Dan, I’m just not sure I believe all that. If Bobby goes, a lot of his guys may go. And while he says he isn’t thinking of going anywhere at the moment, I’m sure that there’s a lot in his mind that he just wouldn’t admit to the media.
It’s got to be awfully hard to swallow for him. It’s been two decades since the team has been this terrible, and he has to realize a lot of that buck stops with him.
sansho1
on September 18, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Where can a person go for updated individual defensive metrics during the season? I like what David Pinto does, but his site is unnavigable — and I can’t find anything on BP.
…and whatever contribution Smoltz could give you, with a total payroll of ~$90M (including $13M for Hudson) + whatever Smoltz earns.
Other variations include:
a) Not going after Winn—instead giving the job to Schafer—and allocating that money to a Japanese starter, or to Lowe (instead of Harang), thereby freeing up enough trade pieces to go after Greinke, who is cheap like Snell
b) Dunn instead of Burrell
c) Guys like Edwin Jackson, Brian Bannister, or Justin Duchscherer (all similarly priced) instead of Snell.
The way I see it, these moves would make us contenders in 2009 and 2010 without crippling our ability to contend in subsequent years if these moves don’t work out.
Possible discussion questions include:
I) Are the proposed FA contracts reasonable approximations of what those players will get on the open market?
II) Are the proposed arbitration raises in line with what those players will get?
III) Are the proposed trades reasonable on both ends? Am I overvaluing/undervaluing either the players we’d be trading or the players we’d be receiving?
IV) How much time which could otherwise be devoted to billing clients does Stu spend in Fantasy GM Land?
Stu
on September 18, 2008 at 4:49 pm
That’s probably not enough for Snell. What about adding in Rohrbough?
I think this is going to be a morning recap. I’m a little sick and want to take some NyQuil and sleep it off. Plus, why stay up?
Dan
on September 18, 2008 at 6:17 pm
Chip Caray and Joe Simpson.
Every time I’ve seen this pair this year, Chip Caray has talked about a “more exciting” form of baseball with a bigger emphasis on speed and less fascination with the long ball now that the steroid era is dead. Every. Single. Time.
I fail to see how speed ball is more exciting than power ball other than attempts by your favorite catcher to throw out a guy on the basepaths. Sure, that’s exciting, but the only other aspects to speed ball are taking extra bases on hits (which is nice to see) and speed on defense, which is less sexy.
csg
on September 18, 2008 at 6:33 pm
he may not pan out and may not be any good, but whats the harm with giving Brandon Jones some Ab’s and playing time? Is he the Stockman/Devine of the club now?
edit: and why is our fastest base runner/stealer hitting 8th?
Doubles and triples are more interesting than home runs any day. Anyway, yeah, this is going to be a morning recap, unless the Evil Upstairs Neighbor wakes me.
Bobby needs to go. I’m sorry. We just got swept by the Phillies and his reaction is:
“What difference does it make?” Cox asked.
Ummmmmmm, we need a new Manager. Someone with Fire and has the ability to get the fire started under our players (particularly Frenchy).
I know that Fergosi is an advanced scout for us now (and I know he’s not the best manager, but at least he cares). Yost is available. Pendelton is probably the heir apparent, but he’s just a mediocre Hitting Coach. What makes us think he’ll be anything more that a mediocre manager?
chris
on September 19, 2008 at 12:54 am
ps–
stu…giving up that much in terms of players (Hernandez comes to mind), PLUS signing the FAs that we sign (both of whom will be AT LEAST B Level) means that our Farm System is DESTROYED for the next 3-5 years. That team, fwiw, probably won’t even win the division.
bruleâ„¢
on September 19, 2008 at 2:42 am
This season is almost going to finish even though I cannot let myself go.
kc
on September 19, 2008 at 3:42 am
I agree with Chris, that team is not going to win a thing Stu.
oh, you care!
Rewarding failure.
http://tinyurl.com/4ut3zt
Guess we can’t be expecting Yost back, for better or worse
Dan, I’m just not sure I believe all that. If Bobby goes, a lot of his guys may go. And while he says he isn’t thinking of going anywhere at the moment, I’m sure that there’s a lot in his mind that he just wouldn’t admit to the media.
It’s got to be awfully hard to swallow for him. It’s been two decades since the team has been this terrible, and he has to realize a lot of that buck stops with him.
Where can a person go for updated individual defensive metrics during the season? I like what David Pinto does, but his site is unnavigable — and I can’t find anything on BP.
I use the Fielding Bible plus/minus stats on Bill James Online. (It’s subscription, but just $3 a month.)
By the way, all the time Escobar has missed has pushed him behind Jimmy Rollins to second among major league shortstops in +/-.
Thanks Mac — I’ve been paying for Bill James but forgetting to go there. D’oh!
Fleshing out my latest crazy fantasy a bit more, here are the gory details of my hypothetical offseason moves:
1) Trade a package of players (something like Francoer, Gorkys Hernandez, Medlen and filler?) for Aaron Harang;
2) Trade a package of players (something like Lillibridge, Reyes, and filler?) for Ian Snell;
3) Non-tender Diaz (unless he’s included in one of the above packages);
4) Sign Pat Burrell for ~$45 million over 3 years;
5) Sign Juan Rivera for ~8 million over 2 years;
6) Trade a package of players (something like Diory Hernandez and Stephen Marek) for Randy Winn + ~$4 million;
7) Offer Smoltz an incentive-laden deal (whatever gets him to stay);
8) Have the following roster:
Lineup
SS – Yunel (~$500K)
2B – KJ (~$2.5M)
3B – Chipper ($11M)
LF – Burrell (~$15M)
C – McCann ($3.5M)
CF – Winn (~4.25M)
RF – Rivera (~$4M)
1B – Kotchman (~$3M)
Bench
Sammons (~$450K)
Prado (~$450)
Infante ($2M)
B. Jones (~$450K)
Blanco (~$500K)
Rotation
Harang ($11M)
Jurrjens (~$500K)
Snell ($3M)
Campillo (~$500K)
Morton (~$450)
Bullpen
Gonzalez (~$3.5M)
Soriano ($6.1M)
Moylan (~$500K)
Boyer (~$500K)
Bennett (~$500K)
Carlyle (~$500K)
Ring (~$450K)
…and whatever contribution Smoltz could give you, with a total payroll of ~$90M (including $13M for Hudson) + whatever Smoltz earns.
Other variations include:
a) Not going after Winn—instead giving the job to Schafer—and allocating that money to a Japanese starter, or to Lowe (instead of Harang), thereby freeing up enough trade pieces to go after Greinke, who is cheap like Snell
b) Dunn instead of Burrell
c) Guys like Edwin Jackson, Brian Bannister, or Justin Duchscherer (all similarly priced) instead of Snell.
The way I see it, these moves would make us contenders in 2009 and 2010 without crippling our ability to contend in subsequent years if these moves don’t work out.
Possible discussion questions include:
I) Are the proposed FA contracts reasonable approximations of what those players will get on the open market?
II) Are the proposed arbitration raises in line with what those players will get?
III) Are the proposed trades reasonable on both ends? Am I overvaluing/undervaluing either the players we’d be trading or the players we’d be receiving?
IV) How much time which could otherwise be devoted to billing clients does Stu spend in Fantasy GM Land?
That’s probably not enough for Snell. What about adding in Rohrbough?
I think this is going to be a morning recap. I’m a little sick and want to take some NyQuil and sleep it off. Plus, why stay up?
Chip Caray and Joe Simpson.
Every time I’ve seen this pair this year, Chip Caray has talked about a “more exciting” form of baseball with a bigger emphasis on speed and less fascination with the long ball now that the steroid era is dead. Every. Single. Time.
I fail to see how speed ball is more exciting than power ball other than attempts by your favorite catcher to throw out a guy on the basepaths. Sure, that’s exciting, but the only other aspects to speed ball are taking extra bases on hits (which is nice to see) and speed on defense, which is less sexy.
he may not pan out and may not be any good, but whats the harm with giving Brandon Jones some Ab’s and playing time? Is he the Stockman/Devine of the club now?
edit: and why is our fastest base runner/stealer hitting 8th?
Doubles and triples are more interesting than home runs any day. Anyway, yeah, this is going to be a morning recap, unless the Evil Upstairs Neighbor wakes me.
I must have gone to sleep earlier than I thought, because I just saw Kotchman homer.
signing Pat Burrell sounds so horrible that its probably inevitable.
Why, exactly? Because he’s too valuable/productive to have his name associated with this franchise right now?
no stu. just petty, personal reasons. such as watching him play left field.
Smoltz to serve as Division Series Analyst :O
http://tinyurl.com/62rkvr
Bobby needs to go. I’m sorry. We just got swept by the Phillies and his reaction is:
“What difference does it make?” Cox asked.
Ummmmmmm, we need a new Manager. Someone with Fire and has the ability to get the fire started under our players (particularly Frenchy).
I know that Fergosi is an advanced scout for us now (and I know he’s not the best manager, but at least he cares). Yost is available. Pendelton is probably the heir apparent, but he’s just a mediocre Hitting Coach. What makes us think he’ll be anything more that a mediocre manager?
ps–
stu…giving up that much in terms of players (Hernandez comes to mind), PLUS signing the FAs that we sign (both of whom will be AT LEAST B Level) means that our Farm System is DESTROYED for the next 3-5 years. That team, fwiw, probably won’t even win the division.
This season is almost going to finish even though I cannot let myself go.
I agree with Chris, that team is not going to win a thing Stu.
Lame recap is up.