Braves fans never booed Dale Murphy, they generally don’t have funnel cakes hanging out of their back pockets & they tend to actually like Santa Claus.
NY Giants 56-39 (–)
Chicago Cubs 53-47 (5.5)
St. Louis Cardinals 54-48 (5.5)
Boston Braves 50-46 (6.5) Philadelphia Phillies 46-51 (11)
Cincinnati Reds 47-53 (11.5)
Brooklyn Robins 42-52 (13.5)
Pittsburgh Pirates 42-54 (14.5)
Sundays are for church, not for baseball (even though I’m with Susan Sarandon in believeing in the Church of Baseball). Day off for the NL.
The New York Times is the source for the line scores I’ve been running lately. Today, they published partial statistical updates on players, hitters (listed by batting average, with .250 as the cutoff) and pitchers (by winning percentage, with .333 as the cutoff). The triple crown stats that we know of, home runs and RBI, weren’t listed; box scores didn’t include RBI and HR were too rare to be taken special notice. Instead, the stats listed along with batting average were stolen bases and sacrifice hits (!).
Braves stats as of August 8:
Joe Connolly, LF: .306, 5 SB, 5 SH.
Johnny Evers, 2B: .296, 9 SB, 17 SH.
Larry Gilbert, RF: .290, 3 SB, 9 SH.
Ted Cather, 4OF: .261, 10 SB, 6 SH. (Just with Boston, .204, 6 SB, 3 SH)
Butch Schmidt, 1B: .258, 9 SB, 15 SH.
Wilson Collins, 5OF: .258, 0 SB, 0 SH.
Bill James, P: .258, 0 SB, 3 SH.
Rabbit Maranville: .257, 14 SB, 15 SH.
Pitchers:
Bill James 13-6, 139 H, 67 BB, 84 K.
Dick Rudolph 14-7, 173 H, 47 BB, 68 K.
Paul Strand 3-2, 26 H, 12 BB, 18 K.
Lefty Tyler 11-9, 163 H, 72 BB, 90 K.
We are closer to the wild card than the Braves were to the Giants even now. One sustained hot streak can do it, if we can just get a ltitle more pitching and a little less Frenchy.
csg
on August 9, 2006 at 10:14 am
I wonder what Randy Wolf is going to look like today…Very interesting matchup between these two lefties. Not overpowering, but typically have good command. Hopefully James, will look better against Howard than he did Delgado. Just please dont give up HR’s to lefties on 0-2 or 1-2 counts!!!
Ron
on August 9, 2006 at 10:14 am
Brian J., unfortunately what we are getting is a lot less pitching what with Ramirez going on the DL and seemingly done for the year. The Braves have had roughly the same amount of injuries as last year. The difference is there have been no AA callups picking up the slack and no Jorge Sosa unexpectedly winning 13 games. This is the year the Braves finally ran out of magic with overcoming injuries to get to the playoffs. I guess the law of averages say we were overdue.
Sam
on August 9, 2006 at 10:15 am
Thing is, Ron, we shouldn’t have won the division at least in the past two years.
Boyer, McBride, Stockman, Foster, Devine, Horacio, Hampton, James, Thomson, Davies, and I think Hudson have all been injured. Also Smoltz pulled his hammy this year too. No other pitching staff in baseball have had this many injuries to their staff. There’s no way this team could perform to its best ability with this many injuries, not even including our offensive injuries. That’s what makes our division run so unique. You cant blame Roger for this, actually I think he’s done a good job this year considering…
Jay10
on August 9, 2006 at 10:31 am
Who is in control of our conditioning?….they suck!!
Jay10
on August 9, 2006 at 10:35 am
I don’t know if anyone has posted this but here it is.
Which of the players acquired by a trade will best benefit the Braves?
A.Willy Aybar
B.Danys Baez
C.Bob Wickman
My choice is Wickman.
Robert
on August 9, 2006 at 10:41 am
In fact, let’s imitate the Dodgers. It’s more like they are imitating us. Their devious plan of collecting as many former Braves and Red Sox is finally paying off.
Future? Jury still out, but chances are it could only be Aybar—Baez & WIckman may not be on this team in ’07.
Jay10
on August 9, 2006 at 10:44 am
Robert don’t forget about bringing up all the rookies…Kemp, Ethier, Martin, Billingsley, Saito, and Loney.
csg
on August 9, 2006 at 10:46 am
I guess McCann wasn’t good enough yesterday, we have a Pratt sighting…
1. W Aybar, 3B .256 0 2 0
2. M Giles, 2B .271 9 42 8
3. E Renteria, SS .311 11 45 12
4. A Jones, CF .273 27 97 4
5. J Francoeur, RF .256 21 78 1
6. M Diaz, LF .322 4 19 3
7. T Pratt, C .207 3 16 1
8. S Thorman, 1B .250 4 11 1
9. C James, P
Jay10
on August 9, 2006 at 10:47 am
We might have a better shot at keeping Baez over Wickman…After the trade the Indians said that they will try to sign Bob after the season and after Fausto Carmona failed as closer in just 1 week, I am sure they will offer more money than we will.
Jonathan
on August 9, 2006 at 10:47 am
From Jay’s link above (#16):
“Braves bits: Adam LaRoche was a late scratch from Tuesday’s lineup because of discomfort in his left forearm. He was hit in that area with a Bronson Arroyo pitch on Saturday. … General manager John Schuerholz’s son, Jonathan, was named the International League’s Batter of the Week for his efforts last week. The younger Schuerholz, who has struggled most of this season, earned the award after hitting .444 with two homers and 10 RBIs. … Cormier’s shutout led him to being named the IL’s Pitcher of the Week.”
Reminds me of one of those bizarro headline games you hear on morning radio where one of the items is real & the others are fake…
Jay10
on August 9, 2006 at 10:48 am
They already released the lineups?
csg
on August 9, 2006 at 10:49 am
JAY10, you dont think Wickamania will take a hometown discount. I bet JS thinks that he will.
Jay10
on August 9, 2006 at 10:50 am
I wish he would….Then again maybe he will realize that we have a better shot at post season action that CLE does.
Maybe Hudson should workin his pitching like he does his pranks
Rob Cope
on August 9, 2006 at 11:09 am
Haha that was hilarious. Ok, I got most of the people there. Obviously Perez and Hudson, Jordan, Langerhans… who were the other people? And the shorter guy? Who was he?
Wryn
on August 9, 2006 at 11:11 am
You know, it looked a lot like Hal Gileema, the stats guy for TBS. I’m looking now.
If I don’t comment anymore today, it’s because Norris broke into my house and roundhouse kicked me in the face.
Wryn
on August 9, 2006 at 11:16 am
It had to be one of the front office people – that didn’t look like a player at all. Can’t find a picture of Hal Gileema, but that’s who it looked like.
Ron
on August 9, 2006 at 11:26 am
Nothing wrong with sitting McCann against a lefty for a day game after a night game. You can’t expect him to catch 6 days a week especially with the sore ankle. The only problem is who is his backup. Can’t the Braves find some contender who wants a backup catcher to take Tank so they can call up Pena? Or, heck, even Salty despite his bad year would likely perform better.
Jay10
on August 9, 2006 at 11:29 am
I am wondering when that ankle is going to get better…it has been injured since we played Arizona.
LanceinFL
on August 9, 2006 at 11:30 am
that is SOOOO funny, I laughed SO hard, I think I need to change my underoos
Cliff Harpe
on August 9, 2006 at 11:31 am
Ron,
McCann just sat Monday, didn’t he? And tomorrow is an off day anyway. I would send out McCann unless he really looked bad or asked out.
Why are we playing so early anyway? Both the Phillies andBraves have tomorrow off. I thought these early things in the week were to help a team that was traveling. Too many schools are back in session for it to be a concession to “a day game for the family.” These day games (where nobody is under an urgent travel plan) need to be eliminated, except for maybe early April and late September.
The term “Sneaky Quick” is the dumbest term in all of sports and should stop now.
Jay10
on August 9, 2006 at 11:53 am
Today’s lineup v.s. Randy Wolf.
W.Aybar never faced
M.Giles 5-16 .313 1 RBI 6 BB 3 K
E.Renteria 3-17 .176 1 HR 2 RBI 2 BB 3 K
A.Jones 8-45 .178 2 HR 5 RBI 5 BB 9 K
J.Francoeur never faced
M.Diaz never faced
T.Pratt 0-2 1 BB
S.Thorman never faced
C.James never faced
Ron
on August 9, 2006 at 11:56 am
You’re talking about the same manager that persisted in bringing in Remlinger to face left handed batters until Shuerholz finally had the sense to DFA him. Bobby doesn’t look at numbers.
Jay10
on August 9, 2006 at 11:57 am
Phillies v.s. Chuck James
Pat Burrell 1-2 .500 1 HR 1 RBI
Ryan Howard 0-1
Mike Lieberthal 0-1
Jimmy Rollins 1-1 .1000
Aaron Rowand 1-1 1 HR 2 RBI .1000
Chase Utley 0-1
I moved three weeks ago and the cable people, who told me they could give me cable, have changed their minds. I’m getting DirectTV tomorrow. For some reason the game isn’t on the radio today and I’m mobile, so I can’t listen to it or watch it. Fortunately I’ve got a mobile wifi hotspot, so I can watch the Yahoo game channel which updates every 30 sec, and I can keep refreshing this page and monitor your comments. It just takes a lot of pulling over and refreshing/reading this way.
C’mon, let’s start playing like the Dodgers (aka the ex-Braves)…
Landogarner
on August 9, 2006 at 1:16 pm
Just pay the $15.00 for the entire season at mlb.com and you can listen to all home and away feeds of every single game in major league baseball. Then you can listen and not pull over.
I don’t know how people live without it.
Ron
on August 9, 2006 at 1:16 pm
How is Aybar getting thrown out on the wild pitch a FC? What other choice did the fielder have? Not throw?
Robert
on August 9, 2006 at 1:17 pm
I still can’t believe after all the years they invested in Betemit that just as he’s coming into his own they discard him for a singles hitting thirdbaseman. Unbelievable.
I have XM, so I can listen to any game I want. YOu always get the home team, which is sometimes great (diffrent perspective) and sometimes you get the Padres guys.
Radio on MLB.com is awesome. The investment is minimal & you have a choice of announcing teams. Plus, if you speak Spanish (or French back in the days of the Expos), they have those broadcasts, too.
You just have to remember to log on and off the site, or else you get locked out of the site for 2 hours. I’ve had a few issues with them, but they seem to have straightened out.
Landogarner
on August 9, 2006 at 1:23 pm
I like always being able to get our braves announcers from the mlb.com feeds.
I have Sirius; I signed up for it over two years ago, before MLB had signed up for satellite programming. I sent letters to Sirius, begging them to get MLB. XM got it instead. I may switch soon.
Robert
on August 9, 2006 at 1:24 pm
I always enjoy listening to Uecker when we play the Brewers.
Landogarner
on August 9, 2006 at 1:25 pm
mlb.tv feeds are nice too. Some of the things you hear between innings are priceless.
I was waiting for one of our guys to wait on that slow bender.
Jay10
on August 9, 2006 at 1:30 pm
Would you like another hot dog Mr. Jones?
Jay10
on August 9, 2006 at 1:32 pm
Does everyone else have to constantley refresh their Journal to see the new posts?
ermoore
on August 9, 2006 at 1:32 pm
Yeah, I have MLB.tv. (Atta way Andruw!!!). I kinda wish I hadn’t got it, cause my internet connection at home has deteriorated to the point where it’s useless there. I only use it for day games when I’m at work (heh, heh), but I dig there. Radio would be better cause I only flip over for highlights, and just listen to most of the game.
Anyways, like Landogarner said, the in-between-innings comments are great and I wish they didn’t cut off after a few seconds. Landogarner, does it go silent during commercials for you or is it just me?
I did that for a while Davey, but the convenience of having all the games at your fingertips, with no searching, and being able to choose the feed you want is by far worth more than $15 you pay.
Jay10
on August 9, 2006 at 1:35 pm
Oldtimer was that a yes to my question?
Landogarner
on August 9, 2006 at 1:36 pm
ermoore, yeah it goes silent and sometimes you get to watch the t.v. commercials from the local broadcast. But the feed before the game starts and sometimes for 5-10 between innings you get to listen to the broadcasters b.s. I’ve heard them talk about women in the stands and all kinds of funny shit.
I would say Nomar and Thome. Mags and Thomas are also good candidates in the A.L…but Thome has been great.
And Mags’ hair works against him. That’s gotta go…
I was about to say I think this should be his last inning. Because he is over 100 pitches. I wanted him to get the W. But now we need some more offense.
Landogarner
on August 9, 2006 at 1:46 pm
I saw Mags up close at a game a couple weeks ago. In his defense his hair looks better in person.
brule™
on August 9, 2006 at 1:47 pm
Poor James!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m late, but C.James isn’t
You know, Lando, you’re playing into Adam LaRoche’s hands… he asked all the fans who booed him before to keep booing him after he started hitting well. You’re doing EXACTLY WHAT HE ASKED. Spooky, huh?
Landogarner
on August 9, 2006 at 2:16 pm
Well he has been sucking it up again in his past couple games but I never planned on stopping anyways. I knew he would revert back to his old ways sooner rather than later.
What does Bobby see in Kali? Because I have no idea.
Landogarner
on August 9, 2006 at 2:22 pm
Did Skip just say he wishes he was loaded? LOL!@
Jeremy
on August 9, 2006 at 2:22 pm
I don’t think Bobby can see anymore.
ermoore
on August 9, 2006 at 2:22 pm
Wryn, Pratt or Orr? The answer is Yates.
csg
on August 9, 2006 at 2:23 pm
why does a reliever stay in the game after 2 walks, much less 3 walks in one inning. This is what I hate about Bobby, he thinks the reliever has to stay out there a full inning. It blows my mind. You walk the 1st batter you need to be pulled…
Okay, I have to go soon, but vote who goes in the Doghouse which only fits one:
A. Tyler Kali Yates
B. Macay McBride
C. Bad Chad Paronto
D. Bobby Cox
E. Roger McDowell
F. The suspender-clad mastermind who assembled this pitching staff.
You know, when you say, “F. The Suspender-clad mastermind,” it both constitutes an answer to Mac’s question, and a coherent statement in itself.
F. him indeed!
brule™
on August 9, 2006 at 2:48 pm
It was a nightmarish 7
Kerry B.
on August 9, 2006 at 2:48 pm
G: Ted Turner, for selling the Braves. And for selling TBS.
That billion he gave to the U.N. would look good helping the Braves sign ML-caliber relief.
ermoore
on August 9, 2006 at 2:49 pm
F.
And yeah, the simultaneous “Yahoo” was great.
Jay10
on August 9, 2006 at 2:49 pm
That is about as far as Orr will hit it.
Brian J.
on August 9, 2006 at 2:49 pm
To paraphrase our webmaster, “I’ll send them bad relievers, the worst I can find. They’ll have to sit and watch them, every fan will lose his mind.”
Honestly, what’s got to be going through the hitters’ minds now? Even if they somehow get six runs, the pen will just roll the rock right down the hill again, as happened to Sisyphus.
Some people here might disagree with me here and come with all sorts of arguments and comebacks…but I don’t care.
I want Wilson back…NOW
Landogarner
on August 9, 2006 at 2:51 pm
F. that punk.
Don’t know what to say, this is just sad and pathetic.
Brian J.
on August 9, 2006 at 2:51 pm
Two straight first-pitch outs. Orr and Aybar should have just asked the umps if we could end the game now. I bet they wanted to.
csg
on August 9, 2006 at 2:51 pm
According to several sources, the Yankees were one of four teams to put in a waiver claim on Braves center fielder Andruw Jones. The Yankees had no spot for Jones, who isn’t being dealt, but the move likely was made to make sure Jones didn’t end up in Boston. He had to be dealt by Monday, when the 72-hour period closed. Brian Cashman refused to discuss the claim because Major League Baseball prohibits teams from talking about the waiver process. Considering they were among the top teams in the AL, it’s likely the Yankees were the fourth team to claim Jones, who isn’t going to be dangled a second time.
The Betemit trade makes sense- if Cox had the sense to you Baez as a fireman, putting out blazes whenever they flare up. Instead, Cox uses him as an eighth-inning “closer,” waiting to protect leads the rest of the pen can’t deliver.
csg
on August 9, 2006 at 2:56 pm
he signs his book,
and doesnt look for a hook
he comes through late
but we still call on Yates!
Landogarner
on August 9, 2006 at 2:56 pm
For Baez yes but Aybar is no Betemit in any way shape or form. And the way Betemit has continued to play……
Brian J.
on August 9, 2006 at 2:57 pm
Two on, no out. Ken Ray has decided that since no one else bothers to make an effort, why should he?
brule™
on August 9, 2006 at 2:57 pm
Cya Jay
Terrible Bullpen Today
Sam
on August 9, 2006 at 2:57 pm
So who wanted Ken Ray in the last inning?
csg
on August 9, 2006 at 3:00 pm
I wanted anyone in the last, now I dont care anymore. Season is lost right here…Cant win at home our manager cant manage a ball game, our GM cant find ball players, and we trade away everything of value for half year rentals and expect them to resign to home town discounts. I bet Andruw demands a trade!
Kyle S
on August 9, 2006 at 3:00 pm
how can cox catch blame for this? are you guys kidding?
baez, the fireman, walked the bases loaded last night and had to be “bailed out” (if such a term can be used to allowing a 398 foot fly ball to dead center) by franklin. the problem isn’t the manager; it’s damn hard to spot-weld a leaky submarine with a half-empty box of matches and a sterno can.
Sam
on August 9, 2006 at 3:01 pm
He can’t demand a trade until after the World Series. His dream will have to come true sometime after November.
Or, to use a different metaphor, Roger McDowell is the Jolly Green Giant, Bobby Cox is Clarence Birdseye, and the Braves bullpen is a nuclear fusion reaction.
csg
on August 9, 2006 at 3:05 pm
Kyle, read your comment. Baez walked the bases loaded. Why in the hell was he still in the game after two walks? Same thing today – he brings in Yates and he has 3 walks and gives up a hit before being yanked. Answer: Bobby Cox our manager, he leaves the relievers in the game too long when they get in trouble……….Yes I blame him and also the piece of crap thats on the mound
Don Sutton: “Apparently the Mets and Mariners are fighting over which of them used ‘Who Let the Dogs Out’ first. Someone said that was a little like two mad scientists fighting over which of them discovered a horrible disease.”
Brian J.
on August 9, 2006 at 3:08 pm
Renteria is bunting… why? Is there a prize I don’t know about if we lose 9-4?
Sam
on August 9, 2006 at 3:08 pm
Nice start.
csg
on August 9, 2006 at 3:08 pm
I also blame JS for putting a bunch of crap arms in the pen for Bobby to choose from
Sam
on August 9, 2006 at 3:09 pm
Anyone think that Andruw can at least get a single?
Brian J.
on August 9, 2006 at 3:09 pm
Wow. Don Sutton is using wit now. Sounds like he’s improved to almost tolerable.
This topic bores me. We’ve gone through this ad nauseum.
JS’ options were extremely debatable in the off-season. Nobody gives Bobby credit when his moves work out (like last night—we won, remember). I also fail to see what Wilson Betemit has to do with this inning.
If that’s not bad enough, I’m off the deli loaded with Met fans…
Sam
on August 9, 2006 at 3:10 pm
*looks at the Gamecast* … Oh, God… Andruw has GOT to get a hit here.
Kyle S
on August 9, 2006 at 3:10 pm
so what, you want him to take those guys out and put in someone even worse sooner? here’s a hint: NONE OF THOSE GUYS ARE GOOD. he has to rely on someone crappy; it’s just a matter of picking your poison.
i just can’t believe you would criticize him for leaving baez/yates in too long… as if the guys who came in later are miracle workers. franklin just missed giving up a granny, paronto/mcbride got shelled. what’s so hard to understand about that? sheesh
Sam
on August 9, 2006 at 3:10 pm
Ouch. That was unlucky.
Brian J.
on August 9, 2006 at 3:11 pm
… Renteria’s brain glitched.
Sam
on August 9, 2006 at 3:11 pm
*looks in his Frenchy 2 out magic bag to see if there is anything left… again* … nope, nothing in there today.
csg
on August 9, 2006 at 3:13 pm
whats hard to understand is that the guy on the mound cant throw strikes and Bobby lets him stay out there. Yes, pick your poison, when one’s not working at least try another. sheesh……….
Sam
on August 9, 2006 at 3:13 pm
I’m amazed he managed to drive in so many people with two out, honestly.
I think just not bad if you have something to lose.
It does mean at least you wouldn’t blast hopes.
Sam
on August 9, 2006 at 3:29 pm
July 8-9, the last time that the Braves won two straight home games.
Frank
on August 9, 2006 at 3:39 pm
Just pathetic. Not winning the division was going to happen sooner or later but who expected a team so unable to retire opposing hitters that it’s not likely to be within sniffing distance of .500? Having, say, 85-90 wins but coming up a bit short of the division title or wild card would be one thing, but looking like the Royals or Pirates is entirely different. Here’s hoping JS retires after this season.
bfan
on August 9, 2006 at 3:47 pm
Boy, next year is going to be interesting. If KJ comes, back, Frenchie and his .681 OPS vs. right-handed pitching needs to be platooned, at best. Do we think anyone will have the courage to push this one?
Aside from Chuck James, the only person who had a good game today was Skip Caray, who said it correctly, “These people [Braves fans] are spoiled.”
Dan
on August 9, 2006 at 4:08 pm
Yates is the only one for the doghouse. How do you recieve a paycheck to play in the majors if you can’t even meet the minimum requirement of throwing the ball over the plate?
Sam
on August 9, 2006 at 5:59 pm
I agree with Skip’s assertion. He has announced through so many losing seasons that he can say that.
Ron
on August 9, 2006 at 7:26 pm
What happened to the game recap thread? It was up and now it’s not.
Today, tomorrow & for the next week-and-a-half, let’s imagine we’re the Dodgers. In fact, let’s imitate the Dodgers.
Ok, I will go to the game and show up around the third inning. Can we trade Rathburn for Scully?
With some of the things said about our own players on here, I don’t think we have a right to be making fun of how negative Philly fans are!
— Bravesfan1
Hey- Alex and Stu never threw batteries at Kolb or Sosa.
Braves fans never booed Dale Murphy, they generally don’t have funnel cakes hanging out of their back pockets & they tend to actually like Santa Claus.
FYI – More Andruw banter.
http://www.nypost.com/sports/yankees/yanks_put_in_claim_on_andruw_yankees_george_king.htm
1914 Update:
NY Giants 56-39 (–)
Chicago Cubs 53-47 (5.5)
St. Louis Cardinals 54-48 (5.5)
Boston Braves 50-46 (6.5)
Philadelphia Phillies 46-51 (11)
Cincinnati Reds 47-53 (11.5)
Brooklyn Robins 42-52 (13.5)
Pittsburgh Pirates 42-54 (14.5)
Sundays are for church, not for baseball (even though I’m with Susan Sarandon in believeing in the Church of Baseball). Day off for the NL.
The New York Times is the source for the line scores I’ve been running lately. Today, they published partial statistical updates on players, hitters (listed by batting average, with .250 as the cutoff) and pitchers (by winning percentage, with .333 as the cutoff). The triple crown stats that we know of, home runs and RBI, weren’t listed; box scores didn’t include RBI and HR were too rare to be taken special notice. Instead, the stats listed along with batting average were stolen bases and sacrifice hits (!).
Braves stats as of August 8:
Joe Connolly, LF: .306, 5 SB, 5 SH.
Johnny Evers, 2B: .296, 9 SB, 17 SH.
Larry Gilbert, RF: .290, 3 SB, 9 SH.
Ted Cather, 4OF: .261, 10 SB, 6 SH. (Just with Boston, .204, 6 SB, 3 SH)
Butch Schmidt, 1B: .258, 9 SB, 15 SH.
Wilson Collins, 5OF: .258, 0 SB, 0 SH.
Bill James, P: .258, 0 SB, 3 SH.
Rabbit Maranville: .257, 14 SB, 15 SH.
Pitchers:
Bill James 13-6, 139 H, 67 BB, 84 K.
Dick Rudolph 14-7, 173 H, 47 BB, 68 K.
Paul Strand 3-2, 26 H, 12 BB, 18 K.
Lefty Tyler 11-9, 163 H, 72 BB, 90 K.
I love the 1914 updates
Thanks, Brian. I appreciate your optimism.
We are closer to the wild card than the Braves were to the Giants even now. One sustained hot streak can do it, if we can just get a ltitle more pitching and a little less Frenchy.
I wonder what Randy Wolf is going to look like today…Very interesting matchup between these two lefties. Not overpowering, but typically have good command. Hopefully James, will look better against Howard than he did Delgado. Just please dont give up HR’s to lefties on 0-2 or 1-2 counts!!!
Brian J., unfortunately what we are getting is a lot less pitching what with Ramirez going on the DL and seemingly done for the year. The Braves have had roughly the same amount of injuries as last year. The difference is there have been no AA callups picking up the slack and no Jorge Sosa unexpectedly winning 13 games. This is the year the Braves finally ran out of magic with overcoming injuries to get to the playoffs. I guess the law of averages say we were overdue.
Thing is, Ron, we shouldn’t have won the division at least in the past two years.
It’s been a while since I’ve seen Randy Wolf
Boyer, McBride, Stockman, Foster, Devine, Horacio, Hampton, James, Thomson, Davies, and I think Hudson have all been injured. Also Smoltz pulled his hammy this year too. No other pitching staff in baseball have had this many injuries to their staff. There’s no way this team could perform to its best ability with this many injuries, not even including our offensive injuries. That’s what makes our division run so unique. You cant blame Roger for this, actually I think he’s done a good job this year considering…
Who is in control of our conditioning?….they suck!!
I don’t know if anyone has posted this but here it is.
http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060808&content_id=1599173&vkey=news_atl&fext=.jsp&c_id=atl
Poll of the day.
Which of the players acquired by a trade will best benefit the Braves?
A.Willy Aybar
B.Danys Baez
C.Bob Wickman
My choice is Wickman.
In fact, let’s imitate the Dodgers. It’s more like they are imitating us. Their devious plan of collecting as many former Braves and Red Sox is finally paying off.
In this short period of time it has definately been Wick…
Now or in the future?
Now? Wickman.
Future? Jury still out, but chances are it could only be Aybar—Baez & WIckman may not be on this team in ’07.
Robert don’t forget about bringing up all the rookies…Kemp, Ethier, Martin, Billingsley, Saito, and Loney.
I guess McCann wasn’t good enough yesterday, we have a Pratt sighting…
1. W Aybar, 3B .256 0 2 0
2. M Giles, 2B .271 9 42 8
3. E Renteria, SS .311 11 45 12
4. A Jones, CF .273 27 97 4
5. J Francoeur, RF .256 21 78 1
6. M Diaz, LF .322 4 19 3
7. T Pratt, C .207 3 16 1
8. S Thorman, 1B .250 4 11 1
9. C James, P
We might have a better shot at keeping Baez over Wickman…After the trade the Indians said that they will try to sign Bob after the season and after Fausto Carmona failed as closer in just 1 week, I am sure they will offer more money than we will.
From Jay’s link above (#16):
“Braves bits: Adam LaRoche was a late scratch from Tuesday’s lineup because of discomfort in his left forearm. He was hit in that area with a Bronson Arroyo pitch on Saturday. … General manager John Schuerholz’s son, Jonathan, was named the International League’s Batter of the Week for his efforts last week. The younger Schuerholz, who has struggled most of this season, earned the award after hitting .444 with two homers and 10 RBIs. … Cormier’s shutout led him to being named the IL’s Pitcher of the Week.”
Reminds me of one of those bizarro headline games you hear on morning radio where one of the items is real & the others are fake…
They already released the lineups?
JAY10, you dont think Wickamania will take a hometown discount. I bet JS thinks that he will.
I wish he would….Then again maybe he will realize that we have a better shot at post season action that CLE does.
Day game after a night game in August in Atlanta. This is why you have a second catcher
Hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!
That was funny as hell!!!!!
Great stuff Wryn.
Eddie should have busted some people in the face after that
Maybe Hudson should workin his pitching like he does his pranks
Haha that was hilarious. Ok, I got most of the people there. Obviously Perez and Hudson, Jordan, Langerhans… who were the other people? And the shorter guy? Who was he?
You know, it looked a lot like Hal Gileema, the stats guy for TBS. I’m looking now.
I think I saw Smoltz.
Smoltzie was there, just being awesome as usuall…
I think Smoltzie was there at the end.
Smoltz is the Chuck Norris of the Braves
I heard John Smoltz’ tears can cure AIDs and cancer. Too bad he doesn’t cry.
Who was the guy in the blue shirt…when Eddie opened the door. Next to Langy and BJ.
Smoltz has a better beard than Norris…
If I don’t comment anymore today, it’s because Norris broke into my house and roundhouse kicked me in the face.
It had to be one of the front office people – that didn’t look like a player at all. Can’t find a picture of Hal Gileema, but that’s who it looked like.
Nothing wrong with sitting McCann against a lefty for a day game after a night game. You can’t expect him to catch 6 days a week especially with the sore ankle. The only problem is who is his backup. Can’t the Braves find some contender who wants a backup catcher to take Tank so they can call up Pena? Or, heck, even Salty despite his bad year would likely perform better.
I am wondering when that ankle is going to get better…it has been injured since we played Arizona.
that is SOOOO funny, I laughed SO hard, I think I need to change my underoos
Ron,
McCann just sat Monday, didn’t he? And tomorrow is an off day anyway. I would send out McCann unless he really looked bad or asked out.
Why are we playing so early anyway? Both the Phillies andBraves have tomorrow off. I thought these early things in the week were to help a team that was traveling. Too many schools are back in session for it to be a concession to “a day game for the family.” These day games (where nobody is under an urgent travel plan) need to be eliminated, except for maybe early April and late September.
Cliff, It is a get away day.
We should just trade Pena. We won’t call him up, because sitting would take much needed AB’s away from him.
Smitty,
Couldn’t the same thing be said about Salty?
McCann won’t be fully healthy again this year. He needs the rest in the offseason to get that ankle back to 100%
Today’s Lineups.
J.Rollins SS
S.Victorino RF
C.Utley 2B
R.Howard 1B
P.Burrell LF
A.Rowand CF
M.Lieberthal C
A.Nunez 3B
R.Wolf P
W.Ayabar 3B
M.Giles 2B
E.Renteria SS
A.Jones CF
J.Francoeur RF
M.Diaz LF
T.Pratt C
S.Thorman 1B
C.James P
Has anyone looked to see what Pratt’s numbers are against Wolf, maybe that has something to do with it as well.
Pratt doesn’t have any at-bats against Wolf…at least this year.
Fair point about the off day tomorrow. Chalk it up to Bobby’s love affair with lefty-righty matchups I guess.
Todd Pratt is 0-2 in his career against Randy Wolf.
He’s 0-2 with a walk. I’m pretty sure that’s today’s best case scenario.
The term “Sneaky Quick” is the dumbest term in all of sports and should stop now.
Today’s lineup v.s. Randy Wolf.
W.Aybar never faced
M.Giles 5-16 .313 1 RBI 6 BB 3 K
E.Renteria 3-17 .176 1 HR 2 RBI 2 BB 3 K
A.Jones 8-45 .178 2 HR 5 RBI 5 BB 9 K
J.Francoeur never faced
M.Diaz never faced
T.Pratt 0-2 1 BB
S.Thorman never faced
C.James never faced
You’re talking about the same manager that persisted in bringing in Remlinger to face left handed batters until Shuerholz finally had the sense to DFA him. Bobby doesn’t look at numbers.
Phillies v.s. Chuck James
Pat Burrell 1-2 .500 1 HR 1 RBI
Ryan Howard 0-1
Mike Lieberthal 0-1
Jimmy Rollins 1-1 .1000
Aaron Rowand 1-1 1 HR 2 RBI .1000
Chase Utley 0-1
Seeing how Pratt was a Phillie for the last four and a half years, of course he hasn’t faced Wolf. But I’m sure he’s caught him.
Huddy gave all the credit to Roger for his success last night….
Oh, we’re wearing the Red jerseys today.
Alot of lefties on the bench today….McCann, LaRoche, Langerhans and Orr
Ah, the red jerseys. If Wickman pitches, can we call him “The Great Tomato”?
Isn’t that graphic on TBS just wonderful…
Great double clutch.
Looked like a good pitch..
Yeah, I liked it too.
There we go Chuckie!!!
Geez, the stands are empty today.
Aybar is already retired??…
I just turned my back for a second…
No, sadly, I think he’ll still be playing. Just not hitting.
I went and bought that wasp spray that hits wasps from 20 feet out. So much fun
try it with a lighter Smitty 🙂
on second thought, as paramedic, Smitty, dont try it with a lighter
WTF!!!! That was right down the middle.
Chuck has thrown alot of pitches so far…45
Would’ve been nice if they attempted to throw out Rowand there…
Yeah no one covered….Looks like the Phils will be running all day.
Who would you rather have?
Lieberthal or Pratt
Um… Pena.. Salty… a vending machine with a glove attached to it…
All would be better choices
Nasty hook on that curve.
For that video, when the door opens I always thought it was Kevin Gryboski with them.
I’ve always liked Lieberthal – I’d take him over Pratt in a second.
Infield hit….
Lieberthal throws people out atleast…
DAMN,DAMN,DAMN,DAMN. Why can’t we steal bases!!!
I think that is #27 on caught stealing.
42 steals, 28 CS. Worst percentage of all time. At least it should be.
Not even A.J Nicholson gets caught stealing that much…
LOL
I WANT CHIPPER BACK, NOW!!!!!!!!
Memo to Mr. Aybar:
WEAR GLASSES FOR DAY GAMES.
LOL
“that is not a happy face”
Ofcourse… he gets a hit after that.
Great…
Aybar cost us a hit. And more pitches.
Left-handed? Got a pulse? Well then you too can shutdown the Atlanta Braves.
I wish I was watching the game with you guys. Hopefully I’ll get my TBS back soon and can join you. In the meantime: GO BRAVES!!
Chuck is shutting down Ryan Howard.
What’s wrong with your TBS?
I am listening to the game at work and it is sooo borring I can’t do work, I just want to go back to bed.
This game is being played like two teams who are anxious to get to their off day tomorrow.
That was sad.
I moved three weeks ago and the cable people, who told me they could give me cable, have changed their minds. I’m getting DirectTV tomorrow. For some reason the game isn’t on the radio today and I’m mobile, so I can’t listen to it or watch it. Fortunately I’ve got a mobile wifi hotspot, so I can watch the Yahoo game channel which updates every 30 sec, and I can keep refreshing this page and monitor your comments. It just takes a lot of pulling over and refreshing/reading this way.
I’m off again!
Aybar is totally useless. I want Betemit back.
C’mon, let’s start playing like the Dodgers (aka the ex-Braves)…
Just pay the $15.00 for the entire season at mlb.com and you can listen to all home and away feeds of every single game in major league baseball. Then you can listen and not pull over.
I don’t know how people live without it.
How is Aybar getting thrown out on the wild pitch a FC? What other choice did the fielder have? Not throw?
I still can’t believe after all the years they invested in Betemit that just as he’s coming into his own they discard him for a singles hitting thirdbaseman. Unbelievable.
Great catch Andruw.
I have XM, so I can listen to any game I want. YOu always get the home team, which is sometimes great (diffrent perspective) and sometimes you get the Padres guys.
THe first game of the year I got Vin Scully!
Is Andruw gaining weight between innings? He looks huge.
Radio on MLB.com is awesome. The investment is minimal & you have a choice of announcing teams. Plus, if you speak Spanish (or French back in the days of the Expos), they have those broadcasts, too.
You just have to remember to log on and off the site, or else you get locked out of the site for 2 hours. I’ve had a few issues with them, but they seem to have straightened out.
I like always being able to get our braves announcers from the mlb.com feeds.
I have Sirius; I signed up for it over two years ago, before MLB had signed up for satellite programming. I sent letters to Sirius, begging them to get MLB. XM got it instead. I may switch soon.
I always enjoy listening to Uecker when we play the Brewers.
mlb.tv feeds are nice too. Some of the things you hear between innings are priceless.
I just look for the free streaming stuff online….
James doing good. I hope our bats wake-up before Howard does.
Comeback player should be Edgar and Thome.
Gone!!
Get out.
DRUW!!!!!!!!!!!!
MVP!!
Keep eating buddy!
He keeps throwing that Curve.
I was waiting for one of our guys to wait on that slow bender.
Would you like another hot dog Mr. Jones?
Does everyone else have to constantley refresh their Journal to see the new posts?
Yeah, I have MLB.tv. (Atta way Andruw!!!). I kinda wish I hadn’t got it, cause my internet connection at home has deteriorated to the point where it’s useless there. I only use it for day games when I’m at work (heh, heh), but I dig there. Radio would be better cause I only flip over for highlights, and just listen to most of the game.
Anyways, like Landogarner said, the in-between-innings comments are great and I wish they didn’t cut off after a few seconds. Landogarner, does it go silent during commercials for you or is it just me?
yes.
Come on THOR!!!
I did that for a while Davey, but the convenience of having all the games at your fingertips, with no searching, and being able to choose the feed you want is by far worth more than $15 you pay.
Oldtimer was that a yes to my question?
ermoore, yeah it goes silent and sometimes you get to watch the t.v. commercials from the local broadcast. But the feed before the game starts and sometimes for 5-10 between innings you get to listen to the broadcasters b.s. I’ve heard them talk about women in the stands and all kinds of funny shit.
I get ya Lando…
Jay you forgot Nomar. I thought he was finished but he is having an amazing year.
I know, but I am a little biased. 🙂
I would say Nomar and Thome. Mags and Thomas are also good candidates in the A.L…but Thome has been great.
And Mags’ hair works against him. That’s gotta go…
Sorry, yeah, that was to you Jay10 about the refreshing.
It’s kinda like a Rico Suave/mullet.
I think I spelled that wrong but oh well.
Oh, ok. I thought I was the only one.
XM has the baseball, but Sirius seems to have everything else.
My magazine works with Sirius & I’ve done a couple shows with them & their setup is amazing.
It’s more like Rico Shitty…
it’s looks very bad Jay…
DAMN
You’re with me tied ballgame…
I was about to say I think this should be his last inning. Because he is over 100 pitches. I wanted him to get the W. But now we need some more offense.
I saw Mags up close at a game a couple weeks ago. In his defense his hair looks better in person.
Poor James!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m late, but C.James isn’t
Chucky’s up to 105. Gonna have to score here to get him the W.
Come on Aybar, prove us wrong.
Yes.
Rick White(Wickman Twin) is warming up.
Yes, Druw time!!!
The 480 people in the stadium are doing the Chop….
Oh boy. Frenchie.
TBS loves to bring up that 2-out rbi stat..
That’s not a pretty man right there(rick white)….alot of facial hair.
Geez. There’s one I’ve never seen before.
YES!!
FRENCHY!!!!
Hacktacular!!! 2-1 Braves!!
Go Hacky!!
Atta boy Francoeur!!!
Yeah Frenchy and those two out rbi’s suck don’t they? Frenchy is the suck.
Well, we all know that Francouer is one of the best clutch hitters in baseball, and anyone who says differently is a moonbat.
gotta like Matthew’s hustle
Rick White looks like my grandma’s schnauzer.
Okay I will leave him alone.
DIAZ!!!! Hustle!!!
Huzzay!
I love Diaz beating out 2 throws today!!
Will the ump PLEASE warn the Phillies bench… that’s about the fourth or fifth time that a Braves batter has had to duck an inside pitch.
On a brighter note… YES!
We can still get Chucky the win now. Sweet.
Todd Pratt or Pete Orr – who is more useless?
Is it James or Yates?
C. all of the above.
That’s it, Francoeur. I want you to play the game like that.
Btw where’s Rochey? Is he hurt or day off?
….Yates…oh boy..
As far as I know it is just a day off.
BTW, this is about Giles and staying in the #2 spot when Chipper comes back.
http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060809&content_id=1600902&vkey=news_atl&fext=.jsp&c_id=atl
Huckleberry was out yesterday with a “sore forearm” so maybe his poor wittle arm still hurts.
Oh, goody. Two on and 0 outs.
Tell me he didn’t just walk Lieberthal on 4 straight. Tell me he at least threw one strike. Please?
You know, Lando, you’re playing into Adam LaRoche’s hands… he asked all the fans who booed him before to keep booing him after he started hitting well. You’re doing EXACTLY WHAT HE ASKED. Spooky, huh?
Well he has been sucking it up again in his past couple games but I never planned on stopping anyways. I knew he would revert back to his old ways sooner rather than later.
Yates isn’t even close to the strike zone today.
Get Tyra out of there, now.
You kidding me Yates???
For cryin’ out loud . . . why can’t anything be easy this year?
Why’s he still out there? Ridiculous.
BOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
The bouncer is warming up…
Finally a strike.
Don’t you guys know that one good inning buys Yates 10 horrible innings, in Bobbys eyes?
DP.
…….
You dumbass
Ugh. Bobby… at least he’s going out while we still have the lead.
What does Bobby see in Kali? Because I have no idea.
Did Skip just say he wishes he was loaded? LOL!@
I don’t think Bobby can see anymore.
Wryn, Pratt or Orr? The answer is Yates.
why does a reliever stay in the game after 2 walks, much less 3 walks in one inning. This is what I hate about Bobby, he thinks the reliever has to stay out there a full inning. It blows my mind. You walk the 1st batter you need to be pulled…
Skip: “Ball 4, walks in a run, the bases are still loaded & I kinda wish I was.”
“the bases are still loaded, and I sorta wish I was” ha
dp
dp
dp
dp
dp
dp
!!ahaha!! I knew I wasn’t just hearing things. Wow, that was classic. Love our announcers.
Le Sigh.
GYRO
GYRO
GYRO
GYRO
Should we even be surprised?????
game over
Jesus. Chase Utley. Chase Utley. Jesus.
God I hate being a Braves fan sometimes.
WTF… !!!
Damn Chase Utley
McBride is terrible.
I think Chuck James could enlist John Smoltz in that endeavor.
Get Yates and McBride a bunk bed.
Can McBride join Yates in that doghouse?
What a disaster, man we have seen to much of this this year.
The inning from hell…
In today’s SI, there’s a story about Chase Utley and how much of a hustling player he is.
Reds get Todd Hollandsworth…they just don’t stop trading do they?
Get Yates and McBride one-way tickets to Siberia. Or Atlantis (might be easier to pass off…)
This way I don’t have to create another graphic. The Yates Doghouse gets lots of use.
Anyway, recap will probably be late as I have a meeting and I don’t know how long it will go. I know I hate to miss this.
What happened to the pitcher’s duel?
O yeah Yates and McBride.
The moral of this story, Mr. Schuerholz, is that importing a closer for this bullpen is putting a band-aid on a gunshot wound.
That line by Skip is almost straight outta Major Leagues. Skip is the best, it’s gonna hurt if we don’t getta hear him anymore in a couple of years.
An error.
Oh an infield hit.
why doesn’t Ray get the call in the 7th?
lose this series, season over!
I haven’t seen him in a while.
The fact that Skip’s been on the wagon the last several years tells you just how distressed Yates made him.
I want Betemit back…
Bobby, none of these relief pitchers should ever see daylight again. Or nighttime stadium lights, for that matter.
I don’t think I felt this bad during the ’80s. I’m not sure, is this 2006 or 1986?
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, game over.
I have barely seen Macay McBride has went 1inning.
Yates is alone. He should live under the same roof with McBride.
Wow, the Braves just broke my spirit right there. I’m done. I resisted for as long as I could, but they have broken me. I can’t even turn away.
season over!
This is almost funny. Almost
The inning from sub-hell…
Yeah, Atlanta’s given up. Thanks Yates. Thanks McBride. Thanks Paronto.
Can we get the 10-run rule installed? They’re gonna need it.
Paronto also wants to get his era up, just like Yates and McBride…
i think this inning just about sums up the season for the braves
I’m starting to think the Dodgers owned J.S. in that trade. Oh god we are going to be screwed without Dayton to do J.S.’s work for him.
This losing stuff is all new to me… I was lucky enough to miss the 1980 Braves.
I hope Paul LoDuca took the “over” in this one….
Everybody hates
Bobby’s spates
Of opening the gates
To Tyler Yates
Can we keep them below 10 this inning?
Oh hell… go ahead, let Rollins hit a granny.
You have a gift my friend.
Memo to starting pitchers:
You’re going nine, pitch counts be damned.
Signed:
Yates, Paronto, McBride, Ray, and Baez.
ha, good one, Mac
can they fit in crates!
OMG were worse than the Royals.
Yates gets to pitch to Vitorino after loading the bases because…. ?
Jay: just imagine the way you feel now but stretched out over a decade. That’s why 1991 really was so special.
Fewest home wins in the MAJORS…
How dare we even dream of the wildcard??????
Edit to memo:
Eight might work. Depends on if Wickman ate before the game.
Let Roger McDowell pitch.
Ball 4 & they get the 2-point conversion.
so much for resigning Andruw. I bet he’s tired of this crap too!
I wonder if Bobby cries himself to sleep after games like this?
I know I do.
Andruw’s probably miffed now that he wasn’t traded…
This inning is getting almost funny
Okay, I have to go soon, but vote who goes in the Doghouse which only fits one:
A. Tyler Kali Yates
B. Macay McBride
C. Bad Chad Paronto
D. Bobby Cox
E. Roger McDowell
F. The suspender-clad mastermind who assembled this pitching staff.
Bobby Dews needs to start warming up in the pen
I started laughing after Utley scored.
“Monty, anything to add?
Ummm… no.”
I knew I forgot a signature.
F. The suspender-clad mastermind who assembled this pitching staff.
I choose him!
4 BB 6 H 2 Outs, good job guys! Let Smoltz, Huddy, Renteria, McCann, and the Jones’ have an early vacation. No point in playing anymore!
* sarcastic applause *
Of course no one caught it.
I just saw the look of fear in that bat boy’s eyes…..A tank one direction and the almighty Thor in the other.
Yahooooooooo
Okay, that dual “Yahoo!” just really cracked me up…
Wait… we’re out of the inning? Really? Truly? Yahoo!
Gotta be Yates.
8 Runs in one inning, this tops all performances this year
F. And I suggest the front page be titled “Fire John.”
F.
F. The suspender-clad mastermind who assembled this pitching staff.
I’m leaving now. L8r.
You know, when you say, “F. The Suspender-clad mastermind,” it both constitutes an answer to Mac’s question, and a coherent statement in itself.
F. him indeed!
It was a nightmarish 7
G: Ted Turner, for selling the Braves. And for selling TBS.
That billion he gave to the U.N. would look good helping the Braves sign ML-caliber relief.
F.
And yeah, the simultaneous “Yahoo” was great.
That is about as far as Orr will hit it.
To paraphrase our webmaster, “I’ll send them bad relievers, the worst I can find. They’ll have to sit and watch them, every fan will lose his mind.”
Honestly, what’s got to be going through the hitters’ minds now? Even if they somehow get six runs, the pen will just roll the rock right down the hill again, as happened to Sisyphus.
I’ve seen more pop in Barbaro’s leg than in Pete Orr’s bat…
PETE ORR!!! We’re back in it now . . . or not.
i would of rather seen 10 straight singles. THROW STRIKES, YOUR A PROFESOINAL BASEBALL PLAYER, ACT LIKE IT DAMN IT!
Some people here might disagree with me here and come with all sorts of arguments and comebacks…but I don’t care.
I want Wilson back…NOW
F. that punk.
Don’t know what to say, this is just sad and pathetic.
Two straight first-pitch outs. Orr and Aybar should have just asked the umps if we could end the game now. I bet they wanted to.
According to several sources, the Yankees were one of four teams to put in a waiver claim on Braves center fielder Andruw Jones. The Yankees had no spot for Jones, who isn’t being dealt, but the move likely was made to make sure Jones didn’t end up in Boston. He had to be dealt by Monday, when the 72-hour period closed. Brian Cashman refused to discuss the claim because Major League Baseball prohibits teams from talking about the waiver process. Considering they were among the top teams in the AL, it’s likely the Yankees were the fourth team to claim Jones, who isn’t going to be dangled a second time.
I am leaving see everyone later.
Now Ray is in the game
See ya.
The Betemit trade makes sense- if Cox had the sense to you Baez as a fireman, putting out blazes whenever they flare up. Instead, Cox uses him as an eighth-inning “closer,” waiting to protect leads the rest of the pen can’t deliver.
he signs his book,
and doesnt look for a hook
he comes through late
but we still call on Yates!
For Baez yes but Aybar is no Betemit in any way shape or form. And the way Betemit has continued to play……
Two on, no out. Ken Ray has decided that since no one else bothers to make an effort, why should he?
Cya Jay
Terrible Bullpen Today
So who wanted Ken Ray in the last inning?
I wanted anyone in the last, now I dont care anymore. Season is lost right here…Cant win at home our manager cant manage a ball game, our GM cant find ball players, and we trade away everything of value for half year rentals and expect them to resign to home town discounts. I bet Andruw demands a trade!
how can cox catch blame for this? are you guys kidding?
baez, the fireman, walked the bases loaded last night and had to be “bailed out” (if such a term can be used to allowing a 398 foot fly ball to dead center) by franklin. the problem isn’t the manager; it’s damn hard to spot-weld a leaky submarine with a half-empty box of matches and a sterno can.
He can’t demand a trade until after the World Series. His dream will have to come true sometime after November.
That’s why “F” is the answer to Mac’s question…
Oh, Kyle, you know how fans think they can manage better than the team they root for. All cases, no matter how good or bad the manager is.
Kyle, well said.
Or, to use a different metaphor, Roger McDowell is the Jolly Green Giant, Bobby Cox is Clarence Birdseye, and the Braves bullpen is a nuclear fusion reaction.
Kyle, read your comment. Baez walked the bases loaded. Why in the hell was he still in the game after two walks? Same thing today – he brings in Yates and he has 3 walks and gives up a hit before being yanked. Answer: Bobby Cox our manager, he leaves the relievers in the game too long when they get in trouble……….Yes I blame him and also the piece of crap thats on the mound
Don Sutton: “Apparently the Mets and Mariners are fighting over which of them used ‘Who Let the Dogs Out’ first. Someone said that was a little like two mad scientists fighting over which of them discovered a horrible disease.”
Renteria is bunting… why? Is there a prize I don’t know about if we lose 9-4?
Nice start.
I also blame JS for putting a bunch of crap arms in the pen for Bobby to choose from
Anyone think that Andruw can at least get a single?
Wow. Don Sutton is using wit now. Sounds like he’s improved to almost tolerable.
Now let’s get a rally going here.
This topic bores me. We’ve gone through this ad nauseum.
JS’ options were extremely debatable in the off-season. Nobody gives Bobby credit when his moves work out (like last night—we won, remember). I also fail to see what Wilson Betemit has to do with this inning.
If that’s not bad enough, I’m off the deli loaded with Met fans…
*looks at the Gamecast* … Oh, God… Andruw has GOT to get a hit here.
so what, you want him to take those guys out and put in someone even worse sooner? here’s a hint: NONE OF THOSE GUYS ARE GOOD. he has to rely on someone crappy; it’s just a matter of picking your poison.
i just can’t believe you would criticize him for leaving baez/yates in too long… as if the guys who came in later are miracle workers. franklin just missed giving up a granny, paronto/mcbride got shelled. what’s so hard to understand about that? sheesh
Ouch. That was unlucky.
… Renteria’s brain glitched.
*looks in his Frenchy 2 out magic bag to see if there is anything left… again* … nope, nothing in there today.
whats hard to understand is that the guy on the mound cant throw strikes and Bobby lets him stay out there. Yes, pick your poison, when one’s not working at least try another. sheesh……….
I’m amazed he managed to drive in so many people with two out, honestly.
I think I am going to write a eulogy for the Braves sometime this week on my blog. I’ll let you know when I have the will to do it.
Hey, with any luck, that’ll spur them to the pennant like the Astros last year. lol
Just put the whole team (including the GM) in the doghouse and be done with it for the year.
Sam he just got a two out rbi earlier in the game. You can’t expect him to do it every time.
Well, I never see it with my own eyes. 🙂 j/k.
The Vulture is looking good.
The Vulture must have the most deceiving 8-1 record ever…
They’re all garbage wins, that’s why. 😀
No Davey, that would be Sosa last year
Yeah I wonder if there is some AL team that doesn’t know the real Vulture that we could pawn him off on for a decent prospect.
I think we need a more drastic regime than “the doghouse.” Call it “the hall of political prisoners” or “the Maginot line.”
I nominate everyone on the team except for McCann, Smoltz, and Andruw.
Frenchy w/ 2 outs
70AB 17H 3BB 16K .243AVG .274OBP
and RISP
Email me your ideas of what you want to read in my blog for the eulogy, if you don’t mind me combining them with mine.
BSmith9215@yahoo.com
I don’t want to read a eulogy until I have to.
I think just not bad if you have something to lose.
It does mean at least you wouldn’t blast hopes.
July 8-9, the last time that the Braves won two straight home games.
Just pathetic. Not winning the division was going to happen sooner or later but who expected a team so unable to retire opposing hitters that it’s not likely to be within sniffing distance of .500? Having, say, 85-90 wins but coming up a bit short of the division title or wild card would be one thing, but looking like the Royals or Pirates is entirely different. Here’s hoping JS retires after this season.
Boy, next year is going to be interesting. If KJ comes, back, Frenchie and his .681 OPS vs. right-handed pitching needs to be platooned, at best. Do we think anyone will have the courage to push this one?
Aside from Chuck James, the only person who had a good game today was Skip Caray, who said it correctly, “These people [Braves fans] are spoiled.”
Yates is the only one for the doghouse. How do you recieve a paycheck to play in the majors if you can’t even meet the minimum requirement of throwing the ball over the plate?
I agree with Skip’s assertion. He has announced through so many losing seasons that he can say that.
What happened to the game recap thread? It was up and now it’s not.
It’s been published. I don’t know why it didn’t show up for you. I was wondering why nobody was commenting but I figured it was just depression.