I know I’m going to ruffle some feathers here, but I’m not sure George Harrison was a superstar. He could do everything well, but I’m not sure he was ever truly at the level of a Tom Glavine or a Lou Gehrig, a born collaborator who was clearly one of the finest people in the profession in his own right. I think Harrison was more of a Mark McLemore: a spectacular sideman who was behind the Lennon/McCartney first string for a reason.
Douglass
on April 16, 2010 at 2:11 pm
Feathers: ruffled.
Douglass
on April 16, 2010 at 2:12 pm
All Things Must Pass > Lennon and McCartney’s post-Beatles bodies of work combined
jjschiller
on April 16, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Yeah gotta go with Douglass here. Have you even HEARD All Things Must Pass????
Kevin Lee
on April 16, 2010 at 2:23 pm
@1
Maybe you had to be there, AAR.
Tell me; consider Eddie Matthews. Never the best player on his team. Never the best player in his league.
Superstar?
justhank
on April 16, 2010 at 2:27 pm
They also serve who stand and let Clapton play their solos for them.
Seriously, George was probably a glue guy keeping John and Paul from killing each other. And when on his own proved to be a fine songwriter.
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How could I be so blind? Wren’s genius is finally being revealed to me:
Trade our best starter to the Yankees for “hot minor league prospects” and watch him struggle as he did before. Then, trade him straight up for Jo-Jo. Genius, I tellya.
You could almost hear DLowe’s agent guffawing “what a maroon” as Wren signed the last of the stupid money contracts.
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Can you imagine how far the ball will go when Heyward starts hitting the ball on the sweet spot instead of the label. And did you see how fast he got from second to home on the ONE-HOP LINE DRIVE TO LEFT?
I think soon (though it will be difficult) the Braves need to move Heyward to #3 and Chipper to #5 (or #6). The difference in speed at the top of the order is too pronounced to be ignored.
Dix
on April 16, 2010 at 2:37 pm
What happens if Heyward doesn’t stop growing?
ryan c
on April 16, 2010 at 2:47 pm
He’ll become John Henry and die a young, glorious death.
RobBroad4th
on April 16, 2010 at 2:53 pm
I like “FEAR THE PRADO” way more than “It’s Melky-licious.” Especially since it’s not at all these days.
@6, I would love to see Heyward move to the #3 spot. The next time Chipper gets hurt, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Bobby “experiment” with putting him there.
Spike
on April 16, 2010 at 2:54 pm
Eddie Matthews was probably the second or third greatest 3b of all time, depending on how you rate that sort of thing. The fact that he did so at a time when there were a lot of inner circle hof’s playing doesn’t change that. Harrison, who ihave a on of respect for just ain’t in that class for me, as a guitarist or writer
jjschiller
on April 16, 2010 at 3:02 pm
I have Harrison ahead of Winwood, Burdon, Townshend, but behind Lennon and McCartney, and Brian Jones, Keith Richards.
I even have Harrison ahead of Clapton. All on the strength of All Things Must Pass.
Great record. That comes to a matter of taste. I can’t say anything of the ‘artistic or technical merits’ of ATMP that would put it ahead of Derek and the Dominos.. Just that I like it better. Point WELL taken though.
@15 – I think that happened on a Saturn I had at one time.
Mark Graybill
on April 16, 2010 at 3:16 pm
“I’d put the Derek & The Dominos record ahead of ATMP. But that’s just me.”
No, it’s not just you–I’m right there with you.
But–and I know this might ruffle some feathers, start some arguments, etc.–Harrison’s “If I Needed Someone” might be my favorite Beatles’ song. “You Like Me Too Much” is also really swell–an adult love song in a time when adolescence ruled.
I’ll always be grateful to George Harrison for his incorporating sitar and other instruments from Indian classical music into rock, though Brian Jones probably got there first (“Paint It Black”).
18,
There’s a street in Atlanta off Piedmont, just north of 14th street, called “The Prado”. I looked at a house on the street a few weeks ago, but it was out of our price range. It would’ve been pretty awesome to be able to say I live on The Prado.
Douglass
on April 16, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Plastic Ono Band better than All Things Must Pass, lol
Adam R
on April 16, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Old Hari Krishna got nothing on you. Just keep you crazy with nothing to do.
I should add that while I’m unabashedly a Beatles guy, “Paint It, Black” is almost certainly my favorite sitar-driven pop track. I tend to like the Stones best when they’re at their most ominous.
Ethan
on April 16, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Backup day!
1. Nate McLouth CF
2. Martin Prado 2B
3. Chipper Jones 3B
4. Eric Hinske 1B
5. Yunel Escobar SS
6. Jason Heyward RF
7. Melky Cabrera LF
8. David Ross C
9. Derek Lowe P
Though I’m not sure why Ross is hitting 8th.
Brian J.
on April 16, 2010 at 5:55 pm
Because Cox is a creature of habit and puts the backups at the lower end of the lineup, no matter how they’re performing.
Why is Dave Ross hitting behind Melky Cabrera?
Honestly, Cabrera is kind of a good example of somebody who maybe should hit ninth, right now. I know Bobby doesn’t do that; it’s just a thought.
braves14
on April 16, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Ross is a nice player.
Bethany
on April 16, 2010 at 7:24 pm
Random question, but does anyone ave the MLB app for their iPad or iPhone?
Great to sees the team be more patient and beat up on a pitcher.
braves14
on April 16, 2010 at 7:24 pm
Hammel has about 60 pitches and we’re in the 2nd.
Nathan
on April 16, 2010 at 7:26 pm
Man, our bench is pretty awesome so far. Between Hinske and Ross, we haven’t lost a lot of punch between our first and second-string.
Nathan
on April 16, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Wow. Heyward is 2-2…In this inning.
Grst
on April 16, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Watching Heyward spoil that attempt at high heat was a thing of beauty.
Ethan
on April 16, 2010 at 7:30 pm
Lowe and his run support. Shit, I bet even the Hamster would go 5/5 if he were in the lineup
Wasn’t Corpas their closer some last year? He’s gone from closer to 2nd inning guy? (Or was it the high leverage situation? heh heh)
mraver
on April 16, 2010 at 7:37 pm
That inning was fun. 🙂
jjschiller
on April 16, 2010 at 7:39 pm
Truly bizarre the way we score runs for Lowe.
mraver
on April 16, 2010 at 7:39 pm
Hahaha. SO lucky!
c. shorter
on April 16, 2010 at 7:39 pm
sweet play
mraver
on April 16, 2010 at 7:40 pm
Lowe is striking people out tonight.
PaulV
on April 16, 2010 at 7:40 pm
Lowe should throw strikes and pitch 7 innings. maybe Jo Jo can pitch some
braves14
on April 16, 2010 at 7:42 pm
Jo-Jo is on the DL, but I think Dunn is still here.
Randy
on April 16, 2010 at 7:49 pm
Wow! I go for a walk after Jay-Hey’s first hit, I come back and we score SEVEN, and Melky gets two hits. And BTW—-All Things Must Pass was really good, but would have been better off as a double album, not a triple, and Paint It Black is the greatest pop song ever!
braves14
on April 16, 2010 at 7:50 pm
The Prado can’t be stopped.
Brian J.
on April 16, 2010 at 7:54 pm
An ealk to get to our first baseman? Won’t work this time- we’re not playing Glaus!
RobBroad4th
on April 16, 2010 at 7:57 pm
Bethany, I have the MLB app and I’m putting it to good use.
Man, if Lowe could start every day, this team would set some records.
Brian J.
on April 16, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Again, that brings up the question of just how much ugliness a Braves win is worth.
Dan
on April 16, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Lowe will likely be 3-0 after tonight.
Bethany
on April 16, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Thanks, Rob, I think I’m going to bite the bullet and get it for the iPad.
Randy
on April 16, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Oh well that wasn’t all that bad, I have Hawpe in fantasy. Speaking of fantasy who on here told me that Prado wouldn’t be a good fantasy middle infielder?
RobBroad4th
on April 16, 2010 at 8:22 pm
@88, There’s a major delay woth the audio feed (45-60 seconds for me), but otherwise I’ve had no problems. It’s good to hear Don Sutton’s voice again for nostalgic reasons.
Why the hell do you hit for Hinske there? He’s a much better defensive first baseman than Glaus, and you should want your best defensive team on the field in the ninth.
Dan
on April 16, 2010 at 9:43 pm
Mac, next time you dedicate a video to Chip Caray, I recommend this one:
I know I’m going to ruffle some feathers here, but I’m not sure George Harrison was a superstar. He could do everything well, but I’m not sure he was ever truly at the level of a Tom Glavine or a Lou Gehrig, a born collaborator who was clearly one of the finest people in the profession in his own right. I think Harrison was more of a Mark McLemore: a spectacular sideman who was behind the Lennon/McCartney first string for a reason.
Feathers: ruffled.
All Things Must Pass > Lennon and McCartney’s post-Beatles bodies of work combined
Yeah gotta go with Douglass here. Have you even HEARD All Things Must Pass????
@1
Maybe you had to be there, AAR.
Tell me; consider Eddie Matthews. Never the best player on his team. Never the best player in his league.
Superstar?
They also serve who stand and let Clapton play their solos for them.
Seriously, George was probably a glue guy keeping John and Paul from killing each other. And when on his own proved to be a fine songwriter.
————
How could I be so blind? Wren’s genius is finally being revealed to me:
Trade our best starter to the Yankees for “hot minor league prospects” and watch him struggle as he did before. Then, trade him straight up for Jo-Jo. Genius, I tellya.
You could almost hear DLowe’s agent guffawing “what a maroon” as Wren signed the last of the stupid money contracts.
————————-
Can you imagine how far the ball will go when Heyward starts hitting the ball on the sweet spot instead of the label. And did you see how fast he got from second to home on the ONE-HOP LINE DRIVE TO LEFT?
I think soon (though it will be difficult) the Braves need to move Heyward to #3 and Chipper to #5 (or #6). The difference in speed at the top of the order is too pronounced to be ignored.
What happens if Heyward doesn’t stop growing?
He’ll become John Henry and die a young, glorious death.
I like “FEAR THE PRADO” way more than “It’s Melky-licious.” Especially since it’s not at all these days.
@6, I would love to see Heyward move to the #3 spot. The next time Chipper gets hurt, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Bobby “experiment” with putting him there.
Eddie Matthews was probably the second or third greatest 3b of all time, depending on how you rate that sort of thing. The fact that he did so at a time when there were a lot of inner circle hof’s playing doesn’t change that. Harrison, who ihave a on of respect for just ain’t in that class for me, as a guitarist or writer
I have Harrison ahead of Winwood, Burdon, Townshend, but behind Lennon and McCartney, and Brian Jones, Keith Richards.
I even have Harrison ahead of Clapton. All on the strength of All Things Must Pass.
I’d put the Derek & The Dominos record ahead of ATMP. But that’s just me.
I put Axl Rose above all of them
You’re kidding, right?
I don’t know if anybody has posted this yet, but it is just amazing…
http://tinyurl.com/y82uahb
Yes I’m kidding, but I still think hes awesome.
Great record. That comes to a matter of taste. I can’t say anything of the ‘artistic or technical merits’ of ATMP that would put it ahead of Derek and the Dominos.. Just that I like it better. Point WELL taken though.
The Prado | Cohn Restaurant Group.
@15 – I think that happened on a Saturn I had at one time.
“I’d put the Derek & The Dominos record ahead of ATMP. But that’s just me.”
No, it’s not just you–I’m right there with you.
But–and I know this might ruffle some feathers, start some arguments, etc.–Harrison’s “If I Needed Someone” might be my favorite Beatles’ song. “You Like Me Too Much” is also really swell–an adult love song in a time when adolescence ruled.
My fave Harrison songs: “Don’t Bother Me” and “Love You To.”
On the other hand, “Tomorrow Never Knows” is basically a John Lennon version of a George Harrison song, and that’s my favorite Beatles song ever.
Super simple, but I like ‘For You Blue.’
Trivia: Harrison made the first Beatles’ solo record. Anyone heard it? Here’s a pretty representative track: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQbbiNoDUo8
Far out, man.
Plastic Ono Band is far and away the best post-Beatles solo record. I might even put Ram ahead of All Things Must Pass if we’re counting the third LP.
Harrison was always my favorite Beatle, and I agree with those who put All Things Must Pass above the others solo efforts.
Don’t forget the Traveling Wilbury’s either.
Eric Gregg back…and is the mascot for some farm team:
http://deadspin.com/5518950/mascot-falls-off-dugout-roof-thrills-hundreds
Eric Gregg is dead, dude.
I’ll always be grateful to George Harrison for his incorporating sitar and other instruments from Indian classical music into rock, though Brian Jones probably got there first (“Paint It Black”).
“Paint It, Black” was released in 1966, and Harrison had already played sitar on “Norwegian Wood” in 1965.
From the last thread…Francoeur = William Hung.
Thanks, Mac.
JJ @ 26,
Looks like somebody down there didn’t like his strike zone either…
another reason not to go to a Phillies game
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5098407
so who would trade Melky for Frenchy?
18,
There’s a street in Atlanta off Piedmont, just north of 14th street, called “The Prado”. I looked at a house on the street a few weeks ago, but it was out of our price range. It would’ve been pretty awesome to be able to say I live on The Prado.
Plastic Ono Band better than All Things Must Pass, lol
Old Hari Krishna got nothing on you. Just keep you crazy with nothing to do.
But what if Martin starts to suck?
Then we’re the ones who must Fear The Prado.
I should add that while I’m unabashedly a Beatles guy, “Paint It, Black” is almost certainly my favorite sitar-driven pop track. I tend to like the Stones best when they’re at their most ominous.
Backup day!
1. Nate McLouth CF
2. Martin Prado 2B
3. Chipper Jones 3B
4. Eric Hinske 1B
5. Yunel Escobar SS
6. Jason Heyward RF
7. Melky Cabrera LF
8. David Ross C
9. Derek Lowe P
Though I’m not sure why Ross is hitting 8th.
Because Cox is a creature of habit and puts the backups at the lower end of the lineup, no matter how they’re performing.
Man, I remember when Bobby used to get criticized for batting backups in the regulars’ usual spots. He just can’t win, can he?
Well, Ross should probably hit 7th in front of Melky, who should hit 10th.
The team must be tired after the cross country flight.
No Chip today. Smoltz in his place.
Looks like the Bad Lowe showed up.
There’s a Non-Bad Lowe?
Hopefully.
So this is a purely theoretical concept, like dark energy or Melky Cabrera with a batting average that doesn’t begin in zero?
Maybe not. 2 Ks.
Nice one, Ross.
And Lowe.
That was the stupidest attempted steal I have seen recently.
Nice comeback by Lowe- looks like he’s got good movement tonight. And the usual great throw by Ross.
Phillies already up on the Marlins 4-0
Ross is impressive behind the dish. If we didn’t have McCann, I really think I’d rather have Ross than almost any other catcher in the NL.
This is an impressive at-bat by Yunel. I’m glad to see that; he’s looked bad some.
Bummer.
I think Yunel should lead off.
Woo! Derek Lowe finds some Ks!
I don’t know how on earth Yunel Escobar can hit so many groundballs. Even when he’s batting .300, he leads the club in GIDP. It makes no sense to me.
Wow, the kid hits the ball hard.
Jim Tracy looks like a clown.
Why is Dave Ross hitting behind Melky Cabrera?
Honestly, Cabrera is kind of a good example of somebody who maybe should hit ninth, right now. I know Bobby doesn’t do that; it’s just a thought.
Ross is a nice player.
Random question, but does anyone ave the MLB app for their iPad or iPhone?
Great to sees the team be more patient and beat up on a pitcher.
Hammel has about 60 pitches and we’re in the 2nd.
Man, our bench is pretty awesome so far. Between Hinske and Ross, we haven’t lost a lot of punch between our first and second-string.
Wow. Heyward is 2-2…In this inning.
Watching Heyward spoil that attempt at high heat was a thing of beauty.
Lowe and his run support. Shit, I bet even the Hamster would go 5/5 if he were in the lineup
Even Melky!
Even Melky’s getting in on this.
jinx
Lowe sure is lucky.
9 singles & 3 walks.
Wasn’t Corpas their closer some last year? He’s gone from closer to 2nd inning guy? (Or was it the high leverage situation? heh heh)
That inning was fun. 🙂
Truly bizarre the way we score runs for Lowe.
Hahaha. SO lucky!
sweet play
Lowe is striking people out tonight.
Lowe should throw strikes and pitch 7 innings. maybe Jo Jo can pitch some
Jo-Jo is on the DL, but I think Dunn is still here.
Wow! I go for a walk after Jay-Hey’s first hit, I come back and we score SEVEN, and Melky gets two hits. And BTW—-All Things Must Pass was really good, but would have been better off as a double album, not a triple, and Paint It Black is the greatest pop song ever!
The Prado can’t be stopped.
An ealk to get to our first baseman? Won’t work this time- we’re not playing Glaus!
Bethany, I have the MLB app and I’m putting it to good use.
Man, if Lowe could start every day, this team would set some records.
Again, that brings up the question of just how much ugliness a Braves win is worth.
Lowe will likely be 3-0 after tonight.
Thanks, Rob, I think I’m going to bite the bullet and get it for the iPad.
Oh well that wasn’t all that bad, I have Hawpe in fantasy. Speaking of fantasy who on here told me that Prado wouldn’t be a good fantasy middle infielder?
@88, There’s a major delay woth the audio feed (45-60 seconds for me), but otherwise I’ve had no problems. It’s good to hear Don Sutton’s voice again for nostalgic reasons.
Ugh. Derek. Why.
I hate Lowe.
He is going to make this interesting.
Dan, you may have spoken too soon.
Ruh-roh, Rerek.
Derek Lowe sucks out loud. We cannot lose this game.
Now that the lead is only 4 runs, does Bobby try to use the late innings relievers for the third night in a row?
CHIPPER!
5 run lead!
Wow. CHIPPER!
We could sure use an excuse to give Peter Moylan, Takashi Saito, and Billy Wagner a break.
For those of us stuck without a chance to see or hear the game…
what the heck just happened? ESPN Gamecast doesn’t say how Chipper scored.
We have to hope Lowe retires after this year, he just blows.
I was all for the signing of him too, good thing I am not a GM.
Chipper hit a HR.
Who is announcing the game on mlb.tv?
Well, that’s certainly different from the HBP game Cast is claiming for Mr. Jones.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand… into the bullpen.
I suggest CBSSports.com’s Gamecenter. They’re usually right on.
5 1/3? Come on…
@106
I agree. With a 5 run lead, I don’t mind burning Lowe for 115-120 pitches. His arm won’t fall off and this is the game to do it.
You’d figure Medlen/Chavez/Dunn rounds this one out though
hey Bobby at least let Oflaherty end the inning
Hey, it’s a Matt Belisle sighting!
dont we have an off day between Lowe’s next start? extra day of rest, Id extend his outing
I guess Bobby didn’t want to give Lowe a chance to blow it.
Well, as I just checked Melky’s Hot/Cold Zone (to see nothing but ice blue squares) he grounds into a dp.
Niiiice.
🙁
An insurance run would have been nice.
always good to see the mets give up a grand slam to lose the lead
Why the hell do you hit for Hinske there? He’s a much better defensive first baseman than Glaus, and you should want your best defensive team on the field in the ninth.
Mac, next time you dedicate a video to Chip Caray, I recommend this one:
good BP management tonight
Recapped.