You know what I like about Medlen? He didn’t totally have it last night, but he throws strikes, and he really pounds the bottom of the strike zone. He’s not exactly a sinkerballer, but he works down. SO different from Lowe, who as far as I can tell is the only sinkerballer in history who pitches up in the zone.
John Gaines
on May 30, 2010 at 9:24 am
For what ever reason, I usually don’t watch the video you post, but I’ve really enjoyed these numbers from Pirates of Penzance. And since this is the first time I’ve heard of it, my brain will now forever associate The Pirates of Pittsburgh with the Pirates of Penzance.
@5 and 6…
against a left-hander and chipper receiving his weekly rest, i dont know what you guys could seriously want. that is not a bad lineup. atleast we actually have an incredibly competent utility infielder and backup catcher who are both ops’ing in the mid .700s.
put it this way…it’s better than what the pirates put out on a daily basis.
Trace
on May 30, 2010 at 10:26 am
This is pretty much the same lineup as last Sunday with the addition of Heyward, and it sure makes a huge difference with him in the 3 hole.
Dan
on May 30, 2010 at 10:40 am
Did McCann die? I must have missed some news since he is not playing right now.
Brian J.
on May 30, 2010 at 10:46 am
A strained right quadriceps has kept McCann out since Wednesday. Even if he were healthy, I’d sit him today so that he could be in for all three games against the Phillies.
Andrew B
on May 30, 2010 at 10:57 am
that lineup is far better than the one we saw on last sunday in pittsburgh. take heyward out for clevlen and prado out for conrad and thats what we had last sunday. considering chipper is taking a day off, which is fine with me, and hinske is sitting due to a LHP, this lineup really is fine.
Weldon
on May 30, 2010 at 11:23 am
And we don’t really need to press the issue with McCann when the Pirates are throwing all these lefties.
DOB says 90% chance of rain by 3 this afternoon. Might go late today.
Hanan
on May 30, 2010 at 11:53 am
I could handle that lineup if LF and CF weren’t so anemic. But given that, and McCann is still out, Chipper needs to play.
@13 – But given that, and McCann is still out, Chipper needs to play. I actually like Ross against lefties right now more than I would McCann. Not saying it will stay that way, but McCann is really struggling against them. And LF is actually hitting pretty good right now (at least for him). I just wish we could get McClouth back on track or get him out of the lineup.
And Chipper needs to sit. Last thing we need is for him to tweak a hammy or quad b/c he isn’t getting his rest.
So I finished figuring out my first pass at +/- for pitchers. This doesn’t take into account earned runs, unearned runs, “luck” or anything else complicated. I currently have +/- defined as +1 for every inning in which the pitcher pitches and no runs are scored which are related to them. A -1 for every run scored for which they are “involved”: either they put the runner on or were pitching when he advanced or were pithing when he scored. So I can use this as a counting stat or I can divide by the innings pitched and get, what I think, is a better idea of how things go when that pitcher is in the game. Here is what I have for the season so far:
Starters –
Lowe 0.174
Jurrjens -0.243
KK -0.02
Hudson 0.563
Hanson 0.29
Medlen 0.469
Some of these guys are “small sample size” but I think it does an ok job of ranking the pitchers. Obviously the goal is to approach 1 so pitchers with the most positive numbers rank higher. When I compare how this ranks the starters with my non-analytical opinion it comes out pretty close (from top to bottom):
Hudson, Medlen, Hanson, Lowe, KK, JJ. Medlen and JJ are where they are probably because of small sample size but it doesn’t surprise me to see Hudson at the top and Lowe and KK close to each other. That’s all I’ve got.
spike
on May 30, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Kenshin knocked 11 points off his era that inning.
Brian J.
on May 30, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Interesting- Weather Channel radar shows all the rain east of town. Unless new showers spring up in the west, they shouldn’t have any trouble getting the game in.
RobBroad4th
on May 30, 2010 at 12:47 pm
I forgot how great Kevin Klein was at physical comedy. “Pirates” and “A Fish Called Wanda” are pretty great.
spike
on May 30, 2010 at 12:50 pm
Just had a tiny sprinkle here by the stadium, but that’s it. Looks good for the next couple of hours at least
spike
on May 30, 2010 at 12:50 pm
There’s your lead Ken. Now quit complaining.
Weldon
on May 30, 2010 at 1:06 pm
@28 – The dancing scene from In and Out is pretty hilarious too.
Rob Cope
on May 30, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Kenshin is prime example as to why baseball is truly a team sport. Kenshin is 0-7, and we could very well have a pitcher who is 7-0. But it is still very possible that after 14 starts, the team could be 7-7 in games they started. Kenshin could go 0-20 this year, and I wouldn’t necessarily have a problem with it. We’re going to lose 20 games a season anyway, and I don’t really care who they are attributed to. As long as Kenshin is eating innings and keeping the runs down, I don’t care what his record is.
spike (back in the USA)
on May 30, 2010 at 1:13 pm
well that sucked.
Jeremy
on May 30, 2010 at 1:14 pm
What the hell is wrong with Nate McLouth?
Tom
on May 30, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Boy does McLouth suck! He ruined the whole inning, maybe the whole game with this horrible AB.
Tiger224
on May 30, 2010 at 1:20 pm
#34 – Yes, let me ask again: What in the hell is wrong with Nate McLouth?
Brian J.
on May 30, 2010 at 1:21 pm
At least KK’s doing his job. Yes, against the Pirates, but still.
ryan c
on May 30, 2010 at 1:22 pm
if yassir proves to have the ability to get on base, mclouth might acquire an overnight case of tendinitis.
Stephen in the UAE
on May 30, 2010 at 1:22 pm
McLouth–Free Gregor Blanco!…
Parish
on May 30, 2010 at 1:27 pm
When McLouth struck out, I tuned out.
You basically knew he insured the Braves would not score. Bases loased and no out.
Meanwhile, Glaus!
Stephen in the UAE
on May 30, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Glaus!
Adam M
on May 30, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Nice to see a couple hits from Escobar today. When that BABIP regresses it’s gonna be fun to watch.
Brian J.
on May 30, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Can McLouth redeem himself?
Edit: Of course not. What were you thinking?
Hanan
on May 30, 2010 at 1:35 pm
McLOB
Adam M
on May 30, 2010 at 1:35 pm
No.
sdp
on May 30, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Diving catches are way overrated.
braves14
on May 30, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Melky is likely to take McLouth’s job tomorrow with Hinske back in LF. That’s pretty bad, Nate.
Tom
on May 30, 2010 at 1:39 pm
I say: Let’s get 5 innings in, 2-0, and then pray for rain.
Brian J.
on May 30, 2010 at 1:44 pm
KK’s ERA is now 0.3 run better than our leader (and tied for the league’s #2) in wins. In other news, life still isn’t fair.
JoeyT
on May 30, 2010 at 2:04 pm
I love that when Heyward is struck out looking, it’s because he was right, and the ump screwed up. His eye is incredible.
Parish
on May 30, 2010 at 2:05 pm
False statement by Chip. Drink.
Parish
on May 30, 2010 at 2:07 pm
FYI – Chip said the Braves entered the day a half game behind the Phils. Not his worst mistake, but he should know.
braves14
on May 30, 2010 at 2:20 pm
KK’s era is now a respectable 4.39.
Weldon
on May 30, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Ok, Chip just made me laugh with the Timothy Leary joke.
#54–With 10 LOB in 6 innings the Braves are making it a challenge….
Brian J.
on May 30, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Dammit. No win today, either.
Jon K
on May 30, 2010 at 2:40 pm
@54
Thanks for the jinx
putter
on May 30, 2010 at 2:41 pm
That ws predictable after the BS call on the strikeout but thats what they get for leaving that many on base
Bethany
on May 30, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Why do the baseball gods hate Kenshin?
Tom
on May 30, 2010 at 2:42 pm
The umpiring in this series has been horrible. Again.
Dan
on May 30, 2010 at 2:44 pm
Kawakami will never win another game….
Hanan
on May 30, 2010 at 2:48 pm
The Phillies were shut out again today. They almost didn’t score last night for Halladay, but Maybin helped them out with a misjudged fly ball and they actually leaked a run across. I wonder if they find their stroke against the Braves? if so, i’d bet on Wednesday with Lowe pitching.
JoeyT
on May 30, 2010 at 3:09 pm
That was a good at-bat from McLouth.
Jon K
on May 30, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Little flare…. little flare…LITTLE FLARE!!!!!!!!! haha nice call by chip there
Brian J.
on May 30, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Chipper’s a zombie no more!
John Gaines
on May 30, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Zombie!
Jeremy
on May 30, 2010 at 3:18 pm
It’ll look like a line drive in the box score.
JoeyT
on May 30, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Fantastic. Joe Simpson just called it a Ric Flair. I like that better than Chip’s Rain Man call.
JoeyT
on May 30, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Heyward is too good to be true.
sdp
on May 30, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Heyward = unreal.
I almost feel sorry for the Pirates.
Brian J.
on May 30, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Yeah, this Heyward guy could be something special one day.
c. shorter
on May 30, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Mr. Heyward comes through again.
Jeremy
on May 30, 2010 at 3:24 pm
Tom Glavine: “Not a very good 0-2 pitch.”
Krugerindustrialsmoothing
on May 30, 2010 at 3:24 pm
might I suggest that our next few draft picks be spent on either current blood relatives or as yet unborn children of Heyward.
Brian J.
on May 30, 2010 at 3:25 pm
Heyward now has three triples in his last 11 games, along with four doubles and two homers.
Dan
on May 30, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Did Chip Caray say “took a little off” on a 95 MPH pitch?
c. shorter
on May 30, 2010 at 3:30 pm
75 – yep.
sdp
on May 30, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Ballgame.
JoeyT
on May 30, 2010 at 3:32 pm
After nine straight losses, this season got awesome in a hurry.
timo
on May 30, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Man, the Braves are fun to watch nowadays.
Brian J.
on May 30, 2010 at 3:33 pm
And that’s that. Now to knock the Phillies out of phirst.
Mark Graybill
on May 30, 2010 at 3:34 pm
If Chipper’s a zombie, it must be noted that Heyward is just as inhuman–but in a good way. Maybe he should by Cyborg Heyward?
Mike N.
on May 30, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Heyward is a T-800
PaulV
on May 30, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Chip was just early saying Braves were 1/2 game out
I’d like to see Ross in the lineup one more time today.
Me too, sdp.
You know what I like about Medlen? He didn’t totally have it last night, but he throws strikes, and he really pounds the bottom of the strike zone. He’s not exactly a sinkerballer, but he works down. SO different from Lowe, who as far as I can tell is the only sinkerballer in history who pitches up in the zone.
For what ever reason, I usually don’t watch the video you post, but I’ve really enjoyed these numbers from Pirates of Penzance. And since this is the first time I’ve heard of it, my brain will now forever associate The Pirates of Pittsburgh with the Pirates of Penzance.
1. Prado 2B, 2. Infante 3B, 3. Heyward RF, 4. Glaus 1B, 5. Escobar SS, 6. Cabrera LF, 7. Ross C, 8. McLouth CF, 9. Kawakami RHP
he’s in there again and heyward is where he needs to be. however, i’m guessing this is not a sign of things to come.
But seriously, that lineup…. Yeesh.
Once again, no going for the sweep. *Sigh*
@5 and 6…
against a left-hander and chipper receiving his weekly rest, i dont know what you guys could seriously want. that is not a bad lineup. atleast we actually have an incredibly competent utility infielder and backup catcher who are both ops’ing in the mid .700s.
put it this way…it’s better than what the pirates put out on a daily basis.
This is pretty much the same lineup as last Sunday with the addition of Heyward, and it sure makes a huge difference with him in the 3 hole.
Did McCann die? I must have missed some news since he is not playing right now.
A strained right quadriceps has kept McCann out since Wednesday. Even if he were healthy, I’d sit him today so that he could be in for all three games against the Phillies.
that lineup is far better than the one we saw on last sunday in pittsburgh. take heyward out for clevlen and prado out for conrad and thats what we had last sunday. considering chipper is taking a day off, which is fine with me, and hinske is sitting due to a LHP, this lineup really is fine.
And we don’t really need to press the issue with McCann when the Pirates are throwing all these lefties.
DOB says 90% chance of rain by 3 this afternoon. Might go late today.
I could handle that lineup if LF and CF weren’t so anemic. But given that, and McCann is still out, Chipper needs to play.
Heyward for MVP.
@13 – But given that, and McCann is still out, Chipper needs to play. I actually like Ross against lefties right now more than I would McCann. Not saying it will stay that way, but McCann is really struggling against them. And LF is actually hitting pretty good right now (at least for him). I just wish we could get McClouth back on track or get him out of the lineup.
And Chipper needs to sit. Last thing we need is for him to tweak a hammy or quad b/c he isn’t getting his rest.
Heyward for President.
Heyward for Pope?
Heyward for God.
God for Heyward
Heyward for the father of my children
that would be impressive.
Trick Question…. Heyward is God.
What time is the rain supposed to start?
@22, On the contrary, God prays to Jason Heyward.
So I finished figuring out my first pass at +/- for pitchers. This doesn’t take into account earned runs, unearned runs, “luck” or anything else complicated. I currently have +/- defined as +1 for every inning in which the pitcher pitches and no runs are scored which are related to them. A -1 for every run scored for which they are “involved”: either they put the runner on or were pitching when he advanced or were pithing when he scored. So I can use this as a counting stat or I can divide by the innings pitched and get, what I think, is a better idea of how things go when that pitcher is in the game. Here is what I have for the season so far:
Starters –
Lowe 0.174
Jurrjens -0.243
KK -0.02
Hudson 0.563
Hanson 0.29
Medlen 0.469
Bullpen –
Moylan 0.545
Saito 0.448
Wagner 0.632
JoJo -1.667
EOF 0.5
Chavez -0.145
Venters 0.778
Kimmbrel 0.6
Martinez -1.5
Some of these guys are “small sample size” but I think it does an ok job of ranking the pitchers. Obviously the goal is to approach 1 so pitchers with the most positive numbers rank higher. When I compare how this ranks the starters with my non-analytical opinion it comes out pretty close (from top to bottom):
Hudson, Medlen, Hanson, Lowe, KK, JJ. Medlen and JJ are where they are probably because of small sample size but it doesn’t surprise me to see Hudson at the top and Lowe and KK close to each other. That’s all I’ve got.
Kenshin knocked 11 points off his era that inning.
Interesting- Weather Channel radar shows all the rain east of town. Unless new showers spring up in the west, they shouldn’t have any trouble getting the game in.
I forgot how great Kevin Klein was at physical comedy. “Pirates” and “A Fish Called Wanda” are pretty great.
Just had a tiny sprinkle here by the stadium, but that’s it. Looks good for the next couple of hours at least
There’s your lead Ken. Now quit complaining.
@28 – The dancing scene from In and Out is pretty hilarious too.
Kenshin is prime example as to why baseball is truly a team sport. Kenshin is 0-7, and we could very well have a pitcher who is 7-0. But it is still very possible that after 14 starts, the team could be 7-7 in games they started. Kenshin could go 0-20 this year, and I wouldn’t necessarily have a problem with it. We’re going to lose 20 games a season anyway, and I don’t really care who they are attributed to. As long as Kenshin is eating innings and keeping the runs down, I don’t care what his record is.
well that sucked.
What the hell is wrong with Nate McLouth?
Boy does McLouth suck! He ruined the whole inning, maybe the whole game with this horrible AB.
#34 – Yes, let me ask again: What in the hell is wrong with Nate McLouth?
At least KK’s doing his job. Yes, against the Pirates, but still.
if yassir proves to have the ability to get on base, mclouth might acquire an overnight case of tendinitis.
McLouth–Free Gregor Blanco!…
When McLouth struck out, I tuned out.
You basically knew he insured the Braves would not score. Bases loased and no out.
Meanwhile, Glaus!
Glaus!
Nice to see a couple hits from Escobar today. When that BABIP regresses it’s gonna be fun to watch.
Can McLouth redeem himself?
Edit: Of course not. What were you thinking?
McLOB
No.
Diving catches are way overrated.
Melky is likely to take McLouth’s job tomorrow with Hinske back in LF. That’s pretty bad, Nate.
I say: Let’s get 5 innings in, 2-0, and then pray for rain.
KK’s ERA is now 0.3 run better than our leader (and tied for the league’s #2) in wins. In other news, life still isn’t fair.
I love that when Heyward is struck out looking, it’s because he was right, and the ump screwed up. His eye is incredible.
False statement by Chip. Drink.
FYI – Chip said the Braves entered the day a half game behind the Phils. Not his worst mistake, but he should know.
KK’s era is now a respectable 4.39.
Ok, Chip just made me laugh with the Timothy Leary joke.
Kenshin Kawakami is in danger of winning a game.
#54–With 10 LOB in 6 innings the Braves are making it a challenge….
Dammit. No win today, either.
@54
Thanks for the jinx
That ws predictable after the BS call on the strikeout but thats what they get for leaving that many on base
Why do the baseball gods hate Kenshin?
The umpiring in this series has been horrible. Again.
Kawakami will never win another game….
The Phillies were shut out again today. They almost didn’t score last night for Halladay, but Maybin helped them out with a misjudged fly ball and they actually leaked a run across. I wonder if they find their stroke against the Braves? if so, i’d bet on Wednesday with Lowe pitching.
That was a good at-bat from McLouth.
Little flare…. little flare…LITTLE FLARE!!!!!!!!! haha nice call by chip there
Chipper’s a zombie no more!
Zombie!
It’ll look like a line drive in the box score.
Fantastic. Joe Simpson just called it a Ric Flair. I like that better than Chip’s Rain Man call.
Heyward is too good to be true.
Heyward = unreal.
I almost feel sorry for the Pirates.
Yeah, this Heyward guy could be something special one day.
Mr. Heyward comes through again.
Tom Glavine: “Not a very good 0-2 pitch.”
might I suggest that our next few draft picks be spent on either current blood relatives or as yet unborn children of Heyward.
Heyward now has three triples in his last 11 games, along with four doubles and two homers.
Did Chip Caray say “took a little off” on a 95 MPH pitch?
75 – yep.
Ballgame.
After nine straight losses, this season got awesome in a hurry.
Man, the Braves are fun to watch nowadays.
And that’s that. Now to knock the Phillies out of phirst.
If Chipper’s a zombie, it must be noted that Heyward is just as inhuman–but in a good way. Maybe he should by Cyborg Heyward?
Heyward is a T-800
Chip was just early saying Braves were 1/2 game out
The Braves are now tied for the Wild Card lead.
Recapped.