Okay, discussion topic: If Perry plays well, or if Diaz comes up and he plays well, will the Braves still bring Francoeur back after the all-star break? Subtopic: Who would go to make room for Francoeur? (Assuming Perry is sent down when Diaz comes back.)
Stu
on July 5, 2008 at 3:22 pm
I’d guess Prado or Gotay.
Jeff M.
on July 5, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Gotay seems the logical answer since Prado is more likely not to make it through wavers. Of course a handy injury to either may be possible. And if they are bringing Diaz up, why not just let him be the other catcher and release Miller. I know that Diaz likely can’t catch, but then neither can Miller. As bad as Gotay has hit, he’s still got Miller beat by a few points, after all. Moreover, McCann’s playing nearly every inning of every game, so what difference would it really make?
Boomer
on July 5, 2008 at 3:30 pm
I figure they’d just send Perry back, even if he did play well.
I’m assuming Perry goes back when Diaz is activated.
Robert
on July 5, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Okay, discussion topic: If Perry plays well, or if Diaz comes up and he plays well, will the Braves still bring Francoeur back after the all-star break?
Yes, and it will, predictably, go badly.
Alzheimers'08!
on July 5, 2008 at 4:06 pm
I dont think its fair to assume that Jeff is going to suck when he gets back. The man obviously has talent, his head is just on wrong. A couple of weeks of beating up on AA hitting might do him wonders. If it doesnt, and his current level of sucktitude continues or worsens, well, then, different story.
Zingerman
on July 5, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Jeff Porcaro has to be in the top 10 drummers list right?
I’m guessing Perry goes back too unless he absolutely catches fire. Of course, as much as you hate JF”K”, Mac, I don’t think his job is in danger yet.
'Rissa
on July 5, 2008 at 5:07 pm
I think Frenchy will come back after they put Boyer on the DL when his arm falls off right before the All-Star Break. Then they’ll bring another relief pitcher up a day later when they DL Chipper who will strain a hamstring at the All-Star Game.
Tomas
on July 5, 2008 at 5:16 pm
I’d prefer to ditch Gotay if Perry is hitting for pretty much anything, 3 backup infielders should really be enough unless they are pinch-hitting maniacs and Gotay really hasn’t shown me anything to that end.
Prado has options and would be sent down first. At first, I would think to give Schafer a shot, since he’s holding his own at AA…but I can’t help but think that would be a mistake (one they made with Francoeur) since he’s still not hitting for much power.
Sadly, it’ll probably be Josh Anderson, who can run and play a little D, but not much else.
BTW- Frenchy’s AA return: 2-4 with a run scored, and *gasp* a walk! Both hits were singles
mraver
on July 5, 2008 at 6:18 pm
Frenchy would’ve thrown him out.
Stu
on July 5, 2008 at 6:18 pm
Or airmailed the catcher.
Kyle B.
on July 5, 2008 at 6:22 pm
These starts are way too familiar…
njbravesfan
on July 5, 2008 at 6:36 pm
They might teach Boyer to throw lefty as well, so they can run him out every single night.
I actually feel bad when i see the poor bastard run out there everynight, he cant be %100
Gee, out of touch for a few days (no TV, internet, etc.) & I miss all the fun. Imagine my relative surprise at discovering that #7 has a new residence.
What can you say? Had to be done. I mean, how bad do you have to be before you’re sent down?
And Douglass, sorry I stepped out on our cyberscrap the other day. But I really did have something to do—load a moving van. (Believe me, I’d rather scrap.)
Nonetheless, here’s an olive branch, if you like: I’ll not insult you and, for the sake of all, we try to refrain from the scat references.
mraver
on July 5, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Those last two innings have been disappointing. We should really be wrecking this guy. >_<
Kyle B.
on July 5, 2008 at 7:19 pm
One hit through 4 innings off a guy who didn’t play ball for three seasons. Fantastic. This is definitely JB’s fault.
Jeremy
on July 5, 2008 at 7:27 pm
Hahahaha!
Kyle B.
on July 5, 2008 at 7:29 pm
Divine intervention?
Cary
on July 5, 2008 at 7:29 pm
Well, I can’t really say that I’m enjoying my game thread that well considering we’re being one-hit by a total joker of a pitcher.
And I guess there’s no need to go with “Rosanna” if this is all Toto can do for us.
Yeah, but Bobby will probably send him out for another inning.
Jeff M.
on July 5, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Just clicked on hit zones on ESPN’s gamecast. Wow, Yunel’s definitely not a low ball hitter.
Jeff M.
on July 5, 2008 at 7:52 pm
And according to gamecast, he didn’t up his average there either.
Kyle B.
on July 5, 2008 at 7:55 pm
Tex’s first AB was a warning track shot. It carried a little further than Chipper’s hit in his first AB. I think KJ put a good hit on one to right center as well, but they weren’t anything Abercrombie couldn’t handle. Dude can fly.
Kyle B.
on July 5, 2008 at 8:00 pm
I really cherish these games when Skip is on TV instead of Chip. It makes you believe in a better baseball world.
Jeremy
on July 5, 2008 at 8:04 pm
Sigh.
Jeff M.
on July 5, 2008 at 8:04 pm
I’m not hearing Skip, so I’m left with the pessimism of the 4-1 score…ugh. I really wish TBS still broad casted the games.
Jeff M.
on July 5, 2008 at 8:05 pm
A successful rally sometime would be nice. I hate falling behind and feeling this certain that it’s over.
mraver
on July 5, 2008 at 8:07 pm
Weak.
Jeremy
on July 5, 2008 at 8:09 pm
Braves’ offense tonight: 4 hits (3 of those singles) and zero walks.
Anemic.
Jeremy
on July 5, 2008 at 8:11 pm
What’s gotten into Buddy?
jj3bagger
on July 5, 2008 at 8:16 pm
I would much prefer to leave Buddy is the role he is in now instead of any talk of putting him back in the rotation and sending Morton down.
Jeremy
on July 5, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Hmm. So this is what it would be like if you had a lineup of Francoeurs.
You know you suck when it takes to the ninth for anyone to have their fourth PA.
Jeff M.
on July 5, 2008 at 8:31 pm
No point to holding them here so we can get it close in the bottom of the 9th. Let ’em blow us out, I guess.
jj3bagger
on July 5, 2008 at 8:32 pm
Did anybody happen to catch the Nepotism boy update at the end of the Soriano article on the AJC ???? If that paragraph dedicated to him isn’t one of the more blatant cases of nepotism, I don’t know what is. I read it out loud to my dad, who had never heard of him, and he said “wonder how he got that job.”
mraver
on July 5, 2008 at 8:32 pm
Really, Jeff Bennett?
All six runs scored with two outs.
Whatever, I’m out.
Kyle B.
on July 5, 2008 at 8:34 pm
Shane Victorino and Mark Lorreta wish they could play the Braves everyday.
Cary
on July 5, 2008 at 8:36 pm
How can you not like a band with Janet Reno on drums?
Texas closer C.J. Wilson singled out Texeira and Kenny Lofton as guys who are only around to chase a buck. I would say that’s just one man’s opinion, but it seems to be more prevalent than that and doesn’t bode well for resigning Tex.
With this team going nowhere fast, perhaps it’s time to put Tex on the market after all. His recent hot streak should up his perceived value to a contender, which we’re not.
If the Brewers complete the LaPorta for Sabathia deal, we can say bye-bye to the Wild Card as well.
Jeff M.
on July 5, 2008 at 8:38 pm
Now we can score three or four and end up with another almost. This season has just sucked so far.
Jeff M.
on July 5, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Of course, scoring at all (even getting a hit) is pretty optimistic.
Kyle B.
on July 5, 2008 at 8:41 pm
From the AJC, circa #53:
“Jonathan Schuerholz, son of Braves president John Schuerholz, is five days into his new job as roving infield instructor for the Braves rookie league teams in Orlando and Danville, Va., and Class A Rome. Schuerholz played six years in the Braves minor league system as an infielder before retiring last August to finish his degree at Auburn.
“I can’t believe they’re paying me to do this,” said Schuerholz, who stopped by Braves batting practice Saturday.”
As a matter of fact, I CAN’T BELIEVE THEY ARE PAYING FOR YOU DO TO THAT. “Roving infield instructor.” Please.
Cary
on July 5, 2008 at 8:43 pm
Which is to say that the Phillies may have done us somewhat of a favor with the sweep. The illusion of winning the division should be gone. Florida can challenge the Phillies, but we should look toward next year(s).
Despite the outing tonight, at least we’ve unearthed a couple of good starters this year in Joseph Reyes and especially, my man, Jair Jurrjens. Hopefully, we can add Morton to that list. I’m still waiting on him though.
Jeff M.
on July 5, 2008 at 8:45 pm
I keep waiting for a bottom to this season, but it just keeps getting worse. June is over, the braves are supposed to start playing better again.
Jeremy
on July 5, 2008 at 8:46 pm
We suck.
Jeremy
on July 5, 2008 at 8:49 pm
Record thru 88 games:
2006: 39-49
2007: 46-42
2008: 41-47
Jeremy
on July 5, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Last 162: 79-83
'Rissa
on July 5, 2008 at 8:53 pm
#59—My thoughts exactly. “I can’t believe they’re paying you to do that either.” Seriously, is he really going to help any of those guys in the rookie and A leagues?
Of course, if I had a dad who was the president of a baseball club and I loved the game but wasn’t good enough to play in the majors, I would hope my dad would set me up with something like this, too.
I suppose JS has done enough for the organization we can let him do this (and it’s not like he’s blocking any players, like he was doing when he was playing). I guess he’s not hurting anyone as a “minor league infield roving instructor.”
Package Frenchy with Texeira to a contender for a cornucopia of top prospects.
'Rissa
on July 5, 2008 at 9:02 pm
From the newest article on Frenchy on the AJC site:
He still objects to how the Braves handled the matter, but then freely admits things had grown so bad, he couldn’t even watch himself in the tape room.
“I tried,” he said. “I watched some at-bats and you ask yourself, ‘What were you thinking?’ “
Even he couldn’t watch himself bat. I think that is kind of funny.
Go Braves!
Okay, discussion topic: If Perry plays well, or if Diaz comes up and he plays well, will the Braves still bring Francoeur back after the all-star break? Subtopic: Who would go to make room for Francoeur? (Assuming Perry is sent down when Diaz comes back.)
I’d guess Prado or Gotay.
Gotay seems the logical answer since Prado is more likely not to make it through wavers. Of course a handy injury to either may be possible. And if they are bringing Diaz up, why not just let him be the other catcher and release Miller. I know that Diaz likely can’t catch, but then neither can Miller. As bad as Gotay has hit, he’s still got Miller beat by a few points, after all. Moreover, McCann’s playing nearly every inning of every game, so what difference would it really make?
I figure they’d just send Perry back, even if he did play well.
Prado has options.
I’m assuming Perry goes back when Diaz is activated.
Okay, discussion topic: If Perry plays well, or if Diaz comes up and he plays well, will the Braves still bring Francoeur back after the all-star break?
Yes, and it will, predictably, go badly.
I dont think its fair to assume that Jeff is going to suck when he gets back. The man obviously has talent, his head is just on wrong. A couple of weeks of beating up on AA hitting might do him wonders. If it doesnt, and his current level of sucktitude continues or worsens, well, then, different story.
Jeff Porcaro has to be in the top 10 drummers list right?
I’m guessing Perry goes back too unless he absolutely catches fire. Of course, as much as you hate JF”K”, Mac, I don’t think his job is in danger yet.
I think Frenchy will come back after they put Boyer on the DL when his arm falls off right before the All-Star Break. Then they’ll bring another relief pitcher up a day later when they DL Chipper who will strain a hamstring at the All-Star Game.
I’d prefer to ditch Gotay if Perry is hitting for pretty much anything, 3 backup infielders should really be enough unless they are pinch-hitting maniacs and Gotay really hasn’t shown me anything to that end.
Looks like I’ll be at the game tonight. I’ll try to bring some good energy to the team and get us back on track.
So, if we lose it’s your fault.
lol
Here we go again.
Prado has options and would be sent down first. At first, I would think to give Schafer a shot, since he’s holding his own at AA…but I can’t help but think that would be a mistake (one they made with Francoeur) since he’s still not hitting for much power.
Sadly, it’ll probably be Josh Anderson, who can run and play a little D, but not much else.
BTW- Frenchy’s AA return: 2-4 with a run scored, and *gasp* a walk! Both hits were singles
Frenchy would’ve thrown him out.
Or airmailed the catcher.
These starts are way too familiar…
They might teach Boyer to throw lefty as well, so they can run him out every single night.
I actually feel bad when i see the poor bastard run out there everynight, he cant be %100
Jo Jo is not sharp at all tonight. 🙁
DAMN YOU, JB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, this one’s not working out…
Gee, out of touch for a few days (no TV, internet, etc.) & I miss all the fun. Imagine my relative surprise at discovering that #7 has a new residence.
What can you say? Had to be done. I mean, how bad do you have to be before you’re sent down?
And Douglass, sorry I stepped out on our cyberscrap the other day. But I really did have something to do—load a moving van. (Believe me, I’d rather scrap.)
Nonetheless, here’s an olive branch, if you like: I’ll not insult you and, for the sake of all, we try to refrain from the scat references.
Those last two innings have been disappointing. We should really be wrecking this guy. >_<
One hit through 4 innings off a guy who didn’t play ball for three seasons. Fantastic. This is definitely JB’s fault.
Hahahaha!
Divine intervention?
Well, I can’t really say that I’m enjoying my game thread that well considering we’re being one-hit by a total joker of a pitcher.
And I guess there’s no need to go with “Rosanna” if this is all Toto can do for us.
Unfortunately, I already wrote tomorrow’s game thread.
BMac!!
Now the Braves are getting two hit by a utility player.
It’s really absurd that there’s only one run on the board tonight. I mean, that’s, what, 3 almost-HRs? (to go with the one almost-not-a-HR?)
That was ridiculous.
Keeping track online… How close were the homers?
Nice outing from Acosta.
Yeah, but Bobby will probably send him out for another inning.
Just clicked on hit zones on ESPN’s gamecast. Wow, Yunel’s definitely not a low ball hitter.
And according to gamecast, he didn’t up his average there either.
Tex’s first AB was a warning track shot. It carried a little further than Chipper’s hit in his first AB. I think KJ put a good hit on one to right center as well, but they weren’t anything Abercrombie couldn’t handle. Dude can fly.
I really cherish these games when Skip is on TV instead of Chip. It makes you believe in a better baseball world.
Sigh.
I’m not hearing Skip, so I’m left with the pessimism of the 4-1 score…ugh. I really wish TBS still broad casted the games.
A successful rally sometime would be nice. I hate falling behind and feeling this certain that it’s over.
Weak.
Braves’ offense tonight: 4 hits (3 of those singles) and zero walks.
Anemic.
What’s gotten into Buddy?
I would much prefer to leave Buddy is the role he is in now instead of any talk of putting him back in the rotation and sending Morton down.
Hmm. So this is what it would be like if you had a lineup of Francoeurs.
You know you suck when it takes to the ninth for anyone to have their fourth PA.
No point to holding them here so we can get it close in the bottom of the 9th. Let ’em blow us out, I guess.
Did anybody happen to catch the Nepotism boy update at the end of the Soriano article on the AJC ???? If that paragraph dedicated to him isn’t one of the more blatant cases of nepotism, I don’t know what is. I read it out loud to my dad, who had never heard of him, and he said “wonder how he got that job.”
Really, Jeff Bennett?
All six runs scored with two outs.
Whatever, I’m out.
Shane Victorino and Mark Lorreta wish they could play the Braves everyday.
How can you not like a band with Janet Reno on drums?
Texas closer C.J. Wilson singled out Texeira and Kenny Lofton as guys who are only around to chase a buck. I would say that’s just one man’s opinion, but it seems to be more prevalent than that and doesn’t bode well for resigning Tex.
With this team going nowhere fast, perhaps it’s time to put Tex on the market after all. His recent hot streak should up his perceived value to a contender, which we’re not.
If the Brewers complete the LaPorta for Sabathia deal, we can say bye-bye to the Wild Card as well.
Now we can score three or four and end up with another almost. This season has just sucked so far.
Of course, scoring at all (even getting a hit) is pretty optimistic.
From the AJC, circa #53:
“Jonathan Schuerholz, son of Braves president John Schuerholz, is five days into his new job as roving infield instructor for the Braves rookie league teams in Orlando and Danville, Va., and Class A Rome. Schuerholz played six years in the Braves minor league system as an infielder before retiring last August to finish his degree at Auburn.
“I can’t believe they’re paying me to do this,” said Schuerholz, who stopped by Braves batting practice Saturday.”
As a matter of fact, I CAN’T BELIEVE THEY ARE PAYING FOR YOU DO TO THAT. “Roving infield instructor.” Please.
Which is to say that the Phillies may have done us somewhat of a favor with the sweep. The illusion of winning the division should be gone. Florida can challenge the Phillies, but we should look toward next year(s).
Despite the outing tonight, at least we’ve unearthed a couple of good starters this year in Joseph Reyes and especially, my man, Jair Jurrjens. Hopefully, we can add Morton to that list. I’m still waiting on him though.
I keep waiting for a bottom to this season, but it just keeps getting worse. June is over, the braves are supposed to start playing better again.
We suck.
Record thru 88 games:
2006: 39-49
2007: 46-42
2008: 41-47
Last 162: 79-83
#59—My thoughts exactly. “I can’t believe they’re paying you to do that either.” Seriously, is he really going to help any of those guys in the rookie and A leagues?
Of course, if I had a dad who was the president of a baseball club and I loved the game but wasn’t good enough to play in the majors, I would hope my dad would set me up with something like this, too.
I suppose JS has done enough for the organization we can let him do this (and it’s not like he’s blocking any players, like he was doing when he was playing). I guess he’s not hurting anyone as a “minor league infield roving instructor.”
Abbreviated recap is up. Fire L’il Jonny.
Package Frenchy with Texeira to a contender for a cornucopia of top prospects.
From the newest article on Frenchy on the AJC site:
He still objects to how the Braves handled the matter, but then freely admits things had grown so bad, he couldn’t even watch himself in the tape room.
“I tried,” he said. “I watched some at-bats and you ask yourself, ‘What were you thinking?’ “
Even he couldn’t watch himself bat. I think that is kind of funny.
Only 56 days until toe meets leather…