
The bouncer is up.
I thought Betemit is 25 now not 26.
Will anyone on the Braves find out HoRam’s not a good pitcher?
I feel my IQ dropping as I listen to this commentary.
Two straight walks. That is bloody brilliant Ramirez.
5 walks in four innings. AWESOME.
YAY!! Bobby…
5 damn walks! I’d cheer for Bobby too.
It’s about time…
why is horam still in?
I think that is about time to put HoRam is the bullpen.
Wright makes it 8-4, any bets? Anyone? 10-1 odds, lol.
ok, never mind!
Can bf Chad go long or are we use the whole pen tonight?
I like the idea of HoRam in the pen.
HoRam would be terrible in the pen.
Typing and drinking is hard.
I like the idea of our announcers not drooling over the Mets players…
DP?
Why, Hate King?
HoRam would make a better long relief man than Oscar Villarreal.
Good HoRam in the pen. As in OUT of the starting rotation, Hate King. Is that like the King of Pain?
HoRam just can’t handle the pressure…too bad the bad HoRam shows up tonight…absolutely terrible, you can see him nibbling out there.
The offense will have to score ten runs tonight…
And he would be able to make spot starts…I guess, but then we run into the problem of who will replace in the rotation?
I have to go to the store(2 blocks) to get beer. What are the chances the score is the same when I get back? currently 5-4
Probably will be 7-4.
Look at the bright side, we’ve scored four runs against Pedro. HoRam melting down is not nearly as surprising as Pedro giving up runs.
No way Dan.
Not likely.
Holy smoley Batman, a scoreless inning for the Braves!
I predict that the bullpen will do the unthinkable tonight:
Hold the Mets scoreless the rest of the way.
(Typed during the Nady AB)
Nice work, Chad.
The Pitcher formerly known as Chelsea Paronto.
YES!!! The bouncer shuts the door.
you go big Paronto. nice job.
Well, I was wrong. 🙂
RobBroad4th, all of Pedro, El Duque, and Tommy have been terrible or hurt since June, so it’s not surprising that we are scoring runs. I was just hoping our pitching will hold up…I guess not tonight…
If I can remember correctly any time Horam has been used out of the pen has been a disaster.
I didn’t say it was unheard of kc, but scoring on Pedro is always unusual with our club.
You are correct Hate King. His mind is too fragile to be a relieve pitcher…hack, he can’t even handle a regular season big game…
isn’t horam from compton?
That’s true RobBroad4th. I get you now…boy, is the strike zone wide tonight?!
I want the HoRam that pitched so well against the Cubs and Yanks.
Uh, bit early to lift Paronto, isn’t it?
I know he is from Cali.
Taking Paronto out here is not smart. Orr is just as sure an out of Paronto and Villarreal sucks.
Definitely wide. A few inside calls that went in favor of the pitcher were borderline at best.
Of course Pete Orr gets out.
This isn’t looking very good for us..
Yeah, I was hoping for the good HoRam tonight…sigh…
I like how Orr reacted like that outcome was unusual.
A strikeout for Orr. Paronto could have done that.
HoRam’s profile says he is from Carson, California.
Surprised? Of course not, JS better find a taker for Pete Orr next season…on the other hand, it’s kind of hard to bat against major league pitchers when he only gets like 4 at-bats a week…
I don’t see how Pete Orr is a better option at the plate than Paronto..
Orr is the only one with speed on the team. I like him pinch running, but he’s a feeble batter.
why couldnt Paronto have 1 more inning?
I want Martin Prado to replace Pete Orr.
feeble is putting it lightly Rob..
Because Villareal has the pictures and smells a win.
But still Pete Orr only has 2 SB. Then again he is 2-2.
Euphemisms help me keep my frustration at bay, Davey.
When the Braves got Villarreal in the offseason, everyone, including all the papers, said he was a flamethrower who reached 100 sometimes. I see nothing close to 100 MPH from Villarreal.
I remember that speculation. I think Paronto throws harder.
they advertised him as a possible closer option.
I think winning makes you a great manager.
Putrid commentary yet again
Nicely done, Oscar. The Vulture smells fresh meat.
Wow. Villarreal shut me up. As of right now, he deserves the win if the Braves win. But then again, he’ll be out there next inning as well.
My earlier question about who’s better, Bad HoRam or Villareal, has been answered.
The Vulture is on fire!!!
Holy Crap! I’m back and the score is still the same.
Wow, Dan, I thought it would take you longer than that!!!
Another first pitch flyout. Someone work the count.
If that was pulled, it was gone.
Yeah Dan that was quick.
It was just two blocks, that’s not much, hehe. I was wrong. 😉
That was just 2 small town blocks.
Dans*
Warning track power…its a bitch!!
Amen, Jay
Oh great…Chip seems hurt..
Out again.
Bad news.
Did Chipper flinch when he swung?
oh oh…maybe it’s Betemee time again…
Forget about any trade now.
Betimet…get your glove.
God it kills me to see my favorite player continue to get hurt.
Mac,
great game thread.
That looks bad
Yeah he is in some serious pain…Damn.
I know lightening may strike me down, but we should have tried to trade Chipper durring the streak.
KC, they just made you point.
Dans, please don’t say anything like that…I would prefer not to yell explictives today.
and I was just reading the DOB article about Linebrink. There has to be some farm guys we can deal to get another arm?
I love how nobody’s disappointed to see Betemit in for Chipper. How many back up guys are good enough to fill someone like Chipper’s shoes and well?
Is that Jeff Fisher? LOL
dans…I hope you realize Chipper is a 10/5 player.
I hate when the opposing batter shows bunt and misses or pulls back because it’s a ball. 90% of the time that bunt for a single doesn’t work (that goes especially for Furcal.)
just a joke
Are you serious RobBroad4th?! I am disappointed. We need a healthy Chipper man…
I know but every kid has a childhood hero and he is mine so I kinda take anything bad said at Chipper personal.
Another good Villarreal inning.
the vulture is hungry tonight.
VULTURE is dealing….put him in the rotation.
Put Oscar in the rotation!
The Vulture!!!
Don’t get me wrong, kc, I love Chipper. I’m just saying that other teams don’t have someone of Betemit’s caliber to fill in when they need him like they need him now.
AHH! too slow
Vulture is throwing filth today..
And this is exactly why we didn’t and aren’t going to trade the Meat man 😀
when does davies come back? I’d rather see us get a starter before a reliever, but there really isn’t a starter market this year before the deadline. hopefully davies or thomson can get back soon and be effective.
I think the article said that Davies would come back in at most a few weeks.
Thomson is rehabing in the minor right now.
Jeff looked stupid on that pitch.
How many pitches has Pedro thrown over the past two or three innings?
And did Chip’s voice break?
Man, this is getting frustrating. We get four off of Pedro early, but now it seems he’s settled in….
We’re just giving him outs now.
We are hitting the ball hard its just right at people.
Thats just wonderful
crap!
Great inning guys, glad to you all of you are swinging for the fence.
the chosen one!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How did that go out and McCann’s stay in?
Why can’t our guys do that?
I think we have a conspiracy here guys.
Damn
Well, I was right for 3 innings… damned Wright.
that was much needed by D-wright
i’m giving a baranquilla shout out for edgar.
I figured it out. Maybe TBS is starting the transition from a Braves station to a MLB station.
Yep
the two mets kids getting hr’s . I love seeing those two play.
Franco has been so key for us this season. Crazy to think he is almost 48!
Chip’s eyebrows are clouding his judgement..
i’m going to miss tbs, I’ve lived everywhere within the U.S. and tbs is responsible for my braves love.
Same here, Hate King.
im glad pedro has settled in. I thought we were going to give up the game with him on the mound. I think Chipper is seriously hurt by the way. He is in a lot of pain. I wish him the best of luck , and hope he can still play in this series.
I can’t wait until Reitsma is healthy next year. Maybe he’ll sell me a new car.
Absolutely David Wright is an excellent player. Why don’t the Braves have like this guy!
brule, we have Chipper, he has just gotten old.
Well our guy is supposed to be Frenchy. Which I am 100% fine with I just wish he could hit .300.
rob, i love the hate
Hey JS, you fine plan for 2005 surely is working great!!! Oh, and your book sucks.
If Chipper wouldn’t have moved to Left field for damn Vinny Castilla he would be fine. That FU**ING pulled hammy started all of this.
i saw some espn fantasy baseball guy had francouer rated as the number 20 player to hold onto in keeper leagues.
Anybody have the Reds’ score?
oh, it is 2006 right now…hahaha…
D-wright is to your team as chipper WAS for the mets. OUR TIME, OUR TEAM!!!
Reds 2
Brewers 3
Bot 5th
Adam’s had himself a quiet game..
why no diaz pinch hit?
Awfully quite in here 🙂
Oh get bent.
I have developed a bad headache throughout this game.
there is still time for a little run though, i cant get ahead of myself, but i can smell a mets win.
Well, if you guys are nostalgic, then you may want to watch this.
Feliciano is a bitch…
Because Diaz will be used to hit against Wagner in the ninth.
God this sucks. No way I go near ESPN tonight.
I think we’ve about got the 300-foot fly ball down.
That was nostalgic and painfull Rob
Also great.
kc, nice call
ok…the warning track power is gone as well…
Mullets and Porn Mustaches….an interesting fad.
1992 that is.
Good catch Langy.
Jeff Porter looks exactly the same in that Sid Bream clip.
Why do you all think ESPN is all about the mets? They hate the mets. Always diss my team. its Always about the red sox and Yankees, they couldn’t care less about the mets. Stop looking for sh!t to nit pick. Your team does not get as much exposure with ESPN because they are not as good. You have a nation station in TBS. showing your games for how long now….how spoiled you have become.
Andruw should watch Reyes run out a ground ball.
Wow, Yates is on fire!!!
did anyone watch the program on FSN following the game last night? It had the braves’ sports psychologist explaining his work with the players?
national tv station…sorry, I wouldnt want to upset any of you with my grammer. If I have I am deeply sorry for what i have done. 🙂
Yes, I know it’s painful Davey, but we were in the World Series. And it was a damn good one, too.
If only there were more clips from ’95 on youtube…. 🙂
kc
I’m saying … after due consideration at every point I thinnk David Wright is almost perfect player.
Bull, They are obsessed with Wright and the Mets.
ESPN has announced we’ve been out of contention for the last six years. No matter how many times we prove them wrong, they still bag on us. We’re not being sensitive, it’s pretty indisputable.
terrible call.
Well, we can’t dispute the fact that ESPN likes the Yankees and the Red Sox more than the Mets.
Every single year they pick someone else to win the division and when we win they say ” I will never doubt Bobby or the Braves” then when the next season rolls around they do the same damn thing.
Ofcourse he didn’t get enough…
Nothing is going out.
The ump has been terrible tonight. Who is the home plate ump tonight?
The warning track power is back!!!
I’m convinced that Chip and Joe are wearing Mets jerseys in the booth tonight..
Good AB by Betemit.
Please Andruw, please.
HP ump is Larry Vanover.
Davey, Chip should also be wearing a Cubs jersey underneath the Mets jersey.
Andruw please we need a HR!!
isn’t skip a cardinals fan?
Damn Slider.
We all knew that slider was coming……DAMNIT!!
Perfect.
Game of inches. How many shots to the warning track tonight?
113.
Just joking.
At the end of the day, it’s all HoRam’s fault tonight.
I agree, kc. Let’s give him a L as punishment.
Would any of you still make a Betemit-Linebrink trade now that Chipper is hurt?
I think about 5 had a good shot of going out. 5 deep flyouts is what Yahoo gamechannel is saying.
NO
i never wanted to do the betemit for linebrink deal
I was ifey about the deal before the injury.
This may soudn weird, but I have more confidence in our relievers than our starters now.
If JS was to still make a move, I’m somehow hoping for another starter
I just want all of you to know…I hate Beltran.
Me too Davey.
I’d rather have Betemit pitch.
i’m with davey. every starter not named smoltz is terrible. i stated this earlier in the thread, problem is there are no decent starters to get via trade.
So, basically, we’re screwed.
Yeah, the Braves are basically screwed with Chipper being hurt.
Well there is a couple…we could get Zito if we have someone like Lastings Milledge.(A’s were ready to make the deal for him but the Mets declined.) Livan Hernandez is out there but he is kind of a risk.
i hate livan. i’ve read beane would do zito for lastings, but the mets won’t do it. i read something the other day that said milledge is the next ruben mateo. very funny.
If my name was Lastings…I think I would actually hit my mother..
I never thought highly of Lastings. The comparison of Lastings to Delmon Young is a complete joke.
There are alot of good starters that are just having bad years that are availible for a low price. We would just have be willing to let them get back in a groove and I don’t think were in any kind of place for a project.
Marlins move into solo 2nd in the East if the Braves fail to rally.
Not that that really matters.
I would take Thomson or Davies over Livan any day.
Well, Wryn, the Braves were in the last place for a while, so being behind the Marlins is not a big deal anymore…
…wow, Ray is on fire too!!!
Look at Ray!
his [lastings] mother named him lastings because she had already given birth to 10 kids and she swore this one would be her last, hence the name lastings. i hope the mets enjoy the next ruben mateo.
Barry Zito
Cory Lidle
Jon Lieber
Rodrigo Lopez
Kip Wells
Greg Maddux
Jake Westbrook
Mark Redman
Livan Hernandez
Joel Pineiro
Jon Garland
Jeff Suppan
Tony Armas
Jason Marquis
Jamie Moyer
Just a few Starters on the block.
i’m chaning tvs for good luck. good night.
OMIGOD PRATT ISN’T PINCHING, IT’S A MIRACLE!!
Might as well have been Pratt up there.
More warning-track power.
Damn,damn,damn,damn,damn,damn,damn,damn…I think you get the picture.
Chip’s “WELL HIT” chant is getting on my nerve…
Warning track power!!! I love it!!!
According to Pete on the radio, sixteen put-outs for the Mets’ outfield tonight.
This warning track thing is getting ridiculous.
There is a couple of starters on that list that I wouldn’t mind having.
Maddux is an instant improvement.
oh boy…
This it? Is this the end of the season?
Well that was a nauseating 3 hours.
Atleast Chip will sleep well tonight now that his Mets won.
One game =! end of the season. We need to win the next two though. :-\
Yes but Chipper Jones injured for an extended peroid of time = a big problem.
that wagner guy sure would have looked nice in a braves uniform
OH YEAH !!!!!! One down, two more to go. I still say we take 2 of 3. A sweep would be nice though.
Cheers, And have a great night!
Dan
I wouldn’t mind have Jon Garland but he has a big contract.
Cory Lidle, Jake Westbrook and Tony Armas would all help us.
Steve Phillips just mentioned the Betimet/Proctor deal again. Not going to happen since Chipper went down again.