And that last at bat by LaRoche resulted in something absolutely no one would’ve expected.
(Yes, I’m being sarcastic.)
spike
on September 4, 2005 at 1:34 pm
Jinx – buy me french fries!
spike
on September 4, 2005 at 1:41 pm
Looks like Cox left HR in an inning too long
braves rule
on September 4, 2005 at 1:43 pm
walking bombs,Cincy
JoeyT
on September 4, 2005 at 1:54 pm
Kolb in the pen?
Why, Bobby? It’s a one run game.
JoeyT
on September 4, 2005 at 2:05 pm
Go McBride!
He got so lucky. That pitch was eye-level.
JoeyT
on September 4, 2005 at 2:14 pm
I think this all comes down to Marcus getting tired of hitting doubles.
ububba
on September 4, 2005 at 2:16 pm
Chipp-ah!
JoeyT
on September 4, 2005 at 2:18 pm
If we all scream “Farnsworth” loudly enough, will Bobby hear us?
Please no Kolb.
braves rule
on September 4, 2005 at 2:21 pm
no! Andruw, you missed a good chance!
ububba
on September 4, 2005 at 2:24 pm
Nice pick, Rochey
JoeyT
on September 4, 2005 at 2:30 pm
Langerhans would have held that to a single. Clearly, he should be starting over Francoeur.
Rob Cope
on September 4, 2005 at 2:31 pm
Wow, that was a good pick by LaRoche. Isn’t that what an intangible really is?
Another Alex R.
on September 4, 2005 at 2:32 pm
Getting Kyle Farnsworth for a 25-year old and a marginal prospect was the steal of the trading deadline.
JoeyT
on September 4, 2005 at 2:32 pm
Farnsworth is ridiculous. That trade looks better and better every day.
JoeyT
on September 4, 2005 at 2:34 pm
It probably wasn’t a “steal”. Colon is entering the rotation this week for the Tigers. Farnsworth wouldn’t have resigned with them. That was probably one of those win-win deals.
braves rule
on September 4, 2005 at 2:35 pm
whew.. Farns
Another Alex R.
on September 4, 2005 at 2:36 pm
True, but virtually every team in baseball wants a closer or to firm up their bullpen. A half-year rental of Farnsworth is better than any deal that any other team made.
Another Alex R.
on September 4, 2005 at 2:38 pm
By the way, the Phillies are losing 6-1. Good Lord, they suck.
Thank goodness we get to be in the NL East instead of the AL East or AL West.
JoeyT
on September 4, 2005 at 3:06 pm
Marcus is so hot, he even gets on base when he hits it right at a guy.
Another Alex R.
on September 4, 2005 at 3:09 pm
This is a question: why wouldn’t you just intentionally walk Andruw Jones every time Adam LaRoche was behind him in the order?
JoeyT
on September 4, 2005 at 3:09 pm
Wild Pitch on an intentional walk!
If LaRoche hits into a double play here, he should retire.
ALL YOU NEED IS A SAC FLY, ADAM!
ububba
on September 4, 2005 at 3:10 pm
Well, that was definitely hysterical.
However, the DP is still in order.
Kirk
on September 4, 2005 at 3:10 pm
I Laroche hits into a double play here, he should change his uniform number to 463 so that the scoring is easier to remember.
ububba
on September 4, 2005 at 3:11 pm
Contact, please…
JoeyT
on September 4, 2005 at 3:11 pm
That’s a good one, Kirk.
Kirk
on September 4, 2005 at 3:12 pm
Well, that’s one way to avoid a double play.
ububba
on September 4, 2005 at 3:13 pm
I think Narron’s been reading this forum.
Another Alex R.
on September 4, 2005 at 3:13 pm
Adam LaRoche reminds me a bit of Rafael Belliard at the plate, except he’s not quite as good in the clutch.
JoeyT
on September 4, 2005 at 3:13 pm
Langerhans needs to walk here.
Hell, I’d be tempted to put in KJ right now, just because he has a better eye and a walk wins it.
Jerry Narron
on September 4, 2005 at 3:14 pm
Curses! Foiled again!
ububba
on September 4, 2005 at 3:15 pm
Curses.
Is it time for the Kolb?
JoeyT
on September 4, 2005 at 3:16 pm
That inning was horrible. The Braves Rally Killers lived up to their billing. Even righty-lefty couldn’t save them.
braves rule
on September 4, 2005 at 3:17 pm
I am speechless with amazement.
Frank
on September 4, 2005 at 3:18 pm
Laroche sucks so bad I just can’t watch him anymore. Hollandsworth can play 1B, can’t he?
Another Alex R.
on September 4, 2005 at 3:19 pm
Smart move by Kolb, cleverly giving up a hit to set up a double play with Ken Griffey.
ububba
on September 4, 2005 at 3:20 pm
I love how, after Kolb gives up a hit or walk, TBS cuts to Leo & Bobby bitching to each other.
This is now officially scary.
Of course, Kolb probably thinks that should’ve been a DP.
JoeyT
on September 4, 2005 at 3:21 pm
I disagree with Alex R. on this. Kolb shouldn’t even be starting innings. He should only be pitching when the team is down by 7 or more.
He is a bad pitcher. Period.
Another Alex R.
on September 4, 2005 at 3:21 pm
Three foreseeable events: Adam LaRoche blows a chance to score a run, Dan Kolb gives up the go-ahead run, and Griffey gets injured.
Kirk
on September 4, 2005 at 3:22 pm
Utterly predictable (both Kolb coughing up the lead and Griffey pulling up lame).
Another Alex R.
on September 4, 2005 at 3:22 pm
I think we’re on the same wavelength.
ububba
on September 4, 2005 at 3:23 pm
Kolb is like bad karma. We’re being punished for something. This guy is like Pigpen in the Peanuts comics. Every time he shows up, everywhere he goes, the situation immediately gets worse.
JoeyT
on September 4, 2005 at 3:23 pm
I wonder who’s coming in for Griffey.
Whoever it is, hit the ball RIGHT at him.
Of course, if the score is 9-3 before Kolb’s finished, the point could be moot.
There is NO excuse for the Reds to be short a position play after September 1.
Another Alex R.
on September 4, 2005 at 3:25 pm
Good call, ububba.
So what’s the over/under on Kolb walking home a run, Kenny Rogers-style?
Another Alex R.
on September 4, 2005 at 3:26 pm
Oh.
I guess that could happen too.
Kirk
on September 4, 2005 at 3:26 pm
Well Joey T, you were only off by one.
ububba
on September 4, 2005 at 3:27 pm
8-3–almost there.
Could that keep Kolb off the playoff roster?
Piers
on September 4, 2005 at 3:27 pm
The inning’s not over yet Kirk…
Stu
on September 4, 2005 at 3:27 pm
At least there’s absolutely no way Bobby will be tempted to have Kolb on the postseason roster. The Griffey ball was good enough to be a double play without the shift, but other than that, Kolb just stunk. Argh.
down with kolb
on September 4, 2005 at 3:28 pm
somehow i throw all the blame on LaRoche. . somehow.
that and the fact that Kolb needs to shave.
JoshEngleman
on September 4, 2005 at 3:29 pm
At least this makes his ERA go up.
Kirk
on September 4, 2005 at 3:29 pm
The silver lining (well, maybe the tin lining) is that maybe, just maybe, this is the final nail in the Kolb coffin as far as appearing in meaningful situations.
Another Alex R.
on September 4, 2005 at 3:29 pm
Maybe we could convert Adam LaRoche to a relief pitcher, like Jorge Sosa?
ububba
on September 4, 2005 at 3:31 pm
Or maybe we can convert Dan Kolb to a Padre.
Piers
on September 4, 2005 at 3:31 pm
Maybe we could convert LaRoche into a mascot (a giant tomahawk or something).
braves rule
on September 4, 2005 at 3:31 pm
why? bobby? DON’T YOU THINK SO IT’S BAD TIMING?
ububba
on September 4, 2005 at 3:32 pm
Tomahawk? Kolb? Hmmm…
Stu
on September 4, 2005 at 3:32 pm
LaRoche sucks, but the idea of replacing him with Hollandsworth doesn’t really excite me. He hasn’t shown much since he’s gotten here, other than the LaRoche-esque ability to strike out on fastballs down the middle of the plate. Defensively, LaRoche is certainly better. We need to just play Julio until he collapses, at which point we stick in Betemit or Marte.
Another Alex R.
on September 4, 2005 at 3:33 pm
We could play Hampton at first base. That way, he wouldn’t get injured. (Or even if he did, it wouldn’t matter.)
JoeyT
on September 4, 2005 at 3:35 pm
I still can’t believe the Reds, after expanded rosters, are playing a catcher in the outfield.
Why aren’t they calling up some people?
Another Alex R.
on September 4, 2005 at 3:37 pm
When does LaRoche become a free agent?
JoeyT
on September 4, 2005 at 3:38 pm
A long time. He’s only in his second year. He’s not even at arbitration yet.
Another Alex R.
on September 4, 2005 at 3:40 pm
Speaking of which, I think I’m about ready to start dropping some f-bombs.
ububba
on September 4, 2005 at 3:40 pm
Tough stuff today.
Upsides: Phils & Fish lost. Kolb’s performance may render him radioactive for the playoff roster. We get the Mets tomorrow, which usually means good things.
Time to go mow the lawn.
JoeyT
on September 4, 2005 at 3:40 pm
I just … I just don’t know what to say about the Kolb fiasco.
It’s not like he earned some breathing room. He should have been on a short leash from pitch one. After two men got on, he should have been pulled.
Patrick
on September 4, 2005 at 3:41 pm
Well, I’m sure he’ll be traded in the offseason or released, thank God.
And Mac, I can’t wait to hear your post-game comments
Alex R.
on September 4, 2005 at 3:46 pm
To all,
Stu & I have spoken and we have come to a truce. All’s well that ends well.
No more cussing, that’s fine. But I am not the only one so I suppose if it makes some people happy we should all do it. But no more personal attacks from anyone on any other bloggers is also an agreeable point.
That said, we shouild all be sitting here making personal attacks on ADAM LAROCHE.
mac and I just sat on the phone the last ten minutes and I was about to blow a gasket on Adam LaRoche.
Bobby Cox cost us todays game. the Braves should have won this game in the bottom of the 11th and as far as I am concerned, Jerry Narron is a GENIUS for pitching around Andruw and Frenchy with LaRoche sandwiched in there. I knew when Giles stole second the inning was lost.
Though I would love to drop 20 f-bombs on Adam LaRoche right now and Cox, I won’t. I am not even mad at Kolbb. Kolbb did what kolbb does. I am just profoundly depressed right now abnout Cox batting LaRoche fifth. I am bordering on obssession of anger directed at Cox for not moving Frenchy uip to 5ht in the order.
The bottom line is you can’t have an MVP canidates batting 4th and a black hole hitting 5th. Then you get innings like the bottom of the 11th.
And how great would 6 games up on the Phillies be over 5 games? This loss really hurts because if the batting order had been done right in the first place, they may still pitch around Andruw, but then Frenchy comes up and ends it with even a fly ball.
Alex R.
braves rule
on September 4, 2005 at 3:48 pm
I’m serious.
the 5th spot-_-;;
Kirk
on September 4, 2005 at 3:49 pm
Well, that was a disappointing finish. At least the other eastern teams all split, so on the weekend we gained ground on the Phillies and Mets, stayed even with the Marlins and Nationals. Three more days are off the calendar. After Kolb gave up the lead run, Bobby left him in the game instead of pulling him. Either he didn’t want to burn another reliever just then, or he wanted to see how Kolb would finish the inning as a datapoint for deciding what his role will be going forward. I’m going to go with the latter.
Rob Cope
on September 4, 2005 at 3:51 pm
Hey Alex, how about no personal attacks on players too?
I think personal attacks on LaRoche are warranted. Attacks on Kolb are mandatory.
creynolds
on September 4, 2005 at 3:55 pm
It doesn’t have to get personal to attack a player. Ya know… I don’t have to say he’s a loser in life to say that, yes, at least now he do indeed suck.
Kirk
on September 4, 2005 at 3:57 pm
I too am frustrated that LaRoche is still batting 5th. It really takes a long time to get in Bobby’s doghouse.
braves rule
on September 4, 2005 at 4:07 pm
I’m so sorry everyone!
OFF TOPIC: dooky, you must read…
You live in Atlanta but Dodgers? I don’t wanna talk with you. LOL.
undelivered letter-_-;; I’m dummed out. Here’s the deal. Let’s post on your cy.
No, I wouldn’t. I’m surprised… Thank you all.You guys dandy! I’m really going to miss you guys, too.
This is it’s a bad news. My shoulders are stiff. I feel a sharp pain in the right arm over and over. No sign of recovery.-_-;; The Doc. strongly recommends that I?d better have some rest.
No surprise: two runs on two homers.
4 innings
HR vs Ramon Ortiz
Score 1-1
This page sums up my feelings on this.
If the Mets & Nats hang on & we can score our normal 7 or 9 runs against this bunch, this has a chance to be a pretty fruitful day.
And I guess I’m a little shocked Ortiz is even still pitching.
Ke…huk. Urgh!…Mac slugabed. Same here-_-;;
some runs, please
There, Marcus is hitting home runs again.
Well, you go, Marcus.
Oh, look, LaRoche hit into a double play.
And there you go Adam…
At least LaRoche is consistent.
Isn’t consistency an intangible?
Captain Intangible – consistent as always.
And that last at bat by LaRoche resulted in something absolutely no one would’ve expected.
(Yes, I’m being sarcastic.)
Jinx – buy me french fries!
Looks like Cox left HR in an inning too long
walking bombs,Cincy
Kolb in the pen?
Why, Bobby? It’s a one run game.
Go McBride!
He got so lucky. That pitch was eye-level.
I think this all comes down to Marcus getting tired of hitting doubles.
Chipp-ah!
If we all scream “Farnsworth” loudly enough, will Bobby hear us?
Please no Kolb.
no! Andruw, you missed a good chance!
Nice pick, Rochey
Langerhans would have held that to a single. Clearly, he should be starting over Francoeur.
Wow, that was a good pick by LaRoche. Isn’t that what an intangible really is?
Getting Kyle Farnsworth for a 25-year old and a marginal prospect was the steal of the trading deadline.
Farnsworth is ridiculous. That trade looks better and better every day.
It probably wasn’t a “steal”. Colon is entering the rotation this week for the Tigers. Farnsworth wouldn’t have resigned with them. That was probably one of those win-win deals.
whew.. Farns
True, but virtually every team in baseball wants a closer or to firm up their bullpen. A half-year rental of Farnsworth is better than any deal that any other team made.
By the way, the Phillies are losing 6-1. Good Lord, they suck.
Thank goodness we get to be in the NL East instead of the AL East or AL West.
Marcus is so hot, he even gets on base when he hits it right at a guy.
This is a question: why wouldn’t you just intentionally walk Andruw Jones every time Adam LaRoche was behind him in the order?
Wild Pitch on an intentional walk!
If LaRoche hits into a double play here, he should retire.
ALL YOU NEED IS A SAC FLY, ADAM!
Well, that was definitely hysterical.
However, the DP is still in order.
I Laroche hits into a double play here, he should change his uniform number to 463 so that the scoring is easier to remember.
Contact, please…
That’s a good one, Kirk.
Well, that’s one way to avoid a double play.
I think Narron’s been reading this forum.
Adam LaRoche reminds me a bit of Rafael Belliard at the plate, except he’s not quite as good in the clutch.
Langerhans needs to walk here.
Hell, I’d be tempted to put in KJ right now, just because he has a better eye and a walk wins it.
Curses! Foiled again!
Curses.
Is it time for the Kolb?
That inning was horrible. The Braves Rally Killers lived up to their billing. Even righty-lefty couldn’t save them.
I am speechless with amazement.
Laroche sucks so bad I just can’t watch him anymore. Hollandsworth can play 1B, can’t he?
Smart move by Kolb, cleverly giving up a hit to set up a double play with Ken Griffey.
I love how, after Kolb gives up a hit or walk, TBS cuts to Leo & Bobby bitching to each other.
This is now officially scary.
Of course, Kolb probably thinks that should’ve been a DP.
I disagree with Alex R. on this. Kolb shouldn’t even be starting innings. He should only be pitching when the team is down by 7 or more.
He is a bad pitcher. Period.
Three foreseeable events: Adam LaRoche blows a chance to score a run, Dan Kolb gives up the go-ahead run, and Griffey gets injured.
Utterly predictable (both Kolb coughing up the lead and Griffey pulling up lame).
I think we’re on the same wavelength.
Kolb is like bad karma. We’re being punished for something. This guy is like Pigpen in the Peanuts comics. Every time he shows up, everywhere he goes, the situation immediately gets worse.
I wonder who’s coming in for Griffey.
Whoever it is, hit the ball RIGHT at him.
Of course, if the score is 9-3 before Kolb’s finished, the point could be moot.
Dan Kolb sucks.
That is all.
There is NO excuse for the Reds to be short a position play after September 1.
Good call, ububba.
So what’s the over/under on Kolb walking home a run, Kenny Rogers-style?
Oh.
I guess that could happen too.
Well Joey T, you were only off by one.
8-3–almost there.
Could that keep Kolb off the playoff roster?
The inning’s not over yet Kirk…
At least there’s absolutely no way Bobby will be tempted to have Kolb on the postseason roster. The Griffey ball was good enough to be a double play without the shift, but other than that, Kolb just stunk. Argh.
somehow i throw all the blame on LaRoche. . somehow.
that and the fact that Kolb needs to shave.
At least this makes his ERA go up.
The silver lining (well, maybe the tin lining) is that maybe, just maybe, this is the final nail in the Kolb coffin as far as appearing in meaningful situations.
Maybe we could convert Adam LaRoche to a relief pitcher, like Jorge Sosa?
Or maybe we can convert Dan Kolb to a Padre.
Maybe we could convert LaRoche into a mascot (a giant tomahawk or something).
why? bobby? DON’T YOU THINK SO IT’S BAD TIMING?
Tomahawk? Kolb? Hmmm…
LaRoche sucks, but the idea of replacing him with Hollandsworth doesn’t really excite me. He hasn’t shown much since he’s gotten here, other than the LaRoche-esque ability to strike out on fastballs down the middle of the plate. Defensively, LaRoche is certainly better. We need to just play Julio until he collapses, at which point we stick in Betemit or Marte.
We could play Hampton at first base. That way, he wouldn’t get injured. (Or even if he did, it wouldn’t matter.)
I still can’t believe the Reds, after expanded rosters, are playing a catcher in the outfield.
Why aren’t they calling up some people?
When does LaRoche become a free agent?
A long time. He’s only in his second year. He’s not even at arbitration yet.
Speaking of which, I think I’m about ready to start dropping some f-bombs.
Tough stuff today.
Upsides: Phils & Fish lost. Kolb’s performance may render him radioactive for the playoff roster. We get the Mets tomorrow, which usually means good things.
Time to go mow the lawn.
I just … I just don’t know what to say about the Kolb fiasco.
It’s not like he earned some breathing room. He should have been on a short leash from pitch one. After two men got on, he should have been pulled.
Well, I’m sure he’ll be traded in the offseason or released, thank God.
And Mac, I can’t wait to hear your post-game comments
To all,
Stu & I have spoken and we have come to a truce. All’s well that ends well.
No more cussing, that’s fine. But I am not the only one so I suppose if it makes some people happy we should all do it. But no more personal attacks from anyone on any other bloggers is also an agreeable point.
That said, we shouild all be sitting here making personal attacks on ADAM LAROCHE.
mac and I just sat on the phone the last ten minutes and I was about to blow a gasket on Adam LaRoche.
Bobby Cox cost us todays game. the Braves should have won this game in the bottom of the 11th and as far as I am concerned, Jerry Narron is a GENIUS for pitching around Andruw and Frenchy with LaRoche sandwiched in there. I knew when Giles stole second the inning was lost.
Though I would love to drop 20 f-bombs on Adam LaRoche right now and Cox, I won’t. I am not even mad at Kolbb. Kolbb did what kolbb does. I am just profoundly depressed right now abnout Cox batting LaRoche fifth. I am bordering on obssession of anger directed at Cox for not moving Frenchy uip to 5ht in the order.
The bottom line is you can’t have an MVP canidates batting 4th and a black hole hitting 5th. Then you get innings like the bottom of the 11th.
And how great would 6 games up on the Phillies be over 5 games? This loss really hurts because if the batting order had been done right in the first place, they may still pitch around Andruw, but then Frenchy comes up and ends it with even a fly ball.
Alex R.
I’m serious.
the 5th spot-_-;;
Well, that was a disappointing finish. At least the other eastern teams all split, so on the weekend we gained ground on the Phillies and Mets, stayed even with the Marlins and Nationals. Three more days are off the calendar. After Kolb gave up the lead run, Bobby left him in the game instead of pulling him. Either he didn’t want to burn another reliever just then, or he wanted to see how Kolb would finish the inning as a datapoint for deciding what his role will be going forward. I’m going to go with the latter.
Hey Alex, how about no personal attacks on players too?
I think personal attacks on LaRoche are warranted. Attacks on Kolb are mandatory.
It doesn’t have to get personal to attack a player. Ya know… I don’t have to say he’s a loser in life to say that, yes, at least now he do indeed suck.
I too am frustrated that LaRoche is still batting 5th. It really takes a long time to get in Bobby’s doghouse.
I’m so sorry everyone!
OFF TOPIC: dooky, you must read…
You live in Atlanta but Dodgers? I don’t wanna talk with you. LOL.
undelivered letter-_-;; I’m dummed out. Here’s the deal. Let’s post on your cy.
No, I wouldn’t. I’m surprised… Thank you all.You guys dandy! I’m really going to miss you guys, too.
This is it’s a bad news. My shoulders are stiff. I feel a sharp pain in the right arm over and over. No sign of recovery.-_-;; The Doc. strongly recommends that I?d better have some rest.
I second everything said by braves rule.