95 thoughts on “Game Thread: May 15, Braves at Nots”

  1. I don’t see a video on youtube, but “It’ll Be the Same Without You” by the Mendoza Line (!) would be perfect:

    the book on you is that you lack the chin
    and at best your legs are fragile and thin
    but you display the heart of a champion
    but too often it’s to your detriment

    so i hear you want to go out on your own
    well, there’s no one here to stop you
    rest assured someone will quickly take your place
    and it’ll be the same without you

  2. By the way, this news is awesome.

    Nut graf: “The Atlanta Braves do not anticipate John Smoltz will miss his next start Saturday in Boston opposite Daisuke Matsuzaka after the veteran right-hander dislocated his right pinky finger in Monday’s loss to the Nationals.”

  3. Stark on ESPN Insider has something up that MLB will have lots of extra “off” days during Division and LC Series this year. Effectively, almost nobody will have to use a fourth starter to keep the top three on regular rest. Aso, the extra days will make the top (2 by Stark, 3 by me) relievers the only important ones.

    This shows JS on top of things. If you imagine Hampton rounding into form in September, then the post season run was set. Now, we are just going to have to get Chucky to hold em hard.

    This further underscores the need to find one or more bats from somewhere.

  4. From the last thread, I too, laud the return of Wickman, but for slightly more Machiavellian reasons. It gives Bobby his patented Closer(tm) to use in the ninth, and gives the two arguably better pitchers in the Ace Reliever role in the 7th/8th. It’s a shame that only Cox/Shuerholz’ risk aversion has backed them into a great relief usage pattern, but hey, I’ll take it.

  5. I say, forget Hampton.

    Fact is, if we went into the post-season right now, I’d be pretty happy with the staff, as is.

    Of course, I’d add Salty to the post-season roster, too.

  6. Same as it ever was.
    Same as it ever was.

    MAC – Thanks for the deciation. I really feel like I made it. This tops being TBS’ “Know How Question” back on April 19th againt the Cubs.

    I’ll suggest “Don’t Look Back in Anger” by Oasis for Langerhans. Other suggestions include Bob Dylan’s “It Ain’t Me Babe,” Springsteen’s “10th Avenue Freeze Out,” Whitesnake’s “Here I Go Again,” David Bowie’s “Changes,” U2’s “I Still Haven’t Found What I’m Looking For,” and Billy Idol’s “Dancing With Myself.”

    Yeah. That’s right. Billy Idol. I don’t know why either, but it did make me laugh.

    Go Braves. Same as it ever was.

  7. I’ll also add, “Hello Goodbye” by the Beatles, and “Instant Karma!” by Lennon. I’m done thinking about it now. A Langerhans dedication doesn’t deserve this much thought.

    Enjoy the game everyone.

  8. Ok seriously. Last one, I just remebered that awesomely bad 80s song “Look Away” by Chicago or Chicago’s lead singer and I thought of poor Langy.

  9. Okay, I don’t think I’m going to be able to recap tonight, my doctor has me zonked out on goofballs. So morning recap, unless I regain full consciousness.

  10. “Song to say goodbye” by Placebo. “Won’t get fooled again” by The Who. “Goodbye cruel world” by Pink Floyd. “Walk Away” by Franz Ferdinand. “Voyager” by Daft Punk. “Too Much” by Elvis. “On the road again” by Canned Heat. (I can’t get no) Satisfaction” by The Rolling Stones.
    These are my propositions for Langershould…

  11. No Chipper again.

    Johnson
    Harris
    Renteria
    A. Jones
    McCann
    Francoeur
    Thorman
    Orr
    Hudson

  12. He’s clearly in a slump right now. Maybe somebody will bean him and get him going. We are going to need him to get hot and carry this team as he has done at times during his career.

    As to whether he’s worth 18 million or not–that’s a debate. I’m thinking yes for next year. Thereafter, probably a bit less each year for the next 3-5 years and then after than a lot less. But it’s a guess.

    And yes, he can have this miserable of a year and somebody will pay him a huge amount for the promise of a comeback season plus his still outstanding defense (even if it isn’t as good as it was a few years ago).

    Personally, I would have either signed him last year or traded him last year before he became a 10/5 man. Now that he’s a 10/5 man, he will be with the Braves until the end of the year unless we become so horrid that the stench of the clubhouse drives him off. I don’t think that will happen.

  13. Huddy with 40 pitches after 4, Gnats pitchers with 95. Cubs still lead the Mets 3 to 0, top of the 5th.

  14. I’ve been saying “$18 million” because I’m assuming that Scott Boras is going to try to get him something more than Vernon Wells got.

  15. I’ve been saying “$18 million” because I’m assuming that Scott Boras is going to try to get him something more than Vernon Wells got.

  16. I am confident that Andruw will get things straightened out and have a big year. His walks are way up, which is encouraging.

  17. Wonder if Fick still has that kitten he found @ NYM stadium and aptly named it Shea. Least we forget – Chipper copied him by naming his latest human kid – Shea. Ficking wierd.

    Nice play Thorman – when your pitcher has a No/No – you ficking get in front of the ball and stop it.

  18. That was a tough play but Thorman didn’t exactly make a very good effort to get in front of it.

  19. Fricking Langerhans.

    That low pitch count/perfect game/no-hitter/shutout thing melted down rather quickly.

  20. Good hustle peter orrsberg. I wonder if there is a correlation in Braves lockharting a guy (i.e. keeping him on the squad based upon his number). If Orrsberg were number 46 for example, i suspect he would be turfsville. Memo to prospects: Get low digit and you will get carried.

  21. Agaain, we ask, why is Orr here? Harris does everything Orr can do, plus play left field, run really fast, and hit like he gives a damn.

  22. Bobby Cox was intrigued by 5 and 1/3 innings that Mark Redman pitched at Richmond on Sunday.

  23. “Intrigued?” Groan.

    Unless the question is “Can Redman really keep his ERA in double digits all year?” I don’t know what’s left to be answered about Redman. And I don’t really want to know the answer to that question.

  24. I don’t want to be “that guy,” but I’ve followed the Braves for over 15 years and I still don’t understand the significance of Lockhart’s number.

    I know he was Pete Orr version 1.0, but what did his number do to his role in the Bigs?

    About getting rid of Orr. You can’t. I don’t think you can anyway. If you get rid of Orr you just get another Lockhart, etc. Players like Orr are what some people call “AAAA” players – they can’t be in the minors, but they can’t play everyday in the show.

    Anyone with significant talent will end up playing everyday or get traded (Betemit, DeRosa, although I could argue about “talent” and “DeRosa”).

    Players like Orr and Woodward and role players at best, although having both of them around seems worthless. I would trade one for another big bat to pinch hit.

  25. I’m still trying to figure out why Cordero is in the game. The Nats don’t have a Berry-type closer.

    Most of their closers are “The Towel.”
    Actually, most of their starters are a towel.

  26. Does seem a bit early. Maybe one more inning at the very least. He was only at 84 pitches.

  27. Gonzo didn’t looked thrilled about being pulled, but I’d rather Bobby be safe than sorry though.

  28. Don just said that we “gave up a pretty good left hander” to get Soriano…

    I wonder who he was thinking of…

  29. Gonz looked pretty shocked to see the trainer and Bobby come out, but someone had to of saw something.

    Hope it’s nothing.

  30. I like first place. Let’s stay there.

    Re: Andruw.
    Sorry, I can’t entertain the alarmist talk. Andruw’s gonna be Andruw. He’ll come around. He always does.

    As mentioned, his walks are way up (on a pace for 108—he’s never had 90 in a year) and he’s driven in a good amount of runs. Though he certainly should have more, considering the play of the guys in front of him in the order, he’s still on a pace for 116 RBI.

    And how good is Huddy right now? Only the best pitcher in the National League.

  31. if salty actually stays and works out at first, then i say we move craig wilson back to pittsburgh and at least get something for him. they liked him there and he might be the bat they need.

  32. Well, they said in the notes if Salty does stay “they’d likely have to eat the remainder of Craig Wilson’s $2 million salary.” I guess meaning we’d get rid of him. Salty is doing better bat-wise than Wilson and he’s been there less than two weeks. Wilson has been here all season.

  33. If they dealt him, I’d doubt they’d have to eat the remainder. He’s owed, I’d guess, about $1.2M or so, and since we probably wouldn’t get much for him, I’m sure we wouldn’t have to eat his salary.

  34. Salty’s been working out at first for a while now.

    It’s too bad C. Wilson has sucked as bad as he has. But you win some, you lose some.

  35. I absolutely hate that idea. Salty needs to be getting consistent ABs, and Thorman’s earned the right to be given a chance to play everyday.

  36. Agree with Stu. We may reach the point where Wilson has to be let go, but not now at the expense of Salty’s development. Gotta be more patient than that.

  37. I don’t have a problem with Salty on the big club & Wilson out of here (if he doesn’t pick it up very soon). And I don’t think it’s a huge deal if Salty gets his 200+ ABs on the Major League level this year, as opposed to tearing up the minors.

    I am in favor of helping this team win right now and I think Salty would help us. If he’s good enough to hit MLB pitching now, then he’s good enough to be on this team.

    But either way, as long as we keep winning without Salty & he’s on the roster by 31 Aug, I’m not going to sweat it. It’s a nice problem to have.

  38. Gonzalez was throwing 82-84 mph on his fastball tonight and was taken out. Apparently he doesn’t feel any pain in his elbow, but this doesn’t sound good. Hopefully Wickman will bounce back of the DL and we can rest Gonzo. Our bulpen will be fine without him, for a while at least. The important thing is to get him healthy.

  39. AJC:

    “Cox said Anthony Lerew was still scheduled to start Friday’s series opener at Boston. The Braves have discussed activating Mark Redman from the DL to make that start.”

    Redman? Lord have mercy.

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