Atlanta Braves vs. Arizona Diamondbacks – Box Score – June 09, 2010 – ESPN.
What a way to lose a game. Leading 1-0 with a runner on and one out in the eighth, Peter Moylan allowed a fly ball that should have been out two. But Heyward and McLouth collided with one another (neither seems to have called for the ball) and it went all the way to the wall for an inside-the-park homer, the first homer Moylan has allowed in over two years. McLouth was hurt on the play and left the game, so there was some good news.
The Braves’ lone run came in the top of the inning, on doubles by Heyward and McCann. This came after the usual parade of stranded baserunners. It started in the second, with a bases-loaded, one-out situation when McLouth struck out, and continued all the way to the ninth with Yunel stranded at second representing the tying run. (Yunel reached base all four times he went to the plate, with a hit and three walks.) The victim of all of this was, of course, Kenshin Kawakami, who went six innings, walking four and striking out eight. “We got absolutely no runs for him,” said Bobby after the game, with no exaggeration.
I’m leaving this up as the game thread.
Weird that we’re done with the west coast already. Not that I’ll miss it — the window of age when I was glad to have late night baseball has closed.
Man, I hate the D’Backs. It’s insulting to lose to what I think of as a terminally faceless franchise. Gah. I’m still consumed with ennui from watching The Road yesterday.
I know Kawakami pitched 6 innings of shutout baseball, but it just didn’t FEEL like it… I mean, he’s 0-8, so what more do we need to know? He just doesn’t have the Know How To Winnintiveness that our other pitches have.
How much are we paying Nate McLouth to strike out, leave huddled masses of runs LOB, and take out our best franchise player for the next decade?
It probably isn’t enough…b/c he’s the league leader in all of those things.
Why does last night feel like an Uh-Oh loss? This was a bad, bad loss last night.
I am glad that Heyward picked up on my urge to hurt McClouth, but it would have been better if he did it after Nate caught the ball.
Hanson needs to win today.
its one loss, they’ll win today and be 4-4 on the road trip
I haven’t been able to watch any of the games in AZ (except for a play here or there on MLB network), but I’m assuming this line from the AP story on last night’s game pretty much tells the tale: “Atlanta has left 35 runners on base in the last three games, nine on Wednesday.”
@ 7: Well, they still have three tough games left in Minnesota before returning to ATL, so 4-4 doesn’t make me feel that good.
@9 Exactly the way I feel. You could argue that this team could only have one or two losses on this trip easily. They should have performed better.
most people agreed that either a 5-6 or a 6-5 road trip would have been fine. Dont see why thats changing now. Braves lost a one run game, it happens. Outside of KK no one really did their job last night. Melky somehow found a way to make Nate’s AB’s look good. Its Hanson vs Willis today. Braves should have at least 6 or 7 walks in todays game. I like our chances and I dont think Minnesota will sweep us
and they could be 1-5 on this trip also
This is the perfect opportunity to put McLouth on the DL and send him on one of those endless rehab / witness protection programs where we never see him in Atlanta again this season.
Bobby has, via poor bullpen management, given 2 games away on this trip. Chavez in LA and then Moylan last night. Yes, the ball should have been caught, but there’s no way Moylan should’ve been in that game. He’s been struggling mightily lately, and as I posted somewhere in last night’s game thread, if Martinez can pitch when we trail by one in the 8th, he could have pitched when we were leading by one in the 8th.
its time to start giving Kimbrel some of these games also. Bobby doesnt have a single RHP that he trust right now
Well, he mistakenly trusts Moylan. I agree that that would have been a good opportunity to test Kimbrel.
The pitching matchups for the Min series are:
Hudson v. Liriano
Lowe v. Blackburn
Medlen v. Slowey
All pretty much look like toss ups to me.
stu @ 16,
Bobby is not mistakenly trusting Moylan. he is mistakenly trusting him on 4 out of 5 days and things like that.
The guys need rest.
It will be interesting to see what the Resop move is. To bring him up you have to clear a 40 man spot and a 25 man spot. I think he is too much of a “lottery ticket” with his ML track record to bring anything useful for this year back (although stocking a highly projectable low ceiling middle infielder or 3B right now wouldn’t be such a bad thing).
or a CF who can hit .250+
What about how to play Glaus?
The foot thing is painful to watch. I wonder if that will keep being a problem.
Otherwise, if you are the Braves do you want 1 more year? (I kind of do to cover for first and third). Right now his agent and he would have to consider a guarantee of this year’s incentives and a decent (8 to 10) 1 year extension. Too much risk for him to let that go as a RH 1B / DH (look at all the guys at the altar last year).
Ultimately, the money will probably need to cover left field more than deal with Glaus. Melky and Diaz will both go up again in arb and you take the 2 salaries together and get one real left fielder, maybe.
18 – Why not bring up Resop and DFA Chavez. Chavez has no business being on either roster right now.
The annoying thing about that collision is that McLouth and Heyward have had several plays in the last couple of days where they coverged on a ball and got it right.
Boy that Soriano decision looks worse and worse every day.
I think we might see Marek real soon as well.
Boy that Soriano decision looks worse and worse every day.
Which decision?
#23 – do we really have to explain the Soriano decision again, why is this so difficult to understand?
explain it, no
But he botched it.
and take a chill.
I know Sori makes a lot of money but if you can’t trade someone with his ability (2-0, 1.59, 15 Sv) and get something with some value, you botched it badly. Teams are actually willing to take on high priced assets if they perform. You don’t just have to give them away. Crazy but true.
Bobby has, via poor bullpen management, given 2 games away on this trip. Chavez in LA and then Moylan last night.
Ridiculous on it’s face. Using Kimbrel or Martinez last night is far from a sure win. Same for using Wagner for an inning before turning to the back end in LA. As usual you are doing results-driven analysis, which has very little value.
What do you know? Stephen Marek’s not too shabby this year.
The mistake Wren made was assuming Soriano wouldn’t accept arbitration. When he did the Braves were left with their pants down. He took the first deal that came along.
27—Just because you say it doesn’t make it so, Bob. Sorry. It’s not results-based; I complain about these decisions as they’re being made. Predictable results follow.
If you think my comments have so little value, by all means, skim over them and direct your always-dickish replies somewhere else! ITG.
26—Please explain how it was botched. Getting Chavez? Trading Soriano at all?
Marek has been good. Hopefully he has gotten his confidence up.
McOut really needs and injury to crop up. Didn’t he have eye surgery this offseason too? Maybe he has a killer stye that will put him on the DL.
He played a game of chicken with Soriano and blinked and we got Chaves instead who is awful.
We then signed Saito who is okay but old for about the same money, se he botched it.
So Soriano > Chavez + Saito.
I know its just my opinion not knocking anybody else’s thoughts or feelings. I just don’t like signing old pitchers with the way Bobby runs them out there.
Done deal, Colorado to the Pac-10. They moved early to make sure Baylor didn’t jump in and steal their spot.
http://www.dailycamera.com/news/ci_15268160
32—Actually, Soriano’s making at least a couple million more than Saito will. (Wagner was really the Soriano replacement, handedness notwithstanding.) What are you saying he should’ve done?
The debate is Wagner vs Soriano. It was one or the other for the Braves. They were never going to pay both.
Essentially the Braves traded two drafts picks (the one they gave Boston for Wagner and the one Soriano will certainly net next year in free agency) & Soriano for Wags and Chavez.
36—Hmm. That is kind of depressing.
If you think my comments have so little value, by all means, skim over them and direct your always-dickish replies somewhere else! ITG.
A lot of your comments have value and a lot of them are plain wrong. I tend to respond more to the wrong ones because those are the most interesting.
Lighten up Francis. Posting on an open message board and then getting all defensive when someone calls BS is pretty silly.
As entertaining as last night’s game thread was (people rejoicing over USC, folks happy Nate was hurt, etc.) I can only imagine if Bobby had started the eighth with Martinez and he had blown the lead. People would have absolutely lost their shit.
True, i got that backwards.
I wanted to keep Soriano, I would have taken him to arb and signed the deal and gone after Wagner and let Saito alone.
We were relying on several old guys in our pen to give us many innings and the way Bobby trots them out there it is a dangerous game to play.
Then again, Sori’s health history is no gem.
38—For the record, if Martinez had started the inning, I would have been on there (a) wondering why Kimbrel wasn’t used, but (b) defending Bobby, given how overused Moylan’s been lately.
Calling BS when you don’t know what you’re talking about doesn’t make you the voice of reason.
39—So, you’d have signed both Soriano and Wagner, and had Hinske as our everyday first baseman?
Soriano has injury and head-case issues. Wagner’s a legitimate upgrade—the draft-pick thing makes me a little ill, though.
So, Colorado to the Pac 10. With the SEC desperately trying to get the Texas schools in the fold, it would be a great time for VU to try to move to the ACC! Too bad the Board is too proud and stubborn to ever consider it.
Just a reminder… we’re still in 1st place.
Calling BS when you don’t know what you’re talking about doesn’t make you the voice of reason.
Well I know this is BS:
Bobby has, via poor bullpen management, given 2 games away on this trip. Chavez in LA and then Moylan last night.
So that’s what I responded to. Saying Bobby gave the game away because he used Moylan instead of Wild Thing – when it was actually the defense to blame anyway – is just flat wrong.
Saying the decision in LA to use Chavez against the bottom of the order instead of Wagner (you’ve got to get through at least two innings to win, I’ll save Wagner for Furcal-Kemp-Either) is the equivalent of giving the game away is again flat wrong. I apologize for having a low tolerance for flat wrongness stated with absolute certainty.
Yeah, it is the whole package of problems with the Sori including the picks.
I just feel that Wren gambled there an lost, but maybe it worked out because if we count Glaus as an addition to the Sori subtraction then it is good.
What the heck is going on in college sports? Do teams change conferences as much as Bobby change pitchers?
Well, the number of relevant conferences is soon going to match the number of relievers Bobby will use with a lead! I don’t think either situation is ideal.
#44 – That’s a fascinating line. Does that work in your real life? I’m trying to imagine a meeting I could be in where I could drop that line and not be met with eyerolls from around the room.
What the heck is going on in college sports?
Exciting times! A Pac-16 with Colorado, Texas, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, Oklahoma and Oklahomas State. Seems too good to be true. The SEC has the top power brokers in the land, they will probably find a way to screw it up.
HA!
is the Big East dead now for football? I dont really follow it much but who is still in it?
ATL Thurs lineup. 1. Prado 2B, 2. Heyward RF, 3. Jones 3B, 4. Glaus 1B, 5. Escobar SS, 6. Infante LF, 7. Ross C, 8. Cabrera CF, 9. Hanson P
we actually signed Saito before Soriano accepted arb. If anything we shouldve waited. There is no way Wren couldve paid all 3 and he, like the rest of us, never thought Soriano would accept. We couldnt have afforded Hinske or Glaus at that point, so he had to move him. How many teams were looking for $7mil relievers with health concerns?
DOB says the Braves have signed Lipka and Suschak.
per Bowman, Lipka has been signed
Nice job Frank.
Lets get them into the fold.
Lipka to Orlando (extended spring training) on Monday and Suschak to Danville on Monday. I feel sorry for whoever is still stuck in Orlando.
Arodys Vizcaino has been promoted to Myrtle Beach (A+)
Goldstein with a brief run-down of the NL East teams’ respective drafts.
So what OF should targeting in the trade market? has anybody looked around for a match for the braves? I havent been able to find anything special.
Wish I knew how much money we had. Berkman would be pretty sweet.
Between this and the bullpen usage regurgitations I swear you boys would bitch about tapping a supermodel five nights a week, because you went home alone on the weekends. You know what 35 runners left on base means? That they’re getting on base all the damned time. That they got unlucky with BABIP. That’s it. The team Frank Wren has put together is as good as any in the NL. They’re leading the division into June, with primary parts (Chipper, Yunel, McLouth, Jurrjens) not contributing to date. And all you can think to do is to bitch about what-if scenarios for pie-in-the-sky bullpen scenarios that never had a chance of being reality?
Take the split in AZ. Go to Minny and win 2. Come home and keep up the good work. It’s like you’ve forgotten how to enjoy a good team.
Shanks says that HS Simmons, Filak, and Fleming have signed, too.
check out these 4 slg%’s and their ranks in MLB
Nate McLouth .282 -4th worst in baseball
Yunel Escobar .292 – 7th
Melky Cabrera .308 – 12th
Chipper Jones .350 – 29th
Wow, and we still have a good record.
Funny how you can win without your studs doing much. Shows the overall depth of the squad this year.
Frank has done a good job accumulating backup level talent like Omar, Hinske, and Ross to plug the gaps that have developed. It gives a team great confidence to see guys like that on your bench.
I checked the site looking for those 3 immortal words every Braves Journal reader longs to see: “McLouth to DL”. Unfortunately I still don’t see anything on this.
The real key to the draft, as usual, seems to be whether we can get the low-round wildcards to actually sign. I hope we have the coin to make it happen.
It’s not time to panic due to taking a micro view of the season. Plenty of time for that in late September. Right now, the macro view is just fine, with success having come despite significant shortfalls from players that were expected to contribute in the pre-season.
Anyone have an idea who Rome’s starters are tonight and tomorrow? I’m trying to decide which game I want to go to, and I’d rather see mildly competent starting pitching than not. I do realize the pickings are now slim.
The Braves’ payroll this year is reportedly 13 million dollars less than it was in 2009. So, yes, the Braves could have afforded to keep Soriano if they didn’t cut payroll. Or Johnson for left field.
Oh, but they needed that money for “something good.” I guess that ended up being Melky Cabrera?
68—We went over this a million times in the offseason and during Spring Training. Long story short: No, when accounting for insurance money, incentive money, etc., the Braves are not $13 million under where they were last year.
troy glaus is going to reach all of his bonuses…that adds a significant amount of money to the “payroll”.
guys, quit complaining. it’s like everyone is turning into jon k…
I hope he does reach all his bonuses, that would mean very good things are going on for this team.
This stuff about USC is great.
Don’t tell me I can’t bitch–I’m a pro baseball fan!
Lipka signed for $800,000.
If my math is correct, once Nebraska makes it official to the big ten, the the Big Ten will have Twelve teams and the Big 12 will have 10.
Sam, Quit trying to be a voice of reason… doom and gloom is what sells
rumor is the SEC wants to add and possibly up to 16 teams
those 4 being included could be – Miami, FSU, GA Tech, VA Tech, or Texas
Id be shocked
I would imagine that the University of Georgia might have an issue with one of those schools. The others? If we gotta expand, fine. Bring ’em on.
When they went to 12, I’d have preferred Miami & FSU to USC & Arkansas anyway.
Arizona’s Pitcher
I like Dontrelle Willis, but… here’s to a D-Train meltdown & an ultimate D-Rail.
Not that I’m too worried with this bunch, but the Braves gotta take pitches, especially early. Willis had a good outing last time, but he’s really fragile.
At his last game in Detroit, he started bad (wild high), then began to breathe heavy & circle the mound like he was having a panic attack. It was really painful to watch.
I didn’t agree with strike two to Heyward and I didn’t agree with the balk.
D-Train is having a hard time getting on track.
Now that was just pathetic.
77—Pretty sure only 9 of 12 have to approve a new school.
We must be the leaders in GIDP with one out and runners on 1st and 3rd
Angel Hernandez is such a bad ump. That 1-2 pitch was the definition of strike 3, and now it’s become a walk.
Willis was all over the place & Glaus really smashed that 3-2 pitch for the GIDP. We’ll get to him.
At least Yunel has been walking.
Why did you swing at that, Omar?
I don’t really see why anyone is swinging the bat.
I agree with ububba. Hernandez cost Hanson nine pitches.
You can just feel today’s impending Dontrelle Willis implosion.
A… “stolen” base? What, pray tell, is that?
Seriously, guys… STOP SWINGING.
So much for being patient.
Dan, our offense imploded first.
Angel Hernandez sucks. He just called a fastball right down the middle a ball.
Jim Powell: “Neither team has any idea where the strike zone is right now.”
It would be nice if Hanson learned how to conserve his pitches a bit more.
I’m in a foul mood–and just hearing Chip Caray talk is about to make me explode.
He’s squeezing Hanson, but luckily Willis has been so wild that even Hernandez can’t call those pitches strikes.
Jim Powell: “In the first two-plus innings, this is the worst strike zone I’ve seen all season.”
In fairness to Hernandez, that 0-2 pitch to Hanson was outside. He did get that one right.
But then, the next pitch—knee-high, middle of the plate—he gets wrong. I give up.
@99 – as bad as some of the umpiring has been this year, that’s saying a lot.
What a mess this game is already.
I hate our offense for not being able to kill this guy.
This team is, pretty clearly, really tired.
It looks like we are feeling sorry for Willis and want to help him as much as possible.
Are umpires government employees?
That’s the only thing I can figure for their ineptness and job security.
In fairness, Angel Hernandez is the Nate McLouth of umpires. Most of them are much, much better.
I hope Willis bunts, because he can really hit.
Hanson, again, isn’t putting guys away. He looks like he’ll go five, maybe.
He isn’t putting guys away because he’s painting the black and Angel Hernandez can’t see.
He hasn’t been squeezed this inning.
That ball 4 was another strike.
Between Willis & Hernandez, this game feels like we’re indulging a crazy man on the subway.
Here we go.
This sucks.
Why is Angel Hernandez allowed to do this?
Yeah, I think the umpiring has been awful, but I really think that ball 4 was not a strike. I also think that Hanson is typically pitch inefficient because he nibbles.
Waist-high, middle of the plate? Sure looked like a strike to me.
This game is turning into Alice in Wonderland.
Ross has to block that one….
It’s hardly nibbling if he’s hitting the corners and the ump is calling it inconsistently.
Dammit, Tommy, you have to cover the plate there.
Terrible, Ross. That’s worse than McCann.
“You don’t have to trick ’em. Just get ’em out.”
As if Chip knows anything about baseball.
Perfect pitch, Tommy.
Careful here.
Is the second run earned?
Finally.
Passed ball? I think not.
Well, this is getting interesting.
122 — Yes.
I thought it was a wild pitch.
Hanson at 75 pitches in 3 innings. I think we can rule out a complete game at this point. I’ll be happy if he makes it into the 6th.
Was McCann’s homer in LA the last one for the Braves?
Seems like it’s been years since we hit one.
I wonder how the Braves are gonna squander this scoring opportunity…
Angel isn’t squeezing Willis.
Omar swung at ball 4. I don’t understand why.
Omar swung at ball 4, but at least he got the run in.
Ross!
Snitker f***ing idiot!!! The runner would have scored on one leg, and the pitcher was up. Man am I tired of him!
So Melky’s really hitting the ball well lately.
I have no idea why any team would employ Dontrelle Willis. His stuff isn’t good and his command is awful.
Utter desperation.
I know the feeling, as I recently signed him to my fantasy team.
And he’s a head case now.
That pitch went IN FRONT OF Prado. WTF.
I have no idea how the catcher stopped that one.
I actually feel really badly for Dontrelle.
Does the Big 12 have cooties?
I know it’s been asked before, but can you DFA a pitcher in the middle of a game?
He’s turned into Steve Blass/Mark Wohlers.
Can we get an RBI BB, please…
I’m not really surprised what’s happened to Dontrelle, considering his complicated delivery and his heavy workload at a young age for Florida.
Really? No, seriously?
And somehow, the Braves only get 2 runs out of that.
Well, he found stuff for one AB.
Terrible at bat by Jason.
That didn’t look like he swung.
Well, we still get to bat against the Arizona bullpen today.
Will we EVER get a hit with RISP in Arizona?
Uh… David Ross just did.
Yahoo! has us leading 3-2.
150 — He really should have appealed, but Hernandez is a piece of crap.
Much needed easy inning for Tommy.
Man, radio stream on iPhone MLB At-Bat app is a good 3 pitches *behind* GAMECAST.
Can we get a knockout here?
What an unfortunate ground-rule double. That’s a triple and 2 RBI, easy.
Great job by Ross! That bounce cost the Braves a run, though.
410 foot ground rule double.
Another hit with RISP for David! Thank goodness he came to play today. He, Martinez, and Kimbrel are about the only guys on the roster who haven’t been overworked.
Don Sutton is really bad at describing what’s going on.
I am getting pretty pissed off about not scoring guys from 1st base on doubles with two out.
yes!!
Tommy!
Also, @164, it bounced over the fence, so not much anyone could do about that.
Damn straight.
ALRIGHT, TOMMY!
Way to go, Tommy. A little DIY…
Sutton just said that Tommy would look to jump on the first pitch, and then did.
Hanson has more RBI’s than McLouth.
Tommy!
Thank God.
And Hanson gets the big hit. If you want a job done right, do it yourself and have McLouth run over.
c’mon deathblow here.
Mark Grace just said “This crew has gotten about every call right during this homestand.”
Seriously.
It’s amazing that this is the same team that couldn’t score for the first three innings off D-Train.
@176 I heard it too. I’ve found the D’Backs crew to be disconcertingly dull; I’ll take them over Chip, but they’re annoying nonetheless.
Nice work Jason.
Nice to see Heyward getting a key hit again.
Nice.
How ’bout one more XBH, fellas? Let’s make this easy before we head for the Land of Mary Tyler Moore.
Dbacks bullpen is awesome.
How come only one run scored on Heyward’s hit?
166 – Weird. I made the comment about the double with Ross getting held and Hanson coming up in the 4th.
It just showed up, but I am commenting from my Blackberry.
The Dbacks broadcast team is insufferable.
182 — Because the 2nd base runner was the pitcher Hanson.
shallow single and hanson on base slowing it down.
And Zombie Chipper does what he does best.
That works.
Thanks guys!
Boyer throwing 97mph?
Watching Blaine Boyer come to the mound in an opposing uniform is even more comforting than Garret Anderson coming to bat.
Chipper’s only skill set is being able to draw a walk now…good time for it
Come on Troy, blast this one.
I remember when Boyer was good.
I think I’ll take a split on the West Coast.
Hate ever leaving the bases loaded, but that inning might’ve won us the game.
here is where Tommy should cut down on the pitches and make them swing the bats, dont nibble
serious question: does Tommy throw a curve?
198 — Yes. He throws a fastball, slider, curve, and a change.
Hanson at 103 pitches. Wonder if Bobby tries to ride him for 1 more.
I suspect Tommy is done after throwing more than 100 pitches in his last outing as well.
So, does The Lisp get the 6th (and possibly 7th)?
Boyer was never actually good in the minors…he just had that one good half-season as a rookie in 05.
strikeouts are nice, but Id much rather see Tommy going 7IP with 5-6K’s
Maybe Bobby can finally find some work for Kimbrel…
Hanson still in there. He’s thrown a lot of pitches lately.
I don’t understand why Bobby always tries to stretch the starter just a bit farther when he shouldn’t.
The starter usually gets into trouble anyway with the reliever having to come in with runners on.
He did it with Kawakami in his last 2 starts too.
LaRoche just struck out looking–except he didn’t.
“Listen, it’s a fair question to ask: Will Adam LaRoche still be a Diamondback after the trade deadline.” — Chip F. Caray
Would anyone dispute the fairness of that question? So many needless words from that blowhard.
@206: We’ve got a huge stretch without an off-day and the bullpen is already worn out and tired. Bobby’s gotta use Hanson as long as possible today.
Why would Arizona trade a guy in the 1st year of a new 3 year deal, Chip?
209 — Except for the thing whole Hanson is 23 years old with 120 pitches thrown today thing.
And it’s not like Martinez or Kimbrel have pitched a lot.
Who’s coming in?
F– pitch counts.
Hanson has thrown 109, 118 and 121 pitches his last three starts.
You shouldn’t put this heavy of a workload on a young pitcher unless the season is on the line…which it’s not.
And again, just leaving the starter in longer usually just means the reliever’s going to have to come in during a jam (caused by the gassed starter) anyway.
Nicse worsk, Lisp.
The D’Backs’ “score card” theme continues to make my eyes feel heavy.
Speaking of eyes, I think that the rotating signs that keep coming up eye doctors are trying to tell Angel Hernandez something.
I hate the way Chip says “Gutierrez”
And his usual depth perception issues.
Chip just had an accident in his pants with a 350 ft fly ball
Chip: “The Braves are a 25 man team.”
Thank you for that information.
He then claimed that Bobby uses all 25 of those men. Craig Kimbrel would beg to differ.
Chip is so awful.
so this is the guy you’re all begging Bobby to play more?
Kimbrel is the new Joey Devine.
David, Martinez has to be up for some reason. We just thought, apparently erroneously, that it might have to do with pitching.
Hey, it’s down to a 3-run lead — maybe we’ll get to see Moylan again!
The game’s a lot more fun on mute with my MP3 player going.
May as well try to leave the Lisp in for one more before tossing to Wagner.
How ’bout making this a non-save situation?
I tuned in late to the game and missed Dontrelle’s 4 IP. I just saw some early inning highlights, though, and wow. Willis looks like absolute hell.
Barbaro Canizares would be more valuable to this team than the 12th pitcher who we never use.
Dang it.
Dammit.
God just throw to first.
Yunelled again
Venters really does have nasty stuff. Reminds me of Jeremy Affeldt.
I hate Yunel Escobar. I hate him.
I remember when Boyer was good.
I think for like 14 or 18 or some odd number consecutive innings in 2005.
Way to go, Melky! You should have slapped that gut inside his pants.
237—As do I. Of course, I also love him.
no granny no granny no granny
Huge Shit.
Ugh. I miss Saito.
So sad.
We really need to come back and win this thing.
well, that was expected.
Great.
You gotta be shitting me.
Well those injuries have hurt us lately.
Nothing ever comes easy for this band of bums out west. WTF
I goddam hate baseball.
I don’t care much for the intangibles but man am I sick of Yunel playing like a spaced out airhead
I wonder how many leads we are going to blow in the 8th inning.
As far as I’m concerned, the Braves’ chances of winning this one are close to zero now. Should have taken three out of four, instead we’re going to be 1-3 against this team. That really sucks.
that falls on Escobar’s lap. cover the GD bag you idiot
Moylan again? Interesting choice.
EDIT: Whew!
Kelly Johnson is killing us.
Game ain’t over at all.
I fucking hate Yunel Escobar.
Bobby Cox is a terrible, terrible manager.
What’s wrong with this team?
Escobar is like a crazy girlfriend. At times awesome, and at times you want to choke her to death.
How many more games like this can a fan take?
257—Well, that’s overstating it, but I sure do wish he’d sometimes use the guy with the best relief stuff in the system.
lol@ bobby is a terrible manager
Venters should have been out of the inning, but sure it’s bobby’s fault
Well, I’m going to go mow my yard.
Well, I’m going to go mow my yard.
Why is Bobby pinch-hitting for the guy who is 2 for 4 with a double and 2 RBIs?
that falls on Escobar’s lap. cover the GD bag you idiot
Or Venters, who inexplicably refused to take the sure-out at first base.
I guess that’s why.
Please no bunt here!
Is Brooks Conrad really a “little guy”?
Way to go, Brooks.
I don’t mind Melky bunting in a tie game in the 9th.
Melky, despite his recent hot streak, is a much better bunter than hitter. And it’s a tie game in the 9th on the road.
271, read “The Book” then.
No, Joe, the pitcher’s spot is in the 4 hole, and Hinske would come in for Blanco, with McCann staying in the game to catch.
That went really well.
Higher chance of scoring one run which would set up with Wagner pitching the 9th.
Except Melky sucks.
Good God Melky. I hate this team.
some guys look good even when they strike out. Melky is not one of those people.
WOW i thought conrad was out
Sorry to disappoint the self-loathing, self-immolating lovers of defeatist misery, but we might win this game.
BANNNNNNNNG!
McCann!
@279 – Our very own nattering nabobs of, well, you know.
Is it a “blown save” if the game is tied?
Reason #3,481 I love Brian McCann: he got to second on the throw. This whole series both teams have been screwing up and not getting the extra base, and here’s the slowest guy in the stadium showing how it’s done.
Hopefully Wagner can nail this down — and get a win for Moylan after last night’s undeserved loss.
lol “another blown save for qualls.” -chip
the score was 7 to 7, chip, it’s not a blown save.
Qualls has been good to the Braves.
283 — No.
@283,
No, Chip’s stupid.
@279, LOL. I tip my cap to you, sir.
Karma, baby.
Nice to see them have a collision.
That play would have made the ’62 Mets proud.
Nice. The Diamondbacks are awful.
Wow, Cox is a terrible manager. How he’s still with the Braves is beyond me.
Serves Qualls right for acting like a total jackass the other day.
If we get another run or two nobody complain about using Wagner. This is an Atlanta Save Situation if I’ve ever seen one.
Glad Venters is off the hook after Escobar’s jackassery.
I’d take
Ohio State
Michigan
Wisconsin
Iowa
Penn State
Nebraska
Notre Dame (possible)
anyday… over
Florida
LSU
Alabama
Florida State (Probable)
Miami (Probable with mega conference)
Tenn
Georgia
I think Bobby pulled the strings in the right order in that inning..
jeez upton has a cannon
You do that, Jon K. Our teams will beat yours.
That’s because you’re drunk on Keystone Light again, Jon.
Chip just called the 11th run “ABC Baseball.” How, in what way was any of this inning “ABC Baseball?”
was it when melky didn’t get the bunt down? was it when the d’backs had 3 guys collide and drop a fly ball? or after the play when the catcher had to cover 3rd bc no one else did?
ABC baseball? Ok chip.
Well we could count on Yunel to get it done, there.
Or rather, get it over with.
#296
Anytime? Put this in your bong…
Ohio State all-time bowls vs. SEC: 0-8
Georgia all-time bowls vs. Big 10: 7-0
No it’s because I’m smooth… Like Keith Stone
Wow. What an arm on Conrad.
What a strange game this has been.
This is the first chance I’ve had to get online today. Pulling for players to be injured is pretty low. I thought you were better than that, Mac.
I’d take the Big Ten top to bottom, but Florida and Bama are so much better than everyone else that it doesn’t really matter.
F’ing hell.
I do not believe this crap.
Re the “blown save”–yet another illustation of Chip as a blithering idiot announcer.
I hate this team.
Shouldn’t you bring in another pitcher now that the save is in order to, you know, rack up a stat?
Ufatubba
Put this in your cockpipe and suck it
Apparently you forgot about that Penn State beat down they gave UGA for the 83 title. And don’t come back and tell me that Penn State wasn’t in the big ten then, the fact is your talking about an entire history of a team so each team must be included.
No personal attacks.
I was at the game, Jon.
And no, they weren’t in the Big 10. They were playing Temple & Navy back then.
Never in serious doubt.
Braves win!
Watch it, Jon.
MS@E — I’ve been saying all along that McLouth was hurt, I’m just hoping now he’ll admit it.
What a game. Should have been 3 of 4.
I hate college football. And even I know that Jon K is way off-base here.
I don’t want to encourage any more arguments about college football, but can someone explain to me what’s going on with all these teams vacating their conferences?
UF great and bama great. But let’s give some respect to teams like Michigan and Notre Dame. Both UF and Bama have had multiple down streches in the mid 90-early 2000’s. Both have come back with a vengance and are at the top of the college football world. At one point in the next 5 years michigan, notre dame or both will be back to the status of a top 25 program. It’s only a matter of time… it happens with UF and bama and it happens with any traditionally great program. Penn State stunk in the early 2000s but they are back to a top 15 program. Every program has ups and downs… UF and bama wont be on top forever.
Man that’s even worse… if they were playing temple and navy back in 82 then your good ole georgia bulldogs should have stompped them since they were clearly the better team…. hmmm guess not.
Nice job, guys! My yard is mowed and the Braves have a win!
I see that Jon K remains laughable.
Jschiller
please explain to me how am I way off base?
238 – thats what I was referring too, ever since then he’s sucked
296 – are you referring to womens softball or volleyball. Im confused
Recapped.
csg
Well yeah I meant football, womens softball, men’s and women’s volleyball, Education… pretty much anything you want to think off. See besides Vanderbilt, your conference is quite laughable in terms of education and research. While your conference may be the “best” football conference at the moment, you will never however be anywhere near the top academic and research conference.
Well, Florida and Georgia are fine, but…yeah. That’s the main reason I don’t see the Texas schools coming to the SEC. Too much academic stink.