An oldie, slightly updated… Fun Mets Fact: “Mets” spelled backwards is “Stem”. Ironically, this is the only part of the brain active in certain Mets fans.
As a Northern Virginia resident, let me say that RFK is a horrific place to watch a game. And I grew up going to Fulton County Stadium when my family would drive up from Savannah. I am COUNTING the minutes until a new DC stadium is built.
Second, Hudson…get it together. If you are hurt as Mac suggests, then get the hell out of the rotation and let Chuckie James have a shot. If Davies is now comfortable and Smoltz and Thomson are already there, we are closer and closer to having a strong 5-man rotation. Hudson needs to get his act together.
Third, why has Adam not been hanging out with Chipper more? If the Ridalyn kicks in, then Adam needs to focus on everything Chipper has to say.
Fourth, Jim Bowden is not only a drunk and a moron, but he looks like a hybrid of a game show host…some sort of bizarre Peter Tomarken, Chuck Woolery, and Bob Eubanks human hybrid.
Do you guys realize that if Bobby WALKS Carlos Delgado on Monday and then Sosa gets David Wright out (something he was doing just fine) the Braves win that game 3-2 and we are 2-0 at Shea Stadium this year?
When are the ESPN fools going to stop handing the division to the Mets yet?
By the way, loving ordered the MLB package…the part of the game I did listen to, the Mets announcers (including Ron Darling who was here in DC last year doing the Nats games) were less biased then the ESPN guys. Darling (who I met when I was a kid and he’s a nice guy, class act) was very complimentary of the young Braves and both guys in particular were complimentary of Wilson Betemit–Mac pointed out to me that they called him the most underrated player in the National League.
Why are we getting fairer and better analysis from the Mets announcers then the supposedly neutral ESPN guys? It’s just odd but a nice shout out to the Mets guys for being classy.
Dix
on April 19, 2006 at 8:49 am
ESPN has never been neutral.
They following teams always have their genetalia in ESPN’s mouth:
Duke Basketball
Ohio State Football
Miami Football
Notre Dame Football
Colorado Avalanche
Detroit Redwings
New York Yankees
New York Mets
Boston Red Sox
and whatever other team looks like a favorite in any given year, until someone else emerges as a new favorite.
Michael
on April 19, 2006 at 8:52 am
Probably because damn ESPN is too busy reporting about Barry Bonds. I think I’m going to puke if I have to listen to Pedro Gomez again because the dude seems to have his head up Bonds’ rear. I watched the Mets post game last night and didn’t know the Braves score yrt because I was out but it felt good when it ended with the trio (which included Ron Darling) saying the one thing they learned tonight was you can never count out the Braves.
jac holtzman
on April 19, 2006 at 8:58 am
Not to be spell check police, but fellas…..
Ridalyn?
genetalia?
On a related note, Peter Tomarken, RIP. My friend claims to have seen his plane go down. I was hoping he would star with Bill Murray in the “Press Your Luck” movie, but now it won’t happen.
As for last night, my cable provider who shall remain lame didn’t carry it, so I had to endure Baseball Tonight’s toned-down version. Believe me, had it been 7-1 Mets yesterday Peter Gammons would have sported a Davey Johnson mask and Mets codpiece while taunting us with the chop. As it happened, we got a 10 second highlight reel of AJ’s bombs and almost no mention of Davies, how rocks btw.
No call-ups mentioned in the Braves Press Pass. I guess the team is going to play short-handed. Call-ups are not always listed in this brief, but since Marcus’s injury was known so early last night I suspect they would have had time to add a blurb about a new player.
csg
on April 19, 2006 at 9:34 am
Atlantabraves.com said Hudson will be short handed today. Jones, Renteria, and Giles will all be on the bench today. Huddy better bring his “A” game
John in Austin
on April 19, 2006 at 9:35 am
May not have had time to get someone up to New York in time for game, since it’s an early start.
Wryn
on April 19, 2006 at 9:42 am
Day game after a night game – even with the off day tomorrow, we might have Pratt behind the dish.
Todd Pratt, Pete Orr, Wilson Betemit, Tony Pena, Tim Hudson account for over half our lineup?
Haha, if we win today it’s nothing short of amazing.
csg
on April 19, 2006 at 9:51 am
what if Bobby uses this Line-up against Glavine and we can somehow pull it off.
Orr
Betemit
Francouer
Jones
Jordan
Pratt
Diaz
Pena
Hudson
We all know that he will load up w/ right handers today. Our lineup could be very interesting today.
The R-Braves are playing in Buffalo, so I think getting a player there would not have been too hard. But, then again, who would they grab?
Alex R.
on April 19, 2006 at 10:02 am
Wryn,
To be fair here, I don’t see why you are “lumping” Wilson Betemit in with that group. The guy is a hitting stud and if we weren’t so stubborn about not teaching the kid first base, we could have his hot bat in there for 162, if we wanted.
Betemit has the bat of a starting hitter.
Yes, R.I.P., Peter Tomarken. I hope you didn’t get any whammies on the way to heaven.
With regards to Dix’s comments about ESPN’s love fest for those teams, AMEN BROTHER.
The one that irks me beyond reason is Ohio State. They love that damned school. And it’s why I hate them.
As a Georgia fan, I cannot get the stench of ESPN’s coverage in 2003 when all they did was talk about the Ohio State LUCKEYES and stopped mentioning Georgia all together even with our 1 loss and the fact that we were 3rd in the BCS. Ohioe State lucked into half their wins and that should have been our year. The most agaonizing year I can remember as a Dawg fan.
Plus, had all the Maurice Clarett stink and all the scandal that was attached to it with boosters, fake grades, hummers and all the Buckeyes that were in and out of jail been say attached to an SEC school, ESPN would have filtered Andrea Kremer or Pedro Gomez or Mark Schwartz to said SEC campus to cover what an illegal operation was being run.
Because the SEC is in the south (like the Braves) the anti souther bias never ever ends and it makes me sick to my stomach.
Ohioe State and their lying leaders A.D., Andy Geiger, got a clean break on the entire coverage with NO NCAA VIOLATIONS HANDED DOWN despite all the evidence connected with the Clarett scandal and other players too who admitted wrongdoings.
Alabama, Auburb, Georgia, South Carolina…when an SEC school does something wrong, theres coverage and a punishment. Fair or unfair, that’s the way it is. Ohio State? They got a free pass.
Makes me sick. Like apparently, if you are in the Big 10, it’s impossible to be guilty of anything because only people with southern accents are bad or evil, according to ESPn. We’re just a bunch of reguionalized, redneck hicks who sleep with their cousins. But Ohio State…little angels.
Just makes me sick and I LOATHE Ohio State for that reason. They are the poster children (along with Duke, the Yankees, Mets and Red Sox, USC, the Lakers) for everything that is absolutely wrong with ESPN.
Mickey Mouse can shove his biased coverage up his a–.
Go Braves and go Dawgs. Long live the SEC.
Tennessee Brave
on April 19, 2006 at 10:09 am
Dix, I agree with all of your teams, but you left out one biggie: USC football. ESPN slurps them like none other. Remember last season when they had the special segment where Mark May and Kirk Herbstreit discussed potential matchups between USC and the greatest college football teams of all time? Then USC proceeded to lose to Texas. That was pretty funny.
justin
on April 19, 2006 at 10:12 am
There is one thing that I have never quite understood in Fandom, and that is being proud of the success of the conference your team is in, even if your team stinks. Its a little stupid isn’t it?
Kyle S
on April 19, 2006 at 10:15 am
The R-Braves are playing in Buffalo, so I think getting a player there would not have been too hard. But, then again, who would they grab?
If I were the Braves, I’d have them literally “grab” Andy Marte from the opposing dugout. The Mets have probably forgotten about the trade already, right? I’m sure Andy would be happy to play in the bigs no matter what uni he was wearing. The trick will be to keep the Indians from finding out.
doubledawg
on April 19, 2006 at 10:22 am
I too love the Dawgs and the Braves. Seeing Will Startup with 9K/6IP, 0ER, warms the heart. I just hope he carried the banner higher than Jeff Treadway.
ermoore
on April 19, 2006 at 10:23 am
Alex R. and Dix, I agree completely with almost everything you said, but don’t forget to add USC to the list. ESPN, for whatever reasons, really doesn’t give the SEC the same coverage the Big 10, ACC, and Pac-10 get. I still can’t stand the Sports Reporters, on account of the crap they pulled against Manning in the Heisman race (well, and cause they just suck in general), nor will I ever forgive Michigan or Woodson. Alright, that’s enough, this topic just riles me up and keeps me from accomplishing anything else the rest of the day.
bmac
on April 19, 2006 at 10:29 am
Going back to Alex R’s comment about the Mets announcers. I also had an opportunity to watch the Mets telecast, and was impressed by the impartiality they all showed. Darling was very complimentary regarding Davies pitching in particular. Also, like everyone else here, I’m very disappointed about ESPN’s bias towards any New York team.
Smitty
on April 19, 2006 at 10:36 am
I just want to know where NY METS has been.
ermoore
on April 19, 2006 at 10:38 am
On a more Braves baseball-related note, I’m not terribly optimistic about today’s game. Even without an infield of Betemit-Orr-Pena, the new-sucky-Hudson versus the old-rejuvenated-Glavine really worries me.
Here’s hopin’ we keep it close and just absolutely destroy Wagner in the 9th. I’ll take a win no matter who’s pitching, but that would just really make my day.
csg
on April 19, 2006 at 10:46 am
Today’s Lineup: God Help Us!
Orr
Betemit
Diaz
Jones
Francouer
Jordan
Pratt
Pena
Hudson
Andruw and the Seven Dwarfs, huh? Well, that’s not fair to Betemit, but still.
JoshQ
on April 19, 2006 at 11:03 am
What’s the over under for amount of time it’ll take NYMETS to show up from under his desk should his Mets win today?
John in Austin
on April 19, 2006 at 11:07 am
This could be ugly today.
On another note, the Astros got back to .500 as a franchise last night, for the first time since their 6th game ever (back in ’62). The article said 13 teams in MLB were at .500 or over, and Atlanta wasn’t listed.
Now, I knew they were very bad, back when I started watching them in the early 80’s, but I didn’t know much about the earlier days of the franchise. It took some digging, but it looks like they are about 30 games under .500 or so (the record I found is a few days out of date, and I’m not sure what was updated).
I’m surprised that the main MLB home page didn’t have this info. The Press Pass for today notes that they have had the best record in the majors since ’91 (1438-939), but I also found something else saying they had the worst record in the majors for their first 25 years in Atlanta – from ’66 to 90.
Anyway, the point is that if they have a good year, they might reach the .500 point themselves sometime this season, and that’s pretty cool.
csg
on April 19, 2006 at 11:08 am
I hear that Sid Bream is also available for today’s game – maybe Ricky Henderson will pinch run for David Wright during the game as well
JoshQ
on April 19, 2006 at 11:18 am
I actually think we should activate Glenn Hubbard. We could let Pena be the 1st base coach for today. Just move Betemit to short, Orr to 3rd, and Hubbard at 2nd. That is probably better than what we’re gonna have so I say give it a try.
csg
on April 19, 2006 at 11:31 am
? Beltran, Floyd, Hernandez miss Mets’ loss to Braves
this is what Fox sports shows as the title to this article. I think it should say
The Braves destroyed the Mets without Jones or Renteria
Another Alex R.
on April 19, 2006 at 11:33 am
Anderson Hernandez is a rookie who can’t hit–losing him is not exactly tragic.
If they’re going to count that among the Mets’ losses, they should mention that we’re without Kelly Johnson.
justin
on April 19, 2006 at 11:35 am
Speaking of NYMETS, that fact that he hasn’t shown up after last night says all I need to know about him and mets fans in general.
ububba
on April 19, 2006 at 11:37 am
That’s a brutal lineup, but y’never know. I’m not giving up this game either.
Alex,
I work very closely with an Ohio State grad & I ride him mercilessly about how, historically, the SEC has dominated the Big 10. It’s something like 35-18 all-time in bowl games (last year was 2-2).
The reason why SEC people love the SEC is because, over time, it’s proven to be the best football conference in America. Why wouldn’t its members enjoy its success? Out of the 12 current SEC schools, there are only a couple (you know who you are) that haven’t had some stretch of success. I believe there are some other sociological reasons why it matters so much to so many people in SEC-Land, but the point is: Who doesn’t like a winner?
However, I will be the last person to think that everyone in our conference has clean hands. UGA has dodged a few probation bullets itself (Fred Davison, Jan Kemp in football; Cedric Henderson, Elmore Spencer & Jim Harrick in basketball). There’s no such thing as a completely clean program in big-time college football.
FYI – I’m listening to the Willie Randolph pre-game right now & he’s making excuses for Zambrano and whining about the Mets’ injuries. Wait ’til he see’s our lineup. He & Glavine should be licking their chops.
Stu
on April 19, 2006 at 11:42 am
Yeah, I know who I am. Vandy was good in the 1930s, though….
Nick
on April 19, 2006 at 11:44 am
The most hilarious thing about ESPN as regards Braves coverage is the fact that they’re always at least three days behind whatever’s going on at the moment with the team. After the first couple of games, they were still talking about the Braves and the Mets were not going to be stopped, blah blah blah…meanwhile, our pitching was sucking and there didn’t appear to be any mention of it whatsoever. I was stunned. However, then by that weekend, they were talking about how bad our pitching was as if they had just discovered it and were the first people ever to so much as mention it. Now, they’re all still saying that the Braves will be in trouble if they don’t get their pitching in order, without so much as an “oh by the way, they have gotten really good pitching performances three out of the last four outings. Maybe it’s starting to turn around.” They’re still talking about it like we’re still in the middle of last week or something. However, they seem to be completely up to date on what the Mets and Yankees and Red Sox are doing.
And I’m not even really gonna get into how ridiculous ESPN’s coverage of the whole Barry Bonds situation has been, becuase I could actually be typing for an hour. I will say this though. On one side, you have an entity that seems to think of itself as some form of a news organization…sports news, but still news. On the other hand, you have the most highly publicized participant in the biggest sports scandal in years. You have a book proving that said participant did steroids. So what do you do? Do you investigate the claims in the book in depth? Do you do a little investigative journalism your own, upset the someone else broke this story and not you? No, apparently not. And not only do you refuse to do this, but you let the highly-publicized participant CONTROL ALL OF YOUR NEWS COVERAGE ON THE TOPIC and continue to frame the debate the same way you did before this proof came out. Now that’s good journalism right there. (OK, so I did get into it a little bit. I could have gone a whole lot deeper, trust me. As a journalism student, the entire thing really pisses me off.)
ububba
on April 19, 2006 at 11:53 am
ESPN is more about branding & selling fried food in their crappy ESPN Zones than journalism. They haven’t done that in a long time. The appearance of conflict of interest is something they obviously don’t worry about.
However, I could care less what their talking heads or “experts” ever say. To me, ESPN’s only “in-house expert” that I really enjoy is Barry Melrose, and that’s because I’m a card-carrying member of the North American Hockey Cult. He knows what he’s talking about & he doesn’t pull punches in his commentary, like some of the ex-MLB guys do.
Bottom Line: ESPN has been a joke for a long time.
clarke
on April 19, 2006 at 11:58 am
can anybody lead me to a radio station website that is covering the game? thanks
John in Austin
on April 19, 2006 at 12:01 pm
WGST may have a free feed up, but doubt it will last the whole game. I’m listening to their feed via the MLB Gameday Audio package.
justin
on April 19, 2006 at 12:01 pm
ububba,
I understand what you are saying about the conference thing, but if you are a fan of a school like Vanderbilt, how do you get satisfaction by seeing your conference do well. Is it supposed to validate why your team still sucks?
ububba
on April 19, 2006 at 12:05 pm
Beats me, ask Stu.
JJ
on April 19, 2006 at 12:06 pm
I guess I am one of the rare “Northern” Braves fans, who also happens to be a Buckeye, and without getting into a pissing match with Alex R., it is interesting to get different perspective on things. Buckeye fans think the worst of ESPN – recall the Tom Friend article in the Magazine about Clarett, a couple of ESPN stunts for College GameDay, etc. In our minds, ESPN is worthless and out to get the Buckeyes, yet in Alex R.’s opinion, that couldn’t be further from the truth. Buckeye fans are as quick to point out SEC faults (thank you, ububba) and ask why ESPN doesn’t pay attention as you SEC guys are to point to the Buckeyes.
So, let’s agree that big time college football is full of “gray”, and ESPN sucks!!
Now, on to the game…
John in Austin
on April 19, 2006 at 12:09 pm
Wow, listening to Joe (?) reading off the lineup makes it sound even worse than seeing up above in print.
Although, aside from Mets 3-4-5, none of them are very impressive, and I’m not sure Nady is for real yet.
John in Austin
on April 19, 2006 at 12:11 pm
Obviously no one has explained to Orr that leadoff hitters are supposed to take pitches.
Another Alex R.
on April 19, 2006 at 12:12 pm
Mac said the game thread would be late. So I guess this is the place to note that Glavine’s looking good. Although Pete Orr, Wilson Betemit, and Matt Diaz sure didn’t make him try very hard.
Work the count, guys! Please!
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 12:13 pm
Just got it…is Bobby still in spring training?
John in Austin
on April 19, 2006 at 12:13 pm
Wow, 6 pitches, 3 outs. Nice job working the count.
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 12:14 pm
Pete Orr is not a leadoff hitter. He’s not a 3rd baseman either. He’s a bad utility player that we have to see until Renteria gets back.
Another Alex R.
on April 19, 2006 at 12:15 pm
He’s not a terrible utility player… he’s just worse than Wilson Betemit in every way. Basically, he’s Nick Green, but we won’t be able to trade him to Tampa Bay.
John in Austin
on April 19, 2006 at 12:17 pm
At least he made a decent defensive play, from the sound of it.
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 12:18 pm
He’s terrible in the sense that he can do a lot of things, but none particularly well.
Brian Peace
on April 19, 2006 at 12:18 pm
ughh that infield looks terrible. Guess the great day for larchoe last night earns him the bench today.. nice.
Another Alex R.
on April 19, 2006 at 12:18 pm
Huddy looked really nice that inning. Getting ahead of hitters and no one’s putting good swings on the ball. Just got Delgado to roll out weakly.
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 12:21 pm
tom glavine might throw a 50-pitch complete game today.
justin
on April 19, 2006 at 12:21 pm
I though the game was on wgst online, but i guess not
Another Alex R.
on April 19, 2006 at 12:21 pm
But Jeff Francouer ends the perfect game.
John in Austin
on April 19, 2006 at 12:21 pm
Too bad too, because in his career against Glavine, he went 3 for 4 with a 2b & a HR, along with 2 walks.
Jeez, another 1st pitch swing. At least Jeffie took a pitch, and as I type this, got a hit!
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 12:22 pm
Jordan tried so hard to hit into a double play. Maybe next time, Brian.
Another Alex R.
on April 19, 2006 at 12:23 pm
Good God… it looks like we won’t be getting 10 runs off this guy again. I guess there’s a reason he’ll be in the Hall of Fame.
John in Austin
on April 19, 2006 at 12:24 pm
Just wow – someone finally took pitches, 3 called strikes.
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 12:25 pm
I can’t even complain about what these guys are doing. None of them should even be in the game. And you’re seeing why.
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 12:27 pm
Good thing Hudson’s sharp today.
dean
on April 19, 2006 at 12:27 pm
For having the best start in team history, the Mets fans sure are quick to jeer their own team. I was at the game last night, and all I heard was “Boo.” No wonder Beltran hates it here.
Also, they booed Andruw every time he came up. Not that I was expecting class from Mets fans, but it’s not like he’s John Rocker. He just hits monster, monster home runs.
Another Alex R.
on April 19, 2006 at 12:27 pm
Whoo! Hudson just made David Wright look SILLY. His pitches are darting, his sinkers are sinking, and his control is looking good so far. Here’s hoping we’ll see more of this guy.
John in Austin
on April 19, 2006 at 12:27 pm
Ya got that right, Brad.
jenny
on April 19, 2006 at 12:30 pm
I swear this Mets announcer was on MASN last year. And he was awful. Looks like some things don’t change.
So will this be a pitcher’s duel because our pitcher is good and our lineup sucks or because both pitchers are good?
Another Alex R.
on April 19, 2006 at 12:30 pm
Pitch counts through two innings: Hudson 21, Glavine 13.
Stu
on April 19, 2006 at 12:30 pm
Don’t you think that’s logical, justin? Do you really think Vanderbilt would have played its last bowl game in 1982 if we played in Conference USA? Regardless of one’s team’s talents, I think you have to like it when it is shown that the conference it plays in is the toughest. Whatever level of success one’s team has in that conference is much more respectable than similar success (or lack thereof) in a weaker conference. At least that’s what I tell myself to be able to sleep at night.
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 12:32 pm
Tony Pena must feel like the luckiest guy alive.
John in Austin
on April 19, 2006 at 12:33 pm
Jenny, I think it will be a duel from a little bit of both reasons. (and Brad, I meant you were right on both of your posts before that one!)
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 12:34 pm
Glavine’s blazing 76-mph pitches are mesmerizing every hitter…ridiculous
Another Alex R.
on April 19, 2006 at 12:35 pm
The definition of irony: Tony Pena has had the longest at-bat of the day.
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 12:35 pm
I’m sorry, I know y’all love him, but Pete Orr is awful.
clarke
on April 19, 2006 at 12:35 pm
sportsradio910.com is carrying the braves right now, its coming in nice and clear…you have to sign up for the site though, its quick and easy
kc
on April 19, 2006 at 12:36 pm
Did I say Pete Orr suck?
ice
on April 19, 2006 at 12:36 pm
sorry pete, but im a left hand hitter and im pretty sure i could have AT LEAST put one of those pitches in play
Another Alex R.
on April 19, 2006 at 12:37 pm
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Mike Clay
on April 19, 2006 at 12:37 pm
The Richmond game is live for free on minorleaguebaseball.com for anyone interested in the young guys.
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 12:40 pm
Don’t need the richmond game…we have plenty of minor leaguers there in NY.
Adam
on April 19, 2006 at 12:41 pm
Greetings everyone. All of a suddent it seems like old times… the Braves in a pitching duel.
ububba
on April 19, 2006 at 12:41 pm
Last night’s game was 2:09 in length.
At this rate with these sad lineups & these pitchers dealing like they are, today’s game could be sub-2-hours.
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 12:42 pm
1 run’s going to win this game, I predict…come on Druw, go yard
Stu
on April 19, 2006 at 12:42 pm
I’m not sure I’d call it a pitching duel. Maybe an inept-hitting duel.
John in Austin
on April 19, 2006 at 12:43 pm
Howdy Adam – more like a “swing & miss” duel, but same effect. 🙂
Hudson very sharp so far.
ice
on April 19, 2006 at 12:43 pm
i agree ububba, except i would say hudson is dealing…glavine is just throwing hittable strikes, and we happen to have 5 pitchers in the lineup today
ububba
on April 19, 2006 at 12:44 pm
If you say so…
I’m not watching; I’m listening at work.
Another Alex R.
on April 19, 2006 at 12:44 pm
Ice, Glavine always threw hittable pitches, just never when the hitters wanted them… he’s changing speeds nicely today, and that curveball’s good.
jenny
on April 19, 2006 at 12:46 pm
Did anyone else on MLB.TV just lose the feed?
ice
on April 19, 2006 at 12:47 pm
this is the second time for me already jenny
jenny
on April 19, 2006 at 12:47 pm
The technical stuff with that has been really bad this year.
ermoore
on April 19, 2006 at 12:47 pm
Jenny, I keep losing it the last two or three commercials. I just reload from the “Today” tab and it works fine till the next break.
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 12:48 pm
i love how mets fans clap at a pitch to andruw’s head.
Dix
on April 19, 2006 at 12:49 pm
Diaz just swing at 5 or 6 pitches, one of which was a strike. Glavine only threw him one hittable ball, i think
Mike Clay
on April 19, 2006 at 12:50 pm
Haha. 371 foot broken bat flyout just a few feet away from a homer for Marte.
DougM
on April 19, 2006 at 12:50 pm
Have the Braves ever started a worse lineup than the one they have today? Not just since the run began–ever? Even during the bleakest years there were mostly decent majorleague hitters up and down the order. Not today.
ice
on April 19, 2006 at 12:51 pm
i change my mind AAR, that sequence against andruw was excellent from glavine…i wonder what kind of discount he would take to come home next year…Smoltz, Hudson, Glavine, Davies, Hampton would be formidable
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 12:52 pm
I think, based on the combination of players, this is the worst lineup possible. Seriously.
Nick
on April 19, 2006 at 12:52 pm
So how long do you suppose we can go scoreless in this thing with the two terrible lineups? I’m gonna go with 15 innings.
ububba
on April 19, 2006 at 12:53 pm
At some point the Mets would have to bring in Jorge Julio.
Dix
on April 19, 2006 at 12:53 pm
First mistake loses this game.
Whichever team scores first will be the first to get to the other team’s bullpen, from there, its all over.
Nick
on April 19, 2006 at 12:53 pm
Yeah, that is true. If that happens, maybe we’ll actually get a runner to third.
Mike Clay
on April 19, 2006 at 12:54 pm
If anything, a perfect game for Hudson to gain some momentum
Nice play Tony Junior.
Nick
on April 19, 2006 at 12:54 pm
Well, at least he can play defense.
ububba
on April 19, 2006 at 12:54 pm
How weird did that Pena catch look?
Another Alex R.
on April 19, 2006 at 12:55 pm
Holy shit! Nice play, Tony Pena!
By the way, today’s AFLAC trivia question on the Mets TV network, which we can use as a future Fun Mets Fact:
Who has managed the most games against the Mets?
Answer: Bobby Cox, 267 games, with a record of 149-118. (.558)
Mike Clay
on April 19, 2006 at 12:56 pm
HAHA. Buffalo’s catcher just drilled Scott Thorman with a ball trying to throw to second base. Thorman was in the batters box….just wow….
ice
on April 19, 2006 at 12:56 pm
if anything its taken hudson fewer pitches to get delgado than glavine to get andruw so far
I’m late to the party, but I would like to say I think it’s a bit odd that LaRoche is sitting after his great day yesterday … lefty on the mound, and all, but still …
ububba
on April 19, 2006 at 12:58 pm
No time for little-ball now, not with Pratt & Pena coming up.
Be a Met-Killer, Brian…
ice
on April 19, 2006 at 12:58 pm
that was a base hit LOL
Adam
on April 19, 2006 at 12:58 pm
time to engineer a run.
jenny
on April 19, 2006 at 12:58 pm
Mets announcer: “Francouer is not a base stealer.”
Hmmm. With his speed, I think he could be.
John in Austin
on April 19, 2006 at 12:58 pm
Jordan will bounce into a double play, I have confidence in him.
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 12:59 pm
I love Brian Jordan.
Adam
on April 19, 2006 at 1:00 pm
we all love Jordan. he’s just so amazing.
Another Alex R.
on April 19, 2006 at 1:00 pm
I think Bobby’s giving his starters a Sunday special today because it’s a day game after a night game.
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 1:00 pm
Isn’t tomorrow an off day?
jenny
on April 19, 2006 at 1:00 pm
I take it back.
John in Austin
on April 19, 2006 at 1:00 pm
Guess the announcer was right. Or that was a bad hit & run attempt.
Adam
on April 19, 2006 at 1:01 pm
the Mets fans are so psychotic.
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 1:02 pm
Wouldn’t you be if you were getting no-hit?
Nick
on April 19, 2006 at 1:03 pm
Well, I guess we can’t expect the Mets official scorekeeper to know anymore about the game than the average Mets fan.
ice
on April 19, 2006 at 1:03 pm
i cant seem to figure pratt out, i know hes had few at bats so far this season but i thought he had somethin like a .950-1.000 career OPS against lefties…he just doesnt look like he hits the ball hard at all
Adam
on April 19, 2006 at 1:05 pm
No, but I would probably be a little off if I lived on Long Island.
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 1:06 pm
I can figure Pratt out…he’s a backup catcher.
Maxwn
on April 19, 2006 at 1:07 pm
Damn, Hudson is just wicked today. 15 down, 12 to go.
John in Austin
on April 19, 2006 at 1:07 pm
Nice!
Mike Clay
on April 19, 2006 at 1:08 pm
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Nick
on April 19, 2006 at 1:08 pm
We had damn well better score a run somewhere along the way. How embarrassing would it be if Hudson threw a no-hitter and we haven’t score a run?
Another Alex R.
on April 19, 2006 at 1:08 pm
I can’t wait to hear Alex R. after this game. It looks like he may have to lay off Adam LaRoche and Hudson at the same time.
Diaz just threw a rope from 200 feet away and nailed the runner at home. Jordan couldn’t throw it 25 feet to 2nd base.
basil
on April 19, 2006 at 1:20 pm
Where the hell did that throw come from?
Came out of left field, my friend! : >)
kc
on April 19, 2006 at 1:21 pm
Brian Jordan sucks in everything he does.
ice
on April 19, 2006 at 1:21 pm
friggin mlb tv delay, i thought you were being sarcastic for sure aar
b-rule™
on April 19, 2006 at 1:21 pm
Wow, Game is coming on in leaps and bounds.
I’m sure Hudson likes to have a strong sense of rivalry.
Adam
on April 19, 2006 at 1:22 pm
I didn’t see the throw; only have the game on the radio. The deafening silence from Shea sounded so lovely…
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 1:22 pm
I’m sorry, Tom Glavine is not this good.
Adam
on April 19, 2006 at 1:23 pm
yeah really… what gotten into Glavine and Maddux this year? with the ways these guys throw, they’ll be pitching forever.
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 1:24 pm
HELL YES
Mike Clay
on April 19, 2006 at 1:24 pm
That’s my boyyyyyyyyyy
Another Alex R.
on April 19, 2006 at 1:24 pm
Now THAT’S an MVP!!!
Nick
on April 19, 2006 at 1:24 pm
Andruw!!!
dean
on April 19, 2006 at 1:24 pm
YES!
Maxwn
on April 19, 2006 at 1:24 pm
There it is!
Grst
on April 19, 2006 at 1:24 pm
You think Andruw will have a kid named Shea?
ububba
on April 19, 2006 at 1:25 pm
Andruw!
John in Austin
on April 19, 2006 at 1:25 pm
BAM!
Mike Clay
on April 19, 2006 at 1:25 pm
Wait a second, Andruw just went the other way…WOW
kc
on April 19, 2006 at 1:25 pm
MVP!!!!!!!!!!
Dix
on April 19, 2006 at 1:25 pm
YEA!
ermoore
on April 19, 2006 at 1:25 pm
AWESOME!! Andruw is just sick right now!
Big D
on April 19, 2006 at 1:25 pm
New Met Killer!! Andruwwww!!!!
LatNam
on April 19, 2006 at 1:25 pm
Andruw~!
kc
on April 19, 2006 at 1:25 pm
Frenchy!!!
David Remy
on April 19, 2006 at 1:25 pm
Rudolph!
John in Austin
on April 19, 2006 at 1:26 pm
And Frenchy goes 3 for 3 (okay, the Mets score it an error). You’d think they would protect their 3rd baseman on stuff like that.
ice
on April 19, 2006 at 1:26 pm
now if andruw was pujols in that situation…they would have walked him…he still doesnt get enough respect
Matt
on April 19, 2006 at 1:26 pm
Dont worry, we have Jordan to kill the rally
Grst
on April 19, 2006 at 1:26 pm
Joe Simpson is ripping the scorekeeper. Get em Joe!
Nick
on April 19, 2006 at 1:27 pm
LOL…what the hell is the Mets scorer smoking? Let me get this straight: Somebody throws a ball into the stands when a good throw gets him and it’s a hit; smash one that takes a bad hop off a guy’s chest and it’s an error. Makes sense to me.
Adam
on April 19, 2006 at 1:27 pm
Andruw’s late game adjustments at the plate this series have been amazing. the MVP race this year is getting off to a torrid start…
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 1:27 pm
They showed the scorer on TV…he didn’t exactly look all there
b-rule™
on April 19, 2006 at 1:28 pm
ANDRUW?.?
John in Austin
on April 19, 2006 at 1:30 pm
Come on Pratt, you’ve hit Glavine before, get him! (308/550/462 vs Glavine lifetime)
Nick
on April 19, 2006 at 1:31 pm
Yep…he’s a backup catcher, alright.
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 1:32 pm
At least swing…goodness.
Mike Clay
on April 19, 2006 at 1:32 pm
This is great. A 1-0 lead for the Braves on TBS and a really good 2-2 Richomond-Buffalo game on milb.com
Mike Clay
on April 19, 2006 at 1:33 pm
Richmond*
Stu
on April 19, 2006 at 1:34 pm
What’s great is Andruw Freaking Jones. He’s just sick. And he’s still just 28.
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 1:34 pm
Last 15 innings, Braves starters given up 4 hits
Big D
on April 19, 2006 at 1:34 pm
Flashin’ the leather!
ububba
on April 19, 2006 at 1:34 pm
Are we liking Lil’ Tony Pena now?
mathew f.
on April 19, 2006 at 1:34 pm
Pena needs to stay over Orr. he is faster and a much better defensive player.
Mike Clay
on April 19, 2006 at 1:34 pm
Pena might be right. We might see him on sportscenter….top plays
John in Austin
on April 19, 2006 at 1:34 pm
This will be the toughest inning right here – if Huddy gets through this unscathed, game over.
Maxwn
on April 19, 2006 at 1:35 pm
Tony Pena, Jr. is doing everything you need to do if you are a no-hit defensive sub shortstop. He’s at least got that going for him.
ububba
on April 19, 2006 at 1:35 pm
Orr is a good bench player to have, so don’t go crazy.
I love Hudson’s reaction to Pena’s nice play there. Excellent.
Maxwn
on April 19, 2006 at 1:37 pm
Yeah, wait just a second before you start saying Pena should replace Orr. He may be better defensively, but he still can’t hit worth a damn. At least Orr can get the odd single here and there. And it’s not like Orr is a defensive scrub anyway.
Maxwn
on April 19, 2006 at 1:39 pm
There we go. This is the Hudson we need to have this year.
Matt
on April 19, 2006 at 1:39 pm
there ya go!
John in Austin
on April 19, 2006 at 1:39 pm
Getting dangerous now, come out GIDP.
John in Austin
on April 19, 2006 at 1:40 pm
Hey-hey, sometimes you get what you ask for!
kc
on April 19, 2006 at 1:40 pm
I am starting to like little Pena…that first out play is very impressive.
mathew f.
on April 19, 2006 at 1:41 pm
Orr is a defensive scrub. He is a miserable infielder who cant play SS(did you see the WBC).
Pena is extremely fast, and can play all three infield spots. Neither can hit worth a damn. Who would you rather have?
Matt
on April 19, 2006 at 1:41 pm
laroche’s career against glavine:
.750 .833 1.750 2.583
Hm. Maybe you’re right. I thought Orr’s minor league numbers were pretty good, but they’re just .265 .317 .340. Still better than Pena’s.
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 1:47 pm
So you can hit .265 in the minors and get called up? Amazing.
Mike Clay
on April 19, 2006 at 1:47 pm
Hmm. Steve Karsay on the mound for Buffalo…
Seems just yesterday we traded John Rocker for him and Steve Reed.
Big D
on April 19, 2006 at 1:48 pm
Man, we get what we ask for, huh? Double play? Done. Another E by Wright? Done. I wonder what else we could get
Maxwn
on April 19, 2006 at 1:49 pm
Mathew F., I would rather have Orr. That was my point. He can’t play short extremely well, but he is above-average at third and second. And while neither one is a good hitter, Orr is at least passable. He hit .300 in 150 ABs last year. Mostly singles, but that’s enough to make him a decent utility infielder. Tony Pena is not even that. He’s a nice defensive player, but he can’t hit. Not can’t hit as in can’t hit well. Can’t hit as in can’t hit, period. All that said, I am still kind of rooting for Pena, because he seems to play hard, and he at least hasn’t been any worse than what we expected.
David Remy
on April 19, 2006 at 1:49 pm
Langerhans in for Diaz in left.
Dix
on April 19, 2006 at 1:49 pm
i dont want the pen to get ahold of this one. come on tim!
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 1:50 pm
Well, in this lineup, we don’t need Pena to hit. If he’s in the game, we should be up or down a ton anyway. As long as he’s not kicking the ball around, he’s fine.
John in Austin
on April 19, 2006 at 1:50 pm
Brad, he didn’t get called up for his bat. He’s up for his speed and ability to play multiple positions.
Big D, I’d like to ask for Hudson to mow down the rest of the lineup to get the 1-hitter.
Orr was like .320 last year at Richmond. Maybe more. He had a great AAA year last year (like KJ), and a pretty good ML year (like KJ).
ububba
on April 19, 2006 at 1:50 pm
This game is far from over, but it’s amazing how we just call up guys like Pena and they contribute.
Smitty
on April 19, 2006 at 1:50 pm
So does this mean we are the world champs now?
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 1:51 pm
Orr was in the majors last year
Big D
on April 19, 2006 at 1:51 pm
81 pitches thru 8. Nice.
Matt
on April 19, 2006 at 1:51 pm
This is the kinda game where Bobby will put in his relievers and give some sorry excuse like “they havent worked much lately” and “they needed the work” im afraid we’ll see reitsma…
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 1:52 pm
If Cox takes Hudson out, I will never watch another game again.
mathew f.
on April 19, 2006 at 1:53 pm
When I watched Orr in spring ball, his defense was shaky. It was shaky in the WBC and even yesterday he misplayed a ball while at third. It wasnt an error, but a good 3b would have made the play. He isnt a passable defender.
Adam
on April 19, 2006 at 1:53 pm
I agree. There’s more ways to help a team win than by hitting. It takes defense, doing the little things, and being a bit lucky. Pena has helped put the Braves in a position to win today, and all that matters at the end of each day is getting the W. With only two starters in the game today, the Braves have a shot to beat a good team. Let’s get the win.
kc
on April 19, 2006 at 1:53 pm
Not today Matt. Bobby will keep Huddy out there today.
John in Austin
on April 19, 2006 at 1:53 pm
Glavine out for Heilman.
ice
on April 19, 2006 at 1:53 pm
surely not on 81 pitches he wont…and on a side note im happy we havent seen reitsma in any pointless situations this year, maybe bobby has finally learned to conserve him. although he has burned cormier this year even though thats what arizona did to kill him last year
Big D
on April 19, 2006 at 1:54 pm
No way Huddy comes out. After 81 pitches of dominance? We’re about to get our 2nd straight CG.
Nick
on April 19, 2006 at 1:54 pm
Yay!
Matt
on April 19, 2006 at 1:54 pm
Your last name isn’t Laroche, is it?
“there’s more ways to help a team win than by hitting”
ububba
on April 19, 2006 at 1:54 pm
Through 8, Hudson has 81 pitches. I doubt he’s doing anywhere.
Adam
on April 19, 2006 at 1:55 pm
yep. I’m posting from the dugout. life as a ballplayer is awsome.
Big D
on April 19, 2006 at 1:55 pm
speaking of LaRoche…
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 1:56 pm
Thomson was at 74 through 7 I think sunday.
Adam
on April 19, 2006 at 1:56 pm
all that said, i can’t stand a lack of patience at the plate.
Mike Clay
on April 19, 2006 at 1:56 pm
Baseball is much more than hitting…..
Matt
on April 19, 2006 at 1:56 pm
i think it was 63 through 6
Big D
on April 19, 2006 at 1:57 pm
Thomson only went 6 and I’m still mad about that game
Adam
on April 19, 2006 at 1:57 pm
evidently, Reitsma is up in the pen… ugh.
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 1:57 pm
My point is, you never know with Cox. He does weird things.
korobeiniki
on April 19, 2006 at 1:57 pm
it looks like it might be three wins on the season for braves pitchers, all CGs.
ice
on April 19, 2006 at 1:57 pm
thomson was at 74 through 6…but he was in the bullpen to start the year and didnt have all of his stamina..i believe he told bobby he was gassed
Mike M.
on April 19, 2006 at 1:58 pm
Through the 8th inning here if you look at the last run through the rotation, the Braves starter’s ERA is 1.00 and their WHIP is 0.83 over 36 innings. Take out Sosa’s start and the ERA for the 4 remaining starters is 0.00 and the WHIP is 0.66. Need to keep that rolling……
Hmmm, guess that was 2004 for Orr. I thought he got called up, but I guess he got ignored that year and made it in ST the next.
ububba
on April 19, 2006 at 1:59 pm
Day off tomorrow. I hope it doesn’t happen, but Bobby may stick with Huddy until he gives up a baserunner.
John in Austin
on April 19, 2006 at 2:00 pm
Unless Hudson asks out, I just can’t see Cox costing him a chance at the shutout.
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 2:00 pm
I hope he stays with Hudson until he gives up 2 runs
Matt
on April 19, 2006 at 2:00 pm
i can see cox doing almost anything
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 2:01 pm
Julio…he looks weird in a Mets uniform. Hope the extra money was worth it.
Adam
on April 19, 2006 at 2:01 pm
looks like Hudson. must avoid Delgado here.
Smitty
on April 19, 2006 at 2:02 pm
I wonder if Harold Reynolds is going to talk about how great the Braves are now. I bet he still gives the Mets props.
J Leeds (oi!)
on April 19, 2006 at 2:03 pm
Mac needs to keep the “I Miss Leo” tag for the rest of the year. Obviously, like last year’s “Trade Furcal”, it triggered something supernatural….
ububba
on April 19, 2006 at 2:03 pm
Yes, must avoid Delgado.
John in Austin
on April 19, 2006 at 2:03 pm
You got that right, Pete!
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 2:03 pm
Anyone know what this has done to Hudson’s ERA?
Dave Laster
on April 19, 2006 at 2:04 pm
5.87 ERA right now…
Adam
on April 19, 2006 at 2:04 pm
it’s now at 5.87.
John in Austin
on April 19, 2006 at 2:04 pm
Brad, current ERA is 5.67.
Stu
on April 19, 2006 at 2:04 pm
Also, Pena is not faster than Orr. Anyone who says that hasn’t seen both of them run.
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 2:04 pm
Thanks
ububba
on April 19, 2006 at 2:04 pm
Well, we’re gonna see Delgado now.
John in Austin
on April 19, 2006 at 2:05 pm
Ah, misread 8 for 6 in that ERA. 🙂
Damn, 1 out double.
Stu
on April 19, 2006 at 2:05 pm
Do we walk Delgado, setting up a hero situation for Wright?
David Remy
on April 19, 2006 at 2:05 pm
Hudson needs to stay cool. Now’s not the time to get flustered, not with the tying run at the plate.
Mike Clay
on April 19, 2006 at 2:05 pm
ARG
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 2:06 pm
aggggh
Stu
on April 19, 2006 at 2:06 pm
Holy crap. I’m scared.
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 2:06 pm
Quit hanging pitches Tim!
ububba
on April 19, 2006 at 2:06 pm
It’s certainly hero time for somebody.
Stu
on April 19, 2006 at 2:06 pm
Well, win or lose, I like that Hudson wants to stay in this game. But I really want to win.
John in Austin
on April 19, 2006 at 2:07 pm
Shutout gone. Probably see Reitsma then, depends on what Hudson says to him.
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 2:07 pm
I just had a minor heart attack.
ububba
on April 19, 2006 at 2:07 pm
That’s 2.
It’s hero-or-goat time for David Wright.
David Remy
on April 19, 2006 at 2:07 pm
He’s in.
Big D
on April 19, 2006 at 2:07 pm
Holy crap that scared me
Matt
on April 19, 2006 at 2:07 pm
that helps
ice
on April 19, 2006 at 2:07 pm
both with 2 strikes ewwww
Big D
on April 19, 2006 at 2:08 pm
Come on, 1 more
John in Austin
on April 19, 2006 at 2:08 pm
Vote Goat!
Matt
on April 19, 2006 at 2:08 pm
3 errors….3 errors…3 errors…
ububba
on April 19, 2006 at 2:08 pm
C’mon, Huddy… one more!
Stu
on April 19, 2006 at 2:08 pm
Please throw it in the dirt.
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 2:09 pm
YES
ububba
on April 19, 2006 at 2:09 pm
Yeah, baby!
Gotta give it to the Auburn guy!
Mike Clay
on April 19, 2006 at 2:09 pm
Yessss. What a game.
Stu
on April 19, 2006 at 2:09 pm
GREAT win. Huge game–and inning–for Hudson.
Big D
on April 19, 2006 at 2:09 pm
Woo-hoo!! Yeah baby!
David Remy
on April 19, 2006 at 2:09 pm
Put him away! Go right after him!
justin
on April 19, 2006 at 2:09 pm
I love Roger McDowell!
b-rule™
on April 19, 2006 at 2:09 pm
Ouch, Who can make us scores in today’s line up, excepting Andruw?
Really awesome game.
John in Austin
on April 19, 2006 at 2:10 pm
Good job winning the series, Braves!
Brad
on April 19, 2006 at 2:10 pm
We won with *that* lineup. Ridiculous.
kc
on April 19, 2006 at 2:10 pm
Vintage Hudson!!! MVP Andruw!!!
korobeiniki
on April 19, 2006 at 2:10 pm
ballgame over… well done Hudson. Two complete games in two straight. The rotation seems to be back on track.
Adam
on April 19, 2006 at 2:10 pm
It’s just so nice to beat the Mets. it never gets old.
Dave Laster
on April 19, 2006 at 2:10 pm
2 out of 3 IN NEW YORK. Damn, that feels good…
Big D
on April 19, 2006 at 2:10 pm
I love these kinds of games. And with an off day tomorrow, I’m gonna be happy for the next 2+ days at least. Hopefully this is the Huddy we get from now on.
ububba
on April 19, 2006 at 2:11 pm
You have no idea how sweet this is for me. All the Met people in my office were waiting for me in my office Tuesday morning. Can’t find ’em now… Typical.
What a win. Hey, we’re .500!
Kyle S
on April 19, 2006 at 2:11 pm
Wait, so do we give the Mets the division yet or do we have to wait?
I know. It’s because Beltran was hurt. That’s why they didn’t sweep us.
Mike M.
on April 19, 2006 at 2:12 pm
Where did that NYMets guy go?
Big D
on April 19, 2006 at 2:12 pm
I think the bullpen is finally getting the rest they need. 2 straight CG’s before an off day. Not bad.
Dix
on April 19, 2006 at 2:12 pm
wow, that game ended FAST
Matt
on April 19, 2006 at 2:12 pm
thank you david wright for that 2nd run
Mike Clay
on April 19, 2006 at 2:13 pm
The Braves always seem to start slow like this…hopefully this is the start of our run to first. Great series proves the Mets aren’t untouchable.
Big D
on April 19, 2006 at 2:13 pm
Yeah, I have to be somewhere at 3 (CDT), so I was hoping it wasn’t a really long game. I think I got me wish. 🙂
David Remy
on April 19, 2006 at 2:14 pm
The Braves take two out of three from the Mets. Now let the New York media do the rest of the damage. They’ll have a field day with Wright.
mholc68
on April 19, 2006 at 2:14 pm
Fellas, that was one studly performance.
ermoore
on April 19, 2006 at 2:14 pm
That was nearly as satisfying as Thanksgiving dinner . . . yeah, it’s a beautiful day today.
Big D
on April 19, 2006 at 2:15 pm
And apparently I’m Scottish or Irish or whatever.
jac holtzman
on April 19, 2006 at 2:15 pm
Ring the Bell….the Braves are back in it.
I had a feeling, sweating over my crappy internet connection speed MLB Gameday broadcast that Andruw would jack it out in the 7th. He’s such a bad ass, I personally wrote J.S. two years ago and told him if he traded Jones he would regret it for the rest of his career. Good thing he listened to old Jac.
I like seeing the rotation going nine, but it will ultimately cost us dearly in terms of late season arm strength and experience/confidence in our set-up and closers. Time will tell.
JH
Charles Z.
on April 19, 2006 at 2:18 pm
As a Mets fan, I must say I hope this is the beginning of a great set of series between these two teams.
ATL does what they always does against us, which is find a way to win the series regardless of who they run out there.
I was hoping that both ATL and NYM would both be healthy for all the games, but maybe the next series will see both teams at with their best players out there.
Regardless of what you all might think, I still believe these 2 teams will be battling for the division right down to the end of the year.
Peace,
CZ
Smitty
on April 19, 2006 at 2:18 pm
David Wright is the MVP, the MVP for the Braves.
bmac
on April 19, 2006 at 2:18 pm
I taped the game today while I was at work, now I’m really looking forward to going home and watching a great pitching matchup, and of course, a Braves win.
ububba
on April 19, 2006 at 2:18 pm
That game was 1:59.
I’m listening to Todd Pratt on the WFAN post-game & said that Roger McDowell noticed a mechanical flaw in Huddy’s motion during a video session and they corrected it.
Some Classic Q&A:
WFAN’s Ed Coleman: Todd, you’ve been up and down the coast playing in this division. Now you’re a Brave. What’s it like?
Todd Pratt: My whole career I hated Atlanta. I hated the uniform, I hated the stadium, I hated the chant. Now that I’m getting to know Bobby Cox & this organization, I’m understanding why I’ve always been in second place behind them. Bobby treats everyone like we’re his sons. He’s the most positive manager I’ve ever been around in my whole life. Even on that West Coast trip we endured, he kept coming in and saying, “We’re gonna get ’em today.” You don’t know how much that means to a team.
Jay
on April 19, 2006 at 2:21 pm
Be interesting to see what the imbeciles on Baseball Tonight have to say now. Chip kept bringing up the NY media, but nothing I read in the NY papers on Monday was nearly as idiotic as what the espn buffoons were spewing.
David Remy
on April 19, 2006 at 2:21 pm
Well, Charles, you got to see three exciting games between two long-time rivals. What more could a fan want?
Jason Thacker
on April 19, 2006 at 2:24 pm
way back to Dix comment at the top…
For college B-ball, it is actually Uconn that ESPN loves so much. Maybe it is because ESPN is located in Bristol, Conn.
Tennessee Brave
on April 19, 2006 at 2:24 pm
After my Conflicts class was over, I ran upstairs to the computer lab, hoping to catch the last 30 minutes of the game on Gameday. How shocked (and happy) I was to see the results of today. I really wish I could have seen Hudson, it sounds like he really owned the Mets today. Everyone knew our rotation was good, it was just a matter of time. Awesome. Sounds like Glavine was great, too. It’s just too bad he plays for the wrong team. Also, it makes it even better that we beat them with our AAA lineup.
clarke
on April 19, 2006 at 2:25 pm
Jac,
I don’t think its a show of lack of confidence in the bullpen when you leave the starter in when he’s pitching as good as Hudson was. A bullpen should be more protection, and I can’t imagine that a reliever(especially in the NL) would be upset that he is not pitching, because that means the starter is pitching so well and the team is leading by enough where the pitcher can hit for himself.
Braveheart
on April 19, 2006 at 2:28 pm
I nominate David Wright for Braves MVP for today. Without his THREE errors & 0-3 performance at the plate the Braves could not have won.
Bobby’s lineup which had good defensive players outside of Jordan & almost no feared hitters won against the mighty Mets bats with a leaky defense.
clarke
on April 19, 2006 at 2:28 pm
Oh and ESPN has nothing on their website about today’s game. NOTHING, NADA. They are beyond biased.
Alex R.
on April 19, 2006 at 2:31 pm
Hey all.
I am a GOOD friend.
I stayed at home to watch the game before coming back to my office and my mouse on my desktop is broken so I text messaged our fearless leader, Mac, while he was in class, minute by minute updates. He got the good news in real time.
Now my comments.
1. Welcome back Mr. Hudson. Let’s see…Smoltz, Davies, Hudson, Thomson…that just leaves ONE rotation spot without a quality start.
2. F-U NY Media and F-U ESPN. If you listen to those sources, you would think only the Mets were playing shorthanded and that Tony Pena Jr. & Pete Orr were Braves regulars. Huh.
3. T. Pena Jr. can’t hit a lick but hello Rafy Belliard, Part II…..some unreal fielding from the kid and he probably saved our bacon. A few times.
4. I actually got to watch Andruw hit his home run. Thanks, ‘Druw.
5. I really want to Tivo “Baseball Tonight” tonight and see what those jackals have to say for themselves. If they neglect to give the Braves credit and instead, credit the Mets injuries, I am going to hurl large objects towards the state of Connecticut.
That is all.
Tennessee Brave
on April 19, 2006 at 2:40 pm
Funny quote from the ‘Game Notes’ on ESPN’s recap of today’s game:
“Wright’s three errors matched a Mets record, set many times.”
For some reason, that struck me as humorous.
krugerindustrialsmoothing
on April 19, 2006 at 2:40 pm
My favorite line from ESPN’s AP summary under Game notes:
‘Wright’s three errors matched a Mets record, set many times.’
just made me smile.
krugerindustrialsmoothing
on April 19, 2006 at 2:41 pm
d’oh, beat me by mere seconds, still smiling though.
Big D
on April 19, 2006 at 2:42 pm
Wow, that’s kinda eerie, 2 almost identical posts at exactly the same time
David Remy
on April 19, 2006 at 2:45 pm
Back to ububba’s comments re: Pratt radio interview. McDowell picking up on a flaw in Hudson’s mechanics–and then Hudson getting the results he did today–must do wonders for the pitching staff’s confidence in their coach. And you know that Hudson and Davies must be feeling very self-confident right now. That kind of confidence has a way of infusing other members of the staff as well.
Alex R.
on April 19, 2006 at 2:49 pm
David Remy,
Well said, indeed. It should also infuse us Braves fans to have more confidence in Roger McDowell.
Obviously, Bobby saw something in the guy to make the hire.
Considering what I have seen the last few days as well as what I have seen from Ken Ray (overall body of work), Chuckie James and Lance Cormier (amongst others), I am now far more willing to give Roger time and the benefit of the doubt.
The fact that he was incredibly nice to me when I met him as a ‘young’ Mets rookie reliever in July of 1985 when I was a chunky 10 year old, didn’t hurt either. (I met him at the Mets hotel in Atlanta where I met all the 85 Mets players as a little chubby bastard).
The nicest Met that weekend (though 95% of them were great guys) was GRAY CARTER. My parents to this day talk about what a great guy he was 21 years ago.
Several Comments.
As a Northern Virginia resident, let me say that RFK is a horrific place to watch a game. And I grew up going to Fulton County Stadium when my family would drive up from Savannah. I am COUNTING the minutes until a new DC stadium is built.
Second, Hudson…get it together. If you are hurt as Mac suggests, then get the hell out of the rotation and let Chuckie James have a shot. If Davies is now comfortable and Smoltz and Thomson are already there, we are closer and closer to having a strong 5-man rotation. Hudson needs to get his act together.
Third, why has Adam not been hanging out with Chipper more? If the Ridalyn kicks in, then Adam needs to focus on everything Chipper has to say.
Fourth, Jim Bowden is not only a drunk and a moron, but he looks like a hybrid of a game show host…some sort of bizarre Peter Tomarken, Chuck Woolery, and Bob Eubanks human hybrid.
Do you guys realize that if Bobby WALKS Carlos Delgado on Monday and then Sosa gets David Wright out (something he was doing just fine) the Braves win that game 3-2 and we are 2-0 at Shea Stadium this year?
When are the ESPN fools going to stop handing the division to the Mets yet?
By the way, loving ordered the MLB package…the part of the game I did listen to, the Mets announcers (including Ron Darling who was here in DC last year doing the Nats games) were less biased then the ESPN guys. Darling (who I met when I was a kid and he’s a nice guy, class act) was very complimentary of the young Braves and both guys in particular were complimentary of Wilson Betemit–Mac pointed out to me that they called him the most underrated player in the National League.
Why are we getting fairer and better analysis from the Mets announcers then the supposedly neutral ESPN guys? It’s just odd but a nice shout out to the Mets guys for being classy.
ESPN has never been neutral.
They following teams always have their genetalia in ESPN’s mouth:
Duke Basketball
Ohio State Football
Miami Football
Notre Dame Football
Colorado Avalanche
Detroit Redwings
New York Yankees
New York Mets
Boston Red Sox
and whatever other team looks like a favorite in any given year, until someone else emerges as a new favorite.
Probably because damn ESPN is too busy reporting about Barry Bonds. I think I’m going to puke if I have to listen to Pedro Gomez again because the dude seems to have his head up Bonds’ rear. I watched the Mets post game last night and didn’t know the Braves score yrt because I was out but it felt good when it ended with the trio (which included Ron Darling) saying the one thing they learned tonight was you can never count out the Braves.
Not to be spell check police, but fellas…..
Ridalyn?
genetalia?
On a related note, Peter Tomarken, RIP. My friend claims to have seen his plane go down. I was hoping he would star with Bill Murray in the “Press Your Luck” movie, but now it won’t happen.
As for last night, my cable provider who shall remain lame didn’t carry it, so I had to endure Baseball Tonight’s toned-down version. Believe me, had it been 7-1 Mets yesterday Peter Gammons would have sported a Davey Johnson mask and Mets codpiece while taunting us with the chop. As it happened, we got a 10 second highlight reel of AJ’s bombs and almost no mention of Davies, how rocks btw.
No call-ups mentioned in the Braves Press Pass. I guess the team is going to play short-handed. Call-ups are not always listed in this brief, but since Marcus’s injury was known so early last night I suspect they would have had time to add a blurb about a new player.
Atlantabraves.com said Hudson will be short handed today. Jones, Renteria, and Giles will all be on the bench today. Huddy better bring his “A” game
May not have had time to get someone up to New York in time for game, since it’s an early start.
Day game after a night game – even with the off day tomorrow, we might have Pratt behind the dish.
Todd Pratt, Pete Orr, Wilson Betemit, Tony Pena, Tim Hudson account for over half our lineup?
Haha, if we win today it’s nothing short of amazing.
what if Bobby uses this Line-up against Glavine and we can somehow pull it off.
Orr
Betemit
Francouer
Jones
Jordan
Pratt
Diaz
Pena
Hudson
We all know that he will load up w/ right handers today. Our lineup could be very interesting today.
The R-Braves are playing in Buffalo, so I think getting a player there would not have been too hard. But, then again, who would they grab?
Wryn,
To be fair here, I don’t see why you are “lumping” Wilson Betemit in with that group. The guy is a hitting stud and if we weren’t so stubborn about not teaching the kid first base, we could have his hot bat in there for 162, if we wanted.
Betemit has the bat of a starting hitter.
Yes, R.I.P., Peter Tomarken. I hope you didn’t get any whammies on the way to heaven.
With regards to Dix’s comments about ESPN’s love fest for those teams, AMEN BROTHER.
The one that irks me beyond reason is Ohio State. They love that damned school. And it’s why I hate them.
As a Georgia fan, I cannot get the stench of ESPN’s coverage in 2003 when all they did was talk about the Ohio State LUCKEYES and stopped mentioning Georgia all together even with our 1 loss and the fact that we were 3rd in the BCS. Ohioe State lucked into half their wins and that should have been our year. The most agaonizing year I can remember as a Dawg fan.
Plus, had all the Maurice Clarett stink and all the scandal that was attached to it with boosters, fake grades, hummers and all the Buckeyes that were in and out of jail been say attached to an SEC school, ESPN would have filtered Andrea Kremer or Pedro Gomez or Mark Schwartz to said SEC campus to cover what an illegal operation was being run.
Because the SEC is in the south (like the Braves) the anti souther bias never ever ends and it makes me sick to my stomach.
Ohioe State and their lying leaders A.D., Andy Geiger, got a clean break on the entire coverage with NO NCAA VIOLATIONS HANDED DOWN despite all the evidence connected with the Clarett scandal and other players too who admitted wrongdoings.
Alabama, Auburb, Georgia, South Carolina…when an SEC school does something wrong, theres coverage and a punishment. Fair or unfair, that’s the way it is. Ohio State? They got a free pass.
Makes me sick. Like apparently, if you are in the Big 10, it’s impossible to be guilty of anything because only people with southern accents are bad or evil, according to ESPn. We’re just a bunch of reguionalized, redneck hicks who sleep with their cousins. But Ohio State…little angels.
Just makes me sick and I LOATHE Ohio State for that reason. They are the poster children (along with Duke, the Yankees, Mets and Red Sox, USC, the Lakers) for everything that is absolutely wrong with ESPN.
Mickey Mouse can shove his biased coverage up his a–.
Go Braves and go Dawgs. Long live the SEC.
Dix, I agree with all of your teams, but you left out one biggie: USC football. ESPN slurps them like none other. Remember last season when they had the special segment where Mark May and Kirk Herbstreit discussed potential matchups between USC and the greatest college football teams of all time? Then USC proceeded to lose to Texas. That was pretty funny.
There is one thing that I have never quite understood in Fandom, and that is being proud of the success of the conference your team is in, even if your team stinks. Its a little stupid isn’t it?
If I were the Braves, I’d have them literally “grab” Andy Marte from the opposing dugout. The Mets have probably forgotten about the trade already, right? I’m sure Andy would be happy to play in the bigs no matter what uni he was wearing. The trick will be to keep the Indians from finding out.
I too love the Dawgs and the Braves. Seeing Will Startup with 9K/6IP, 0ER, warms the heart. I just hope he carried the banner higher than Jeff Treadway.
Alex R. and Dix, I agree completely with almost everything you said, but don’t forget to add USC to the list. ESPN, for whatever reasons, really doesn’t give the SEC the same coverage the Big 10, ACC, and Pac-10 get. I still can’t stand the Sports Reporters, on account of the crap they pulled against Manning in the Heisman race (well, and cause they just suck in general), nor will I ever forgive Michigan or Woodson. Alright, that’s enough, this topic just riles me up and keeps me from accomplishing anything else the rest of the day.
Going back to Alex R’s comment about the Mets announcers. I also had an opportunity to watch the Mets telecast, and was impressed by the impartiality they all showed. Darling was very complimentary regarding Davies pitching in particular. Also, like everyone else here, I’m very disappointed about ESPN’s bias towards any New York team.
I just want to know where NY METS has been.
On a more Braves baseball-related note, I’m not terribly optimistic about today’s game. Even without an infield of Betemit-Orr-Pena, the new-sucky-Hudson versus the old-rejuvenated-Glavine really worries me.
Here’s hopin’ we keep it close and just absolutely destroy Wagner in the 9th. I’ll take a win no matter who’s pitching, but that would just really make my day.
Today’s Lineup: God Help Us!
Orr
Betemit
Diaz
Jones
Francouer
Jordan
Pratt
Pena
Hudson
Under/Over on Glavine’s K’s is 12.
Holy Crap! Is that for real?! 2 starters?! Yeesh.
The Mets lineup is pretty awful too, FWIW.
Could we not find Otis Nixon?
Andruw and the Seven Dwarfs, huh? Well, that’s not fair to Betemit, but still.
What’s the over under for amount of time it’ll take NYMETS to show up from under his desk should his Mets win today?
This could be ugly today.
On another note, the Astros got back to .500 as a franchise last night, for the first time since their 6th game ever (back in ’62). The article said 13 teams in MLB were at .500 or over, and Atlanta wasn’t listed.
Now, I knew they were very bad, back when I started watching them in the early 80’s, but I didn’t know much about the earlier days of the franchise. It took some digging, but it looks like they are about 30 games under .500 or so (the record I found is a few days out of date, and I’m not sure what was updated).
I’m surprised that the main MLB home page didn’t have this info. The Press Pass for today notes that they have had the best record in the majors since ’91 (1438-939), but I also found something else saying they had the worst record in the majors for their first 25 years in Atlanta – from ’66 to 90.
Anyway, the point is that if they have a good year, they might reach the .500 point themselves sometime this season, and that’s pretty cool.
I hear that Sid Bream is also available for today’s game – maybe Ricky Henderson will pinch run for David Wright during the game as well
I actually think we should activate Glenn Hubbard. We could let Pena be the 1st base coach for today. Just move Betemit to short, Orr to 3rd, and Hubbard at 2nd. That is probably better than what we’re gonna have so I say give it a try.
? Beltran, Floyd, Hernandez miss Mets’ loss to Braves
this is what Fox sports shows as the title to this article. I think it should say
The Braves destroyed the Mets without Jones or Renteria
Anderson Hernandez is a rookie who can’t hit–losing him is not exactly tragic.
If they’re going to count that among the Mets’ losses, they should mention that we’re without Kelly Johnson.
Speaking of NYMETS, that fact that he hasn’t shown up after last night says all I need to know about him and mets fans in general.
That’s a brutal lineup, but y’never know. I’m not giving up this game either.
Alex,
I work very closely with an Ohio State grad & I ride him mercilessly about how, historically, the SEC has dominated the Big 10. It’s something like 35-18 all-time in bowl games (last year was 2-2).
The reason why SEC people love the SEC is because, over time, it’s proven to be the best football conference in America. Why wouldn’t its members enjoy its success? Out of the 12 current SEC schools, there are only a couple (you know who you are) that haven’t had some stretch of success. I believe there are some other sociological reasons why it matters so much to so many people in SEC-Land, but the point is: Who doesn’t like a winner?
However, I will be the last person to think that everyone in our conference has clean hands. UGA has dodged a few probation bullets itself (Fred Davison, Jan Kemp in football; Cedric Henderson, Elmore Spencer & Jim Harrick in basketball). There’s no such thing as a completely clean program in big-time college football.
FYI – I’m listening to the Willie Randolph pre-game right now & he’s making excuses for Zambrano and whining about the Mets’ injuries. Wait ’til he see’s our lineup. He & Glavine should be licking their chops.
Yeah, I know who I am. Vandy was good in the 1930s, though….
The most hilarious thing about ESPN as regards Braves coverage is the fact that they’re always at least three days behind whatever’s going on at the moment with the team. After the first couple of games, they were still talking about the Braves and the Mets were not going to be stopped, blah blah blah…meanwhile, our pitching was sucking and there didn’t appear to be any mention of it whatsoever. I was stunned. However, then by that weekend, they were talking about how bad our pitching was as if they had just discovered it and were the first people ever to so much as mention it. Now, they’re all still saying that the Braves will be in trouble if they don’t get their pitching in order, without so much as an “oh by the way, they have gotten really good pitching performances three out of the last four outings. Maybe it’s starting to turn around.” They’re still talking about it like we’re still in the middle of last week or something. However, they seem to be completely up to date on what the Mets and Yankees and Red Sox are doing.
And I’m not even really gonna get into how ridiculous ESPN’s coverage of the whole Barry Bonds situation has been, becuase I could actually be typing for an hour. I will say this though. On one side, you have an entity that seems to think of itself as some form of a news organization…sports news, but still news. On the other hand, you have the most highly publicized participant in the biggest sports scandal in years. You have a book proving that said participant did steroids. So what do you do? Do you investigate the claims in the book in depth? Do you do a little investigative journalism your own, upset the someone else broke this story and not you? No, apparently not. And not only do you refuse to do this, but you let the highly-publicized participant CONTROL ALL OF YOUR NEWS COVERAGE ON THE TOPIC and continue to frame the debate the same way you did before this proof came out. Now that’s good journalism right there. (OK, so I did get into it a little bit. I could have gone a whole lot deeper, trust me. As a journalism student, the entire thing really pisses me off.)
ESPN is more about branding & selling fried food in their crappy ESPN Zones than journalism. They haven’t done that in a long time. The appearance of conflict of interest is something they obviously don’t worry about.
However, I could care less what their talking heads or “experts” ever say. To me, ESPN’s only “in-house expert” that I really enjoy is Barry Melrose, and that’s because I’m a card-carrying member of the North American Hockey Cult. He knows what he’s talking about & he doesn’t pull punches in his commentary, like some of the ex-MLB guys do.
Bottom Line: ESPN has been a joke for a long time.
can anybody lead me to a radio station website that is covering the game? thanks
WGST may have a free feed up, but doubt it will last the whole game. I’m listening to their feed via the MLB Gameday Audio package.
ububba,
I understand what you are saying about the conference thing, but if you are a fan of a school like Vanderbilt, how do you get satisfaction by seeing your conference do well. Is it supposed to validate why your team still sucks?
Beats me, ask Stu.
I guess I am one of the rare “Northern” Braves fans, who also happens to be a Buckeye, and without getting into a pissing match with Alex R., it is interesting to get different perspective on things. Buckeye fans think the worst of ESPN – recall the Tom Friend article in the Magazine about Clarett, a couple of ESPN stunts for College GameDay, etc. In our minds, ESPN is worthless and out to get the Buckeyes, yet in Alex R.’s opinion, that couldn’t be further from the truth. Buckeye fans are as quick to point out SEC faults (thank you, ububba) and ask why ESPN doesn’t pay attention as you SEC guys are to point to the Buckeyes.
So, let’s agree that big time college football is full of “gray”, and ESPN sucks!!
Now, on to the game…
Wow, listening to Joe (?) reading off the lineup makes it sound even worse than seeing up above in print.
Although, aside from Mets 3-4-5, none of them are very impressive, and I’m not sure Nady is for real yet.
Obviously no one has explained to Orr that leadoff hitters are supposed to take pitches.
Mac said the game thread would be late. So I guess this is the place to note that Glavine’s looking good. Although Pete Orr, Wilson Betemit, and Matt Diaz sure didn’t make him try very hard.
Work the count, guys! Please!
Just got it…is Bobby still in spring training?
Wow, 6 pitches, 3 outs. Nice job working the count.
Pete Orr is not a leadoff hitter. He’s not a 3rd baseman either. He’s a bad utility player that we have to see until Renteria gets back.
He’s not a terrible utility player… he’s just worse than Wilson Betemit in every way. Basically, he’s Nick Green, but we won’t be able to trade him to Tampa Bay.
At least he made a decent defensive play, from the sound of it.
He’s terrible in the sense that he can do a lot of things, but none particularly well.
ughh that infield looks terrible. Guess the great day for larchoe last night earns him the bench today.. nice.
Huddy looked really nice that inning. Getting ahead of hitters and no one’s putting good swings on the ball. Just got Delgado to roll out weakly.
tom glavine might throw a 50-pitch complete game today.
I though the game was on wgst online, but i guess not
But Jeff Francouer ends the perfect game.
Too bad too, because in his career against Glavine, he went 3 for 4 with a 2b & a HR, along with 2 walks.
Jeez, another 1st pitch swing. At least Jeffie took a pitch, and as I type this, got a hit!
Jordan tried so hard to hit into a double play. Maybe next time, Brian.
Good God… it looks like we won’t be getting 10 runs off this guy again. I guess there’s a reason he’ll be in the Hall of Fame.
Just wow – someone finally took pitches, 3 called strikes.
I can’t even complain about what these guys are doing. None of them should even be in the game. And you’re seeing why.
Good thing Hudson’s sharp today.
For having the best start in team history, the Mets fans sure are quick to jeer their own team. I was at the game last night, and all I heard was “Boo.” No wonder Beltran hates it here.
Also, they booed Andruw every time he came up. Not that I was expecting class from Mets fans, but it’s not like he’s John Rocker. He just hits monster, monster home runs.
Whoo! Hudson just made David Wright look SILLY. His pitches are darting, his sinkers are sinking, and his control is looking good so far. Here’s hoping we’ll see more of this guy.
Ya got that right, Brad.
I swear this Mets announcer was on MASN last year. And he was awful. Looks like some things don’t change.
So will this be a pitcher’s duel because our pitcher is good and our lineup sucks or because both pitchers are good?
Pitch counts through two innings: Hudson 21, Glavine 13.
Don’t you think that’s logical, justin? Do you really think Vanderbilt would have played its last bowl game in 1982 if we played in Conference USA? Regardless of one’s team’s talents, I think you have to like it when it is shown that the conference it plays in is the toughest. Whatever level of success one’s team has in that conference is much more respectable than similar success (or lack thereof) in a weaker conference. At least that’s what I tell myself to be able to sleep at night.
Tony Pena must feel like the luckiest guy alive.
Jenny, I think it will be a duel from a little bit of both reasons. (and Brad, I meant you were right on both of your posts before that one!)
Glavine’s blazing 76-mph pitches are mesmerizing every hitter…ridiculous
The definition of irony: Tony Pena has had the longest at-bat of the day.
I’m sorry, I know y’all love him, but Pete Orr is awful.
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Did I say Pete Orr suck?
sorry pete, but im a left hand hitter and im pretty sure i could have AT LEAST put one of those pitches in play
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The Richmond game is live for free on minorleaguebaseball.com for anyone interested in the young guys.
Don’t need the richmond game…we have plenty of minor leaguers there in NY.
Greetings everyone. All of a suddent it seems like old times… the Braves in a pitching duel.
Last night’s game was 2:09 in length.
At this rate with these sad lineups & these pitchers dealing like they are, today’s game could be sub-2-hours.
1 run’s going to win this game, I predict…come on Druw, go yard
I’m not sure I’d call it a pitching duel. Maybe an inept-hitting duel.
Howdy Adam – more like a “swing & miss” duel, but same effect. 🙂
Hudson very sharp so far.
i agree ububba, except i would say hudson is dealing…glavine is just throwing hittable strikes, and we happen to have 5 pitchers in the lineup today
If you say so…
I’m not watching; I’m listening at work.
Ice, Glavine always threw hittable pitches, just never when the hitters wanted them… he’s changing speeds nicely today, and that curveball’s good.
Did anyone else on MLB.TV just lose the feed?
this is the second time for me already jenny
The technical stuff with that has been really bad this year.
Jenny, I keep losing it the last two or three commercials. I just reload from the “Today” tab and it works fine till the next break.
i love how mets fans clap at a pitch to andruw’s head.
Diaz just swing at 5 or 6 pitches, one of which was a strike. Glavine only threw him one hittable ball, i think
Haha. 371 foot broken bat flyout just a few feet away from a homer for Marte.
Have the Braves ever started a worse lineup than the one they have today? Not just since the run began–ever? Even during the bleakest years there were mostly decent majorleague hitters up and down the order. Not today.
i change my mind AAR, that sequence against andruw was excellent from glavine…i wonder what kind of discount he would take to come home next year…Smoltz, Hudson, Glavine, Davies, Hampton would be formidable
I think, based on the combination of players, this is the worst lineup possible. Seriously.
So how long do you suppose we can go scoreless in this thing with the two terrible lineups? I’m gonna go with 15 innings.
At some point the Mets would have to bring in Jorge Julio.
First mistake loses this game.
Whichever team scores first will be the first to get to the other team’s bullpen, from there, its all over.
Yeah, that is true. If that happens, maybe we’ll actually get a runner to third.
If anything, a perfect game for Hudson to gain some momentum
Nice play Tony Junior.
Well, at least he can play defense.
How weird did that Pena catch look?
Holy shit! Nice play, Tony Pena!
By the way, today’s AFLAC trivia question on the Mets TV network, which we can use as a future Fun Mets Fact:
Who has managed the most games against the Mets?
Answer: Bobby Cox, 267 games, with a record of 149-118. (.558)
HAHA. Buffalo’s catcher just drilled Scott Thorman with a ball trying to throw to second base. Thorman was in the batters box….just wow….
if anything its taken hudson fewer pitches to get delgado than glavine to get andruw so far
Pena is our version of Anderson Hernandez
Nice play Reyes
A runner!
I’m late to the party, but I would like to say I think it’s a bit odd that LaRoche is sitting after his great day yesterday … lefty on the mound, and all, but still …
No time for little-ball now, not with Pratt & Pena coming up.
Be a Met-Killer, Brian…
that was a base hit LOL
time to engineer a run.
Mets announcer: “Francouer is not a base stealer.”
Hmmm. With his speed, I think he could be.
Jordan will bounce into a double play, I have confidence in him.
I love Brian Jordan.
we all love Jordan. he’s just so amazing.
I think Bobby’s giving his starters a Sunday special today because it’s a day game after a night game.
Isn’t tomorrow an off day?
I take it back.
Guess the announcer was right. Or that was a bad hit & run attempt.
the Mets fans are so psychotic.
Wouldn’t you be if you were getting no-hit?
Well, I guess we can’t expect the Mets official scorekeeper to know anymore about the game than the average Mets fan.
i cant seem to figure pratt out, i know hes had few at bats so far this season but i thought he had somethin like a .950-1.000 career OPS against lefties…he just doesnt look like he hits the ball hard at all
No, but I would probably be a little off if I lived on Long Island.
I can figure Pratt out…he’s a backup catcher.
Damn, Hudson is just wicked today. 15 down, 12 to go.
Nice!
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
We had damn well better score a run somewhere along the way. How embarrassing would it be if Hudson threw a no-hitter and we haven’t score a run?
I can’t wait to hear Alex R. after this game. It looks like he may have to lay off Adam LaRoche and Hudson at the same time.
But I think he’ll be happy to do it.
I think Mike is a bit superstitious. Maybe we should lay off talking about the n*-h***** for a while…
…much less the p****** g***
Adam,
Depends on which part of LI you’re talking about. One town is radically different from another.
How good does Hudson look?
These are the kinds of games I love to go to. Nothing is better than a pitchers duek.
Well at least they’re making Glavine work.
Hudson, you may have to make your own run today
Richmond 1 Atlanta 0
My apologies. Just cracking a joke… you’re right.
How injured is Marcus? Can he pinch-hit?
My Aflac trivia question: will pete orr make contact today?
I’ll call a run scored next inning for Atlanta, the solid part of the order coming up.
I’d take marcus and renteria on crutches over this.
Define “solid.”
Brad, he already did – he opened the game with a fly out on 1st pitch. 🙂
betemit with a leadoff double would be awesome
Jenny, Wilson-Diaz-Andruw & Jeffy if anyone gets on.
Oh ok…I forgot.
has Orr taken a ball (not a strike) yet?
I guess I’m a bit confused as to why Langerhans is out of the game. Isn’t it bad enough to have a minor league infield?
Well we knew we weren’t going to keep Ramon Castro in check all day.
That sucks.
Durn it!
🙁
I hope this isn’t Hudson’s bad inning
Haha. Nice, Brad.
especially since it’s against the bottom of the order.
Brian Jordan…please just go away
Great… thanks, BJ.
!@#!@#!@#$%@$>:!#!@#~
I HATE BRIAN JORDAN.
wow. that’s just horrible.
LaRoche would have made that one. (that’s for Alex)
Beautiful!!!
Byooo-tiful!
What a THROWWWWWW
I love Matty
Woooooo!!
Way to go, Matt Diaz!
Woooooo!!
Way to go, Matt Diaz!
What a throw.
Holy crap!!! Where the hell did that throw come from?
Very nice!!!
I LOVE MATT DIAZ!!!
Whoo!
NICE PLAY.
Momentum: Braves.
Who knew?
Diaz just threw a rope from 200 feet away and nailed the runner at home. Jordan couldn’t throw it 25 feet to 2nd base.
Where the hell did that throw come from?
Came out of left field, my friend! : >)
Brian Jordan sucks in everything he does.
friggin mlb tv delay, i thought you were being sarcastic for sure aar
Wow, Game is coming on in leaps and bounds.
I’m sure Hudson likes to have a strong sense of rivalry.
I didn’t see the throw; only have the game on the radio. The deafening silence from Shea sounded so lovely…
I’m sorry, Tom Glavine is not this good.
yeah really… what gotten into Glavine and Maddux this year? with the ways these guys throw, they’ll be pitching forever.
HELL YES
That’s my boyyyyyyyyyy
Now THAT’S an MVP!!!
Andruw!!!
YES!
There it is!
You think Andruw will have a kid named Shea?
Andruw!
BAM!
Wait a second, Andruw just went the other way…WOW
MVP!!!!!!!!!!
YEA!
AWESOME!! Andruw is just sick right now!
New Met Killer!! Andruwwww!!!!
Andruw~!
Frenchy!!!
Rudolph!
And Frenchy goes 3 for 3 (okay, the Mets score it an error). You’d think they would protect their 3rd baseman on stuff like that.
now if andruw was pujols in that situation…they would have walked him…he still doesnt get enough respect
Dont worry, we have Jordan to kill the rally
Joe Simpson is ripping the scorekeeper. Get em Joe!
LOL…what the hell is the Mets scorer smoking? Let me get this straight: Somebody throws a ball into the stands when a good throw gets him and it’s a hit; smash one that takes a bad hop off a guy’s chest and it’s an error. Makes sense to me.
Andruw’s late game adjustments at the plate this series have been amazing. the MVP race this year is getting off to a torrid start…
They showed the scorer on TV…he didn’t exactly look all there
ANDRUW?.?
Come on Pratt, you’ve hit Glavine before, get him! (308/550/462 vs Glavine lifetime)
Yep…he’s a backup catcher, alright.
At least swing…goodness.
This is great. A 1-0 lead for the Braves on TBS and a really good 2-2 Richomond-Buffalo game on milb.com
Richmond*
What’s great is Andruw Freaking Jones. He’s just sick. And he’s still just 28.
Last 15 innings, Braves starters given up 4 hits
Flashin’ the leather!
Are we liking Lil’ Tony Pena now?
Pena needs to stay over Orr. he is faster and a much better defensive player.
Pena might be right. We might see him on sportscenter….top plays
This will be the toughest inning right here – if Huddy gets through this unscathed, game over.
Tony Pena, Jr. is doing everything you need to do if you are a no-hit defensive sub shortstop. He’s at least got that going for him.
Orr is a good bench player to have, so don’t go crazy.
Pena faster than Orr? I doubt it.
I love Hudson’s reaction to Pena’s nice play there. Excellent.
Yeah, wait just a second before you start saying Pena should replace Orr. He may be better defensively, but he still can’t hit worth a damn. At least Orr can get the odd single here and there. And it’s not like Orr is a defensive scrub anyway.
There we go. This is the Hudson we need to have this year.
there ya go!
Getting dangerous now, come out GIDP.
Hey-hey, sometimes you get what you ask for!
I am starting to like little Pena…that first out play is very impressive.
Orr is a defensive scrub. He is a miserable infielder who cant play SS(did you see the WBC).
Pena is extremely fast, and can play all three infield spots. Neither can hit worth a damn. Who would you rather have?
laroche’s career against glavine:
.750 .833 1.750 2.583
Orr can hit. He hasn’t recently, but he can. Meanwhile, there is no evidence at all that Pena can hit.
Just what the doctor ordered…
Hudson has 73 pitches thru 7; Glavine 83.
Nice throw, Wright…
David Wright having a bad day…”pena’s speed earned him a hit”
So about Damian Moss…
He just came on in relief for Richmond in a 2-2 game and gave up a 3-run homer….and now another hit…still wanna give him the call?
David Wright has to be glad he got out of bed this morning.
i suppose that’s a hit 🙂
Gotta squeeze out another run here.
Can we get some clutchness from Orr? Maybe Betemit…
Haha, they’re sacrificing for Pete Orr. I would have walked Hudson to get to Orr
There is no evidence Orr can hit. He was hit lucky last year.
do you get credit for making contact with the ball?
Well pete that’s better than a strike out.
Hit it to Wright.
He sure doesn’t show any patience.
Mets allowed runner to get to 3rd on that one.
dude, what happened to Wright?
Who called it??!!
HAHA.
LOL…good call, ububba.
haha what a call by ububba
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
david wright still your MVP?
Wow, just one of those days for Wright
so is that 3 errors?
We’ll take it.
He tried to hit it to Wright, but Glavine got it. Betemit hit it to Wright, another error.
3 errors. MVP!
Hm. Maybe you’re right. I thought Orr’s minor league numbers were pretty good, but they’re just .265 .317 .340. Still better than Pena’s.
So you can hit .265 in the minors and get called up? Amazing.
Hmm. Steve Karsay on the mound for Buffalo…
Seems just yesterday we traded John Rocker for him and Steve Reed.
Man, we get what we ask for, huh? Double play? Done. Another E by Wright? Done. I wonder what else we could get
Mathew F., I would rather have Orr. That was my point. He can’t play short extremely well, but he is above-average at third and second. And while neither one is a good hitter, Orr is at least passable. He hit .300 in 150 ABs last year. Mostly singles, but that’s enough to make him a decent utility infielder. Tony Pena is not even that. He’s a nice defensive player, but he can’t hit. Not can’t hit as in can’t hit well. Can’t hit as in can’t hit, period. All that said, I am still kind of rooting for Pena, because he seems to play hard, and he at least hasn’t been any worse than what we expected.
Langerhans in for Diaz in left.
i dont want the pen to get ahold of this one. come on tim!
Well, in this lineup, we don’t need Pena to hit. If he’s in the game, we should be up or down a ton anyway. As long as he’s not kicking the ball around, he’s fine.
Brad, he didn’t get called up for his bat. He’s up for his speed and ability to play multiple positions.
Big D, I’d like to ask for Hudson to mow down the rest of the lineup to get the 1-hitter.
Orr was like .320 last year at Richmond. Maybe more. He had a great AAA year last year (like KJ), and a pretty good ML year (like KJ).
This game is far from over, but it’s amazing how we just call up guys like Pena and they contribute.
So does this mean we are the world champs now?
Orr was in the majors last year
81 pitches thru 8. Nice.
This is the kinda game where Bobby will put in his relievers and give some sorry excuse like “they havent worked much lately” and “they needed the work” im afraid we’ll see reitsma…
If Cox takes Hudson out, I will never watch another game again.
When I watched Orr in spring ball, his defense was shaky. It was shaky in the WBC and even yesterday he misplayed a ball while at third. It wasnt an error, but a good 3b would have made the play. He isnt a passable defender.
I agree. There’s more ways to help a team win than by hitting. It takes defense, doing the little things, and being a bit lucky. Pena has helped put the Braves in a position to win today, and all that matters at the end of each day is getting the W. With only two starters in the game today, the Braves have a shot to beat a good team. Let’s get the win.
Not today Matt. Bobby will keep Huddy out there today.
Glavine out for Heilman.
surely not on 81 pitches he wont…and on a side note im happy we havent seen reitsma in any pointless situations this year, maybe bobby has finally learned to conserve him. although he has burned cormier this year even though thats what arizona did to kill him last year
No way Huddy comes out. After 81 pitches of dominance? We’re about to get our 2nd straight CG.
Yay!
Your last name isn’t Laroche, is it?
“there’s more ways to help a team win than by hitting”
Through 8, Hudson has 81 pitches. I doubt he’s doing anywhere.
yep. I’m posting from the dugout. life as a ballplayer is awsome.
speaking of LaRoche…
Thomson was at 74 through 7 I think sunday.
all that said, i can’t stand a lack of patience at the plate.
Baseball is much more than hitting…..
i think it was 63 through 6
Thomson only went 6 and I’m still mad about that game
evidently, Reitsma is up in the pen… ugh.
My point is, you never know with Cox. He does weird things.
it looks like it might be three wins on the season for braves pitchers, all CGs.
thomson was at 74 through 6…but he was in the bullpen to start the year and didnt have all of his stamina..i believe he told bobby he was gassed
Through the 8th inning here if you look at the last run through the rotation, the Braves starter’s ERA is 1.00 and their WHIP is 0.83 over 36 innings. Take out Sosa’s start and the ERA for the 4 remaining starters is 0.00 and the WHIP is 0.66. Need to keep that rolling……
let’s not get ahead of ourselves…
Hmmm, guess that was 2004 for Orr. I thought he got called up, but I guess he got ignored that year and made it in ST the next.
Day off tomorrow. I hope it doesn’t happen, but Bobby may stick with Huddy until he gives up a baserunner.
Unless Hudson asks out, I just can’t see Cox costing him a chance at the shutout.
I hope he stays with Hudson until he gives up 2 runs
i can see cox doing almost anything
Julio…he looks weird in a Mets uniform. Hope the extra money was worth it.
looks like Hudson. must avoid Delgado here.
I wonder if Harold Reynolds is going to talk about how great the Braves are now. I bet he still gives the Mets props.
Mac needs to keep the “I Miss Leo” tag for the rest of the year. Obviously, like last year’s “Trade Furcal”, it triggered something supernatural….
Yes, must avoid Delgado.
You got that right, Pete!
Anyone know what this has done to Hudson’s ERA?
5.87 ERA right now…
it’s now at 5.87.
Brad, current ERA is 5.67.
Also, Pena is not faster than Orr. Anyone who says that hasn’t seen both of them run.
Thanks
Well, we’re gonna see Delgado now.
Ah, misread 8 for 6 in that ERA. 🙂
Damn, 1 out double.
Do we walk Delgado, setting up a hero situation for Wright?
Hudson needs to stay cool. Now’s not the time to get flustered, not with the tying run at the plate.
ARG
aggggh
Holy crap. I’m scared.
Quit hanging pitches Tim!
It’s certainly hero time for somebody.
Well, win or lose, I like that Hudson wants to stay in this game. But I really want to win.
Shutout gone. Probably see Reitsma then, depends on what Hudson says to him.
I just had a minor heart attack.
That’s 2.
It’s hero-or-goat time for David Wright.
He’s in.
Holy crap that scared me
that helps
both with 2 strikes ewwww
Come on, 1 more
Vote Goat!
3 errors….3 errors…3 errors…
C’mon, Huddy… one more!
Please throw it in the dirt.
YES
Yeah, baby!
Gotta give it to the Auburn guy!
Yessss. What a game.
GREAT win. Huge game–and inning–for Hudson.
Woo-hoo!! Yeah baby!
Put him away! Go right after him!
I love Roger McDowell!
Ouch, Who can make us scores in today’s line up, excepting Andruw?
Really awesome game.
Good job winning the series, Braves!
We won with *that* lineup. Ridiculous.
Vintage Hudson!!! MVP Andruw!!!
ballgame over… well done Hudson. Two complete games in two straight. The rotation seems to be back on track.
It’s just so nice to beat the Mets. it never gets old.
2 out of 3 IN NEW YORK. Damn, that feels good…
I love these kinds of games. And with an off day tomorrow, I’m gonna be happy for the next 2+ days at least. Hopefully this is the Huddy we get from now on.
You have no idea how sweet this is for me. All the Met people in my office were waiting for me in my office Tuesday morning. Can’t find ’em now… Typical.
What a win. Hey, we’re .500!
Wait, so do we give the Mets the division yet or do we have to wait?
I know. It’s because Beltran was hurt. That’s why they didn’t sweep us.
Where did that NYMets guy go?
I think the bullpen is finally getting the rest they need. 2 straight CG’s before an off day. Not bad.
wow, that game ended FAST
thank you david wright for that 2nd run
The Braves always seem to start slow like this…hopefully this is the start of our run to first. Great series proves the Mets aren’t untouchable.
Yeah, I have to be somewhere at 3 (CDT), so I was hoping it wasn’t a really long game. I think I got me wish. 🙂
The Braves take two out of three from the Mets. Now let the New York media do the rest of the damage. They’ll have a field day with Wright.
Fellas, that was one studly performance.
That was nearly as satisfying as Thanksgiving dinner . . . yeah, it’s a beautiful day today.
And apparently I’m Scottish or Irish or whatever.
Ring the Bell….the Braves are back in it.
I had a feeling, sweating over my crappy internet connection speed MLB Gameday broadcast that Andruw would jack it out in the 7th. He’s such a bad ass, I personally wrote J.S. two years ago and told him if he traded Jones he would regret it for the rest of his career. Good thing he listened to old Jac.
I like seeing the rotation going nine, but it will ultimately cost us dearly in terms of late season arm strength and experience/confidence in our set-up and closers. Time will tell.
JH
As a Mets fan, I must say I hope this is the beginning of a great set of series between these two teams.
ATL does what they always does against us, which is find a way to win the series regardless of who they run out there.
I was hoping that both ATL and NYM would both be healthy for all the games, but maybe the next series will see both teams at with their best players out there.
Regardless of what you all might think, I still believe these 2 teams will be battling for the division right down to the end of the year.
Peace,
CZ
David Wright is the MVP, the MVP for the Braves.
I taped the game today while I was at work, now I’m really looking forward to going home and watching a great pitching matchup, and of course, a Braves win.
That game was 1:59.
I’m listening to Todd Pratt on the WFAN post-game & said that Roger McDowell noticed a mechanical flaw in Huddy’s motion during a video session and they corrected it.
Some Classic Q&A:
WFAN’s Ed Coleman: Todd, you’ve been up and down the coast playing in this division. Now you’re a Brave. What’s it like?
Todd Pratt: My whole career I hated Atlanta. I hated the uniform, I hated the stadium, I hated the chant. Now that I’m getting to know Bobby Cox & this organization, I’m understanding why I’ve always been in second place behind them. Bobby treats everyone like we’re his sons. He’s the most positive manager I’ve ever been around in my whole life. Even on that West Coast trip we endured, he kept coming in and saying, “We’re gonna get ’em today.” You don’t know how much that means to a team.
Be interesting to see what the imbeciles on Baseball Tonight have to say now. Chip kept bringing up the NY media, but nothing I read in the NY papers on Monday was nearly as idiotic as what the espn buffoons were spewing.
Well, Charles, you got to see three exciting games between two long-time rivals. What more could a fan want?
way back to Dix comment at the top…
For college B-ball, it is actually Uconn that ESPN loves so much. Maybe it is because ESPN is located in Bristol, Conn.
After my Conflicts class was over, I ran upstairs to the computer lab, hoping to catch the last 30 minutes of the game on Gameday. How shocked (and happy) I was to see the results of today. I really wish I could have seen Hudson, it sounds like he really owned the Mets today. Everyone knew our rotation was good, it was just a matter of time. Awesome. Sounds like Glavine was great, too. It’s just too bad he plays for the wrong team. Also, it makes it even better that we beat them with our AAA lineup.
Jac,
I don’t think its a show of lack of confidence in the bullpen when you leave the starter in when he’s pitching as good as Hudson was. A bullpen should be more protection, and I can’t imagine that a reliever(especially in the NL) would be upset that he is not pitching, because that means the starter is pitching so well and the team is leading by enough where the pitcher can hit for himself.
I nominate David Wright for Braves MVP for today. Without his THREE errors & 0-3 performance at the plate the Braves could not have won.
Bobby’s lineup which had good defensive players outside of Jordan & almost no feared hitters won against the mighty Mets bats with a leaky defense.
Oh and ESPN has nothing on their website about today’s game. NOTHING, NADA. They are beyond biased.
Hey all.
I am a GOOD friend.
I stayed at home to watch the game before coming back to my office and my mouse on my desktop is broken so I text messaged our fearless leader, Mac, while he was in class, minute by minute updates. He got the good news in real time.
Now my comments.
1. Welcome back Mr. Hudson. Let’s see…Smoltz, Davies, Hudson, Thomson…that just leaves ONE rotation spot without a quality start.
2. F-U NY Media and F-U ESPN. If you listen to those sources, you would think only the Mets were playing shorthanded and that Tony Pena Jr. & Pete Orr were Braves regulars. Huh.
3. T. Pena Jr. can’t hit a lick but hello Rafy Belliard, Part II…..some unreal fielding from the kid and he probably saved our bacon. A few times.
4. I actually got to watch Andruw hit his home run. Thanks, ‘Druw.
5. I really want to Tivo “Baseball Tonight” tonight and see what those jackals have to say for themselves. If they neglect to give the Braves credit and instead, credit the Mets injuries, I am going to hurl large objects towards the state of Connecticut.
That is all.
Funny quote from the ‘Game Notes’ on ESPN’s recap of today’s game:
“Wright’s three errors matched a Mets record, set many times.”
For some reason, that struck me as humorous.
My favorite line from ESPN’s AP summary under Game notes:
‘Wright’s three errors matched a Mets record, set many times.’
just made me smile.
d’oh, beat me by mere seconds, still smiling though.
Wow, that’s kinda eerie, 2 almost identical posts at exactly the same time
Back to ububba’s comments re: Pratt radio interview. McDowell picking up on a flaw in Hudson’s mechanics–and then Hudson getting the results he did today–must do wonders for the pitching staff’s confidence in their coach. And you know that Hudson and Davies must be feeling very self-confident right now. That kind of confidence has a way of infusing other members of the staff as well.
David Remy,
Well said, indeed. It should also infuse us Braves fans to have more confidence in Roger McDowell.
Obviously, Bobby saw something in the guy to make the hire.
Considering what I have seen the last few days as well as what I have seen from Ken Ray (overall body of work), Chuckie James and Lance Cormier (amongst others), I am now far more willing to give Roger time and the benefit of the doubt.
The fact that he was incredibly nice to me when I met him as a ‘young’ Mets rookie reliever in July of 1985 when I was a chunky 10 year old, didn’t hurt either. (I met him at the Mets hotel in Atlanta where I met all the 85 Mets players as a little chubby bastard).
The nicest Met that weekend (though 95% of them were great guys) was GRAY CARTER. My parents to this day talk about what a great guy he was 21 years ago.
I meant GARY not GRAY of course!
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