ESPN.com – MLB – Box Score – Pirates at Braves
You don’t see many two-hour games anymore. Smoltz rebounded and was awesome, taking a no-hitter to the sixth. It was a one-hitter to two out in the eighth when he allowed a couple of singles, but got out of that. He struck out ten and walked only one man, that in the first. He even laid down a sac bunt that led to a couple of runs.
Martin Prado, up from Richmond (Cormier was sent down) started at second and leadoff, and he had a big game. In the third, he had an infield single that sent LaRoche to third, though Prado was thrown out trying to score from first on a Renteria double that made it 1-0. In the fifth, it was Prado who doubled (after Smoltz’s bunt), scoring Diaz and LaRoche. That was pretty much it. Wickman pitched the ninth, giving up a hit but coming right back to get the third out.
I’ve found that these well-pitched games are hard to do much of a recap on. Smoltz was great, what can I say?
1st post awesome!!!
2nd post a little less better!
9 SAVES IN A ROW BY WICKMAN!
GREAT PITCHING BY SMOLTZ!!!
I’M GONNA GO OUTSIDE AND RUN LAPS!!!!
4th post…damn skippy!
Still waiting for your insanely big CFF preview 4-Seam…
I’m back, I ran 5. I feel a little less pumped.
I’m working on takeaway/giveaway stats….
It’s hard to compose and make it readable.
I had to find a way to straighten out everything.
Don’t forget the DVOA stats…
I’d do a big CFB preview…but I lack the intelect..and writing ability…
The Braves schedule looks very favorable for the rest of the season…but then again, the entire NL is “favorable” right now. Still, it would be nice to earn the right to take the AL-administered beating in the World Series.
That’s kind of all a NLCS championship is: the right to get beaten by an AL team. Of course, “anything can happen in the playoffs,” but come on… the AL is gonna smoke the NL like nobody’s business.
Whoooo!! Braves win, Braves win…..
Ronnie James Dio, best handle ever. I’m a big fan. Holy Diver and Heaven and Hell (with Black Sabbath) still get regular rotation around the ol’ homestead. Best male vocalist under 5 feet tall.
But yeah, we have an easy enough schedule the rest of the way. And now that we have a true closer (WICKMANIA!!!!!!!!) I have a reason to keep tuning in. Which I would anyway, but you know what I’m sayin’…..
/Been down too long by the midnight sea.
I cracked up at some of 4 Seam’s Wickman posts. That dude’s on a WICKMANIA high.
I like it though. 😀
I am getting a good feeling
Took Wickman only about a month to overtake Reitsma to be the team leader in saves…should have, could have, might have…damn you JS!!!
Braves are 3.5 GB of 2nd in the NL Wild Card. 5.5 back of Reds.
Gibbons got in a fight with Ted Lilly during tonight’s game. Idiot.
How about that Ted Lilly/John Gibbons altercation? I guess giving up 7 runs in relief makes one rather testy. Not that Gibbons isn’t an a**, as well.
OK, I know this probably belongs on the UF preview thread, but no one will read it. Whoever says Florida is overrated this year is crazy. This ESPN Championship Series is basically picking Florida to lose EVERY game this year, apparently. It’s kind of sickening…
I’m enjoying it, although I wonder who they have winning the AU/USC semifinal.
we have 4 guys that will probably hit 30 homeruns. i hope that mccann or chipper could power up the last 35 and get there as well. 5 guys with 30 + in one lineup is impressive. i just hope to god we get some starting pitching, a leadoff hitter, and keep wickman and baez for the upcoming season. with the emergence of matt diaz as a left field option, where would we put a leadoff hitter? we do need speed. with some offseason acquisitions and tuneups, we could be pretty damned good next year. langerhans, reitsma, orr, pratt, yates, and jordan all need to go. what will become of kelly johnson? could he be valuable trade bait? will giles be a brave next year? will laroche be a brave next year, or will they talk chipper into trying first? lot of fun stuff to debate over the winter.
If you’re not including Chipper, who’s the fourth guy who’ll hit 40? I can think of Andruw, Francoeur, LaRoche…
What’s up with Gibbons..
First with Hillenbrand, now with Lilly..
sorrry, my homerun thought doesnt quite make sense. i was up past my bedtime.
Hey Guys, check out our Roster…we have 5 middle infielders! HA!
Rehab update: Kyle Davies appears ready to come off the disabled list, but the Braves may wait until the rosters expand in September before activating the 22-year-old right-hander, who had his right groin surgically repaired in May.
Davies limited Triple-A Louisville to one earned run and three hits while throwing 85 pitches in seven innings for Richmond on Monday night. While completing seven innings for Double-A Mississippi last Wednesday, he allowed two earned runs and four hits. Of his five rehab starts, these are the only two that have exceeded three innings.
It looks as if we will be platooning at 2nd until Giles is healthy. Prado aganst lefties and Orr against righties.
At his current pace, Francoeur will fall two at-bats shy of the club record Marquis Grissom set in 1996, when he registered 671.
Smoltzie…”All in all, I’m most proud of trying to rebound from what I thought was a terrible, terrible start in Washington,” he said. “I’m not getting too old for this. It was actually pretty fun to go through a game like this.”
Lets resign him to another extension and keep him around for a while. JS, you have your work cut out for you this offseason. I have 4 suggestions to start with. Need to be done in order.
1. Resign Wickman and Baez (we need both)
2. Resign Smoltz to an extension (if he wants to keep playing)
3. Resign Andruw to an extension
4. Trade Giles to free up salary and let the position be open to Prado, Orr, Aybar. Whoever earns it, can have it.
I agree csg. I really like Pardo. What is the word on him? Does he not walk enough or pop up too much? No one ever has really said anything about him good or bad. He has looked good both times he has been called up.
I looked and he has no power, he only hit nine home runs in the minors, but he had a lot of doubles. All of his other minor league numbers are great, solid average and OBP. Why don’t we hear more about this guy?
I’d amend #3, to say: “Re-sign Andruw to a reasonable extension, or trade him for pitching prospects.”
If we trade Andruw, and if #1 also happens, I’d then try to trade Giles for a center fielder.
And I’d amend my own #3 to say “*starting* pitching prospects.”
Smitty and Stu, agree w/ both of you.
Prado has looked solid, but w/ a small sample size. His #’s in the minors are above average and we should definitely give him some playing time the rest of the year to see what we have. I think Prado and Aybar will be fine at 2B.
Resigning Andruw, would love to see it. Also, if we could get Vernon Wells for a cheaper price than Andruw I wouldn’t be upset at all.
Wells is awesome. If he played for one of the other three teams (Mets, Red Sox, and Yankees) he would be a superstar.
This lineup wouldnt be bad:
I wold let Wells hit third move Chipper to two (I know that is crazy sounding, but I think we would be a great two hitter with some pop)
With those players we would have one hell of a line up!
I am all predicting Kelly Johnson will end up being the starting second baseman. The Braves have long praised KJ’s ability to play second base. I think they will give KJ all the oppurtunities to win the job as the position will also give KJ less strain on his elbow. Besides, he is a far better hitter than Aybar, Orr, and Prado.
That’s my prediction. We will see what happen.
I thought they moved Johnson to the outfield because he can’t catch a two hopper hit right at him.
I don’t know if anyone has seen this or not. Tom Glavine update.
no, no…….but thanks though
I would trade for Wells if we only had to give up Yates or Tony Pena Jr.
I’d trade for a staph infection if we’d get to give up Yates..
As good as a hitter as he is, I don’t like the Kelly Johnson idea. The Braves lineup is currently filled with hitters that strike out a lot. Andruw, Frenchy, LaRoche, the bench has Orr and Langerhans. Kelly Johnson is also a very good hitter but chalks up a lot of K’s. Don’t get me wrong, i like these guys. Andruw is one of my favorites of all-time. But if we put too many in our order that strike out once every 4 at-bats then it will be easy for opposing pitchers to pitch out of trouble against us.
Thats is what is so helpful about McCann, he doesn’t strike out much at all. So when he makes outs he is putting the ball in play and advancing runners, instead of striking out which does nothing but add and out.
I just want us to be careful about putting guys in the order that strike out a lot. I know we have a great lineup that can hit the long ball really well, but there have been times when we came up empty on a bases loaded, nobody out or a 2 runners in scoring position less than 2 out situation when we came up empty as a result of strikeouts.
Sorry so long.
I wasn’t impressed w/ KJ last year
Guys who hit a lot of home runs, tend to strike out a lot.
For those of you who haven’t given up on the wild card
How about this idea:
We start rooting for the Reds to pass the Cards. St. Louis is a sinking ship and I think they might be easier to catch than the Reds.
I’m not sure about all the love for Wells – a fine defender, but pretty much of an out machine in the batter’s box. He’s also about to get very expensive. Why wouldn’t you slide Francouer over to center, where his offense is more tolerable, and get someone to replace Andruw’s contributions? It’s a lot easier to find an offensive minded corner OF (well unless you’re JS) than try and replace Andruw’s D and O in one person.
KJ made a ton of errors at short, I dont know how good he’ll be at 2nd. He’s not as bad as Matt Diaz in left, but he doesn’t hit that good either.
I’ll take David Wells for the final stretch
Smoltz, Huddy, James, Davies, Wells….might not be that bad. I wouldn’t give up that much for him. My guess is the Mets try and obtain him.
Well tonight we need to win obviously, but these teams also must win/lose.
CHC vs PHI- Cubs need to win
LAD vs SD- Dodgers need to win
ARI vs SF- They are both ahead of us.(ARI is 2.5 ahead of us and SF is .5)
STL vs NYM- Once again the Mets need to win.(I hate myself for saying that)
They would need to give up some cash if we were to trade for him…..maybe they would take Yates!!! (probaly not.)
thats true, smitty, Power hitters have their flaws (strikeouts). But a lot of these people, frenchy, giles, orr, aren’t what I would call power hitters. sure, they have pop, but I don’t see these guys crashing 40 dingers consistently.
Well maybe not he is only making 2.5 this year.
I fear that that is a battle we can’t win, other General Managers have too much common sense to trade for Yates. Nobody wants this guy.
Perhaps he would better serve the Braves as a hotdog vender?
KJ’s bat would certainly carry second base; he’s a career .278/*.364/.459 in the minors (*approximate because of missing data) who has dominated AAA the last two seasons. He had some bad luck last year and will probably always be slump-prone, but I think he’ll at least match his minor league line and possibly surpass it. That said, I am not sure that he can actually field the position and Bobby is probably more insistent on defense at second than anywhere else on the field. (Two words: Blauser. Lemke. He’ll keep a bad shortstop but not a bad 2B.) The question is what type of errors he made playing short and third; if they were throwing errors he might be okay at second.
As I’ve said before, I don’t care about strikeouts at the major league level; while they have some predictive value for prospects and young players in general an out is an out is an out, and a player who’s striking out is a player who isn’t hitting into a double play, and at least he’s seeing three pitches. Teams that are overly concerned about hitter strikeouts tend to be poor teams. That being said, I believe it’s dangerous to have too many players with the same weakness and four or five 150+ strikeout players could create problems.
I have no idea what Spike is talking about. Vernon Wells has a .378 OBP, though that’s probably a career year; he isn’t Francoeur or something. He’s an outstanding player, the third member of a group with Andruw and Beltran. He’s also going to be incredibly expensive. You aren’t going to get him, don’t think about it, concentrate on Andruw, the one player the Braves might be able to have going forward.
Aybar was traded for to be our 2B next season. I envision a Diaz/KJ split in LF. Not a lot of power there, but lots of OBP. Both ideal for the 2-hole, in my opinion (with Aybar leading off).
My line-up with Andruw next season looks like this:
Without Andruw, I’d make it:
CF X (could be moved up, depending on who it is…please not Langerhans)
I know this is a semi-controversial topic around here, but I’m really glad to hear the news about Glavine. He was my favorite player growing up, and I’ll always root for him. I know Alex R. agrees with me. Now let’s hope that we can see him get #300 in a Braves uniform next year!
He was and still is my favorite pitcher. I still love him even though he is a Met. In my mind he will always be a part of the BIG 3.
Why won’t we have Andruw next year? His contract says he is signed through 07.
6-Year worth 75M- will make in 2002- 9.5M + 3M signing bonus, in 2003-11.5M, in 2004-12M, in 2005-12.5M, in 2006-13M and in 2007-13.5M- + he did not receive a bonus for a 2005 All-Star selection- + he has a complete NO-TRADE clause as a 10-5 player
The one problem I’d have, Stu, is that I really think that KJ is slump-prone, and that when he goes into a slump Diaz would take most of the PA (as happened with Langerhans last season) even though I’m pretty sure that KJ will be the superior player overall. There’s also the problem that neither player (whatever KJ’s stats say) is really a strong defender, but it’s hard with current rosters to carry a fifth outfielder.
But..if you can’t resign him to an extension…it’s better to try and trade him and get alteast something in return, instead of letting him go away for nothing.
The no-trade claus will come into effect though…as he’ll have a final say if we try and trade him
Teams that are overly concerned about hitter strikeouts tend to be poor teams.
Really? The Angels and Twins are two teams that talk about avoiding K’s and they do fine. The Angels are 24th in Ks this year and that would be their highest finish in the last five years. The Twins have been in the bottom third four of the last five and are 30th this year. Meanwhile, Cincinnati and Milwaukee lead the league almost every year. Oakland was 29th in ’03 and 30th in ’05, wouldn’t surprise me if Beane had a bit of a anti-K bent these days.
A strike out has very small negative value, however if you are striking out a ton, suddenly it’s not so small anymore. And as you mention a high K rate in the minors is a bit of a negative predictor.
Agree that we will never get Vernon Wells. Our days of getting high priced elite players are long gone.
If we can gain two games and or pass two more teams this week, we have a chance
Its a double-edged sword….”a player who’s striking out is a player who isn’t hitting into a double play, and at least he’s seeing three pitches.” – very true…but, they are also not advancing runners and could be putting more pressure on the players behind them to produce.
Pick your poison I guess.
Precisely my point, mac, I’m not against having some people in our lineup that strikeout a lot, I’m against having a lot of people in our lineup that K a lot. KJ struck out a lot in 2005 and adding him would extend to that weakness. Another weakness in our lineup is stolen bases. Many people say that stealing bases is too much of a risk due to the power hitting era that baseball is currently in. That is possibly true. But the reason I like them is simply because a stolen base is incredibly fun to watch. Knowing that a fast player is taking of for second is just a rush to me. I know thats a selfish reason to want stolen bases, but I don’t care.
The Only way we could get Vernon wells is if we let go of Andruw or Smoltz. I am against the idea of getting rid of either one. For that reason, someone else can have Wells.
I said “tend”, but fair enough. It’s just that I tend to associate teams that talk about not striking out with teams that concentrate heavily on bunting and the like. You know, “fundamentals”. Also: Merv Rettenmund. I think he talked about that a lot.
A guy who can steal a base gets in a pitcher’s head and forces him to throw more fastballs, thus giving the hitter a better chance of getting a hit. That is if Maddux isn’t pitching
6IP 3ER 2BB 4K’s…hopefully better, but we’ll see
Gotcha. The Angels are practically obsessed with not striking out, but they still win and produce some high impact minor league bats (Howie Kendrick rocks). Just curious what teams you were referring to.
Knowing that a fast player is taking of for second is just a rush to me. I know thats a selfish reason to want stolen bases, but I don’t care.
Everybody loves stolen bases and triples. No crime in that. And of course there is no way to measure the affect a speedy baserunner has on a pitcher by dividing his attention. At least I don’t think anyone has been able to quantify it. Faster players also have somewhat hidden value in taking the extra base, beating out infield hits and double plays, etc. Speed is great if you can get it, but it seems like fast guys that can hit enough to justify a lineup spot are becoming extinct. Or playing cornerback.
The best approach has always been to try and assemble a lineup with a mix of skills. It keeps you from being vulnerable to any one type of pitching. But that’s easier said then done.
We have a weakness in our order amongst most of our hitters, they can’t hit the curve ball and they can’t lay off of it.
We have a weakness in our order amongst most of our hitters, they can’t hit the curve ball and they can’t lay off of it.
We have a lot of homegrown hitters and they do have a lot of the same strengths and weaknesses, which is obvioulsy not optimal. For example, I don’t think we’ve produced a lefty hitter that could handle and decent inside fastball since David Justice. LaRoche, Langerhans, McCann, and especially Johnson all have good plate coverage and use the opposite field well but are weak on heat inside.
I suppose this is an artifact of reling almost exclusively on your own farm system for talent. You get a lot of the same stuff.
We don’t really develop hitters in the minors. Of our “Home grown hitters”, let’s take a look:
McCann: His dad is a hitting coach
Chipper: His dad comes in whne he is in a slump
Andurw: Bought a batting cage a tapes all of AB’s so he can go home and work on his hitting
Giles: Works with his brother
Adam: His dad was a big league pitcher and may work with him
THen look at Frenchy and Ryan; they are products of the system and hit like they did in high school
We should get Brian’s dad to become the hitting coach…
Yeah maybe Chipper’s and BMAC’s dads can come in and replace TP.
It works for those two maybe it would work for the rest.
Betemit came through our system and turned out decent. His story is funny though, at first everyone liked his glove but was worried about his bat. Now its vice versa.
Very true. Betemit is one of the more complete hitters we’ve produced in a while. Switch hitter, good plate coverage, good power, will take a walk. Obviously we couldn’t have that.
So who is going to pick up Madden 07 today?
Im getting mine when I find my wallet…I lose that damn thing at least 3 times a week.
We don’t know what Betemit will do long term as an everyday player
more of an NCAA fan than a Madden fan, I will not be buying it…
Chacon’s last 2 outings
Aug 3 vs. ATL 5IP 3H 1ER 0HR 4BB 3K
Aug 9 vs. STL 1.2IP 6H 7ER 3HR 4BB 1K
watch us show up like we did against Astacio in WSH
Betemit was also prone to a lot of K’s and he couldn’t lay off curve balls either.
I’d want it Jay… but I’m broke 🙁
Guess I’ll have to wait for someone else to buy it…and then borrow it sometime when Madden ’08 comes out..
True and true, but he was produced through our farm system, and while we don’t know what his long term number will be, he has proven that he can produce at the major league level.
I”m gonna have to wait probably about a month to get it, the stores are going to be sold out of it here for awhile.
I know this would never happen, since he doesn’t fit the Braves Model Player Profile, but a Giles-for-Milton-Bradley swap with the A’s this offseason seems like it might make sense for both sides. If we lose Andruw that is.
And, honestly, I expect to lose Andruw. I just don’t see our budgetary constraints allowing us to hang onto him, even if he were to play for us at a discounted rate.
Plus, trading him could bring back a couple of really, really good starting pitching prosptects, something this organization is sorely in need of right now.
I’m either going to try and buy it today or just wait a couple of days and get it on Gamefly….
IF we trade Anruw, let’s try and package him with Giles and rape some poor team of their minor leagues
I also am scared of losing Andruw. He is arguably one of the 5 best all-around (Offensive and Defensive) players in the Majors. The past few years he has blossomed from a great player to an awesome player. We will lose him if he doesn’t take a discount, which i hope he takes one. We weren’t able to hang on to Furcal last year, and Andruw’s price tag will be much bigger than Furcal’s. Our only hope is that since he is a 10-5 player with Atl, then he will be loyal to us and stay here for cheap.
HAHAHAHA…..I just saw a funny ass commercial. It was a NFL fantasy draft party…and a guy was struggling to say T.J. Houshmandzadeh…..one of his pronunciations were T.J. Whozyomamma.
I hope we keep Andruw….I don’t want to see him in another uniform…He is the best offensive and defensive CF in baseball.
Our only hope is that since he is a 10-5 player with Atl, then he will be loyal to us and stay here for cheap.
I don’t see why we couldn’t keep him. I mean we aren’t compeletly broke. If we can’t come up with some money to keep a premier player like Andruw Jones around, we might as well just fold up the franchise and forget about it. It’s one thing to lose good but not great guys like Furcal or to let an older player go but Andruw is just 29. There is no acceptable reason to not have him back unless he just doesn’t want to be here any more.
Andruw Rudolf Jones has to stay a Brave for life!!!
I hope you are right Robert, but I’m just not sure if we could compete with those teams that have a lot of cash and are eager to spend it. Andruw is a player any team would want and other teams will be wanting to spend like crazy to get him. Plus, i’m not sure we have the budget that you think we do.
I think if Andruw has his way he will be a Brave but if Scott Boras has his way Andruw is in Boston(or somewhere like that)
We need to lock up Robert Joe Wickman also.
If we re-sign our guys then with everyone coming back from injuries we may not have to go out and get someone from another team.
I agree with Jay…last time he was a FA, andruw kicked scott in the shin and said i want to remain a brave. As i was originally saying, if he does that again and gives us a discount, he will still sport the A on his hat in the future.
Being a 10-5 guy means Andruw gets to extort us, not that he might take a discount. >_
Well just because he is a 10-5 guy doesn’t mean he is going to extort us.
What i was trying to say was that Andruw being a 10-5 guy means he likes this club a lot and thus would want to stay.
…looks like someone forgot to close that tag again….
That sould do it
Braves salaries for 2008 (millions):
Hampton–13.5 (maybe only 8, if it’s been amortized)
That’s between 38 and 43.5MM tied up in just 4 players for the 2008 season (which would, in theory, be year one of Andruw’s next contract). In addition, Francoeur and McCann will both be arbitration-eligible by then, as would, I think, Kyle Davies. Conservatively, that’s a minimum of 50MM tied up in six players, leaving 30MM for the rest of the team (if we’re assuming present budgetary restraints). Andruw will cost a minimum of 15MM that season, which, if we sign him, would leave 15MM to fill out 3 positional starters, 2 members of the rotation, and the full bullpen and bench.
I guess what I’m saying is, it will likely be possible for this team to re-sign Andruw, but barring trading off various other expensive parts (and the really expensive ones will be the least tradeable), it may well prevent the team from being very deep at all. I dunno. If you could get John Lester, Craig Hansen and Coco Crisp for Andruw…it’d be awfully tempting.
*tied up in seven players, rather
Hampton has been amortized if I remember correctly. And don’t forget Smoltz, he has quite the bank account too.
We’ve been told that he’s been amortized, but some (Mac included) are skeptical that the team will see the benefits of that.
Smoltz’s current contract ends after next season. I think it’s somewhat likely that he’ll still be pitching for us in 2008, but I don’t know for how much.
If you could get John Lester, Craig Hansen and Coco Crisp for Andruw…it’d be awfully tempting.
The classic three quarters for a dollar trade. Many a GM has given into the temptation.
Really, Robert? Two are young, talented pitchers whose ceilings we don’t yet know.
And again, this would be to save salary, to be able to spend money elsewhere to better the team. Also, to add pitching depth to this organization, which is needed.
There Is No Such Thing As A Pitching Prospect.
Yeah, it’s three quarters for a dollar. Two of those quarters will be put into slot machines where there is a 15 percent chance of a jackpot but more likely you won’t get diddly. But if you’re going to lose the dollar anyway it might be worth it.
Coco Crisp is more than a quarter in my humble opinion.
All second Mac’s post. My feeling exactly.
Coco Crisp is more than a quarter in my humble opinion.
More? He’s hitting .268/.319/.386. He plays a nice center and everything but a .319 OBP from a guy who would probably hit leadoff would be an offense crippler. I think many Boston fans would think calling him a quarter was being generous.
I meant “I’ll second Mac’s post. My feelings exactly.” Proofreading is your friend.
Crisp is a Canadian quarter, which the Indians sent to the Sox via a coin op.
I know he’s having a bad year but in the past two years he has hit .300 and .297. I’d pay a quarter for that.
Well, Boston’s throw-away has definitely worked out well for us this season. 🙂
exactly, its one year…give him a break
Make, you really think it’s more likely than not that we wouldn’t get “diddly” from the Lester-Hansen combo? I have to disagree with that.
All right, all right. I’ll go to 30 cents and no higher. You guys drive a hard bargin.
It still doesn’t add up to a dollar. Bottomline, we gotta find a way to keep Andruw.
“Make?” You using a spell checker or something?
“Diddly” is probably harsh, but the odds of getting anything significant (more than decent relief or replacement-level starting) out of even a Jon Lester are pretty long. Most pitching prospects fail. Even advanced ones fail. I would guess that the odds are one of them will be at least a league-average starter, which has value.
I’m no Psychologist, but if I know JS like i think i know him, he’ll just trade those young pitchers away anyways. He seems to like doing that. Bruce Chen, Adam Wainwright, whatever his name is in Oakland, whenever we start talking about a pitcher tearing it up in Richmond, we trade him. I’ve got mixed feelings about it, in a way I like it and in a way I don’t, but that just seems to be what I have noticed. Hopefully he’ll keep Kyle Davies.
We kept Horacio! Some guys are just untouchable – in that other teams wouldn’t touch him.
Sorry. Terrible typo. That’s what happens when you try to comment on Braves Journal while taking notes in a Securities Regulation class.
I hope we keep Hiram Kyle Davies also..hopefully he comes back stronger than ever.
Since the topic was raised earlier, I would like to say that I don’t think Coco crisp is anything special. If his name was John Smith and he played in KC, no one else woud think he was very special, either.
Catchy name + Playing in Boston + One good catch replayed on Sportscenter 8 million times = Undeserved attention
man, y’all are krazy
Dan Mayer, that was his name, I had trouble remembering it.
TN Brave, I was higher on Crisp last year than I am this year. His team and that catch have nothing to do with my perception of him.
I think he’s a very good player.
Didn’t Boston re-sign Covelli Loyce Crisp and say he is there CF for the future?