Maybe there’s no Willingham because he’s been traded to us!
TheFlyingBernard
on July 28, 2010 at 3:09 pm
@1 What is that graphic trying to show? Why bother including the minimum ticket price if it’s basically the same for all teams? The disparity at the lower end is the number and availability of seats at that price, not the price itself. And focusing on the highest ticket price of each stadium also misses the point, which is how much are people actually paying to go to the game? Most people are going to buy tickets in the middle of that range.
Data that could make for an interesting list:
– What is the mean price for each seat in the stadium?
– What is the mean price for each ticket sold at the box office?
– What is the mean price for each ticket sold (including secondary markets: StubHub, craigslist, etc)?
One thing I’m looking into charting is how shifts in ticket prices affect attendance numbers.
sdp
on July 28, 2010 at 3:13 pm
I’m getting tired of trade rumors. C’mon 4:30 PM Saturday
Robert
on July 28, 2010 at 3:26 pm
Glaus down in the order
He was down there last night too. The game was over so fast you would be forgiven for missing it. Considering the rest of the lineup, I guess that’s about as far down as you could put him without be insulting about it.
Tiger224
on July 28, 2010 at 3:27 pm
Can we just hammer the dead-end Natties and give each other a big hug?
Maybe sing some Kumbahya.
Mac, you can have the solo.
spike
on July 28, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Stark thinks we are still interested in Willingham
Well, he’s younger than his half-brother, so he can’t be over sixty.
Robert
on July 28, 2010 at 4:04 pm
I’m (sort of) watching the Angels-Sox game right now, the Angels are trying the Johnny Wholestaff act the Nats pulled off last night. I guess I haven’t being paying attention, the Angels have come up with another righthanded reliever named Francisco Rodrigiuez? Shouldn’t he come up with a nickname or something to go by? It seems like he would get tired of the feedback that would go along trying to follow KRod.
I think Willingham is sitting for a game or two because he’s mired in a slump.
csg
on July 28, 2010 at 4:40 pm
he’s 1-20 vs Hudson…might as well sit him
JoeyT
on July 28, 2010 at 4:47 pm
@1, I’m kind of surprised the Braves’ best seats are so comparatively low. They get a lot of regional fans who travel from a good distance away. People who are only able to make one or two games a year would probably pay a premium for better seats.
Also, the cheapest seats in Turner Field are $4 for most people two nights a week (2-for-1 Tue and Wed). I like the fact that Atlanta ties the Rockies for the cheapest seats in baseball (unless the compilers neglected similar promotions from other clubs).
Nick
on July 28, 2010 at 4:59 pm
Am I the only one wondering what in the hell the deal is with the Venters suspension?
Is Bob Watson attempting to write his decision in Egyptian hieroglyphs or something?
csg
on July 28, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Carroll Rogers
July 28th, 2010
5:49 pm
Still no word on Venters. Looks like the decision won’t come down today. Venters went two innings last night, probably in part with the anticipation that he would start serving his suspension today. Didn’t work out that way.
The Nats have pushed back Craig Stammen and Scott Olsen will make his return from the DL tomorrow against the Braves. He’s been out with shoulder inflammation.
O’Flaherty has been given clearance to start doing some light throwing so he’s making progress. Not close to returning though. Wouldn’t count on him the rest of this road trip at the very least.
justhank
on July 28, 2010 at 5:50 pm
I expect the arrows when I dare to complain about McCann, but am I the only person here who thinks his horrible defense is a problem?
Love the guy. Wouldn’t trade him for the world. Want to move him permanently to 1B (and expect his good hitting and longevity would improve if we did so).
But defensively, he’s only an upgrade from Javy in that he calls a better game.
The Short, Happy Braves Life of Troy Glaus seems to be over and we can’t win if that is indeed the case. (Of course, I was wrong before about him and am hoping to be so again.)
Do you know how many passed balls McCann has this year? Three. There are eight catchers in the NL with more, but big whoop, the most anyone has is seven. It’s not a big deal. His CS% is .284, middle of the pack, but that’s not a big deal either. He does have the most errors in the league — nine. It just doesn’t matter very much. If catcher defense really means anything in this day and age, it’s about calling the game, which you admit he’s good at. But I don’t know that that matters either. I tend to think that the only difference that really matters is between the guy who can play the position and the guy who can’t, and McCann can.
It was a botched double steal, then the Nats botched a rundown…
Hinske struck out, and McCann stopped after breaking for 2nd when Pudge threw to 2nd. He got into a rundown, and Heyward broke for the plate. When the shortstop ran McCann back to first and threw to the first baseman, Heyward broke for the plate, and beat the first baseman’s throw home. McCann took 2nd on the throw home.
And because they’ve gotten close enough to keep an eye on, the Marlins coughed up four runs to the Giants in the 1st. Shame the D’Backs haven’t seen fit to follow suit against the Phillies, but the night is young.
spike
on July 28, 2010 at 6:31 pm
@43, karmic equilibrium for Jeffy’s HR last night
NickC
on July 28, 2010 at 6:33 pm
Is Chip Livan’s agent? Sounds like he’s trying to drum up interest in him despite everyone knowing exactly what he is.
If we don’t make a move, anybody want to try this?
Tell Infante that CF is his for the next week. See if he can handle it.
Would love to get his bat in the lineup and Melky’s inconsistent fat ass out of it.
(Maybe my problem with Melky is that when he’s not good, he’s terrible and looks terrible being terrible. He’s actually done a little better than I expected.)
Brian J.
on July 28, 2010 at 6:39 pm
Now there’s a temporary CF solution that won’t lead to 200 angry posts… so what fun would that be?
He obviously throws a lot slower than Hanson, but Livan, sometimes, has a similar motion. He varies it, though, while Hanson throws the same every pitch.
Call me crazy, but at this point I’m rooting for the Mets to beat the Cardinals.
Why? I’d love to see the Cards miss October baseball & I’ll take my chances with The Men From Flushing.
spike
on July 28, 2010 at 6:48 pm
The radio guys are actually having a reasonable discussion of sabremetrics, and it’s pretty clear they have actually looked into beyond a cursory dismissal. Strange times, indeed.
braves14
on July 28, 2010 at 6:49 pm
Both of those guys are intelligent, though, unlike Chip and Joe.
I heard Don talk about OPS yesterday and almost fainted.
spike
on July 28, 2010 at 6:52 pm
I wish I could find an email address for Powell. I’d send him an attaboy.
Holy Schnikes, Powell just recommended fangraphs.com
Brian J.
on July 28, 2010 at 6:53 pm
I just remembered who Nyjer Morgan reminds me of- Spike Owen from the old Expos. He could’ve been a Hall of Famer if he’d always been allowed to play the Braves.
I asked about Infante in CF about a month or two ago, that was shot down very quickly here too
Smitty
on July 28, 2010 at 7:29 pm
If Melky can play center, why not try Hudson out there.
csg
on July 28, 2010 at 7:41 pm
that helps
c. shorter
on July 28, 2010 at 7:48 pm
30 — Bethany, I thought Verdana was supposed to read well on a screen. What do you prefer?
Nick H
on July 28, 2010 at 7:52 pm
Did anyone else notice that Melky didn’t realize he drew a walk? He stood there several seconds until the ump told him to take his base. I guess when it happens so rarely, you forget what it’s like.
Tomas
on July 28, 2010 at 7:53 pm
Halladay up 4-0 now, Braves have to hold on to this.
@72 Verdana is a great screen font for body copy on the web (ariel or helvetica are better for headers, in my opinion). To blow it up and use it in a physical medium is just lazy and thoughtless. The comparison to comic sans is a bit over the top, I admit.
@77 Me too.
spike
on July 28, 2010 at 8:02 pm
@72, yeah, it’s a non-serif font. I use it for professional software applications all the time because it scales well.
Tomas
on July 28, 2010 at 8:03 pm
The Zombie is still pretty good at those slow choppers.
spike
on July 28, 2010 at 8:03 pm
@78, what scale are you talking about? And what do you like (srsly – I use fonts a lot, and am always looking for tips)
@81 I usually use verdana for smaller text, like the text we’re reading on this site. There are certain characters that I think read a bit awkward at gigantic sizes (above 30 points, maybe?) especially in all caps, like the Nationals are using on that sign. The face that the I has serifs on the top and bottom (compare to this “I”) has always thrown me off and the R is very wide.
Please don’t take anything I’m saying to heart, I am a font snob and I spend a good portion of my income on typefaces.
spike
on July 28, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Good god, from Manny to Pods. How do you pitch that to your fans?
Tomas
on July 28, 2010 at 8:12 pm
As awesome as Heyward’s swing is and the great ringing hits he puts on, I think I might be enjoying all his walks even more.
this is interesting
http://www.flipflopflyin.com/flipflopflyball/info-ticketprices.html
#1
Interesting, if slightly misleading.
Very few buy those ultra-high-end tickets at Yankee Stadium. That’s why you see rows and rows empty, lower-bowl seats at every single game.
There are plenty of uppers for $20 & $25 and for most weeknight games you can buy them—if not on Ticketmaster, then StubHub.
And you should never pay more than face value for a non-Yankee game at Citi Field.
Braves:
Prado – 2B
Heyward – RF
Jones – 3B
McCann – C
Hinske – LF
Glaus – 1B
Gonzalez – SS
Cabrera – CF
Hudson – P
Nationals:
Morgan – CF
Kennedy – 2B
Dunn – 1B
Zimmerman – 3B
Bernadina – RF
Rodriguez – C
Harris – LF
Desmond – SS
Hernandez – P
I doubt it feels that good to Moylan (maybe to Venters because he is just a rookie).
[absolutely one of my favorite songs, by the way]
no Willingham? thnx.
Glaus down in the order
Maybe there’s no Willingham because he’s been traded to us!
@1 What is that graphic trying to show? Why bother including the minimum ticket price if it’s basically the same for all teams? The disparity at the lower end is the number and availability of seats at that price, not the price itself. And focusing on the highest ticket price of each stadium also misses the point, which is how much are people actually paying to go to the game? Most people are going to buy tickets in the middle of that range.
Data that could make for an interesting list:
– What is the mean price for each seat in the stadium?
– What is the mean price for each ticket sold at the box office?
– What is the mean price for each ticket sold (including secondary markets: StubHub, craigslist, etc)?
One thing I’m looking into charting is how shifts in ticket prices affect attendance numbers.
I’m getting tired of trade rumors. C’mon 4:30 PM Saturday
Glaus down in the order
He was down there last night too. The game was over so fast you would be forgiven for missing it. Considering the rest of the lineup, I guess that’s about as far down as you could put him without be insulting about it.
Can we just hammer the dead-end Natties and give each other a big hug?
Maybe sing some Kumbahya.
Mac, you can have the solo.
Stark thinks we are still interested in Willingham
I’m guessing that Livan is one guy who can’t throw heat past Glaus.
Ububba,
I think I could throw heat past Glaus at this point. 🙂
Maybe Glaus can get beastly on that 65-MPH lollipop Livan likes to throw.
Anyone want to guess how old Livan will be when he finally hangs up his spikes? 43? 45? 47?
Do we even know his real age now?
Well, he’s younger than his half-brother, so he can’t be over sixty.
I’m (sort of) watching the Angels-Sox game right now, the Angels are trying the Johnny Wholestaff act the Nats pulled off last night. I guess I haven’t being paying attention, the Angels have come up with another righthanded reliever named Francisco Rodrigiuez? Shouldn’t he come up with a nickname or something to go by? It seems like he would get tired of the feedback that would go along trying to follow KRod.
CiscRod?
I think Willingham is sitting for a game or two because he’s mired in a slump.
he’s 1-20 vs Hudson…might as well sit him
@1, I’m kind of surprised the Braves’ best seats are so comparatively low. They get a lot of regional fans who travel from a good distance away. People who are only able to make one or two games a year would probably pay a premium for better seats.
Also, the cheapest seats in Turner Field are $4 for most people two nights a week (2-for-1 Tue and Wed). I like the fact that Atlanta ties the Rockies for the cheapest seats in baseball (unless the compilers neglected similar promotions from other clubs).
Am I the only one wondering what in the hell the deal is with the Venters suspension?
Is Bob Watson attempting to write his decision in Egyptian hieroglyphs or something?
Carroll Rogers
July 28th, 2010
5:49 pm
Still no word on Venters. Looks like the decision won’t come down today. Venters went two innings last night, probably in part with the anticipation that he would start serving his suspension today. Didn’t work out that way.
The Nats have pushed back Craig Stammen and Scott Olsen will make his return from the DL tomorrow against the Braves. He’s been out with shoulder inflammation.
O’Flaherty has been given clearance to start doing some light throwing so he’s making progress. Not close to returning though. Wouldn’t count on him the rest of this road trip at the very least.
I expect the arrows when I dare to complain about McCann, but am I the only person here who thinks his horrible defense is a problem?
Love the guy. Wouldn’t trade him for the world. Want to move him permanently to 1B (and expect his good hitting and longevity would improve if we did so).
But defensively, he’s only an upgrade from Javy in that he calls a better game.
The Short, Happy Braves Life of Troy Glaus seems to be over and we can’t win if that is indeed the case. (Of course, I was wrong before about him and am hoping to be so again.)
Do you know how many passed balls McCann has this year? Three. There are eight catchers in the NL with more, but big whoop, the most anyone has is seven. It’s not a big deal. His CS% is .284, middle of the pack, but that’s not a big deal either. He does have the most errors in the league — nine. It just doesn’t matter very much. If catcher defense really means anything in this day and age, it’s about calling the game, which you admit he’s good at. But I don’t know that that matters either. I tend to think that the only difference that really matters is between the guy who can play the position and the guy who can’t, and McCann can.
Alright Prado
I absolutely hate that they set the “NATIONALS PARK” sign behind home plate in freaking Verdana. Might as well use Comic Sans.
Whoop!!!!!
Chip sounds like he’s been sucking helium. I mean, more than usual.
Nicely done, Heyward!
Well that was making a silk purse from a sows ear.
LOL Heyward steals home
@31
Well, the ageless Livan Hernandez is throwing for the mighty men of the Potomac.
Heyward is a god.
That’s the sort of thing that usually happens to us.
Heyward steals home? This I’m sorry I didn’t get to see.
No, Heyward is the avatar of a god.
It was a botched double steal, then the Nats botched a rundown…
Hinske struck out, and McCann stopped after breaking for 2nd when Pudge threw to 2nd. He got into a rundown, and Heyward broke for the plate. When the shortstop ran McCann back to first and threw to the first baseman, Heyward broke for the plate, and beat the first baseman’s throw home. McCann took 2nd on the throw home.
SportsSouth tells us that Hudson has pitched better in his wins than in his losses. Good work, guys.
thats breaking news
Today’s search result: “martin prado father’s name”. Great, kidnappers.
well the Cards have posted 6 on Johan in the 1st
And because they’ve gotten close enough to keep an eye on, the Marlins coughed up four runs to the Giants in the 1st. Shame the D’Backs haven’t seen fit to follow suit against the Phillies, but the night is young.
@43, karmic equilibrium for Jeffy’s HR last night
Is Chip Livan’s agent? Sounds like he’s trying to drum up interest in him despite everyone knowing exactly what he is.
another reason to avoid FLA sports
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=100725/stadiumconcessions
click on the 100% category
If we don’t make a move, anybody want to try this?
Tell Infante that CF is his for the next week. See if he can handle it.
Would love to get his bat in the lineup and Melky’s inconsistent fat ass out of it.
(Maybe my problem with Melky is that when he’s not good, he’s terrible and looks terrible being terrible. He’s actually done a little better than I expected.)
Now there’s a temporary CF solution that won’t lead to 200 angry posts… so what fun would that be?
He obviously throws a lot slower than Hanson, but Livan, sometimes, has a similar motion. He varies it, though, while Hanson throws the same every pitch.
Call me crazy, but at this point I’m rooting for the Mets to beat the Cardinals.
Why? I’d love to see the Cards miss October baseball & I’ll take my chances with The Men From Flushing.
The radio guys are actually having a reasonable discussion of sabremetrics, and it’s pretty clear they have actually looked into beyond a cursory dismissal. Strange times, indeed.
Both of those guys are intelligent, though, unlike Chip and Joe.
I heard Don talk about OPS yesterday and almost fainted.
I wish I could find an email address for Powell. I’d send him an attaboy.
Holy Schnikes, Powell just recommended fangraphs.com
I just remembered who Nyjer Morgan reminds me of- Spike Owen from the old Expos. He could’ve been a Hall of Famer if he’d always been allowed to play the Braves.
Of course, who couldn’t you say that about?
sweet dp
Troy is really good at turning that 3 6 3 dp.
Yup.
Nifty DP, and a tough turn on both ends.
Melky is quickly taking a lead in the BJWB chase.
Melky gets the worst reads on fly balls.
I suspect that the fat from his fat face impairs his vision.
Hudson is reminding me of Maddux tonight.
Heyward in center couldn’t possibly be more clownish than Melky, or than Hinske in left.
@63
that was the point i was trying to make yesterday, but i guess it sounds better coming from you.
Looks like The Prado is back.
Livan’s from Cuba, Chip, I don’t think he minds the heat.
The Zombie comes through again!
Nice work, Chippah.
Let’s hear it for the ZC…
I asked about Infante in CF about a month or two ago, that was shot down very quickly here too
If Melky can play center, why not try Hudson out there.
that helps
30 — Bethany, I thought Verdana was supposed to read well on a screen. What do you prefer?
Did anyone else notice that Melky didn’t realize he drew a walk? He stood there several seconds until the ump told him to take his base. I guess when it happens so rarely, you forget what it’s like.
Halladay up 4-0 now, Braves have to hold on to this.
Okay, DC contingent, where was Melky partying last night?
The Phillies are getting ready to go on a 14-game winning streak.
Oh dear God I want Adam Dunn on this team.
@72 Verdana is a great screen font for body copy on the web (ariel or helvetica are better for headers, in my opinion). To blow it up and use it in a physical medium is just lazy and thoughtless. The comparison to comic sans is a bit over the top, I admit.
@77 Me too.
@72, yeah, it’s a non-serif font. I use it for professional software applications all the time because it scales well.
The Zombie is still pretty good at those slow choppers.
@78, what scale are you talking about? And what do you like (srsly – I use fonts a lot, and am always looking for tips)
ScotPod to the Dodgers. Because they missed Juan Pierre, I guess. C’mon, trade Kemp, you know you want to!
@81 I usually use verdana for smaller text, like the text we’re reading on this site. There are certain characters that I think read a bit awkward at gigantic sizes (above 30 points, maybe?) especially in all caps, like the Nationals are using on that sign. The face that the I has serifs on the top and bottom (compare to this “I”) has always thrown me off and the R is very wide.
Please don’t take anything I’m saying to heart, I am a font snob and I spend a good portion of my income on typefaces.
Good god, from Manny to Pods. How do you pitch that to your fans?
As awesome as Heyward’s swing is and the great ringing hits he puts on, I think I might be enjoying all his walks even more.
This text may be Verdana. I dunno.
82 pitches through 7
7IP 7H 0BB 7K
lots of 7’s
I’d guess it’s ariel, because the I’s don’t have serifs. Might be helvetica.
where does Posednik play with LAD?
I think this is Arial (standard non-specified sans-serif font I think), Verdana is a little wider and rounder.
[Looking it up] Yeah, it’s Arial.
Is Venters in again because they assume he’s gonna be suspended shortly?
hope this Venters kid holds up, he’s unreal
rookie pitchers
1st in ERA
8th in K’s (even counting rookies)
1st in BAA
1st in appearances (shocking I know)
#92 that and the fact that lefties cant touch him
So Dominic Brown has two hits and 2 RBIs……just saying
Dunn really had no chance there.
heyward really needs to quit flipping his bat at the plate
Someone was looking for a email address for Jim Powell earlier. He just gave one as radiobooth@braves.com.
He said my bad to the ump….quit making a big deal out nothing with Heyward and the bat flipping.
I didnt make a big deal about it, just making a comment
HA, per ESPN…
“so a double for Alex Rodriguez…let get you back out to shitty field”
Mets have come back to tie the Cards at 7.
Chip: “Tonight, Wagner and McCann are making sweet music and mincemeat of the Nationals.”
That sounds disgusting.
@98, thank you for that.
Nice work, Wags. Two more months like that.
Braves win!
good to see wagner close it out
Mets got bases loaded 7-7 in the 8th…this is the type of game that I hope they lose. Battle from 6 down to tie it late
Recapped.
Timmy is awesome.
Uggla is amazing.