here’s also hoping that we dont hit any HR’s and kill any rallies tonight!
td
on August 25, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Least favorite Braves
Danny Frisella
Albie Lopez
Mark Redmond
Corky Miller
Dan Kolb
Len Barker
Kyle B.
on August 25, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Reitsma? Lockhart?
td
on August 25, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Cox worked Reitsma to death (not unlike Boyer and now possibly Gonzalez) and he had a measure of success until his last year. I wasn’t following the Braves too closely when Lockhart was around.
mhr
on August 25, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Wickman? Hampton? Jeffy?
spike (back in the ATL)
on August 25, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Wickman was pretty good for the most part.
Nick
on August 25, 2009 at 2:29 pm
I don’t know how John Rocker isn’t in everybody’s least favorite lists.
I’ll give it a go:
Current
1)Chipper
2)McCann
3)Jurrjens
4)David Ross (don’t know why…just like him)
5)Gonzalez
Note that this would be an active roster list, as Hudson would probably be No. 2 if he were active.
For all-time, I’m gonna go with ones I saw play:
1)Javy Lopez
2)Chipper
3)Smoltz
4)Maddux
5)Brian Jordan (and yes…I am basically pretending his comeback early this decade didn’t happen because I liked him so much late in the last one)
Least favorite:
1)John Rocker (see above)
2)Jeff Francoeur
3)Danny Kolb
4)Deion Sanders
5)Kenny Lofton
The first three on the list were basically the only three I could think of that I would have booed while they were still on the team. Deion is really kind of a hindsight one, but I’m still including him. And Lofton I never really liked, but I supported him while he was on the team. He immediately left and went back to Cleveland though, making it very easy for me.
sdp
on August 25, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Wickman makes me thing of a Golden Corral buffet–barf.
Jason C
on August 25, 2009 at 2:29 pm
From the previous thread: Least favorite:
1. Keith Lockart
2. Lonnie Smith(’91 was unexcuseable)
3. Mark Lemke(sorry)
How can anyone hate the Lemmer? As a player, that is. His ’91 WS should get him a lifetime pass. And nobody turned the deuce better.
Alex R.
on August 25, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Yeah, can’t hate the Lemmer. Scrappy little guy. (but let me say this…having heard his voice on my computer when I play a game from MLB, God his voice is atrocious…sorry, he sucks as a radio guy).
Yes, John Rocker was an ignoramus, but as a player, he had a measure of success.
My problem and enduring hatred of Keith Lockhart is because he always sucked and yet it SEEMED like he played for us for 17 years (when it reality it was like 5 or 6?).
Watching Keith Lockhart in a Braves uniform felt like one of those extended stays in a hospital. You think they’re going to release you one day and then here comes another nurse with a needle and she’s only changing your IV.
Alex R.
on August 25, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Oh – happy birthday, ububba. Hope we beat a team we’re supposed to beat as a little present for you.
mikemc
on August 25, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Medlen has been pitching very well, but he sits and watches games for a week at a time. I think Bobby has to find a way to use him. He could be used in later innings to take some pressure off Moylan and Gonzalez. Otherwise their arms are going to fall off.
spike (back in the ATL)
on August 25, 2009 at 2:35 pm
And nobody turned the deuce better.
Hey – that’s just a rumor. No need to go around repeating it.
Remy
on August 25, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Don’t know if anyone’s mentioned this yet, but Schafer is scheduled to have surgery on his wrist.
Happy birthday, Ububba. Chimay’s on me the next time I’m in NYC or you’re in our nation’s capital.
My fave current Braves:
Chipper
McCann
Jurrjens
Vazquez
Diaz
(Honorable mention: Martin Prado)
All time:
Hank Aaron (never saw him play, but he was my hero growing up; I nearly wore out my paperback of “I Had a Hammer”)
Glavine
Maddux
Smoltz
Andruw
And, yes, there’ll always be a light on in my heart for Skip Caray. The only time I ever got to hear Ernie Johnson Sr. was on the season recap videos they used to send to season ticket holders, so Skip will always be the play-by-play guy of my childhood. I only wish I was older at the time so I could remember him better now.
Ben
on August 25, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Jorgbacca:
If LaRoche keeps hitting the way he’s been since rejoining the team, you might have to adjust his ranking on your “least favorite” list.
* I would put Deion, but he gets a pass for the McCarver incident.
Johnny
on August 25, 2009 at 3:10 pm
All get the most out of just a little talent list:
Hubbard
Milan – don’t know how that guy didn’t de nut himself when he swung the bat. He choked up nearly to the label. Besides you gotta like a guy named Felix.
Lemke
Greg Olsen – the catcher.
Bruce Benedict
Ralph Garr – no power, couldn’t field, and a strike zone that makes Diaz look selective but dang he could hit. And run like the dickens.
My all time list is pretty much like everyone elses but I’m going to throw out one of mine thats not. Steve Avery. I really thought during that very short period he was great that he was going to be the best of the then big 4. And Darrel Evans too.
My wife seems to only remember one Brave. Zane Smith. To this day she’ll ask if he is still playing. Her comment ‘If I made that much money I sure would have something done that mouth. That is one ugly man.’
Alex R.
on August 25, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Jason C – Brett Boone – good choice. What a bag of loser rocks that idiot was for us.
I second the notion that considering what LaRoche is doing right now, no one should have Adam on their least favorite and I was a big Adam basher back in the day.
Thanks for the well wishes—Hank (from the previous thread), you’re scaring me. 😉
Alex R.
on August 25, 2009 at 3:16 pm
I could also never hate Pascual Perez because his getting lost in Atlanta near the stadium is one of my all time favorite Brave stories.
Pete Falcone…he was terrible but I liked him because he looked like a bad mofo on the mound. He just wasn’t any good.
Jorgbacca
on August 25, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Adam LaGross will have to do more than play decent/well in August/September when we’re way behind in the division to lose the distinction of my second most hated Brave in my lifetime.
Stu
on August 25, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Well, FWIW, he’s been playing a little better than “decent/well” since we got him back. And “LaGross” doesn’t even make sense.
I suspect every team every year has a lot of random relievers. Manny Acosta? Jeff Bennett?
Joshua
on August 25, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Top 5 Current:
McCann
Chipper
Diaz
Escobar
Jurrjens
Top 5 Ever:
Maddux (smartest ballplayer I have ever seen)
Smoltz (was #1 until this offseason)
Murphy
Chipper
Glavine
Bottom 5:
Frenchy (dumbest ballplayer I have ever seen)
Corky
KrotchRocket
Tex (never seemed like he belonged)
Rietsma
Boomer
on August 25, 2009 at 5:50 pm
Bottom 1:
Milwaukee’s Worst
Mr.Swings@Everything
on August 25, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Darren Bragg was not very good but he threw me a ball that he caught for the final out of a game that Smoltz saved. His batting intro music was also Sympathy for the Devil so he had that going for him. Which is nice.
My current favorites are
1. Diaz
2. Hanson
3. Medlen
4. Vazquez
5. Prado
There is no one on the current roster that I particularly dislike but my all time list would go something like this.
1. Cox
no explanation necessary
distant 2nd. Rocker
A constant reminder of how embarrasing it can be to be a Braves fan. Also sucked. I cant stand wild pitchers.
3. Mike Hampton
Threw one pitch and couldn’t locate it particularly well. It sucked that he was hurt all the time but I can’t hold that against the guy. I just hated the way he pitched.
Smitty
on August 25, 2009 at 6:03 pm
happy birthday ububba
joelk
on August 25, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Ok, that “broom” conversation was just dumb!
joelk
on August 25, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Did anyone else think the look on Jair’s face after watching ache loaf over to that ball was WTF?
Randy
on August 25, 2009 at 6:20 pm
I already listed my worst 5 and I’ll stick by it,but I have to admit Farnsworth would have been a pretty good pick. My favorite line this preseason was when the Royals signed Farnsworth they said they wanted to not have Soria pitch so much, one Royals writer said, “This move assures that Soria won’t pitch as much, because with Farnsworth pitching the 8th, Soria will never have a game to save in the 9th.
csg
on August 25, 2009 at 6:22 pm
#54 – yep, because Loaf quit on the play and the ball landed within two feet from him
joelk
on August 25, 2009 at 6:24 pm
I thought that ball was catchable with a little better effort!
Tomas
on August 25, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Oh, damn I didn’t even realize Latos was on the mound for the Padres. I sure hope the Braves can look a little less lost compared to the last time.
Tomas
on August 25, 2009 at 6:29 pm
10 pitches, 3 outs. Not yet at least.
Dan (but not that Dan)
on August 25, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Looks like we came to play!
Dusty
on August 25, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Taking in the M-Braves tonight in Chattanooga.
Been looking forward to seeing them all year and Freeman’s DLed and Heyward’s out of the lineup.
Did see Hicks HR in the first.
Coach (2010 or Bust)
on August 25, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Loaf makes Matt Diaz look like an all-star on defense.
48,
Isn’t Acosta a young, promising prospect? Otherwise, I agree with the statement. There’s so much instability in bullpens across baseball.
Grst
on August 25, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Got a little help from the ump on that one.
braves14
on August 25, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Acosta’s 28.
Grst
on August 25, 2009 at 7:10 pm
If we keep hitting the ball this hard, something has to fall eventually.
Kyle B.
on August 25, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Rush? Pete Orr isn’t on the roster anymore, right?
spike (back in the ATL)
on August 25, 2009 at 7:16 pm
Shee-ite moslem. These are the scrubbiest scrubs that ever scrubbed, and we’re getting no-hit AND losing? At home? Some nights this team really doesn’t show up, and that’s why we are where we are.
hankonly
on August 25, 2009 at 7:23 pm
So the Fat Tub of Goo didn’t make anybody’s list? Either one?
Let’s give it up for a guy who have us one and a half good years and gave us a lot of laughs – Terry Forster.
spike (back in the ATL)
on August 25, 2009 at 7:23 pm
Hey, hey Grampa! Breakin’ up the perfecto!
Tony
on August 25, 2009 at 7:23 pm
Here we go again with the 1st game of a series again….
spike (back in the ATL)
on August 25, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Good grief. Strike out the freakin’ side whydoncha.
Marc
on August 25, 2009 at 7:30 pm
I said take 2/3 from the mets, take 2/3 from the Marlins, sweep the Padres and then see where you are. Make no mistake, we must sweep. If we lose and the Rockies win tonight we would be 5 1/2 games out and little chance to make the playoffs.
csg
on August 25, 2009 at 7:33 pm
just have to win series
Coach (2010 or Bust)
on August 25, 2009 at 7:35 pm
Matt Latos has a one hitter going through five innings with four K’s and no walks.
Jurrjens is pitching OK but like ya’ll said, it is the first game of the series…..Yikes!
spike (back in the ATL)
on August 25, 2009 at 7:36 pm
1 ER thru six is slightly better than OK.
Marc
on August 25, 2009 at 7:36 pm
Not with the way the Rockies are playing. They might actually win the west and leave the Dodgers to the wildcard. You have to sweep teams like the Padres.
Robert
on August 25, 2009 at 7:39 pm
If we lose and the Rockies win tonight we would be 5 1/2 games out and little chance to make the playoffs.
It almost doesn’t matter at this point, just keep Jurrjens and Hanson healthy. The Rockies are too good. That win last night for them was pretty magical. If you want to feel old, the Rockies just called up Eric Young Jr. to the majors.
Tony
on August 25, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Exactly Marc….it’s no winning the series nonsense now. They need to sweep the Padres.
spike (back in the ATL)
on August 25, 2009 at 7:45 pm
Wow – if it keeps on like this Jurrjens should be furious.
csg
on August 25, 2009 at 7:49 pm
you cant play thinking about sweeping teams. Its too difficult no matter who they are. If the Braves win every series from here on out they will be 22 games above .500. 92-70 is going to get themselves a very good shot at catching some teams an will most likely get themselves into the playoffs. That has to be their goal, win series
csg
on August 25, 2009 at 7:51 pm
hey, heres an idea lets get an extra base hit
Chipper last 9 games (1-23 w/ 9k’s) and that was an infield hit
Mr.Swings@Everything
on August 25, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Wow, Jim just congratulated a fan on interfering with a ball in play.
Tony
on August 25, 2009 at 7:55 pm
Chipper looks done.
c. shorter
on August 25, 2009 at 7:56 pm
I’d like to formally request a couple of runs, please. Thanks.
Ethan
on August 25, 2009 at 7:59 pm
I usually try not to judge people on their tattoo’s, but that shit on Latos’s forearms screams, “I’m a douchebag”
spike (back in the ATL)
on August 25, 2009 at 7:59 pm
gaaah. I was going to not drink tonight, but this is driving me to it.
td
on August 25, 2009 at 8:00 pm
There’s no way to tell if Chipper is done or not. He’s in a slump – not uncommon for him throughout his (or anyone’s) career. It’s just that when players get Chipper’s age, people want to say he’s done everytime he goes through a slump. Eventually he will lose and it may be now, but I think he’s got at least another solid year or two.
urlhix
on August 25, 2009 at 8:01 pm
Happy birthday, ububba. You too, Remy, in case I miss you on Thursday.
Mine’s Friday. I’m turning 40 and trying to ignore it 🙁
A few runs this game would be a nice early present, though.
Chief Nocahoma
on August 25, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Typical 2000s era Atlanta Braves. Beat the good teams and look like Little Leaguers against the bad ones.
“Keep your mouth shut when I’m talking! (addressing some kid in the crowd) I will take your mother home and make a woman out of her kid you keep your mouth shut…. I’m talking to you kid! I’ma make your mother go Woo Woo Woo.”
Mr.Swings@Everything
on August 25, 2009 at 8:10 pm
He’d be way richer if he were paid everytime he fetishized “going the other way”.
spike (back in the ATL)
on August 25, 2009 at 8:11 pm
It’s worked for Lemke…
Jon K
on August 25, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Braves win 3-1 mark it down
PeteOrr
on August 25, 2009 at 8:19 pm
WHY?!?!?! Somebody needs to take Norton out.
edit: he has shown a propensity for walks, but still, holy crap! We needed a hit, which norton gave us a 10% chance of getting from that side of the plate.
braves14
on August 25, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Rally? Cue Nort-out.
Marc
on August 25, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Oh, God not Norton. You know he’s up there looking to take a walk.
braves14
on August 25, 2009 at 8:20 pm
Walking Norton is asking for it.
Marc
on August 25, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Norton bailed out by the pitcher again.
Brian J.
on August 25, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Sometimes, I hate it when batting the Emperor works; it just encourages Cox to let him keep playing.
Coach (2010 or Bust)
on August 25, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Don’t mean to bash Norton – it’s Bobby who bothers me. Regardless of the result, it was a dumb idea to send him out there.
Stu
on August 25, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Truly pathetic. We’re an inning away from having this fan officially give up on the season.
joelk
on August 25, 2009 at 8:27 pm
JJ throwing a 5 hitter and losing!?
Marc
on August 25, 2009 at 8:27 pm
All I’m saying about Norton is that it seems every time he comes up late in a game he walks on pitches that aren’t even close which is strange considering he sucks. It’s now happened so much I think he goes up there actively hoping he doesn’t have to use his bat. I’m not saying he should be up there swinging at balls, obviously not, I just find the whole situation strange and amusing.
Coach (2010 or Bust)
on August 25, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Wow is all I can say.
ryan c
on August 25, 2009 at 8:28 pm
well, i guess the good thing is we will get to see the closer in the 9th so 3 straight righty/lefty matchups.
Kyle B.
on August 25, 2009 at 8:28 pm
If this keeps up, the recap should be brief.
ryan c
on August 25, 2009 at 8:33 pm
prediction: we win it in the 9th and ride this win all the way to the wild card. we’ve had plenty of bad predictions of late. lets try something different.
Marc
on August 25, 2009 at 8:36 pm
We’ve won the last 10 games I’ve smoked weed while watching and I’m packing a bowl….
Stu
on August 25, 2009 at 8:37 pm
I appreciate your selflessness, Marc.
ryan c
on August 25, 2009 at 8:39 pm
that’s something to be proud of marc. thank you for weeding us through to victory.
Mr.Swings@Everything
on August 25, 2009 at 8:39 pm
I’ve heard that a walk is as good as a hit.
spike (back in the ATL)
on August 25, 2009 at 8:39 pm
FWIW, Pirates are ahead late….by 1.
Grst
on August 25, 2009 at 8:42 pm
We’ve been hitting at-em balls all game.
Mr.Swings@Everything
on August 25, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Has anyone ever called in to the Chip Caray show and asked him to explain the infield fly rule?
the braves blow here
on August 25, 2009 at 8:45 pm
let it hit you ACHE!
Kyle B.
on August 25, 2009 at 8:46 pm
WTF?
ryan c
on August 25, 2009 at 8:48 pm
now the best player to have up in this situation is at the plate. lets do it esco!
the braves blow here
on August 25, 2009 at 8:51 pm
roach heroics
Brian J.
on August 25, 2009 at 8:51 pm
God protects children, fools, and the Atlanta Braves.
Mike N.
on August 25, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Get high as a fucking kite, Marc.
spike (back in the ATL)
on August 25, 2009 at 8:52 pm
Ain’t over yet, but yeah, have a little extra, Marc, just to be sure.
the braves blow here
on August 25, 2009 at 8:52 pm
WTF was that Diaz??
Alex R.
on August 25, 2009 at 8:53 pm
A bunt? What?
Brian J.
on August 25, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Bunt grounds out? BUNT GROUNDS OUT??!!?
Marc
on August 25, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Maybe I’m to high because I think I just saw Matt Diaz, who is 8 for his last 9, bunt.
Mr.Swings@Everything
on August 25, 2009 at 8:53 pm
What a game.
Matt Diaz is addicted to the bunt like Lemke is to the ____.
ryan c
on August 25, 2009 at 8:54 pm
@139 that was baseball…and would have been brilliant if it is a foot and a half to the left.
Tony
on August 25, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Capps is a terrible closer…but he does close for the Pirates.
PeteOrr
on August 25, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Assuming that the bunt was on from the bench, Bobby’s obsession with seeing Diaz bend over to take it is both disturbing and completely inexplicable. I don’t have any stats, but it definitely seems like I’ve heard “Diaz bunts it” in the last month more than anyone else.
the braves blow here
on August 25, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Oh don’t worry guys.
It wasn’t a bad idea.
urlhix
on August 25, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Lockdown time.
ryan c
on August 25, 2009 at 9:00 pm
@147
2nd baseman playing up the middle in the grass. 1st baseman playing behind the bag, almost in the grass. yes, a bunt to hit was stupid. i understand the “bunt is stupid” argument but youre reaching. it wasnt a bad play, and it wasnt called from the bench. blame bobby for when he’s wrong. it happens enough.
Marc
on August 25, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Diaz’s play wasn’t that bad. It basically comes down to what’s greater, his chance of getting a hit or his chance of pushing that bunt farther to the left. The bunt is the mathematically correct choice, but Diaz has been soooo hot I would have liked for him to swing.
I guess this will have to be where Ross busts out of his slump.
Tony
on August 25, 2009 at 9:11 pm
How does Prado look at the plate? His boxscore is horrible…
Marc
on August 25, 2009 at 9:11 pm
Be a hero Ross
Catz
on August 25, 2009 at 9:14 pm
can you believe that, the phillies lost to the pirates… i have a good friend who is a die-hard pirates fan
td
on August 25, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Believe it or not I was listening to the Braves call in show a few days ago on a rain delay. An older man who said he played with Babe Ruth called in and gave his philosophy on the team. His major gripe with Atlanta was that they don’t bunt enough. I almost lost it on that comment.
Little surprising to see Soriano pulled, given how strong he was in the 11th.
Edit: Yeah… Nice call, Bobby.
the braves blow here
on August 25, 2009 at 9:37 pm
@ 149
I didn’t like it because Diaz doesn’t strike me as a great (or even good) bunter and he’s not exceptionally fast either. I would rather him just take his swings there.
Also: I never said anything about Bobby…
Dan (but not that Dan)
on August 25, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Why did Soriano have to come out?
Randy
on August 25, 2009 at 9:38 pm
The Padres announcers just said that Garret Anderson can turn a single into a double better than anyone in the league.
Dix
on August 25, 2009 at 9:40 pm
when he’s playing left field, yea…
Tiger224
on August 25, 2009 at 9:41 pm
I love the Braves…but I am certainly hating the first game of every damn series we play.
Sheesh, boys…act like we’ve got something to play for (except you Matt Diaz and Jair Sweet J)
Tiger224
on August 25, 2009 at 9:42 pm
Come on DP…stick it in the Padres
c. shorter
on August 25, 2009 at 9:45 pm
eckstein. great. this team is such a tease.
Brian J.
on August 25, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Goddman you, scrappy Eckstein. And I mean resembling scrap.
Mr.Swings@Everything
on August 25, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Sufferin succotash
Alex R.
on August 25, 2009 at 9:45 pm
I HATE EFFING DAVID ECKSTAIN.
I mean c’mon…anoying gnat, a Gator, a Cardinal…what’s not to hate about this little tool? ugggg.
Marc
on August 25, 2009 at 9:46 pm
I’ll be happy when Eckstein retires, he really pisses me off.
Mr.Swings@Everything
on August 25, 2009 at 9:49 pm
I’m not sure if you were aware of this but he is small and white which means it’s only by a heroic display of American Spirit that he’s good at baseball.
td
on August 25, 2009 at 9:49 pm
It worked, but I still hate an intentional walk to load the bases – especially with two outs. Getting the count to 3-2 was too close for comfort.
Coach (2010 or Bust)
on August 25, 2009 at 9:50 pm
No matter the outcome of this contest, this is why our Braves will more than likely miss the playoffs.
Our Braves are beating themselves.
Dan (but not that Dan)
on August 25, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Colorado up 3-2 over the NL wild card-leading Dodgers
Kyle B.
on August 25, 2009 at 9:51 pm
The 0-10 can only mean Infante and Prado are due. I hope.
Rusty S.
on August 25, 2009 at 9:52 pm
The Dooley Womack?
csg
on August 25, 2009 at 9:52 pm
.500 ball vs .500 teams
Putter
on August 25, 2009 at 9:54 pm
wow, Infante looked good tonight
Stu
on August 25, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Stick a fork in us.
What say we give McCann a bunch of time off and severely limit the innings of Jurrjens and Hanson?
Coach (2010 or Bust)
on August 25, 2009 at 9:54 pm
O yea, Chipper Jones has no business being in the line up.
Putter
on August 25, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Prado too.
Brian J.
on August 25, 2009 at 9:55 pm
And that’s it. Tune in tomorrow when hopefully the offense won’t suck *quite* so hard.
Randy
on August 25, 2009 at 9:55 pm
That was disgusting. By the way I want to put ACHE on my all time bottom five list.
urlhix
on August 25, 2009 at 9:55 pm
What a stupid loss.
c. shorter
on August 25, 2009 at 9:57 pm
This team can’t do diddly poo offensively…
Playoffs?!!?!
JoeCraigMcMurtry
on August 25, 2009 at 10:00 pm
I agree with Stu. No reason not to call up Hudson and either go to a straight six man rotation or juggle the rotation to let him alternately spell Hanson and JJ.
Use code “Journal” for a 5% discount.
lets start of the thread with a little speed, this guy predicts Usain Bolt’s 40 time would be 3.73 sec
http://sports.yahoo.com/fantasy/blog/roto_arcade/post/Usain-Bolt-would-run-the-40-in-WHAT-?urn=fantasy,184570
here’s also hoping that we dont hit any HR’s and kill any rallies tonight!
Least favorite Braves
Danny Frisella
Albie Lopez
Mark Redmond
Corky Miller
Dan Kolb
Len Barker
Reitsma? Lockhart?
Cox worked Reitsma to death (not unlike Boyer and now possibly Gonzalez) and he had a measure of success until his last year. I wasn’t following the Braves too closely when Lockhart was around.
Wickman? Hampton? Jeffy?
Wickman was pretty good for the most part.
I don’t know how John Rocker isn’t in everybody’s least favorite lists.
I’ll give it a go:
Current
1)Chipper
2)McCann
3)Jurrjens
4)David Ross (don’t know why…just like him)
5)Gonzalez
Note that this would be an active roster list, as Hudson would probably be No. 2 if he were active.
For all-time, I’m gonna go with ones I saw play:
1)Javy Lopez
2)Chipper
3)Smoltz
4)Maddux
5)Brian Jordan (and yes…I am basically pretending his comeback early this decade didn’t happen because I liked him so much late in the last one)
Least favorite:
1)John Rocker (see above)
2)Jeff Francoeur
3)Danny Kolb
4)Deion Sanders
5)Kenny Lofton
The first three on the list were basically the only three I could think of that I would have booed while they were still on the team. Deion is really kind of a hindsight one, but I’m still including him. And Lofton I never really liked, but I supported him while he was on the team. He immediately left and went back to Cleveland though, making it very easy for me.
Wickman makes me thing of a Golden Corral buffet–barf.
From the previous thread:
Least favorite:
1. Keith Lockart
2. Lonnie Smith(’91 was unexcuseable)
3. Mark Lemke(sorry)
How can anyone hate the Lemmer? As a player, that is. His ’91 WS should get him a lifetime pass. And nobody turned the deuce better.
Yeah, can’t hate the Lemmer. Scrappy little guy. (but let me say this…having heard his voice on my computer when I play a game from MLB, God his voice is atrocious…sorry, he sucks as a radio guy).
Yes, John Rocker was an ignoramus, but as a player, he had a measure of success.
My problem and enduring hatred of Keith Lockhart is because he always sucked and yet it SEEMED like he played for us for 17 years (when it reality it was like 5 or 6?).
Watching Keith Lockhart in a Braves uniform felt like one of those extended stays in a hospital. You think they’re going to release you one day and then here comes another nurse with a needle and she’s only changing your IV.
Oh – happy birthday, ububba. Hope we beat a team we’re supposed to beat as a little present for you.
Medlen has been pitching very well, but he sits and watches games for a week at a time. I think Bobby has to find a way to use him. He could be used in later innings to take some pressure off Moylan and Gonzalez. Otherwise their arms are going to fall off.
And nobody turned the deuce better.
Hey – that’s just a rumor. No need to go around repeating it.
Don’t know if anyone’s mentioned this yet, but Schafer is scheduled to have surgery on his wrist.
http://tinyurl.com/l44nj4
@14, does that mean anything, or does it just sound dirty?
I am guessing “Nobody turned the deuce better” probably also applies to say…Paris Hilton?
I’m not familiar with this euphimism. But I bet Dix is laughing himself sick.
Now, if you had said some like ‘fisting one in the hole’…
More likely Najeh Davenport.
There have long been rumors that Lemke’s gay, but I’m avoiding trying to imagine what “turning the deuce” means in that context.
All time favorite Braves
1) Ozzie Virgil (hey I was 8 and he was a catcher)
2) Javy Lopez
3) Chipper (and rising)
4) McCann (and rising)
5) Greg Maddux
All time least favorite Braves
1) Dan Kolb
2) Adam LaGross
3) Micheal Tucker
4) Reggie Sanders
5) Chris Woodward
Guys, let’s drop the deuce.
Happy birthday, Ububba. Chimay’s on me the next time I’m in NYC or you’re in our nation’s capital.
My fave current Braves:
Chipper
McCann
Jurrjens
Vazquez
Diaz
(Honorable mention: Martin Prado)
All time:
Hank Aaron (never saw him play, but he was my hero growing up; I nearly wore out my paperback of “I Had a Hammer”)
Glavine
Maddux
Smoltz
Andruw
And, yes, there’ll always be a light on in my heart for Skip Caray. The only time I ever got to hear Ernie Johnson Sr. was on the season recap videos they used to send to season ticket holders, so Skip will always be the play-by-play guy of my childhood. I only wish I was older at the time so I could remember him better now.
Jorgbacca:
If LaRoche keeps hitting the way he’s been since rejoining the team, you might have to adjust his ranking on your “least favorite” list.
Least Favs:
1. Brett Boone
2. Jeffy
3. Keith Lockhart
4. Dank Lob
5. Wickman
* I would put Deion, but he gets a pass for the McCarver incident.
All get the most out of just a little talent list:
Hubbard
Milan – don’t know how that guy didn’t de nut himself when he swung the bat. He choked up nearly to the label. Besides you gotta like a guy named Felix.
Lemke
Greg Olsen – the catcher.
Bruce Benedict
Ralph Garr – no power, couldn’t field, and a strike zone that makes Diaz look selective but dang he could hit. And run like the dickens.
My all time list is pretty much like everyone elses but I’m going to throw out one of mine thats not. Steve Avery. I really thought during that very short period he was great that he was going to be the best of the then big 4. And Darrel Evans too.
My wife seems to only remember one Brave. Zane Smith. To this day she’ll ask if he is still playing. Her comment ‘If I made that much money I sure would have something done that mouth. That is one ugly man.’
Jason C – Brett Boone – good choice. What a bag of loser rocks that idiot was for us.
I second the notion that considering what LaRoche is doing right now, no one should have Adam on their least favorite and I was a big Adam basher back in the day.
Thanks for the well wishes—Hank (from the previous thread), you’re scaring me. 😉
I could also never hate Pascual Perez because his getting lost in Atlanta near the stadium is one of my all time favorite Brave stories.
Pete Falcone…he was terrible but I liked him because he looked like a bad mofo on the mound. He just wasn’t any good.
Adam LaGross will have to do more than play decent/well in August/September when we’re way behind in the division to lose the distinction of my second most hated Brave in my lifetime.
Well, FWIW, he’s been playing a little better than “decent/well” since we got him back. And “LaGross” doesn’t even make sense.
Braves lineup: Infante 8, Prado 4, Chipper 5, McCann 2, Anderson 7, Escobar 6, LaRoche 3, Diaz 9, Jurrjens 1
Good to see Prado again. Even Ganderson. Would really like McClouth to get back out there soon.
No love for Rafael Belliard?
My brother was a huge Dion James fan back in the day. (Probably had something to do with catching a foul ball that he hit).
Dion had that one great year when we were so bad.
BTW, how ’bout them Georgia Little Leaguers so far?
Fave five:
1) Chipper
2) Smoltz
3) Maddux
4) Pimpbot 16
5) Cant pick one, Avery/Justice/Glavine/Klesko/Javy
Least fave five:
1) Charlie Leibrandt (fair or not, I don’t care)
2) Fat Albie
3) Blob Wickman
4 tie) Hampton/Out Machine/Lofton
5) Jason Shiell’s wife
What did Lofton do? .333/.409/.428/.837 OPS+119 is a damn good number for a CF. He was an AS, and even got a couple of MVP points.
Farnsworth
Devine
I’ll never forgive either of these clowns, for losing the longest game in mlb playoff history.
http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/2005/B10090HOU2005.htm
36 – it’s more of the fact that he was a complete tool. One of the few guys that Bobby has ever ripped publicly for not being able to play for him.
I remember that day all too well.
Lofton, was and is a jackass
I liked Dion James as a kid. Of course, I also liked Andres Thomas. In my defense, I was young and I thought his batting stance was cool.
All time faves:
1. Dale Murphy
2. Smoltz
3. Chipper (maybe?)
4. Glavine?
5. Maddux?
1 and 2 are easy. The lines drawn between anyone else are all pretty fuzzy.
Favorites
Chipper
Andruw
Javi Lopez
Smoltz
Maddux
Least
Reitsma
Corky Miller
Jeff Francoeur
Jordan Schafer (has plenty of time to redeem himself of course)
Glavine
I will always hate Darren Bragg the most. Not only did he suck, but he had a creepy inner forearm tattoo.
@37 – I was halfway watching that in the delivery room while my daughter was being born. Thank god there was something to distract me.
Haha, looking at that boxscore, I had completely forgotten about Jim Brower. Man, what a random pitcher.
Looking through the 2005 roster, there were a lot of random relievers. Foster, Bernero, Jorge Vazquez, Greisinger, Matt Childers, Frank Brooks, etc.
Javy was on the juice, you know that right?
I suspect every team every year has a lot of random relievers. Manny Acosta? Jeff Bennett?
Top 5 Current:
McCann
Chipper
Diaz
Escobar
Jurrjens
Top 5 Ever:
Maddux (smartest ballplayer I have ever seen)
Smoltz (was #1 until this offseason)
Murphy
Chipper
Glavine
Bottom 5:
Frenchy (dumbest ballplayer I have ever seen)
Corky
KrotchRocket
Tex (never seemed like he belonged)
Rietsma
Bottom 1:
Milwaukee’s Worst
Darren Bragg was not very good but he threw me a ball that he caught for the final out of a game that Smoltz saved. His batting intro music was also Sympathy for the Devil so he had that going for him. Which is nice.
My current favorites are
1. Diaz
2. Hanson
3. Medlen
4. Vazquez
5. Prado
There is no one on the current roster that I particularly dislike but my all time list would go something like this.
1. Cox
no explanation necessary
distant 2nd. Rocker
A constant reminder of how embarrasing it can be to be a Braves fan. Also sucked. I cant stand wild pitchers.
3. Mike Hampton
Threw one pitch and couldn’t locate it particularly well. It sucked that he was hurt all the time but I can’t hold that against the guy. I just hated the way he pitched.
happy birthday ububba
Ok, that “broom” conversation was just dumb!
Did anyone else think the look on Jair’s face after watching ache loaf over to that ball was WTF?
I already listed my worst 5 and I’ll stick by it,but I have to admit Farnsworth would have been a pretty good pick. My favorite line this preseason was when the Royals signed Farnsworth they said they wanted to not have Soria pitch so much, one Royals writer said, “This move assures that Soria won’t pitch as much, because with Farnsworth pitching the 8th, Soria will never have a game to save in the 9th.
#54 – yep, because Loaf quit on the play and the ball landed within two feet from him
I thought that ball was catchable with a little better effort!
Oh, damn I didn’t even realize Latos was on the mound for the Padres. I sure hope the Braves can look a little less lost compared to the last time.
10 pitches, 3 outs. Not yet at least.
Looks like we came to play!
Taking in the M-Braves tonight in Chattanooga.
Been looking forward to seeing them all year and Freeman’s DLed and Heyward’s out of the lineup.
Did see Hicks HR in the first.
Loaf makes Matt Diaz look like an all-star on defense.
1-0 Padres, yeaaaaaaa! I’m kidding, sarcastically.
They have one freaking hitter, and you let him homer.
48,
Isn’t Acosta a young, promising prospect? Otherwise, I agree with the statement. There’s so much instability in bullpens across baseball.
Got a little help from the ump on that one.
Acosta’s 28.
If we keep hitting the ball this hard, something has to fall eventually.
Rush? Pete Orr isn’t on the roster anymore, right?
Shee-ite moslem. These are the scrubbiest scrubs that ever scrubbed, and we’re getting no-hit AND losing? At home? Some nights this team really doesn’t show up, and that’s why we are where we are.
So the Fat Tub of Goo didn’t make anybody’s list? Either one?
Let’s give it up for a guy who have us one and a half good years and gave us a lot of laughs – Terry Forster.
Hey, hey Grampa! Breakin’ up the perfecto!
Here we go again with the 1st game of a series again….
Good grief. Strike out the freakin’ side whydoncha.
I said take 2/3 from the mets, take 2/3 from the Marlins, sweep the Padres and then see where you are. Make no mistake, we must sweep. If we lose and the Rockies win tonight we would be 5 1/2 games out and little chance to make the playoffs.
just have to win series
Matt Latos has a one hitter going through five innings with four K’s and no walks.
Jurrjens is pitching OK but like ya’ll said, it is the first game of the series…..Yikes!
1 ER thru six is slightly better than OK.
Not with the way the Rockies are playing. They might actually win the west and leave the Dodgers to the wildcard. You have to sweep teams like the Padres.
If we lose and the Rockies win tonight we would be 5 1/2 games out and little chance to make the playoffs.
It almost doesn’t matter at this point, just keep Jurrjens and Hanson healthy. The Rockies are too good. That win last night for them was pretty magical. If you want to feel old, the Rockies just called up Eric Young Jr. to the majors.
Exactly Marc….it’s no winning the series nonsense now. They need to sweep the Padres.
Wow – if it keeps on like this Jurrjens should be furious.
you cant play thinking about sweeping teams. Its too difficult no matter who they are. If the Braves win every series from here on out they will be 22 games above .500. 92-70 is going to get themselves a very good shot at catching some teams an will most likely get themselves into the playoffs. That has to be their goal, win series
hey, heres an idea lets get an extra base hit
Chipper last 9 games (1-23 w/ 9k’s) and that was an infield hit
Wow, Jim just congratulated a fan on interfering with a ball in play.
Chipper looks done.
I’d like to formally request a couple of runs, please. Thanks.
I usually try not to judge people on their tattoo’s, but that shit on Latos’s forearms screams, “I’m a douchebag”
gaaah. I was going to not drink tonight, but this is driving me to it.
There’s no way to tell if Chipper is done or not. He’s in a slump – not uncommon for him throughout his (or anyone’s) career. It’s just that when players get Chipper’s age, people want to say he’s done everytime he goes through a slump. Eventually he will lose and it may be now, but I think he’s got at least another solid year or two.
Happy birthday, ububba. You too, Remy, in case I miss you on Thursday.
Mine’s Friday. I’m turning 40 and trying to ignore it 🙁
A few runs this game would be a nice early present, though.
Typical 2000s era Atlanta Braves. Beat the good teams and look like Little Leaguers against the bad ones.
Is Joe paid by the “Ric Flair” reference?
Woo.
This is pathetic.
MY favorite ric flair quote…
“Keep your mouth shut when I’m talking! (addressing some kid in the crowd) I will take your mother home and make a woman out of her kid you keep your mouth shut…. I’m talking to you kid! I’ma make your mother go Woo Woo Woo.”
He’d be way richer if he were paid everytime he fetishized “going the other way”.
It’s worked for Lemke…
Braves win 3-1 mark it down
WHY?!?!?! Somebody needs to take Norton out.
edit: he has shown a propensity for walks, but still, holy crap! We needed a hit, which norton gave us a 10% chance of getting from that side of the plate.
Rally? Cue Nort-out.
Oh, God not Norton. You know he’s up there looking to take a walk.
Walking Norton is asking for it.
Norton bailed out by the pitcher again.
Sometimes, I hate it when batting the Emperor works; it just encourages Cox to let him keep playing.
Norton got his walk 🙂
I’m no fan of Norton, but the 1-4 hitters are 0-12 and everyone’s bashing the pinch hitter for drawing a walk?
A rally killing HR would be ok here.
I’m holding you to that Jon K.!
Come on Prado.
Prado has to deliver or this game is likely over.
Argh.
Edit: ARRRRGGGGGH!!!!
Sickening.
I hate this team.
Don’t mean to bash Norton – it’s Bobby who bothers me. Regardless of the result, it was a dumb idea to send him out there.
Truly pathetic. We’re an inning away from having this fan officially give up on the season.
JJ throwing a 5 hitter and losing!?
All I’m saying about Norton is that it seems every time he comes up late in a game he walks on pitches that aren’t even close which is strange considering he sucks. It’s now happened so much I think he goes up there actively hoping he doesn’t have to use his bat. I’m not saying he should be up there swinging at balls, obviously not, I just find the whole situation strange and amusing.
Wow is all I can say.
well, i guess the good thing is we will get to see the closer in the 9th so 3 straight righty/lefty matchups.
If this keeps up, the recap should be brief.
prediction: we win it in the 9th and ride this win all the way to the wild card. we’ve had plenty of bad predictions of late. lets try something different.
We’ve won the last 10 games I’ve smoked weed while watching and I’m packing a bowl….
I appreciate your selflessness, Marc.
that’s something to be proud of marc. thank you for weeding us through to victory.
I’ve heard that a walk is as good as a hit.
FWIW, Pirates are ahead late….by 1.
We’ve been hitting at-em balls all game.
Has anyone ever called in to the Chip Caray show and asked him to explain the infield fly rule?
let it hit you ACHE!
WTF?
now the best player to have up in this situation is at the plate. lets do it esco!
YOUR ALL WELCOME
Rochy!!!
ADAM1!!!!!!!
ROACH!
roach heroics
God protects children, fools, and the Atlanta Braves.
Get high as a fucking kite, Marc.
Ain’t over yet, but yeah, have a little extra, Marc, just to be sure.
WTF was that Diaz??
A bunt? What?
Bunt grounds out? BUNT GROUNDS OUT??!!?
Maybe I’m to high because I think I just saw Matt Diaz, who is 8 for his last 9, bunt.
What a game.
Matt Diaz is addicted to the bunt like Lemke is to the ____.
@139 that was baseball…and would have been brilliant if it is a foot and a half to the left.
Capps is a terrible closer…but he does close for the Pirates.
Assuming that the bunt was on from the bench, Bobby’s obsession with seeing Diaz bend over to take it is both disturbing and completely inexplicable. I don’t have any stats, but it definitely seems like I’ve heard “Diaz bunts it” in the last month more than anyone else.
Oh don’t worry guys.
It wasn’t a bad idea.
Lockdown time.
@147
2nd baseman playing up the middle in the grass. 1st baseman playing behind the bag, almost in the grass. yes, a bunt to hit was stupid. i understand the “bunt is stupid” argument but youre reaching. it wasnt a bad play, and it wasnt called from the bench. blame bobby for when he’s wrong. it happens enough.
Diaz’s play wasn’t that bad. It basically comes down to what’s greater, his chance of getting a hit or his chance of pushing that bunt farther to the left. The bunt is the mathematically correct choice, but Diaz has been soooo hot I would have liked for him to swing.
Why is this team so obsessed with bunting?
Bunting.
Pirates just beat Phillies
And Lidge blows another one….
This is where Chipper busts out of his slump…or they walk him…
Dammit Don! It’s not in the hole if a fielder is right there. Don has been off tonight.
@152:
I can see where some might be obsessed with that.
I guess this will have to be where Ross busts out of his slump.
How does Prado look at the plate? His boxscore is horrible…
Be a hero Ross
can you believe that, the phillies lost to the pirates… i have a good friend who is a die-hard pirates fan
Believe it or not I was listening to the Braves call in show a few days ago on a rain delay. An older man who said he played with Babe Ruth called in and gave his philosophy on the team. His major gripe with Atlanta was that they don’t bunt enough. I almost lost it on that comment.
I’m not greedy, I’ll take a wild pitch walk off.
And now it’s up to ACHE.
Edit: How about a walk-off walk?
The Babe had 113 sacrifice hits in his career. 100 of them after he was a pitcher.
Well, we’ll either win it or go to the 11th here.
And we don’t win it, so onward.
Mac, what do you mean by sacrifice hits? Is this mostly sac flys or bunts?
Sacrifice hits are bunts. Sac flies weren’t tracked during Ruth’s career.
Someone really wants to win tonight
win this game plz
Who plays left field if Yunel gets ejected, Medlen? Vazquez?
Soriano was phenomenal right there.
I think this would be a fine time for one of those Adam LaRoche home runs I’ve been hearing so much about
I think this would be a fine time for one of those Matt Diaz home runs that happens once every few years
4 straight HBPs too much to ask for?
So, this game goes on.
Today is Dooley Womack’s birthday.
Little surprising to see Soriano pulled, given how strong he was in the 11th.
Edit: Yeah… Nice call, Bobby.
@ 149
I didn’t like it because Diaz doesn’t strike me as a great (or even good) bunter and he’s not exceptionally fast either. I would rather him just take his swings there.
Also: I never said anything about Bobby…
Why did Soriano have to come out?
The Padres announcers just said that Garret Anderson can turn a single into a double better than anyone in the league.
when he’s playing left field, yea…
I love the Braves…but I am certainly hating the first game of every damn series we play.
Sheesh, boys…act like we’ve got something to play for (except you Matt Diaz and Jair Sweet J)
Come on DP…stick it in the Padres
eckstein. great. this team is such a tease.
Goddman you, scrappy Eckstein. And I mean resembling scrap.
Sufferin succotash
I HATE EFFING DAVID ECKSTAIN.
I mean c’mon…anoying gnat, a Gator, a Cardinal…what’s not to hate about this little tool? ugggg.
I’ll be happy when Eckstein retires, he really pisses me off.
I hate intentional walks to load the bases.
I’m not sure if you were aware of this but he is small and white which means it’s only by a heroic display of American Spirit that he’s good at baseball.
It worked, but I still hate an intentional walk to load the bases – especially with two outs. Getting the count to 3-2 was too close for comfort.
No matter the outcome of this contest, this is why our Braves will more than likely miss the playoffs.
Our Braves are beating themselves.
Colorado up 3-2 over the NL wild card-leading Dodgers
The 0-10 can only mean Infante and Prado are due. I hope.
The Dooley Womack?
.500 ball vs .500 teams
wow, Infante looked good tonight
Stick a fork in us.
What say we give McCann a bunch of time off and severely limit the innings of Jurrjens and Hanson?
O yea, Chipper Jones has no business being in the line up.
Prado too.
And that’s it. Tune in tomorrow when hopefully the offense won’t suck *quite* so hard.
That was disgusting. By the way I want to put ACHE on my all time bottom five list.
What a stupid loss.
This team can’t do diddly poo offensively…
Playoffs?!!?!
I agree with Stu. No reason not to call up Hudson and either go to a straight six man rotation or juggle the rotation to let him alternately spell Hanson and JJ.
Recapped.