What’s the point of having to have a back-up SS on your roster if you’re just going to play him in a seemingly random position every day?
Ron E.
on August 22, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Ugh. What a terrible lineup. Gorecki has shown no ability to hit major league pitching. He needs to be sent down and Jones or Heyward (preferably) called up. Did I miss an injury to Church?
CourtneyC
on August 22, 2009 at 4:08 pm
I like LaRoche in the cleanup hole. He is our best cleanup hitter besides McCann.
spike (back in the ATL)
on August 22, 2009 at 4:10 pm
I have heard the “HR as rally killer” idea since at least the mid 80’s – I thought it was just one of those CW things.
Coach (2010 or Bust)
on August 22, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Wow, four bats in the lineup who would normally be on the bench or in the minors.
I’m gonna rent a movie tonight.
Jeff K
on August 22, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Mraver, from the last thread, no idea where you came up with a definition of “rally” that excludes 5 HRs. Defined as you do, it does become a matter of semantics — with a rally meaning any unbroken series of hits excluding HRs. I guess Frenchy would agree with you, if he understands what “semantics” means.
Johnny
on August 22, 2009 at 5:39 pm
I’m going to cut Frenchy some slack. I think he was being sarcastic.
Weldon
on August 22, 2009 at 5:48 pm
As a farmer who owns cows stricken with brucellosis, I find that song highly offensive.
cliff
on August 22, 2009 at 5:56 pm
And since this lineup is a stupid use of resources in the lineup, then Wren told Bobby to do it because Bobby isn’t resonsible for anything stupid.
IF Church is hurt (more than just “ailing”) then maybe playing Infante for him makes sense. Otherwise, you are reverse to the platoon advantage and deficient in defense. A double dumdum.
Except that here is where Wren has missed one. When ACHE started aching, they needed another real outfielder (if they shouldn’t have gone ahead and brought up Heyward when McLouth got dl’d.)
And why couldn’t this be the opportunity for KJ to re-try left? Somebody is going to be out of position. KJ has played left at ML level and pretty well. IF he can again show he can play left, his value to the team is greater for next year. Perfect opportunity to find out.
However, after tomorrow we are off Monday. So the stupid decision to not rest McCann against either of the Mets lefthanders, Perez or Santana, now means that Ross is playing against a righthander, which on 3 year moving averages, costs us 200 ops points. Earlier in the week, it would have cost nothing, as Ross is actually a better offensive player against lefties.
Bobby, plan your rest for McCann around pitcher handedness. You used to know how to do this when you had Berryhill. Do you remember Berryhill?
ugalaw
on August 22, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Nice play by Infante. Old Man Anderson would still be chasing that one.
I’d rather have this configuration than anything involving Chip, Frank.
Mike N.
on August 22, 2009 at 6:33 pm
I have heard Joe Simpson call bloops a Ric Flair waaaay too many times this year.
Frank
on August 22, 2009 at 6:34 pm
maybe this lineup’s not so bad after all
@23–agreed–but would rather have Boog over Gant
Diaz ends the inning with a Yunel
Nathan
on August 22, 2009 at 6:36 pm
So Diaz just took off, even though it was gonna get caught, or what? All I have is gameday’s “Ross flies into a double-play, left-fielder to first-baseman, Diaz out at first.”
This is a Peachtree broadcast, so no Boog no matter what. This is about the best we can hope for.
joelk
on August 22, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Matt Diaz “a hittin fool!
Frank
on August 22, 2009 at 7:14 pm
and a baserunning fool? (I missed all but the end of the play)
Nathan
on August 22, 2009 at 7:23 pm
First hit of the game for the Marlins, on what looks (on Gameday) to have been a good pitch. I’m kind of glad; lots of people seem to get screwed up by throwing a no-hitter early in their career. Tommy can just bear down and throw strikes now.
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“‘Sweet Home Alabama’/Play that dead band’s song”
From last thread — Larry and Balki… awesome. Still laughing.
Turn them speakers up full blast, play it all night long.
From the last thread:
Wasn’t it Joe Morgan who started this (homers kill rallies) a couple of years ago? Gotta be Joe. It’s Morgan level stupid.
It was Tim McCarver.
Start an inning with a homerun and you’re more likely to score runs…
Oh lord. Per DOB:
What’s the point of having to have a back-up SS on your roster if you’re just going to play him in a seemingly random position every day?
Ugh. What a terrible lineup. Gorecki has shown no ability to hit major league pitching. He needs to be sent down and Jones or Heyward (preferably) called up. Did I miss an injury to Church?
I like LaRoche in the cleanup hole. He is our best cleanup hitter besides McCann.
I have heard the “HR as rally killer” idea since at least the mid 80’s – I thought it was just one of those CW things.
Wow, four bats in the lineup who would normally be on the bench or in the minors.
I’m gonna rent a movie tonight.
Mraver, from the last thread, no idea where you came up with a definition of “rally” that excludes 5 HRs. Defined as you do, it does become a matter of semantics — with a rally meaning any unbroken series of hits excluding HRs. I guess Frenchy would agree with you, if he understands what “semantics” means.
I’m going to cut Frenchy some slack. I think he was being sarcastic.
As a farmer who owns cows stricken with brucellosis, I find that song highly offensive.
And since this lineup is a stupid use of resources in the lineup, then Wren told Bobby to do it because Bobby isn’t resonsible for anything stupid.
IF Church is hurt (more than just “ailing”) then maybe playing Infante for him makes sense. Otherwise, you are reverse to the platoon advantage and deficient in defense. A double dumdum.
Except that here is where Wren has missed one. When ACHE started aching, they needed another real outfielder (if they shouldn’t have gone ahead and brought up Heyward when McLouth got dl’d.)
And why couldn’t this be the opportunity for KJ to re-try left? Somebody is going to be out of position. KJ has played left at ML level and pretty well. IF he can again show he can play left, his value to the team is greater for next year. Perfect opportunity to find out.
However, after tomorrow we are off Monday. So the stupid decision to not rest McCann against either of the Mets lefthanders, Perez or Santana, now means that Ross is playing against a righthander, which on 3 year moving averages, costs us 200 ops points. Earlier in the week, it would have cost nothing, as Ross is actually a better offensive player against lefties.
Bobby, plan your rest for McCann around pitcher handedness. You used to know how to do this when you had Berryhill. Do you remember Berryhill?
Nice play by Infante. Old Man Anderson would still be chasing that one.
Ron Gant on top of the putrid lineup. Ick.
So far, so good for Infante.
Let’s not kill this rally with a HR, Esco.
You idiot, you killed it!
Rally-killing bastard.
Jeez, Escobar, we had a great rally going there.
Edit: Yeah, I’m obviously not nearly in time.
I’d rather have this configuration than anything involving Chip, Frank.
I have heard Joe Simpson call bloops a Ric Flair waaaay too many times this year.
maybe this lineup’s not so bad after all
@23–agreed–but would rather have Boog over Gant
Diaz ends the inning with a Yunel
So Diaz just took off, even though it was gonna get caught, or what? All I have is gameday’s “Ross flies into a double-play, left-fielder to first-baseman, Diaz out at first.”
Yeah, maybe not so putrid.
Nice way to get Tommy some room to work.
EDIT: It was a hit-and-run line drive to LF. Diaz didn’t pick up the ball very well & they just got him going back to first.
Filthy Hanson hook on Commander Cody.
Raise your hand if you wish Tom Glavine was out there throwing soft toss instead of Hanson.
This is a Peachtree broadcast, so no Boog no matter what. This is about the best we can hope for.
Matt Diaz “a hittin fool!
and a baserunning fool? (I missed all but the end of the play)
First hit of the game for the Marlins, on what looks (on Gameday) to have been a good pitch. I’m kind of glad; lots of people seem to get screwed up by throwing a no-hitter early in their career. Tommy can just bear down and throw strikes now.
Wes Freaking Helms…
Eh. This is less happy.
might be good to wake the offense from hibernation mode
So the Fish just have some guy hanging around with an ERA less than one available to pitch long relief?
That’s some impressive pitching depth.
That last swing by Chipper makes me wonder if he is hurt.
No, Chipper’s swings aren’t looking too good. Fortunately, he still understands the strike zone.
EDIT: It’s the go-go Braves tonight.
Ross hasn’t hit much lately. If I didn’t know better I would say it’s hard to keep your stroke when you only play twice a month.
Or maybe he’s not really as good of a hitter as he looked earlier this season, which is why he isn’t a regular somewhere.
I’d sure like to have a 2-run lead the next time Hanley hits.
BTW, Giants bopping the Rockies early, 6-1.
Vasquez as a pinch bunter. Love that move. Atta boy Bobby.
The entirety of the bench is likely Norton and McCann, sending Norton up wasn’t exactly a guarantee for miracles.
neither pitch to roach looked like a strike to me…
They really should put Prado on the DL.
Just tuned in… ugh. And agreed on Prado–why do they wait a week on these guys? I feel like the Braves have played with a short bench all year.
Have they ever figured out what, other than exertional headaches, is wrong with him?
I hope Gonzo gets the same strike zone that Pinto had. Doesn’t seem so–ball 2 looked a lot like strike 3 to LaRoach.
Uh, Ron… you just said “ass deep” rather than “as deep”.
Hanley will let us know if Soriano has his stuff back…
Nice work, Gonzo.
Gah, stop bunting.
Not in love with that bunt call though.
Not crazy about it either, but maybe it’ll work out for us. At least Diaz got it down.
Yeah but he’s setting the table for Ross and Gorecki…
I liked not hitting McCann for Ross (they would have just walked him), Gorecki needs to keep the inning alive…
…which he did not.
Go get ‘um Sori.
Adam,
Right, that’s why I don’t wanna bunt there. Diaz is the best hitter we’ll send up until the lineup turns over.
But it’s not like those 2 guys have never gotten a single either.
Alright, Mr. Soriano. It’s up to you.
Nice.
Hanson’s 9-2. Looks like Happ’s gonna make it to 10-2 tonight, too.
Recapped.