I think it is something the Braves may discuss internally. It seems like it was soemthing they tired in the past with Wholers.
However, I think they will probably pass on the idea.
desert
on June 1, 2011 at 2:14 pm
June Swoon?
June Swoon.
In all honesty, I’m really not worried. For some reason, it seems that the most successful playoff teams of the last decade haven’t been all that hot until the middle or end of the season. I’m not saying that it’s good to be 5 back at the All-Star Break, but it’s not like the season’s over just yet.
Dan Uggla can’t be this bad. And if he is this bad, we’ve got bigger problems than missing the playoffs this season.
aside from swinging at balls, can anyone detect mechanical flaws in ugglas swing?
desert
on June 1, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Hmmm… So, I’m surely late on this, but it appears that the Mets might want to move David Wright either at the deadline or at the end of the season. And given the state of the Mets’ finances, it would seem that they might not have a choice in the matter.
Alderson’s probably too smart to fall for Brooks Conrad and Scott Proctor… right?
Ryan C,
It seems to me that’s he trying to pull everything by starting his swing way too early. I think more of the problem lies with his batting eye, as he’s actually swinging at less pitches in the strike-zone and swinging at (and making contact with) more pitches outside. He might be guessing a lot more these days, which would also explain why he’s starting his swing earlier.
Out of curiosity, was Uggla this ripped in Florida?
DowneasterJC
on June 1, 2011 at 2:29 pm
@47 from last thread
I’m not putting any stock into his AA numbers. What reason does he have to even bother trying to perform when it’s not going to get him anything but a sore shoulder?
His MLB numbers speak better of him anyway, and they’re a much larger sample size.
Having spent 17 years as a batting instructor and Triple A bench coach, I see a key mechanical flaw in Dan Uggla’s swing: he has been unable to make contact between the hitting utensil & the leather-wrapped, white projectile that is hurled by the opposite team’s pitcher.
In all of my years, I’ve seen a number of mechanical flaws that contribute to offensive batter’s ineffectiveness while engaged in the offensive posture at home plate. Lack of oil changes. Bad directions. Even bad hair cuts.
However, one sticks out more than the others: there is clearly an evident correlation between regular, consistent contact between hitting utensil & beforementioned projectile…AND effective engagement in successful offensive behaviour at home plate.
csg
on June 1, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Btw, Joe Mather, yes Joe Mather, had the same amount of RBI’s in May (7) as Heyward and Uggla combined. Nate also matched their combined HR total (2) also.
Nice AB there for Dan. Got the count full, reached on an error
Brian J.
on June 1, 2011 at 7:48 pm
I’d be happier about running Richard out of the game if San Diego didn’t have a very good bullpen, or if this team could hit any kind of pitching whatsoever.
drewdat
on June 1, 2011 at 7:54 pm
It should be OK as long as none of our pitchers or fielders make any mistakes whatsoever. And if we have a little good luck.
But, JC, he was so good in high school! And all the outs he has made don’t count!
Smitty
on June 1, 2011 at 8:17 pm
@66
Many of the balls he hit tonight would have broken the windows at his mom’s house, that is the only stat that should matter.
SMW-Schafer’s Mom’s Windows
Stu
on June 1, 2011 at 8:21 pm
He’s actually looked pretty good, tonight.
desert
on June 1, 2011 at 8:30 pm
@66,
Normally, I would laugh. But he’s definitely not made outs while he’s been up this year (with a .385 OBP). Anywhos, perhaps a better interpretation would be ‘He hit so many HR’s in high school!’
Dan
on June 1, 2011 at 8:33 pm
Is there a rule against pitchers catching a pop fly?
Brian J.
on June 1, 2011 at 8:36 pm
Dan, Dan, he’s the man, if he can’t ground out, no one can.
Stu
on June 1, 2011 at 8:45 pm
Jonny Venters amazes me.
Putter
on June 1, 2011 at 8:45 pm
Venters reminds me of Mike Stanton with way nastier stuff
Brian J.
on June 1, 2011 at 8:45 pm
Venters, he good.
Guillermo
on June 1, 2011 at 8:47 pm
Nasty Venters.
drew
on June 1, 2011 at 8:47 pm
Venters came into tonight sporting an ERA+ for the season of 712.
712.
Tomas
on June 1, 2011 at 8:50 pm
In all this misery of an offense, at least we get to marvel at how stupendously nasty Jonny Venters’ stuff is.
billy-jay
on June 1, 2011 at 8:50 pm
Johan Santana in his first year with the Mets: .141/.173/.205. Thankfully, Dan is still hitting better than that.
billy-jay
on June 1, 2011 at 8:50 pm
Although I’m pretty sure that Johan never batted higher than 9th.
Jeff M.
on June 1, 2011 at 8:51 pm
Johan has better stuff than Dan, too.
Brian J.
on June 1, 2011 at 8:53 pm
77- And Kimbrel’s, when he can locate the plate.
billy-jay
on June 1, 2011 at 8:55 pm
“Stuff?” Let’s stick to tangibles, man.
😀
Brian J.
on June 1, 2011 at 8:59 pm
Kimbrel’s having no control trouble so far…
Jeff M.
on June 1, 2011 at 9:01 pm
Tangibles? Is that what Johan was doing in the bushes to the left of the golf course?
Nope… We won March 31st which was the first game of March
JoeyT
on June 1, 2011 at 9:33 pm
I missed the last part of the game, so I went to the play-by-play on ESPN.
J Venters relieved E O’Flaherty. 3 4
J Bartlett struck out swinging. 3 4
C Headley struck out swinging. 3 4
R Ludwick struck out swinging. 3 4
Oh my. I think I’ll be visiting mlb.tv tonight.
JoeyT
on June 1, 2011 at 9:36 pm
What I love about this is that by designating the second or third best reliever the “closer,” Mr. G has accidentally given himself a situation where he can actually use his best reliever in critical situations. It’s like two “by the book” wrongnesses cancel each other out.
Stu
on June 1, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Recapped. For the record, I’m 1-0.
JoeyT
on June 1, 2011 at 9:58 pm
Schafer’s SLG is over 100 points lower than his OBP. That’s a pretty dramatic difference.
JoeyT
on June 1, 2011 at 9:58 pm
Schafer’s SLG is over 100 points lower than his OBP. That’s a pretty dramatic difference.
jjschiller @44,
I think it is something the Braves may discuss internally. It seems like it was soemthing they tired in the past with Wholers.
However, I think they will probably pass on the idea.
June Swoon?
June Swoon.
In all honesty, I’m really not worried. For some reason, it seems that the most successful playoff teams of the last decade haven’t been all that hot until the middle or end of the season. I’m not saying that it’s good to be 5 back at the All-Star Break, but it’s not like the season’s over just yet.
Dan Uggla can’t be this bad. And if he is this bad, we’ve got bigger problems than missing the playoffs this season.
New month, Mr. Uggla. Time to wake up.
aside from swinging at balls, can anyone detect mechanical flaws in ugglas swing?
Hmmm… So, I’m surely late on this, but it appears that the Mets might want to move David Wright either at the deadline or at the end of the season. And given the state of the Mets’ finances, it would seem that they might not have a choice in the matter.
Alderson’s probably too smart to fall for Brooks Conrad and Scott Proctor… right?
Ryan C,
It seems to me that’s he trying to pull everything by starting his swing way too early. I think more of the problem lies with his batting eye, as he’s actually swinging at less pitches in the strike-zone and swinging at (and making contact with) more pitches outside. He might be guessing a lot more these days, which would also explain why he’s starting his swing earlier.
Out of curiosity, was Uggla this ripped in Florida?
@47 from last thread
I’m not putting any stock into his AA numbers. What reason does he have to even bother trying to perform when it’s not going to get him anything but a sore shoulder?
His MLB numbers speak better of him anyway, and they’re a much larger sample size.
Uggla’s swing has gotten longer, says Don Sutton.
Having spent 17 years as a batting instructor and Triple A bench coach, I see a key mechanical flaw in Dan Uggla’s swing: he has been unable to make contact between the hitting utensil & the leather-wrapped, white projectile that is hurled by the opposite team’s pitcher.
In all of my years, I’ve seen a number of mechanical flaws that contribute to offensive batter’s ineffectiveness while engaged in the offensive posture at home plate. Lack of oil changes. Bad directions. Even bad hair cuts.
However, one sticks out more than the others: there is clearly an evident correlation between regular, consistent contact between hitting utensil & beforementioned projectile…AND effective engagement in successful offensive behaviour at home plate.
Btw, Joe Mather, yes Joe Mather, had the same amount of RBI’s in May (7) as Heyward and Uggla combined. Nate also matched their combined HR total (2) also.
Schafer
Prado
Chipper
Bmac
Freeman
AAG
Uggla
Mather
Hudson
So Husdon on 1-days rest huh? I kid.
@8 I’d hit one of those thumbs up buttons if there were one.
Hanson, sorry
Uggla in the seven spot?
It’s too bad that I’m incapable of feeling anything but contempt with regards to Fredi.
Tristan Cockcroft’s projections for Braves’ hitters the rest of the season (stats are from here going forward, not counting stats already accrued)
http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/baseball/flb/story?page=hitparade110601
Prado .301 10 HR 48 RBI
Uggla .251 20 HR 58 RBI
Heyward .279 13 HR 44 RBI
McCann .278 13 HR 57 RBI
Freeman .266 10 HR 49 RBI
If Cockcroft is even close to right with these numbers, the Braves should be just fine
That month of June during the 2006 season still lingers in peoples’ minds, apparently.
15,
I believe that’s actually a useful piece of information. I’ll take the over on everything except Prado’s BA and Uggla’s, well, everything.
16,
It seemed like there was a string of June’s for about five years in a row where we drastically underperformed our final season record.
I saw video of Adam Jones play in CF today.
I miss Andruw.
Whew.
Chipper Jones is like my grandpa, I love him, but every time he takes an awkward step I think he is going to break a hip and die.
GIDP by Uggla. Calling it.
Edit: Sad that that’s probably the best result that could be expected.
Can we get a blowout tonight?
How ’bout it Uggla Dan?
Guess not…
Why hasn’t anyone bunted yet?
Lol.. he would be up now.
What’s going on in here with this first inning offense experiment?
Hey: wasn’t a double play.
It’s too bad Uggla didn’t pull this when he got drafted in the Rule 5.
Free Brooks Conrad!
Uggla needs yoga or something. He’s all fouled up.
Everybody that inning had a good AB except for Uggla and Mather… Schafer’s AB was a loud out…. I’m getting worried about Uggla
Five hits for 2 runs… Somehow, even when we’re good, we’re still bad.
Uggla needs transcendental meditation . Uggla shall swing at pitches which are most melodious to his bat
he hasn’t really decided yet
Ballgame?
I guess Cheryl doesn’t look so awful now. Our pitchers are making this kid look like Piazza at his roidiest.
B-Mac’s blazing
Is that Freddie Gruidzielanek
I’d be happy with an Uggla bunt. It couldn’t turn out worse than his other ABs.
Textbook hitting, Freddie!
Even when Uggla hits it hard, that happens.
Nice short swing by Struggla there. Keep doing that and things will be fine.
I hope he retires.
One more at-bat and Dan’ll be driving on I-75. I vote that we tie him to an overpass.
I know he’s pretty dull, but I really like having Glavine in the booth.
Thanks for helping us clear the pitcher, SD. Math-man was clearly going to blow it anyways.
44- “And beware the mononeural Fredi Glitch! He will eat you if you do something right.”
43 — I’d rather have dull than Chip’s chimpanzee routine.
Nice work, Tommy.
If Uggla can continue to put swings on the ball similar to his last at bat he’ll be fine
Hey, good news everyone! Their second baseman has a batting average 45 points lower than our second baseman!
If Schafer was any kind of baseball player, he’d have beat that throw to first, right Emma?
Pretty obvious balk. And Prado was safe, anyway. Wow, complete umpiring fail.
Idiotic baserunning! Yep, the Braves are the same team in June as in May. God help us.
Funny, the first-base umpire doesn’t look like Bill Hohn.
It wasn’t idiotic baserunning, Brian Jordan. It was a balk. And he was safe
Nice AB there for Dan. Got the count full, reached on an error
I’d be happier about running Richard out of the game if San Diego didn’t have a very good bullpen, or if this team could hit any kind of pitching whatsoever.
It should be OK as long as none of our pitchers or fielders make any mistakes whatsoever. And if we have a little good luck.
Why does Fredi put our 2 shit heads up in the pen with 2 outs in the 6th inning? Has EOF died?
Schafer has forced deep counts almost every time up. Gotta love that
@59
Why would he have Schafer and Uggla up in the pen?
Prado! Team home run leader.
MARTIN! In a world of suck, it’s nice to know that there are people you can count on.
Pradohhhhhh… burn.
Jordan Schafer’s OPS is now .666.
But, JC, he was so good in high school! And all the outs he has made don’t count!
@66
Many of the balls he hit tonight would have broken the windows at his mom’s house, that is the only stat that should matter.
SMW-Schafer’s Mom’s Windows
He’s actually looked pretty good, tonight.
@66,
Normally, I would laugh. But he’s definitely not made outs while he’s been up this year (with a .385 OBP). Anywhos, perhaps a better interpretation would be ‘He hit so many HR’s in high school!’
Is there a rule against pitchers catching a pop fly?
Dan, Dan, he’s the man, if he can’t ground out, no one can.
Jonny Venters amazes me.
Venters reminds me of Mike Stanton with way nastier stuff
Venters, he good.
Nasty Venters.
Venters came into tonight sporting an ERA+ for the season of 712.
712.
In all this misery of an offense, at least we get to marvel at how stupendously nasty Jonny Venters’ stuff is.
Johan Santana in his first year with the Mets: .141/.173/.205. Thankfully, Dan is still hitting better than that.
Although I’m pretty sure that Johan never batted higher than 9th.
Johan has better stuff than Dan, too.
77- And Kimbrel’s, when he can locate the plate.
“Stuff?” Let’s stick to tangibles, man.
😀
Kimbrel’s having no control trouble so far…
Tangibles? Is that what Johan was doing in the bushes to the left of the golf course?
JORDAN SCHAFER FOR THE WIN!!!
Thank you, Jordan.
Winning is nice.
Hooray! We avoid getting swept by a last place team!
great play Schafer!!!!!
I don’t think McLouth gets that.
@84: Well played, sir.
Nice snag, kid.
bout time somebody gave him credit
NBC just described Roberto Luongo as “Silencing His Critics”.
well he has…. he’s been amazing for vancouver
It’s kind of a famous phrase around here
The Braves have won the first game of each month this season for every month except April
He’s been getting credit.
#96 – you know thats only been May and June then right?
“The Braves have won the first game of each month this season for every month except April”
Wow, that’s the most pointless fact ever written here. Aside from April, there has only been May and June.
Nope… We won March 31st which was the first game of March
I missed the last part of the game, so I went to the play-by-play on ESPN.
J Venters relieved E O’Flaherty. 3 4
J Bartlett struck out swinging. 3 4
C Headley struck out swinging. 3 4
R Ludwick struck out swinging. 3 4
Oh my. I think I’ll be visiting mlb.tv tonight.
What I love about this is that by designating the second or third best reliever the “closer,” Mr. G has accidentally given himself a situation where he can actually use his best reliever in critical situations. It’s like two “by the book” wrongnesses cancel each other out.
Recapped. For the record, I’m 1-0.
Schafer’s SLG is over 100 points lower than his OBP. That’s a pretty dramatic difference.
Schafer’s SLG is over 100 points lower than his OBP. That’s a pretty dramatic difference.