AAR,
Haven’t heard a thing, really. The Braves are doing the usual “don’t tell anyone anything” routine and the media doesn’t seem too inclined to give the #35 overall pick much attention.
Plus we’ve got a brand new scouting director. No reads at all.
Really don’t think this means much at all, but the Braves had people at the GT-Mercer game last night.
Dan
on June 5, 2010 at 5:59 pm
I’d bat McLouth ninth on nights Kawakami or Hudson is pitching right now.
Robert
on June 5, 2010 at 6:04 pm
So I guess this is the second time we’ve traded our first round pick for a single season from a 40 year old lefty. I wonder if the front office thinks that’s a good deal or if they just haven’t figured out that that’s the deal they are actually making.
They just said Wren is at the Tech-Bama game right now, but not really for scouting purposes. They said his son signed with Tech so hes watching the game with him.
1,3 — I somehow got all 198. Got the last 2 in the last minute. Mike Heath and Ernie Whitt were desperation guesses.
Dan
on June 5, 2010 at 8:32 pm
Well I got all of 143 out of 198.
I didn’t follow the Braves until 2005, but still I shouldn’t have missed Pendleton, Klesko and Bream.
Mike N.
on June 5, 2010 at 8:42 pm
Go Jackets!
I hope this team doesn’t choke like the past few years, I’m tired of being disappointed in the post-season.
csg
on June 5, 2010 at 8:47 pm
167 for me….I couldnt remember Estrada, Thorman, Gant, Klesko, Bream and some others
Douglass
on June 5, 2010 at 9:00 pm
I got 187 of em.
I missed:
Jody Davis
Oddibe McDowell
Nick Esasky
Ernie Whitt
Jim Presley
Michael Tucker
Bret Boone (can’t believe I missed this one.)
Rico Brogna
John Burkett (only pitcher.)
Henry Blanco
and Scott Thorman (I must have repressed this memory.)
That was fun.
Douglass
on June 5, 2010 at 9:04 pm
I spent about half the time trying to remember Quilvio Veras’ name. I could see his friggin face in my head, but just couldn’t get it together. I finally remebered it in the end.
There’s obvious reason to believe the Braves will select Wheeler, a hard-throwing right-hander whose 6-foot-4 frame and easy delivery has drawn wide attention. The Orioles and Giants have definite interest and they could choose to take him with the fifth or sixth overall selections. If both Wheeler and Alex White, a top right-hander from the University of North Carolina, are both unavailable, it will be interesting to see if the Braves select Donovan Tate, an athletic outfielder from suburban Atlanta. Tate’s association with Scott Boras combined with the leverage he possesses from the opportunity to play both baseball and football at UNC, could lead the Braves to pass on the son of former University of Georgia running back, Lars Tate.
A fellow Tar Heel, Clark also has some interest in White and there is a growing belief the Braves will grab him if Wheeler is unavailable. If White and Wheeler are unavailable, a likely selection could be Shelby Miller, a right-handed high school pitcher from Brownwood, Texas.
It also didn’t even mention Mike Minor, so my feeling is these articles aren’t very useful.
Mike N.
on June 5, 2010 at 9:10 pm
To be 100% honest I only got Deion Sanders because I was convinced Reggie Sanders was in it for 2000. And Walt Weiss was one that took me forever to remember for some reason.
sdp
on June 5, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Our magic has run out.
Dan
on June 5, 2010 at 9:24 pm
Well, at least I did get Thorman.
sdp
on June 5, 2010 at 9:26 pm
I’d like to see Hanson be more agressive. He seems to have a tendency to nibble and try to coax outs instead of overpowering and shutting them down. Dude’s got dirty stuff–quit trying to pitch like Tom Glavine.
Chip (not Caray)
on June 5, 2010 at 9:34 pm
@25: He loves that slider to the back foot of lefty hitters. When he throws it right, it’s unhittable. Problem is, he doesn’t throw it right often enough. I agree with you– he’s doing too much nibbling, especially with 2 strikes. That fastball of his is often overpowering, but he either misses the zone or leaves it out there to get hit. Both are products of nibbling and putting yourself in a corner.
Chip (not Caray)
on June 5, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Billingsley doesn’t throw as hard as Tommy– he tops out at 91 or so– but because of that curve and slider, he becomes a power pitcher. Though it looks like he falls in love with the curve sometimes too.
ryan c
on June 5, 2010 at 9:43 pm
geez…nate just cant see that inside pitch.
Douglass
on June 5, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Life’s a beach when you live in southern California?!? Really, Chip?!? Really?!?
Nate hasn’t seen any pitch this entire season…with the exception of two:
big homer vs the Phils…and the big homer vs the Dbacks.
And he hates throwing home.
Douglass
on June 5, 2010 at 9:46 pm
You can see the insecurity in Nate’s eyes. He looks mentally unstable to me.
Tiger224
on June 5, 2010 at 9:48 pm
Immigrant Song by Led Zep.
Is Blake DeWitt legal?
Chip (not Caray)
on June 5, 2010 at 9:49 pm
I blame that hit by DeWitt on Chip. He couldn’t have jinxed Tommy anymore if he’d said “DeWitt’s got no chance to get a hit off Tommy Hanson here.”
Tiger224
on June 5, 2010 at 9:50 pm
I do like the Dodgers unis…I’d say amongst the best in MLB.
braves14
on June 5, 2010 at 9:51 pm
Chad Billingsley?!?
Brian J.
on June 5, 2010 at 9:51 pm
Oh, for the love of God, Tommy, no RBI doubles by the opposing pitcher!
ugalaw
on June 5, 2010 at 9:52 pm
Can’t believe I forgot about Ernie Whitt. He was a pretty solid catcher during the ’80s, but God in heaven was he bad for the Braves in ’90.
ryan c
on June 5, 2010 at 9:52 pm
tommy…not so sharp lately.
ryan c
on June 5, 2010 at 9:53 pm
why is billy wagner in the dugout and not the bullpen?
braves14
on June 5, 2010 at 9:54 pm
More questionable umpiring so far.
braves14
on June 5, 2010 at 9:56 pm
40 — Probably because it’s the 3rd inning.
Adam M
on June 5, 2010 at 9:57 pm
@39 His ERA since the start of May is over 5. It has, quietly, become something of an issue.
braves14
on June 5, 2010 at 9:59 pm
Are the Dodgers ever going to get a new stadium?
Brian J.
on June 5, 2010 at 10:04 pm
Why would they? Renovating Chavez Ravine went very well, and they’re third in MLB in attendance. They don’t need to spend $2 billion on a new stadium. Besides, California’s broke beyond broke, so no money would be available anyway.
braves14
on June 5, 2010 at 10:05 pm
I didn’t know they renovated. I just was wondering since they have the 2nd oldest stadium in the league.
sdp
on June 5, 2010 at 10:09 pm
I hope McOut hurt himself.
Brian J.
on June 5, 2010 at 10:10 pm
SDP, you should know by now that bad Braves have Wolverine’s healing factor.
they just showed a pic of garret anderson smiling…i didnt see that once last year.
mraver
on June 5, 2010 at 10:19 pm
Anyone else see Escobar pull Manny’s hand off the bag on that pickoff attempt?
braves14
on June 5, 2010 at 10:19 pm
52 — Nah, the Braves are just remembering that it is June.
braves14
on June 5, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Hanson already has 66 pitches through 3 innings.
braves14
on June 5, 2010 at 10:38 pm
Finally, an easy inning.
Chip (not Caray)
on June 5, 2010 at 10:45 pm
Now that was a rip by Omar. Nice!
Chip (not Caray)
on June 5, 2010 at 10:47 pm
Crap. J-Hey’s starting to beat the ball into the ground again. He did that earlier this year during one of his mini-slumps. Hope he can start driving it again.
td
on June 5, 2010 at 10:47 pm
Nice to see an easy inning for Hanson for a change. Hanson hasn’t had a great game so far tonight, but I’m not overly worried. The 8 ERs in 1.2 innings against the Reds has skewed his ERA (and other stats) in a big way. He’s only given up 2 runs and 1 run in his last 2 outings in 6 and 6.2 innings and a total of only 7 hits. He’ll be okay, just having a slightly tough game tonight. Hopefully the next two innings will be more like the 4th.
Tiger224
on June 5, 2010 at 10:57 pm
Kagan rules
braves14
on June 5, 2010 at 10:58 pm
100 pitches through 5. That is probably it.
braves14
on June 5, 2010 at 11:02 pm
Ok, I’m worried about McCann. He’s still hitting in the .240s and in that AB he tried hitting without glasses.
billy-jay
on June 5, 2010 at 11:09 pm
I can’t wait for Lowe to take the mound so the offense will wake up.
I see lots of people leaving, but I can’t tell if it’s because they’ve given up or because of the normal seventh-inning thing.
ugalaw
on June 5, 2010 at 11:46 pm
I always look forward to when the Braves go to Los Angeles. With Vin Scully, I usually learn more about the Braves the first time through the lineup than I have listening to the Braves announcers all season.
New poll. You know, if Andre Ethier were Ronnie Lott, he’d just cut that pinky off.
Tiger224
on June 5, 2010 at 11:56 pm
Ain’t this fun, folks?
Adam M
on June 5, 2010 at 11:58 pm
“I always look forward to when the Braves go to Los Angeles. With Vin Scully, I usually learn more about the Braves the first time through the lineup than I have listening to the Braves announcers all season.”
I learned tonight that the Braves don’t let anyone develop a slider until they’ve reached a certain threshold. Also, he’s basically up there on his own. I can’t imagine Chip trying to fill the void on his own for nine innings, nor can I imagine any of us after it happened just once.
braves14
on June 6, 2010 at 12:02 am
Hey, a knuckleball pitcher. Those seem like a dying breed.
drewdat
on June 6, 2010 at 12:03 am
Venters’ WHIP and ERA were/are the same, 1.21.
braves14
on June 6, 2010 at 12:07 am
Oh shit. The last thing we need is Prado getting hurt.
Also, the Braves have no backup infielders available.
I’m guessing that if Prado had to leave the game and Chipper is totally unavailable, Blanco would enter the game in center, McLouth would move to first, Glaus over to third, and Infante to second.
Frank
on June 6, 2010 at 12:09 am
Lousy OF play = gift hit for Prado
ryan c
on June 6, 2010 at 12:10 am
i sure would like to see the bases loaded for heyward against a knuckleballer.
Frank
on June 6, 2010 at 12:11 am
My guess–Blanco to LF, Hinskie to 3b or 1b, and Infante to 2b
braves14
on June 6, 2010 at 12:11 am
Can Ross play first?
mraver
on June 6, 2010 at 12:11 am
Not ideal, but they could move Glaus to 3B, Hinske to 1B and Infante over to 2B it it was necessary to pull Prado.
edit: err, never mind. 😀
braves14
on June 6, 2010 at 12:11 am
Hinske is out of the game.
Grst
on June 6, 2010 at 12:13 am
Nice to see some production out of McCann to pick up the slack from Heyward’s slump.
mraver
on June 6, 2010 at 12:13 am
quoth MLBTV: “Please wait. You request [which was to watch the game] will be processed in 65 seconds.”
I am confused as to the intent of the double switch. I guess Melky Cabrera’s bat and glove are so valuable you had to use both in 1 game.
It obviously wasn’t so the pitcher wouldn’t have to hit.
ugalaw
on June 6, 2010 at 12:23 am
Going back to the quiz about Braves lineups, I was pretty proud of myself for remembering Jim Presley. His ’90 performance for the Braves was selected by the Hardball Times as one of the ten worst ever for a #3 hitter.
Chip (not Caray)
on June 6, 2010 at 12:30 am
Is that Martinez kid ever gonna get to pitch? I would think tonight would have been a perfect opportunity.
It’s hard to fault Kimbrel too much. He gave up the first one that was hit pretty hard, but a strikeout/PB and a weak infield single aren’t really because he did anything wrong. For me, the bigger worry with Kimbrel is that it always feels like he’s walking a high wire, like the control’s gonna completely desert him at any moment.
Chip (not Caray)
on June 6, 2010 at 12:46 am
Nice comeback by Kimbrel there. Impressive to run through Kemp, Ethier, ManRam like that.
I got 178/198 on that lineup quiz from last thread. Don’t know enough about the 1989 and 1990 teams so those were the ones that did me in.
Most folks have probably seen this Chipper article, but just in case: http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Ao2OBBoCkubgtb4YlRw6JkMRvLYF?slug=ti-chipper060410
Likewise, 178. I’m embarrassed!
To all of our prospect-watchers: who are the Braves likely to take this weekend? Who are you hoping they’ll take?
1.Prado 2B, 2. Infante 3B, 3. Heyward RF, 4. McCann C, 5. Glaus 1B, 6. Hinske LF, 7. Escobar SS, 8. McLouth CF, 9. Hanson RH
AAR,
Haven’t heard a thing, really. The Braves are doing the usual “don’t tell anyone anything” routine and the media doesn’t seem too inclined to give the #35 overall pick much attention.
Plus we’ve got a brand new scouting director. No reads at all.
Really don’t think this means much at all, but the Braves had people at the GT-Mercer game last night.
I’d bat McLouth ninth on nights Kawakami or Hudson is pitching right now.
So I guess this is the second time we’ve traded our first round pick for a single season from a 40 year old lefty. I wonder if the front office thinks that’s a good deal or if they just haven’t figured out that that’s the deal they are actually making.
The mlb.com draft preview says look for hitters with questionable profiles (primarily college) at 35.
1.Prado 2B, 2. Infante 3B, 3. Heyward RF, 4. McCann C, 5. Glaus 1B, 6. Hinske LF, 7. Escobar SS, 8. McLouth CF, 9. Hanson P
Tim Kurkjian on Chipper.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/draft2010/columns/story?columnist=kurkjian_tim&id=5249761
They just said Wren is at the Tech-Bama game right now, but not really for scouting purposes. They said his son signed with Tech so hes watching the game with him.
So if Stupid Tech wins, it’s Wren’s fault.
1,3 — I somehow got all 198. Got the last 2 in the last minute. Mike Heath and Ernie Whitt were desperation guesses.
Well I got all of 143 out of 198.
I didn’t follow the Braves until 2005, but still I shouldn’t have missed Pendleton, Klesko and Bream.
Go Jackets!
I hope this team doesn’t choke like the past few years, I’m tired of being disappointed in the post-season.
167 for me….I couldnt remember Estrada, Thorman, Gant, Klesko, Bream and some others
I got 187 of em.
I missed:
Jody Davis
Oddibe McDowell
Nick Esasky
Ernie Whitt
Jim Presley
Michael Tucker
Bret Boone (can’t believe I missed this one.)
Rico Brogna
John Burkett (only pitcher.)
Henry Blanco
and Scott Thorman (I must have repressed this memory.)
That was fun.
I spent about half the time trying to remember Quilvio Veras’ name. I could see his friggin face in my head, but just couldn’t get it together. I finally remebered it in the end.
Was looking at last year’s MLB.com draft preview article. This one has some pretty classic Bowmanology:
There’s obvious reason to believe the Braves will select Wheeler, a hard-throwing right-hander whose 6-foot-4 frame and easy delivery has drawn wide attention. The Orioles and Giants have definite interest and they could choose to take him with the fifth or sixth overall selections. If both Wheeler and Alex White, a top right-hander from the University of North Carolina, are both unavailable, it will be interesting to see if the Braves select Donovan Tate, an athletic outfielder from suburban Atlanta. Tate’s association with Scott Boras combined with the leverage he possesses from the opportunity to play both baseball and football at UNC, could lead the Braves to pass on the son of former University of Georgia running back, Lars Tate.
A fellow Tar Heel, Clark also has some interest in White and there is a growing belief the Braves will grab him if Wheeler is unavailable. If White and Wheeler are unavailable, a likely selection could be Shelby Miller, a right-handed high school pitcher from Brownwood, Texas.
It also didn’t even mention Mike Minor, so my feeling is these articles aren’t very useful.
To be 100% honest I only got Deion Sanders because I was convinced Reggie Sanders was in it for 2000. And Walt Weiss was one that took me forever to remember for some reason.
Our magic has run out.
Well, at least I did get Thorman.
I’d like to see Hanson be more agressive. He seems to have a tendency to nibble and try to coax outs instead of overpowering and shutting them down. Dude’s got dirty stuff–quit trying to pitch like Tom Glavine.
@25: He loves that slider to the back foot of lefty hitters. When he throws it right, it’s unhittable. Problem is, he doesn’t throw it right often enough. I agree with you– he’s doing too much nibbling, especially with 2 strikes. That fastball of his is often overpowering, but he either misses the zone or leaves it out there to get hit. Both are products of nibbling and putting yourself in a corner.
Billingsley doesn’t throw as hard as Tommy– he tops out at 91 or so– but because of that curve and slider, he becomes a power pitcher. Though it looks like he falls in love with the curve sometimes too.
geez…nate just cant see that inside pitch.
Life’s a beach when you live in southern California?!? Really, Chip?!? Really?!?
:facepalm:
McLueless
Nate hasn’t seen any pitch this entire season…with the exception of two:
big homer vs the Phils…and the big homer vs the Dbacks.
And he hates throwing home.
You can see the insecurity in Nate’s eyes. He looks mentally unstable to me.
Immigrant Song by Led Zep.
Is Blake DeWitt legal?
I blame that hit by DeWitt on Chip. He couldn’t have jinxed Tommy anymore if he’d said “DeWitt’s got no chance to get a hit off Tommy Hanson here.”
I do like the Dodgers unis…I’d say amongst the best in MLB.
Chad Billingsley?!?
Oh, for the love of God, Tommy, no RBI doubles by the opposing pitcher!
Can’t believe I forgot about Ernie Whitt. He was a pretty solid catcher during the ’80s, but God in heaven was he bad for the Braves in ’90.
tommy…not so sharp lately.
why is billy wagner in the dugout and not the bullpen?
More questionable umpiring so far.
40 — Probably because it’s the 3rd inning.
@39 His ERA since the start of May is over 5. It has, quietly, become something of an issue.
Are the Dodgers ever going to get a new stadium?
Why would they? Renovating Chavez Ravine went very well, and they’re third in MLB in attendance. They don’t need to spend $2 billion on a new stadium. Besides, California’s broke beyond broke, so no money would be available anyway.
I didn’t know they renovated. I just was wondering since they have the 2nd oldest stadium in the league.
I hope McOut hurt himself.
SDP, you should know by now that bad Braves have Wolverine’s healing factor.
tommy…trust your curveball. its a beast.
Guess the evaluators were right when they said Hanson’s command comes and goes. Never really went last year.
He can’t really locate the fastball… again.
Hello, April.
they just showed a pic of garret anderson smiling…i didnt see that once last year.
Anyone else see Escobar pull Manny’s hand off the bag on that pickoff attempt?
52 — Nah, the Braves are just remembering that it is June.
Hanson already has 66 pitches through 3 innings.
Finally, an easy inning.
Now that was a rip by Omar. Nice!
Crap. J-Hey’s starting to beat the ball into the ground again. He did that earlier this year during one of his mini-slumps. Hope he can start driving it again.
Nice to see an easy inning for Hanson for a change. Hanson hasn’t had a great game so far tonight, but I’m not overly worried. The 8 ERs in 1.2 innings against the Reds has skewed his ERA (and other stats) in a big way. He’s only given up 2 runs and 1 run in his last 2 outings in 6 and 6.2 innings and a total of only 7 hits. He’ll be okay, just having a slightly tough game tonight. Hopefully the next two innings will be more like the 4th.
Kagan rules
100 pitches through 5. That is probably it.
Ok, I’m worried about McCann. He’s still hitting in the .240s and in that AB he tried hitting without glasses.
I can’t wait for Lowe to take the mound so the offense will wake up.
This umpire is rather outside strikey.
Ok, 118 pitches through 6. That’s surely it.
Hey, McOut got a hit!
That 500th career hit would be more impressive if he hadn’t entered the year with 495.
Brooks!
68,
lulz
Nice job, Brooks.
And good baserunning by Yunel on McLouth’s bloop.
There we go…
Prado is a good bunter.
Loney screwed up there. He should have nailed Prado in the back. At some point, they’ll learn to stop running in fair territory on bunts.
tommy in line for the win! WOOHOO!
well done, Omar!
OMAH!
Praise be to Kagan
Of course, we’re still two innings away from Wagner, the only reliever we should have any real confidence in.
Is it just me, or is Heyward standing farther away from the plate than he has been?
we need one of those safeco insurance runs.
Nah, it’s the angle. The camera in Atlanta and most places now is more centered than it is in Dodger Stadium.
Heyward is smarter than Snitker and knows that it’s Manny out there.
lol Heyward ignored Snitker
*exhale* That’s more like it.
heyward snitkered snitker…atta boy!
I’m now cautiously optimistic that Escobar has finally turned the corner for this season. Now we need McCann to do the same.
“It’s not the tale of 2 cities, like Dickens might have written, but it’s the tale of 2 different ballgames for the Braves.”
That’s just awful, Chip.
And so much for the Dodgers bullpen other than Broxton and Kuo.
I love this team and the way they battle back. It hasn’t been like this in many years.
TROY!!!!!!!
holy shit…we’re amazing.
@87 — We’ve gotten Vin Scully the last two nights on Extra Innings.
Boo-YAH! That’s our Troy. Nice 7-run inning there, guys. =)
This Glaus fellow can really hit.
91 — Lucky you.
10 batters in the inning now and the only out was the sacrifice bunt.
“We’ve gotten Vin Scully the last two nights on Extra Innings.”
Yep. The Escobar story he told last night was beautiful.
I can’t fathom being a Dodgers fan and listening to him every night.
I see lots of people leaving, but I can’t tell if it’s because they’ve given up or because of the normal seventh-inning thing.
I always look forward to when the Braves go to Los Angeles. With Vin Scully, I usually learn more about the Braves the first time through the lineup than I have listening to the Braves announcers all season.
New poll. You know, if Andre Ethier were Ronnie Lott, he’d just cut that pinky off.
Ain’t this fun, folks?
“I always look forward to when the Braves go to Los Angeles. With Vin Scully, I usually learn more about the Braves the first time through the lineup than I have listening to the Braves announcers all season.”
I learned tonight that the Braves don’t let anyone develop a slider until they’ve reached a certain threshold. Also, he’s basically up there on his own. I can’t imagine Chip trying to fill the void on his own for nine innings, nor can I imagine any of us after it happened just once.
Hey, a knuckleball pitcher. Those seem like a dying breed.
Venters’ WHIP and ERA were/are the same, 1.21.
Oh shit. The last thing we need is Prado getting hurt.
Also, the Braves have no backup infielders available.
Oh my God, Manny’s a carrier!
I’m guessing that if Prado had to leave the game and Chipper is totally unavailable, Blanco would enter the game in center, McLouth would move to first, Glaus over to third, and Infante to second.
Lousy OF play = gift hit for Prado
i sure would like to see the bases loaded for heyward against a knuckleballer.
My guess–Blanco to LF, Hinskie to 3b or 1b, and Infante to 2b
Can Ross play first?
Not ideal, but they could move Glaus to 3B, Hinske to 1B and Infante over to 2B it it was necessary to pull Prado.
edit: err, never mind. 😀
Hinske is out of the game.
Nice to see some production out of McCann to pick up the slack from Heyward’s slump.
quoth MLBTV: “Please wait. You request [which was to watch the game] will be processed in 65 seconds.”
FTW?
2 doubles…better keep the glasses off bmac.
The meltdown continues.
mraver, i havent been able to watch the game all night…
Why not give Moylan another day off, Bobby? You’re not going to use Wagner, too, are you?
I am confused as to the intent of the double switch. I guess Melky Cabrera’s bat and glove are so valuable you had to use both in 1 game.
It obviously wasn’t so the pitcher wouldn’t have to hit.
Going back to the quiz about Braves lineups, I was pretty proud of myself for remembering Jim Presley. His ’90 performance for the Braves was selected by the Hardball Times as one of the ten worst ever for a #3 hitter.
Is that Martinez kid ever gonna get to pitch? I would think tonight would have been a perfect opportunity.
Ugh. It’s just too much to ask for a clean win.
It’s hard to fault Kimbrel too much. He gave up the first one that was hit pretty hard, but a strikeout/PB and a weak infield single aren’t really because he did anything wrong. For me, the bigger worry with Kimbrel is that it always feels like he’s walking a high wire, like the control’s gonna completely desert him at any moment.
Nice comeback by Kimbrel there. Impressive to run through Kemp, Ethier, ManRam like that.
A month ago, I sure didn’t figure we’d be dropping 7-run innings on people.
Guess we just had to uncage the Glausbeast.
Recap/game thread.