You did tell us about sherrill. In my opinion, his conditioning tells the story. Players just don’t let themselves go like that anymore. Eat the money cut his double-wide arse.
Smitty
on April 10, 2011 at 8:34 am
I say keep him. He could become the mop up guy
mraver
on April 10, 2011 at 9:43 am
I just found out that a lot of people don’t think Manny should make the HoF. Are they insane? He was really, REALLY good for a long time. Looking at BRef, I think I counted 8 consecutive silver sluggers? Career OPS of .996, career OPS+ of 156. 500 2B, 500 HRs, 2500 hits. Yes, he was a poor LF. But those are incredible numbers.
How about you do one of those Keltner lists for Manny, Mac?
sansho1
on April 10, 2011 at 9:50 am
Do you mean based solely on performance, regardless of PED usage? I’d like to read that case.
Tom
on April 10, 2011 at 11:44 am
Exactly. Nobody denies Manny’s numbers are HoF worthy, it’s all about the juice. Same with Bonds. For my 2 cents, both are in easily, PED or no, but I doubt it will happen first ballot.
I think some people want there to be SOME repercussion for failing PED tests not once, but twice. This guy clearly had no respect for the game or the rules. He’s obviously a first ballot HOFer by the numbers, but I can see how his “disrespect” rubs a lot of people the wrong way.
RobBroad4th
on April 10, 2011 at 12:02 pm
If they let Manny and Bonds in (and I do think they will eventually), how about getting Pete Rose in?
Rusty S.
on April 10, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Funny thing about Manny is, in 20 years, we’ll probably all be taking HGH like it was baby aspirin.
Carpool Tunnel Syndrome
on April 10, 2011 at 12:11 pm
They let Pud Galvin and Gaylord Perry in…
Timo
on April 10, 2011 at 12:39 pm
I hate Victorino. 7 for 10.
James
on April 10, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Uggla’s looked pretty good defensively so far.
Timo
on April 10, 2011 at 12:44 pm
I’m ready for see a Lowe shutout today. Unreal how he has turned it around.
MikeM
on April 10, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Geez, Nate. The whole stadium knew the changeup was coming there.
22 – Well, I’m probably not going to “apologize” to a guy who makes $7.5 million to play baseball. But I will indeed root for you to say “I told you so” at season’s end.
JoeyT
on April 10, 2011 at 1:34 pm
I-Rod? Maybe? I think that’s right. I remember Verlander’s being his second.
Milestones achieved, Chipper. Now retire and go kill unarmed mammals.
MikeM
on April 10, 2011 at 2:05 pm
At some point, you can’t just “tip your cap” to every starting pitcher as say “he just really had it going today”. At some point it becomes, our offense has some significant issues that allow pitchers to dominate.
Sucks for Lowe, who has had a very good start and won’t have anything to show for it.
JoeyT
on April 10, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Ever since the AL Cy Young last year, I’ve been comfortable thinking that no one really cares about pitching wins anymore. He gave a quality start, which is what he’ll have to show for it.
If the team ends up winning, even if he isn’t the pitcher of record, I’m sure he’ll be just fine with it.
Timo
on April 10, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Another great game by Lowe. Really a shame to waste it.
I have seen no evidence that this org preaches working the count or waiting for a good pitch. I’m sure they tell them to “be aggressive” and swing at that first pitch junk.
I understand that being aggressive is often effective. However, we’ve had a few prime opportunities and instead of making the pitcher work his way out we’ve slapped at the first pitch and given them the out.
Timo
on April 10, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Has Venters actually ever started or has he always been a reliever?
sdp
on April 10, 2011 at 2:33 pm
It’s April, people.
Trace
on April 10, 2011 at 2:34 pm
He was a pretty mediocre starter in the minors, I believe.
Trace
on April 10, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Btw, Conrad looks terrible.
Adam M
on April 10, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Conrad is just awful.
JoeyT
on April 10, 2011 at 2:38 pm
@40, fangraphs have evidence that refutes that. Last year, the Braves were #3 in the league in first pitch strike percentage. Braves hitters were actually really good at taking the first pitch last year. Only the Phillies and Brewers were better.
I know, I know, but I haven’t figured out a way to do design work and run at once.
rehabreject
on April 10, 2011 at 2:53 pm
the recap should say “then Kimbrel came in to pitch in the eighth because why not”
Adam M
on April 10, 2011 at 2:58 pm
This means that in three Lowe starts, the Braves have scored two total runs. Heyward’s home run on opening day was the last time they scored on a day he pitched.
Timo
on April 10, 2011 at 2:58 pm
Gute Nacht.
Alex R.
on April 10, 2011 at 2:59 pm
That was embarrassing. Our offense isn’t even Triple AAA level.
sdp
on April 10, 2011 at 3:00 pm
DAMMIT
stupup74
on April 10, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Someone finally pulled Victorino off of the team.
He was whipping their arse.
The Phillies just came in and made us their bitch, and then made us like it.
DowneasterJC
on April 10, 2011 at 3:05 pm
A hurr maybe this is why McClouth shouldn’t be hitting second you moron Gonzalez. It’s only nine games, but through nine the offense has looked like shit and I’m convinced it’s because a terrible hitter who’s only saving grace is being the default All-star on a team that he’s not even good enough to start for anymore is hitting in the damn two spot.
Until that changes, Gonzalez will be a terrible fucking manager.
Quick recap is up. It is very hard to see how McLouth, the only Brave who reached base twice today or had an extra base hit, is to blame for this debacle.
You did tell us about sherrill. In my opinion, his conditioning tells the story. Players just don’t let themselves go like that anymore. Eat the money cut his double-wide arse.
I say keep him. He could become the mop up guy
I just found out that a lot of people don’t think Manny should make the HoF. Are they insane? He was really, REALLY good for a long time. Looking at BRef, I think I counted 8 consecutive silver sluggers? Career OPS of .996, career OPS+ of 156. 500 2B, 500 HRs, 2500 hits. Yes, he was a poor LF. But those are incredible numbers.
How about you do one of those Keltner lists for Manny, Mac?
Do you mean based solely on performance, regardless of PED usage? I’d like to read that case.
Exactly. Nobody denies Manny’s numbers are HoF worthy, it’s all about the juice. Same with Bonds. For my 2 cents, both are in easily, PED or no, but I doubt it will happen first ballot.
I think some people want there to be SOME repercussion for failing PED tests not once, but twice. This guy clearly had no respect for the game or the rules. He’s obviously a first ballot HOFer by the numbers, but I can see how his “disrespect” rubs a lot of people the wrong way.
If they let Manny and Bonds in (and I do think they will eventually), how about getting Pete Rose in?
Funny thing about Manny is, in 20 years, we’ll probably all be taking HGH like it was baby aspirin.
They let Pud Galvin and Gaylord Perry in…
I hate Victorino. 7 for 10.
Uggla’s looked pretty good defensively so far.
I’m ready for see a Lowe shutout today. Unreal how he has turned it around.
Geez, Nate. The whole stadium knew the changeup was coming there.
Nate has a 3-1 count, and strikes out. Ugh.
If Prado isn’t hitting for average then he’s kind of a terrible lead off hitter. And I think the #2 hitter has been covered extensively already.
*Sigh* Did you guys see what Nate did for that fan? Seems like such a nice guy, but my opinion of him is tainted by his frustrating play.
Man.
Good damage control. Some offense would be nice.
This is a good trivia question.
Even McLouth looked surprised at the result there.
Way to go, Nate!!!!! Find a way to score, please!
I hope a good many of you will owe Nate an apology at the end of the season. If not, I will owe you one.
NOOOOOOO! That hurts.
I’m going to guess Varitek as one of them.
Olivo. That’s another.
22 – Well, I’m probably not going to “apologize” to a guy who makes $7.5 million to play baseball. But I will indeed root for you to say “I told you so” at season’s end.
I-Rod? Maybe? I think that’s right. I remember Verlander’s being his second.
I hope that hurt, Carlos.
ach man. you’re joking!
Our offense sucks.
Good at bat by Nate
First pitch!? Chipper, you know better.
Milestones achieved, Chipper. Now retire and go kill unarmed mammals.
At some point, you can’t just “tip your cap” to every starting pitcher as say “he just really had it going today”. At some point it becomes, our offense has some significant issues that allow pitchers to dominate.
Sucks for Lowe, who has had a very good start and won’t have anything to show for it.
Ever since the AL Cy Young last year, I’ve been comfortable thinking that no one really cares about pitching wins anymore. He gave a quality start, which is what he’ll have to show for it.
If the team ends up winning, even if he isn’t the pitcher of record, I’m sure he’ll be just fine with it.
Another great game by Lowe. Really a shame to waste it.
WHAT THE HELL IS UP WITH THE FIRST PITCH SWINGS?!
Maybe that’s Parrish’s thing…
I have seen no evidence that this org preaches working the count or waiting for a good pitch. I’m sure they tell them to “be aggressive” and swing at that first pitch junk.
I understand that being aggressive is often effective. However, we’ve had a few prime opportunities and instead of making the pitcher work his way out we’ve slapped at the first pitch and given them the out.
Has Venters actually ever started or has he always been a reliever?
It’s April, people.
He was a pretty mediocre starter in the minors, I believe.
Btw, Conrad looks terrible.
Conrad is just awful.
@40, fangraphs have evidence that refutes that. Last year, the Braves were #3 in the league in first pitch strike percentage. Braves hitters were actually really good at taking the first pitch last year. Only the Phillies and Brewers were better.
On the bright side… we cleared McLouth!
Wow… Tiger is going for it in Augusta.
I feel like I’m jinxing the team. Every time I sit down and watch they lose.
Bethany, you’re not supposed to sit and watch, you’re supposed to work out and watch.
I know, I know, but I haven’t figured out a way to do design work and run at once.
the recap should say “then Kimbrel came in to pitch in the eighth because why not”
This means that in three Lowe starts, the Braves have scored two total runs. Heyward’s home run on opening day was the last time they scored on a day he pitched.
Gute Nacht.
That was embarrassing. Our offense isn’t even Triple AAA level.
DAMMIT
Someone finally pulled Victorino off of the team.
He was whipping their arse.
The Phillies just came in and made us their bitch, and then made us like it.
A hurr maybe this is why McClouth shouldn’t be hitting second you moron Gonzalez. It’s only nine games, but through nine the offense has looked like shit and I’m convinced it’s because a terrible hitter who’s only saving grace is being the default All-star on a team that he’s not even good enough to start for anymore is hitting in the damn two spot.
Until that changes, Gonzalez will be a terrible fucking manager.
Quick recap is up. It is very hard to see how McLouth, the only Brave who reached base twice today or had an extra base hit, is to blame for this debacle.