Bruce Sutter Statistics and History – Baseball-Reference.com
Seasons with Braves: 1985-1986, 1988 (is still getting paid)
Notable Stats: 4.55 ERA, 152.1 IP, three seasons pitched despite six year contract, 40 saves, 24 blown saves
Notable accomplishments: Member of Baseball Hall of Fame.
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Matt Whiteside Statistics and History – Baseball-Reference.com
Seasons with Braves: 2001
Notable Stats: 7.16 ERA, 21 H/16.1 IP
Notable Accomplishments: According to Wikipedia, “In 1996, he served as a guest judge at the Miss USA Pageant.”
SEC picks. Home teams in crimson.
Alabama 41, Florida International 10
Georgia 13, USC 12
Florida 47, Troy 13
LSU 21, Vandy 17
Auburn 3, MSU 2
UCLA 23, Tennessee 20
i was talking with my friend Roy today about the worst ever braves and it took him about 3 seconds to come up with a glaring omission on Macs’ list…………i give you Luis Gomez. a strapping 150 lb.shortstop who, in two years(’80-81) managed to hit .192 with six EBH (all doubles)and an OPS around 450. he was 0-5 stealing and chipped in 19 errors to seal the deal. folks, i think we have a winner !
From previous thread:
It’s not a matter of “letting” Chipper retire. Involuntary servitude is illegal. He can quit playing baseball whenever he wants; this is a basic tenet of contract law. Obviously, he doesn’t get paid if he does.
This sounds like something from “The Onion” but it’s real. You gotta read this.
http://subwaysquawkers.blogspot.com/2009/09/what-jeff-francoeur-and-george-strait.html
I don’t even remember Whiteside and I’m sure he was lousy. But my vote goes to the worst player elected to the HOF in the last 20 years, Bruce Sutter. God, just typing his name makes me nauseous.
Glaring omission lousy Brave, would be Eddie Miller.
While I know it’s not specifically what this list is about, I think overall career can be a tiebreaker, and I just can’t bring myself to say Bruce Sutter is worse than Matt Whiteside. It just doesn’t seem right. I think maybe if you’re in the Hall of Fame, you are precluded from people being able to say that you’re worse than Matt Whiteside at anything. At least for me it does. If you wanna vote Sutter, go ahead. There’s no doubt he was plenty awful in a Braves uniform.
And BTW, while Sutter’s crappiness definitely was more publicized and hurt the team far more than Whiteside’s (we were counting on Sutter, whereas our ’01 team was counting on Whiteside about as much as they were counting on Alan Butts), Whiteside was really freaking awful. I’m just not sure anyone remembers it very well.
Incidentally, Whiteside still played until 2005??? That is pretty inexplicable that people kept giving him chances for four years after his year with us.
I can’t vote in the poll as there is a giant music video protruding out in front of the options.
I don’t have that problem…. You can vote in the last entry, if you want.
I actually foresee an offensive explosion in this year’s Auburn/MSU game. I’m saying MSU 9 Auburn 8. Let there be no doubt that Auburn’s scoring is two field goals and a safety. No way there is a touchdown in this game.
Whiteside played in the majors, briefly, in 2005, but he spent the intervening years in the minors and in Japan.
Let there be no doubt that Auburn’s scoring is two field goals and a safety.
I figured you had them down for four safeties. Any prediction for Saturday night at the Horseshoe Mac?
I voted Sutter, there’s only so much damage you can do in 16 low leverage innings.
3 blown saves for every 5 games saved? I would think that a chimpanzee that was challenged in some inoffensive way could do that well.
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I say we get this guy to close games
Chipper’s comments are admirable. I wish Mike Hampton had the same attitude.
Red hats….they just look awful…
Jurrjens catches Pujols looking.
It’s almost criminal that JJ has double-digit losses this year.
I love Yunel.
Adam is getting ice-cold again.
I mean, is there any doubt now that Yunel is the Braves’ most valuable regular player?
@17 I have no doubt.
geez, Garrett is just a wonderful outfielder.
I don’t get how Whiteside makes this list. I mean, he only pitched 16 innings. Shouldn’t someone like Royce Ring make the list, who was truly, horribly awful for 42 games.
How about your big ten picks Mac mine are something like this for this week
Penn State 33 Syracuse 0
Northwestern 28 E.Michigan 10
Indiana 20 W.Michigan 10
Michigan State 29 W.Michigan 13
Michigan 17 Notre Dame 31
Fresno State 20 Wisconsin 17
Iowa 23 Iowa State 13
Air Force 31 Minnesota 28
Purdue 20 Oregon 31
Illinois 38 Illinois State 3
Ohio State 23 USC 38
Prado since the All-Star break:
.260/.299/.382
Infante (remember when his season batting average was around .350?) since the All-Star break:
.216/.306/.311
And one need not mention Kelly Johnson’s season numbers.
Are the Braves still planning to go into 2010 by throwing these three (four if you include minor league journeyman Brooks Conrad) against the wall and hoping something sticks?
…and gondeee is talking about trading JJ, you have gotta be kidding me.
@23 I strong believe the Braves will not keep KJ. I am fine with giving the job to Prado.
Kelly Johnson sucks… good ridance to that bum
@23 I strong believe the Braves will not keep KJ.
Is that what you really believe, or just wishful thinking? We all thought the same about Francoeur going into this season, and they kept him.
The Braves have never been that attached to KJ, though. I fully expect that he’ll be elsewhere next year — and that someone will figure him out.
looked like chicken sh!t play by Pujols to get hit by the ball to avoid the dp–if wants to be hit by a ball so badly maybe JJ should oblige next time Pujols bats
Dont see why the Braves would keep KJ, he hasnt played at all in the 2nd half. Seems like they have two maybe three cheaper options that can give you the same amount of contributions
edit: and yes, its pretty clear that Yunel is our best player
Greetings from Las Vegas…
Nice defense, fellas.
Auburn is favored over MSU by 14.5. Will those teams even combine for 15 points?
And I’ll admit that Southern Cal -6 looks appealing, even on the road.
How are the Braves going to get rid of Kelly Johnson? He seems too bad this year and expensive to trade for anything useful; but also too good to just non-tender.
You really think UT will lose to UCLA? At home?
Vandy to hang with LSU?
Well, Orwell is certainly zeitgeisting these days, so why not?
Up is down, day is night, pigs are hovering in the air …
At this rate, UK will make a Sugar Bowl appearance.
I always pick Tennessee to lose.
Jair’s gonna get Hansoned, isn’t he?
Hmmm … Soriano in the 9th with (assuming JJ gets another out) a 1-0 lead?
edit–there’s the out
he might get Soriano’d
JJ’s clearly out of gas… Gonzalez pitched yesterday… Lefty-righty-righty-pinch hitter.
I’d go to Gonzo again before Soriano
definitely a different situation from the Hanson game–Hanson was still sharp but JJ looks spent
MAc always picks TENN to lose because he’s a bama homer
No, it’s because Tennessee sucks.
This Trevor Miller guy looks like he’s 56 years old
Yep, pitch count, pitch count, pitch count, dammit!
Jurrjens is at 105.
people are forgetting that Kiffin is coaching Tenn…this guy did attempt a 76yd FG before
Sure they do… We’ll see when they go down to bama and wax your behind
JonK is on something good tonight
Did anyone see the eighth inning? Jurrjens rallied to get Pujols, but he otherwise was not sharp, and almost gave up a two-run homer. He’s out of gas.
Kelly Johnson is a better option for 2B in 2010 than Martin Prado.
You play to win the game… don’t be a homer that’s all I’m saying. Just because you don’t like a team doesn’t mean you have to act 12 years old and pick them to lose all time.
Apparently Tennessee is an honorary Big 10 member. Probably because they suck.
It’s Mac’s site, so he can do whatever he wants.
FWIW, it’s a running joke that I heartily endorse.
Mac your college football intelligence and open mindedness is the equivalent of a mouse turd
Yet the fact still remains that Tennessee sucks.
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You know the difference between the SEC and the Big Ten? In SEC country, we don’t go into someone else’s house and insult them. Especially when they can ban us for life if they so desire.
UPDATE: Written before Jon’s little mash note to Ububba, which I’ve deleted. You’re on very thin ice here.
soriano again? jeebus..
Jon,
Your greasepaint is smearing.
Actually mac it’s still up… u may want to check it again
i was wondering when that was going to happen. insulting the captain and one of his regular crew members is probably not a good idea, jon.
There you.. good job you got it. And I’m here because I’m a braves fan. So needless to say, when I see homer ignorance I tend to call it out
Bullpen or blowpen?
Ryan C
ouch one of his regular crew members? What is this the navy… you know what they say in the navy right? There is no wrong hole
what a pitching and defensive performance by the braves.
you know if Lowe could pitch like this sometimes we may actually have the lowest era in the majors
Jon, is it really worth insulting everyone? seriously, dude, let it go
maybe the rockies will lose tonight
Genius move by Cox. I say three year extension for Bobby.
So, does anyone want to offer a defense for why Jon shouldn’t be put on probation?
Woopee! 1-0 shut out.
Jair Jurrjens is one of the best pitchers in baseball.
because I’m hilarious and I lighten this place up. Plus I take the topic off the braves since clearly there is nothing left to play for this year
ps… great move by cox… 10 year extension
nope…ban him one down, 2 to go if you ask me.
jon, humor, especially poor humor, doesnt always come through when YOU’RE TYPING! as of now, you just sound like a tool.
Just wanted to say go Vols, I’ll hang up and listen.
1-2-3 for Soriano, perhaps he’s been underused? (cough)
JJ would be 20-5 if he played for the yankees
Personal insults are not allowed, them’s the rules Jon! You’re out!
Mac
I’m disappointed. What happened to all the Dylan videos?
Make that “double secret probation,” Mac.
As for Jurrjens. Damn, did he own Pujols tonight or what?
Sticks & stones & all that.
But, I actually did used to work for the Navy…
The only argument for not banning him is that is apparently what he wants, given his behavior. He’s essentially begging for it. But that’s not a solid enough argument. I’d probate him.
Minus 10 scholarships and bowl eligibility for 2 years.
Recap is up.
Thanks for the Francoeur linkage to our Subway Squawkers site. Did he really sing during games when he was with the Braves? If so, no wonder why he’s a Met!
Sometimes he looked a little distracted out there…