All Atlanta Braves outfielders have combined for fifteen homers. Six of these are by Kotsay and Diaz, who are on the DL and may never return at this rate. As of this writing (before Monday’s games) eight major leaguers have 16 or more homers and five more have 15 exactly. If you limit to the nine homers by active players (seven by Francoeur, who sucks, and one each by Blanco and Norton) fifty-three major leaguers have more homers than the entire Braves outfield, and another ten have the same number. One or both will certainly increase when Monday’s games are added in.
So what I’m saying is that the outfield sucks.
c. shorter (from the last thread),
Reggie Sanders is still available. Despite his less-than-productive stay here earlier in his career, I think he could be a really nice, inexpensive addition.
I’ve dropped Francoeur from all my fantasy baseball teams
If Reggie Sanders is beginning to look attractive can Brian Jordan be far behind?
Can you instead drop something onto Francoeur? From a height?
One main thing that annoys me about Bobby too, is his mindset with platoons.
Kelly Johnson
vs. RHP .265 .362 .460 in 839 PA
vs. LHP .280 .356 .402 in 342 PA
Kelly has had to suffer for nearly two season platooning with the likes of Martin Prado, Omar Infante, etc.
In the meantime, Jeff was piling onto a consecuitive games streak that finally came to an end a few short weeks ago. In case you were wondering, Jeff’s splits:
vs. RHP 264 .301 .428 in 1358 PA
vs. LHP .307 .353 .525 in 572 PA
Granted the sample sizes aren’t extremly large, Jeff is a far more valuable player vs. LHP (OPS of .878. Kelly doesn’t have much power vs lefties and strikeouts out more (4.8 K/PA vs. LHP and 5.2 vs RHP), yet he is continually the victim of the platoon, whereas Jeff plays everyday…is the Marketing campaign centered around Jeff that significant?
Mac,
Am I the first to suggest…..
Dare I say it?
(Dare! Dare!)
Francoeur delenda est!
Although, to be honest, Frenchy is what he is, a serviceable (at this salary level) replacement level/quasi-replacement level outfielder.
So destroying him might be a bit overboard. Can I withdraw my ….delenda est suggestion? I am intrigued by your position and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
Update: fifty-four players now have more homers than the entire active Braves outfield, plus ten who have the same amount.
Since the silence was deafening when I posted this on last thread, I’m going to re-post my grammar nerd Corky Miller slam:
At this point, I’d trade Corky Miller for a dangling participle and a split infinitive. Being such a terrible catcher, I’d do anything to immediately get rid of him.
I still think Corky needs to be shot. Pour encourager les autres, but also because that way there’s no chance Bobby could use him. Well, little chance.
Great example of a dangling participle, though some would argue that you can’t split an infinitive. (As a French speaker, you would know that.)
Corky’s mom thinks he’s cute.
Of course you can split an infinitive. To not split infinitives is to let the grammarian weirdoes who thought that English should be more like Latin (which is kind of like wanting the Red Sox to be more like the 1891 Boston Braves) win.
Where’s Heyward and how’s he doing now?
vs. LHP
Brian McCann .365/.434/.554
Kelly Johnson .328/.366/.391
Omar Infante .293/.326/.439
Jeff Francoeur .256/.312/.419
Yunel Escobar .244/.303/.341
Mark Teixiera .216/.317/.352
Gregor Blanco .214/.361/.286
Greg Norton .200/.333/.200
Watch Infante, Francoeur, Escobar, and Norton be higher in the lineup than McCann and Johnson tonight.
I’m talking about the deep grammar, Mac. Of course you can split an infinitive–it’s a very healthy thing to do–but the word to is actually considered to be part of the root word.
The root word, of course, being a verb.
Heyward’s missed a few games with a knee thingy. There was one inconclusive MRI, but he had further tests yesterday, and they came out clean. He should be back tonight (I think)
In other prospect news, Morton had a semi-rough outing (breaking his 20 IN scoreless streak), and he was limited to 76 pitches (probably a good idea). Locke went 7 and wasn’t very hittable, striking out 4. Hanson was hittable but had a “quality start” for AA Mississippi.
Watch Infante, Francoeur, Escobar, and Norton be higher in the lineup than McCann and Johnson tonight.
If Johnson is even playing. Watch Cox start Gotay at second base or something…
I like Cox, but his platoon-obsession is maddening.
Can left-hand hitters dangle participles?
I’m deeply against split infinitives, the designated hitter, CB Bucknor’s strike zone, the New Yoston Red Sanxees, Jeff Francoeur’s strike zone judgment, using “less” and “fewer” interchangeably, the career of Greg Behrendt, the deterioration of Mike Meyers, the 7-month NBA playoffs, the lack of a Latin American draft, flopping, punishments for retaliation taking away the inside pitch, snooty French people, broken air conditioning, the lack of a functional Players’ Union in football, the stupidity of baseball Hall of Fame voting, and the Braves’ annual summer swoon.
I’m in favor of Chipper continuing to hit .420, though.
Man, I thought I had a pretty solid knowledge of grammar. But I have to admit, I have no idea what you guys are talking about.
Oh crap, ended in a preposition. I guess that should be ‘about what you guys are talking’. Crap.
Seat Painter,
If you withdraw your “Francoeur delenda est” suggestion, I’ll put one right back out there myself. He sucks big time. I tried to find his replacement level comparison stats on Baseball Prospectus, considering your argument that he is replacement level/quasi-replacement level, and I found BRAR. I don’t know what the hell that is, really, but Francoeur’s BRAR is 4. I think that means he’s accounted for four more runs than a replacement-level hitter. His WARP-1 is .6. These stats surprised me, because I had imagined that all of these statistics would be negative numbers. But BP’s glossary definition of WARP-1 validates my feeling that even if Francoeur is a slightly better hitter than a replacement-level hitter, he’s still very, very bad: “It should be noted that a team which is at replacement level in all three of batting, pitching, and fielding will be an extraordinarily bad team, on the order of 20-25 wins in a 162-game season.” And perhaps a better measure of Francoeur’s supreme suckiness is his BRAA, which compares Francoeur’s hitting to an average hitter, rather than just a replacement-level hitter. Francoeur’s BRAA is -4, which means that he has accounted for four fewer runs than an average hitter.That sounds pretty damn bad, even if I’m still not sure what I’m talking about with these sabermetrics. I don’t think those replacement level player/average player stats are acceptable for any player, even if one considers his low salary.
Part of his spectacular suckitude results from Bobby’s insistence on hitting him fifth and playing him every day, of course. So although I can say “Francoeur delenda est,” with a clean conscience, because he really does suck incredibly hard, I suppose it is more accurate to say “Francoeur, along with Cox’s insistence on hitting Francoeur fifth and playing him every day, delenda est.”
The one good thing about Francoeur’s constant suck of late is that there hasn’t been even a single game where Lando could trumpet his “virtues.”
true, but watch him hit a solo shot tonight for our only run in a 2-1 loss. that’ll top off everything, wont it?
Yeah, I kind of miss lando and ryanc reminding us of how good we are. Weren’t we supposed to be turning some corner by now?
heck at this point, I’ll be glad to see Lando back. That’ll at least mean Frenchy is being productive
guess who has the lowest era and whip of all of our relievers??? Mac, I think you have a photo of this guy stored away somewhere
Desperate times (a .500 record) call for desperate measures (a Genesis video).
Wow, AAR, where do you stand on long wet kisses?
I’m feeling a good game for Francoeur today – Lilly seems like the kind of guy he could hit – lefty w/o an overpowering fastball. Plus, a day off yesterday, maybe he’ll bust out one of his great days after getting some rest like after the doubleheader.
Or he’ll try to pull three changeups off the plate outside and hit three grounders to short.
ya – thats a good possibility too, but maybe he figures he’s done enough of that now and will try to do good instead. Plus with the hecklers in the bleachers at wrigley, he might start having a little more fun again. I’m feeling a good game tonite.
I’m seeing a Frenchy line of 1-4 with a GIDP with the bases loaded and a solo shot once we are down by six.
Oh, yes… one of the grounders will certainly be with the bases loaded and one out, and Joe Simpson will praise how he hustled up the line so hard that he was only out by six feet.
I forgot… with the bases loaded, one out, and on a 3-1 pitch.
I predict 13 LOB in 4 plate appearances for Jeff tonight.
I’m going to the game tonight. Thinking of going with a loaded shotgun and sitting in the right field bleachers. No, no…not for Francoeur…for me. To put me out of my misery for the next time he swings at a first pitch breaking ball to make the 3rd out in an inning.
If anyone can, it’s Jeff.
there will be a Stockman sighting tonight
…and a solo shot once we are down by six.
So now we’re at the Alex Rodriguez stuff with Francoeur; that he pads his stats when the game is out-of-reach one way or another.
(Of course, how would Francoeur’s stats look if he never “padded” them?)
Stu (from the last thread),
I’m actually usually in a pretty good mood but I tend to be a bit cynical and I assume the worst when it comes to things I root for. If I had been around in 1942, I probably would have predicted the US would lose WW II.:)
But Alex-like? Not that. 🙂
I was going to say that Jeff wasn’t any better when the game wasn’t on the line than he was when it was. But I checked.
Wow.
Holy crap.
What about all the “clutch” stuff the Braves’ announcers talk about with Francouer? Or the two-out RBIs that Chip Caray loves to drone on about?
Jesus christ monkey balls! How is that even possible??
Anyone else going to the game tonight??
Compare:
Chipper
KJ
It’s harder to hit in high-leverage situations, but Francoeur’s splits are especially dramatic. I expect this is true of most low-walk players, who are overaggressive at the best of times and prone to swing at anything to “get a ball in play and do something” with runners on in crucial situations.
I’m going tomorrow. In Chicago for a family thing and catching the game.
To be fair, according to that link his 2007 #s were better in higher leverage situations, so I still think he can turn it around.
which also maybe explains the announcers assuming he’s still great w/ the game on the line, cause he was last year
Well, he’s also hit .270 (with poor peripherals) with RISP and two out. Joe mentioned that stat in particular the other day (when he was in the .280s). But that’s all RISP/2 out situations — up by eight, down by six, McCann on second base — all of them.
Coop, since you asked, I’m in favor of long wet kisses, women with long legs and brains, charitable giving to those less fortunate, dogs, steak, electric guitars, apple pie, winning streaks, and, again, Chipper hitting .420.
Is it possible that sample size comes into play at all? I mean Frenchy wasn’t terrible last year in these situations…
What does a long brain do for a woman?
That BABIP is also really, really low in high leverage situations.
“Yeah, I kind of miss lando and ryanc reminding us of how good we are. Weren’t we supposed to be turning some corner by now?”
never once did i blindly support francoeur. also, all my points were the season was, and still is, young and giving up on a team after a third of a season is premature. once again brad, you seem to not get the point and pick out part of people’s post, and plagiarize them (poorly, might i add b/c you missed the purpose entirely) to prove a point.
i will say this. since smoltz has been completly down, my viewpoint of the team has changed. we desperately need someone to put up decent numbers to fill the #2 starter void. as of now, i dont know where that will come from.
i cant help it to be optimistic. i live in fantasy land. see for yourself. this is my home land.
http://tinyurl.com/5ubbah
Long legs are nice, though.
Plagiarism? What is this, 6th grade?
The season isn’t young anymore, dude. We’ll be at the all-star break in a few weeks. The Phillies are running away with the division. And Smoltz han’t been an effective starter in a month, so your recent coming around to what everyone else has been saying is a little late.
After seeing the latest Indy Jones (did he ever play for the Braves?), I guess long brains have advantages also.
The Mariners are reportedly going to shop Bedard at the deadline. Wonder what it would take. He’s a FA after the ’09 season, so it would be the Teixeira trade redux, minus Scott Boras.
Bavasi is a moron. I bet if Wren dangled Francoeur and filler, he’d jump at it.
After giving up Adam Jones+? Even Bavasi isn’t that stupid.
“And Smoltz han’t been an effective starter in a month, so your recent coming around to what everyone else has been saying is a little late.”
so sorry not to conform to the blog jeremy, but i am most definitely not on the same page as everyone else. i’ve seen this braves team flop the past few years, but i’ve also seen them overachieve over a 162 game season. as of now, we have underachieved and are still at .500. why is it wrong to think we can bounce back?
and yes, jeremy, it is sixth grade. my dad can beat up your dad, you’ve got cooties, etc…. my point about that statement was that you basically tried to say that i have talked about how “good” we are in my posts. my posts said that we are better than our record and that we are not a “bad” team. there’s a fine line between being realistic and being overly positive about the 2008 braves. i, for one, dont give up so easily. that doesnt make me more, or less, of a fan than anyone else. call me naive, call me stupid, but the season is still young. when nba is in its 30th game, would you say the season is still young? when nfl is in its 5th-6th game, would you say the season is still young? i would. it’s no different.
Hitting in “cluth” situations, if there is such a thing got me thinking about Mr. Clutch as regurgitated by E!SPN, David Ortiz, check his career stats in innings 7-9 “when the game is on the line,” primarily the 9th inning.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bsplit.cgi?n1=ortizda01
guess what, the off day didnt help Bobby
Escobar
KJ
Frenchy
Tex
Norton
McCann
Infante
Blanco
Glavine
Okay, Let’s Get Nuts
I’ve got it: Francouer for Erik Bedard.
http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/columnists/mcgrath/story/384295.html
The Mariners are dead and they would want something shiny for Bedard. What’s more shiny than the golden boy?? He could be sold as reasonable replacement for Adam Jones. If we’re really good, we could scoop up something else useful.
The question is who plays OF for us in this scenario. However, I think between Chipper, McCann, Teixeira, KJ and Escobar that we have enough offense if we could put Bedard at the front of the rotation. I’d be willing to deal some of the second-tier pitching talent in the system (anyone other than Tehran/Hanson/ Rohrbaugh) to pick up a Jose Guillen or a Milton Bradley (or both). You pay an OF mercenary or two for a couple months, rally around Chipper’s amazing season and inject new life into the ballclub.
It’ll never happen, of course.
On the one hand, it is a short-term move. On the other, it would save us from ourselves re: Frenchy. You know the long-term deal is coming.
ESPN is reporting 2 things
1. Smoltz had a very successful shoulder surgery today
2. Willis was sent all the way down to Class A ball
You have got to be kidding me. Although Jeff does have a career line of:
.362 .388 .426 when hitting in the 3-hole…Then again we’re talking about 11G/49 PA, can you say sample size?
The same guy hitting .223 .279 .388 is batting the in the 3-hole…this just screams Royals to me.
I still say Tex to the Redsox,
A bunch of Red Sox talent, plus Jeff Francoeur to San Diego,
Adrian Gonzalez and Brian Giles to us.
Should read:
The same guy hitting .223 .279 .388 in the past monthis batting the in the 3-hole…this just screams Royals to me.
For the record:
I want an All-Georgia-rooted team; make deals for the following players:
Adam Wainwright, Nick Markakis, Dustin McGowan, Chone Figgins, Micah Owings, Matt Capps, Edwin Jackson, Jonathan Broxton, Matt Murton, and the Drew Brothers.
#63, because our #1 starter is out for the year leaving our rotation consisting of Tim Hudson, the corpse of Tom Glavine, 2 rookies, and a journeyman who can’t pitch more than 5 innings or he develops blisters; our #1 closer has Reitsma’s disease; our #2 closer is rehabbing after missing a year with Tommy John’s surgery; our backup catcher makes us miss Todd Pratt; our backup infielders make us miss Chris Woodward and Keith Lockhart; our starting outfielders would have been released and replaced with Jordan and Mondesi; our first baseman who we traded half our farm system for is off to a slow start; and our best hitter is currently suffering from a small quad tear. Oh and did I mention our manager can’t figure out how to put together a lineup competently or use his bullpen effectively despite supposedly being a surefire future hall-of-famer? Aside from all that, you’re absolutely right: this team is still in great shape!
Lineup Tonight
Escobar SS
Johnson 2B
Francoeur RF
Teixeira 1B
Norton LF
McCann C
Infante 3B
Blanco CF
Glavine P
Mr. Clutch as regurgitated by E!SPN, David Ortiz, check his career stats in innings 7-9 “when the game is on the line,” primarily the 9th inning.
High leverage: .313/.409/.589
Late&Close: .286/.384/.578
I’ll take him. All ninth innings are not created equal.
It would take a lot to pull me off of tonight’s basketball game, and that lineup ain’t anywhere close to enough.
If this road trip is bad (4 wins or less), we really should cut our losses and look forward to next year and beyond.
TRADE TEX and HUDDY for a slew of prospects.
and yes, jeremy, it is sixth grade. my dad can beat up your dad, you’ve got cooties, etc
Um, what the hell is this? I’m just going to assume you mean Brad because I haven’t responded to anything you’ve written in days.
After giving up Adam Jones+? Even Bavasi isn’t that stupid.
Probably not. I’d definitely check into Bedard. Trade for Bedard; offer Teixeira an extension, if he doesn’t sign it trade him. Get creative. Of course Wren is the boringest GM ever so we likely won’t do a damn thing.
I don’t watch sports so that I can be miserable—I leave that for Phils & Mets fans—so I’m not giving up at all.
But if we’re 5 games over by the all-star break, honestly, I’ll take it.
Will be at The Big A on Friday for the titanic Jo Jo Reyes/Jon Garland matchup.
Psst…Robert, I’m stalking you. 😉
How does trading Hudson look forward to next year? The Braves have him for 2009 with an option 2010.
I shudder to think how much people would bitch if this team wasn’t in the top half of the league.
Joe just called Alfonso Soriano “Rafael”. This is off to a wonderful start.
Im watching on WGN…refuse to listen to chip.
Double play time. Francoeur up.
I’ll be optimistic, I’m calling a GIDP here.
It’s a rally Frenchy, it must die.
can Frenchy screw this up?
Cubs Announcer: You gotta think you’ve got the right guy up there (2 on, no outs)…In his last 4 Games, Francoeur has left 20 men on base.
3 pitch strikeout.
Make it 22 in his last 5.
Oh well, just a strike out.
he sucks
Only one out!
good call on the WGN, I didnt think I could watch this game tonight
I’m predicting it right now — Frenchy averaging less than 2 pitches per plate appearance this game…….and 10+ LOB.
It’s up to Norton!
NORTON!
hey lookie there!!!!
Thank you Norton.
Wow!
Norton did what Frenchy and Tex couldnt come close to, unbelievable
Ahahahahahahaha!
Norton!
warnings to both sides already???
Interesting…
Old friend Doug Eddings back there tonight, should be an eventful evening tonight.
Stupid warning. That wasn’t deliberate.
I mean, do pitchers honestly think along the lines of, “Damn, just gave up a home run…. Better nail some guy in the head!”
is there usually a season carryover on something that occured last season. I figured the retaliations ended after the season.
Norton > Francouer?
Lilly threw at Renteria last season. There is a history here…
I remember that slide that the WGN announcers are talking about…who did Renteria take out? I don’t think it was Theriot.
Hmm. But now Pete and the Lemmer think there’s some history between Lilly and the Braves dating back to Renteria getting hit last year or something.
So maybe the ump knew what he was doing?
I think it was Theroit. The look on Renteria’s face after that slide was priceless.
renteria slide:
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/020fcbD1NF4Py/610x.jpg
It was Fontenot.
Wow, i go onto braves.com to see we scored 3 runs in the first inning… Norton hit a 3-run HR? Amazing!
yep, 3 run bomb with two outs also. Right after the frenchy K and tex K
It was indeed Fotenot.
The night before Hudson had beaned Soriano…both dugouts were warned.
Lilly beaned Renteria with the 10th pitch of the game and was ejected without warning. Renteria then stole second on the next pitch, clocking Fotenot in the face on the slide.
WGN is my only choice tonight because for some ungodly reason CSS is rerunning the Florida-Georgia football game.
can Eddie Perez take Millers roster spot?
Hell, I’d take Pascual Perez at this point. Rosie Perez.
Like i said, I have both the WGN and peachtree broadcasts, and am going with WGN. I’d rather listen to homers for the other team than Chip at this point after the past week of Peachtree games.
That’s because SEC football is the most important thing in the world, ever. Let me know how it ends.
does anyone here even watch WGN that isn’t from chicago?
didnt Soriano show up someone the night before on his 3rd Hr of the night. I remember him doing something at the plate or running towards 1st
Infante with another triple!!
Lilly who is a bigtime hot or cold pitcher…clearly doesn’t have it tonight…getting rocked by the likes of Norton and Infante.
Keep saying bad things about Norfante, it’s working !!
The WGN announcers sound really excited to be here. They need to ditch the decaf.
Why don’t we just get Javy to take Corky’s spot. He can’t be any worse and he’ll make some fans happy.
Lou… why are you bringing in the infield in the second inning in Wrigley Field? Have you seen us pitch lately?
gameday seems to be stuck…
It hasn’t even started the 2nd inning
just said we’re getting Dempster and Zambrano the next two days now
mine is stuck too catz
damn you escobar
really… for who…
#121 after his 3rd HR, he tried to stretch a single into a double. That’s what annoyed everyone, as it was a blowut game.
I have to say, I’ve really really enjoyed watching Fukudome this year. Such an intelligent hitter. He’s like the anti-francoeur.
Ah, must be nice to be able to sign Japanese free agents.
Glavine isn’t much, is he…
why he got an 0-2 fastball in the middle of the plate is the question to ask
let’s see what Derosa can do…
Maybe keeping DeRosa and playing him at one of the corners instead of Mondesi/Jordan might have been a good idea, no ?
The Braves will regret not scoring after a leadoff triple in the top of the second inning.
you have to walk Soriano here
i concur
You would think that by pure accident you could score a man who is at 3rd with no outs.
What a relief
just for shits and giggles…switching over to peachtree to see what ole chip is up too…
I hate Francoeur
Francoeur is really shining a bad light on my crystal ball skills
Lilly has 6 k’s through 3. If you’re wondering Jeff has 33% of those
damn, games not on Extra Innings tonight.
hibernation mode
bigger cubs homer: cubs announcers or chip caray?
Im undecided at the moment.
According to DOB, Smoltz had a significant injury to his labrum. Reading between the lines, he’s probably done.
There is the difference between the Braves and the Cubs. Down 3-0 after the top of the first, it’s not over for the Cubs.
another difference, the Cubs are good
Jeff Francouer hitting is like the kid in the sandlot who holds his glove in one spot hoping the ball finds it. Jeff swings the same way every time no matter where the ball might be
oldtimer, no game on Extra Innings because it’s on WGN, that should assume you have WGN.
and Glavine is already over 70 pitches
carlyle sighting…this is gonna be a fun road trip.
No WGN for me, screwed out of a game. Very strange, but it rarely happens that I dont have the Braves, few times a year(except for Saturday afternoons)
That faggot Frenchy should have caught that ball
Language, Smitty.
yep he pulled up on it nicely. It would’ve been close, but he’s like Roger Dorn. Cant bruise the body
If Francoeur and Chip traded jobs, would it make any difference whatsoever?
Is someone officially in the Doghouse yet?
neither could be any worse than the other already is at his respective job.
Glavine’s got nothing tonight. Carlyle might be better off starting the 4th
The doghouse is too crowded.
Another night of the Hibernation Mode offense.
so Norton and Infante are our only good hitters in this lineup right now
Chip has reached the point of openly rooting for the Cubs.
Re: Frenchy and Chip…
..while they both might suck at their job. Chip hasn’t faired as well in the press:
I miss Chipper
were those good at-bats?
I predict Bobby lets Glavine let the game get out of hand before going to the bullpen.
I’m pleasantly surprised.
two balls hit hard to the warning track and their players made nice catches
Glavine out
See the last panel for how crowded the doghouse actually is now.
Yeah I’m definitely thinking Chipper has stolen all of the luck the Braves have this year.
Can Frenchy be the team caotin of the dog house?
so 0-6 when Chipper isnt playing and 0-20 in our last 1 run road games, I’m optimistic that this will change tonight
Jesus. Carlyle has thrown eight pitches, six of them balls, and you put the hit and run on?
*Captain
Have we won any games wearing the blue jerseys this year?
maybe we can leave chip in chicago for good when we leave…
Mark Cuban:
Please do not buy the Cubs; buy the Braves.
we’ve won 7 total, so not very many
Walks never hurt
I am sure this has been said:
Chip Caray is normally annoying, but he is completely insufferable when we are playing the Cubs.
Not to kick a guy when he’s down, but Carlyle sucks and has had no business being with on the Atlanta Braves’ 25-man roster for some time now.
I think that pitch to Soto was a strike, moving further inside as it crossed the plate. Am I just being a homer?
We have given up
I’m not sure what is more predicable at this point, the Braves road performance, or the fact that the Lakers have already shot more free throws in eight minutes than they did all of Game 2. I’m shocked, SHOCKED.
Lilly is Nolan Ryan
Sandy Koufax
A HIT!
hah…i didn’t know that.
what a dumbass.
Diaz got ejected after friday nights game arguing the call…hes on the disabled list. gonna be a suspension.
Nice mid-comment correction, Chip.
Wow, Sorriano makes a catch while moving his legs and Chip makes it sound like he did 5 back flips before getting there
Not like Diaz would play anyways
I know its been said 5 million times, but it really is nothing short of pathetic listening to Chip try to do his job.
Wouldn’t have mattered if Kelly got on because Francoeur would’ve stranded them anyway.
“Had a 3-run homer and stopped hitting since”
What do we need to do for a different story?
Could Corky hit for Jenny (I’m going to call Frenchy “Jenny” from now on)
Yes but then he could’ve padded his LOB stats some more.
Will Francoeur bat third tomorrow, and the next day, and the next day as well?
I am waiting on the Alou/ Bartmann story. I know Chip is dying to tell it
Good inning for Buddy.
OMG a 1-2-3 inning… for the Braves pitcher
3, 4, 5 = Francoeur, Tex, Norton.
Holy crap – there is no way we win this game.
some good news, Fla is beating Phi 5-4 going to the 9th, Ariz came back on the Mets its now 5-5
bad news: we still suck
Maybe Frenchy’s got “the pictures”. He wasn’t hurting us enough in the 5 hole so Bobby moves him to the 3 hole.
The announcers should just pre-record “Francoeur jumps on the first pitch” to save their vocal cords. Jackass.
I miss David Justice
Francoeur is working for the French government
I miss justice. If there were any justice, Jeff Francoeur would be in AAA.
At least Andruw’s pop-ups would sometimes go out of the park
I miss Brian Jordan. At least he was good for the club house soe he actually had a purpose
Aren’t you supposed to hit a pitcher better the second time through the lineup? How do you explain going 4 for the first 7 and then 0 for the next 13 (and counting…….)? Maybe we should ask TP about that one.
We have a game plan for the first time around. Then never change it. Lilly can spell “cat” and figured out not to do the same thing twice. I think TP is just a lazy ass and doesn’t want to make a game plan for more than three innings.
“Lilly has gotten away with a lot of pitches up.”
You mean our guys can’t even hit mediocre cheese at the top of the strike zone? It is getting really hard to root for this offense.
Now Joe is going to start the injury excuses
Here is my new parody blog. It’ll be a day or two until I can figure out the theme and where exactly I want to go with it:
http://www.jeffbfrancoeur.blogspot.com
Looking forward to that, Dan.
Carlyle’s settled down. Not that it matters what he did. We’re not going to score one run, or two, or three.
Well Lilly did strike out both Frenchy and Tex in the first with change-ups in the middle of the plate at the belt.
Another fine inning for Carlyle.
Let’s get some runs, dammit.
Linked.
I think a http://www.releasejefffrancouer.com or http://www.jefffrancouersucks.com would be a great site
I miss BJ Surhoff. At least no one thought that he was any good.
Thanks Dan. I used it as theropy.
To be fair, I do think the difference between the Braves, Mets, and Phillies is injuries. That does not excuse the performances of Francoeur, Teixeira, and Bobby Cox.
Did anyone on this list NOT know after the first inning that we would lose X to 3?
so Glavine left with an elbow injury and they are saying he will miss his next start. Whats next?
Well now we know whose spot Morton will take. Glavine’s…
Is Glavine hurt?
strained left elbow according to WGN
thats what the Cubs announcers just stated
Wow…if Maddux wants to retire after this year, I think everyone will get their Big Three HOF wish.
“Ted, you have a two run lead and this is Omar Freaking Infante. Throw strikes, dumbass.”
Sadly at this point, Glavine isn’t bringing that much to the table anyway.
Well, the Fishies win. Let’s rally and gain a game.
We have to get healthy and less unlucky at some point.
Smoltz could throw better lefty than Glavine has been
Let’s face it. Omar Infante is a better hitter than Jeff Francoeur right now.
Chipper is on deck!
Get on Blanco, take one for the team
You all harp on Andruw so much, but tell me if any of you expect Francoeur to hit 370 career homers, win 10 Gold Gloves, make the All-Star team 5 times and even win a Hank Aaron Award..
What a schmuck Andruw was
Acosta warming up.
If Acosta faced Francoeur in a high-leverage situation, what would happen?
Note to Joe Simpson:
IT IS TP’S FAULT..
so dont waste Chipper here, they’ll just walk him with 1st base open
Why is Lilly tired? He came into the inning with only 80 pitches and few of them were high leverage after the first…
Maybe, that’s what Smoltz needs to do – come back as a lefty.
They are going to walk Chipper, no doubt
Do we use a position player to run for him, or Jurrjens?
Why pitch to Chipper?
Well we only have 2 possition players
Anderson and let him take Blanco’s spot
Let’s go Yunel
a double steal would be cute
I think Bobby would rather run out of players than risk another starting pitcher getting hurt. You never know what may happen these days to these pitchers.
He had his shot on the 3-0 pitch.
Should have used Jurrjens to run.
Escobar should have killed that first pitch
well thats our luck
Does anybody have a picture of Jeff Francoeur striking out or messing up in some way in an Atlanta Braves’ uniform?
Who takes a picture of something like that? It’s like taking a picture of an empty sky, or your carpet. You can see that any time.
I wasn’t exactly expecting great news out of Smoltz’s surgery, but I was hoping the news wouldn’t be quite as bad as it is. At least he started the year on such a dominant note so he can go out on top, but this sure stinks.
LOL Mac
Im assuming he missed this pitch
Acosta sucks.
Here’s a picture of Francoeur jumping around.
and Acosta keeps getting chances while Stockman and Ring rot on the bench
Why can’t we do that?
I have no confidence in our ability to score 3 and come back.
See what a stolen base can do for you
Well, Ring is there because he’s awful against righties. No reason not to play Stockman, though.
Yeah–things just keep getting better….
see what a good hitting team looks like, they’re good in clutch situations. These guys are willing to take walks, steal bases, and are able to make solid contact when they need too
#271 – true, but Acosta sucks against everyone and he’s still getting the nod
Alrighty, let’s get two more runs to cap this night off right.
actually Acosta stats look
good against RH’s
Acosta’s the pitching Francoeur. He’s only good when it doesn’t matter.
great now Bobby will say that he looked a lot better tonight
Dear Braves hitters,
Please stop swinging at the first pitch.
Thank you,
Jason.
You know, if the Braves could win a one-run game on the road without Chipper in the lineup, they’d probably go on a 20 game winning streak, or something. Only problem is the sky will fall before that happens, in which case it won’t matter anymore.
“Here’s the thunder.”
The one guy with any thunder.
Here’s a scary thought… where would we be if the Cubs fans hadn’t turned on Will Ohman?
Tex is pretty useless in clutch situations
Braves are pretty useless in clutch situations.
That’s how you are 3-17? in 1 run games
Is Tex hitless tonight?
Norton keeps it going for B-Mac.
Go figure the Cubs announcers complaining about a broken bat bloop hit….
Mighty Tex is hitless once again….
Howry is nailing that tailing fastbal.
Er, fastball.
Good job B-Mac.
Um… lets go… Infante…
McCann the Man!
And yes! A one-run deficit! Thank you, Mr. Acosta!
and now your 1 run loss, unbelievable
Bam! There! Now we’re done. Shut it down, boys!
Infante! Now we have a one run game on the road…
Omreg Norfante!
I just love that name.
Hey it’s a 1 run game now. Now we can lose
There’s your two runs, mraver.
Would Blanco need to hit a double to score McCann from 2nd?
Yeah–the Cubs have us where they want us…
That was definitely a ball to Blanco.
Am I the only one thinking the veterans are quitting on this team and “checking out of school early”?
Seriously, Blanco should have walked.
Can we get 1 break?
Nailed it!
Yeesh.
It would be nice to have a backup catcher so you actually could have pinch ran there. I’m surprised Blanco didn’t get a hit to load up the bases and then Gotay would have gotten out.
good grief, Acosta for another
306–I am sure the Braves will manage that scenario in another one run game…
Joe, are you saying the Braves should try to add on the their leads? Like when we take a 3-0 lead in the 1st.
So who will be the losing pitcher? Glavine, since he left the game behind and the team never caught up? Carlyle, because he gave up the fifth run? Or Acosta, because he gave up the winning run?
I never could get straight how loses are assigned.
Glavine
Mother…..
GET HIM OUT OF THERE!
Idiot!
if the starting pitcher leaves the game when behind and the team doesnt come back, they’ll get the loss.
Get Acosta off this team
Bobby…Wren…Acosta…Glavine…Blanco…I don’t know who to be mad at.
Wow, two errors for one at-bat. That takes talent.
The Braves defense is threatening to unmake our one run game….
Just don’t use him every game for the 7th and/or the 8th.
I hate Acosta so much right now.
that should be 3 outs, but Acosta wanted to make sure to give them an extra out and run in this game
There. Acosta wanted to make sure we didn’t lose another game by one run.
Wow, Manny is pitching okay, he’s just not doing anything else okay….
When was the last time the Braves had a catcher who could actually throw out baserunners?
This just gets uglier–that was Corkyesque…
This is one of the things that infuriates me about Bobby this year. If you are not going to use all the pitchers on your roster, then give us a damn bench!
Will Bobby PLEASE get over Acosta now???
Can I write the recap?
Good God. This is ridonculous.
i knew that would happen.
manny being manny.
So much for the “pitching well”.
Hopefully this makes it clear that Manny needs a break.
Acosta sucks!!!
Well those should all be unearned runs, so Acosta’s ERA won’t go up…. so he’ll be sure to get more innings…
good thing Bobby doesnt trust Stockman
I think we could another inning out of Acosta here.
Bobby Cox is the bomb when it comes to bullpen management — tell me again why he kept Acosta in there?
Um…Ring or Stockman could have done that. I think a Acosta delenda est campaign needs to start immediately. Wren needs to get rid of him so Bobby can’t use him anymore.
Good thing there are no more innings after this
This team is ABYSMAL at almost everything. There is nothing it does well, stats be damned.
Good night Braves fans–I have got to get to work and I look forward to looking at the antiFrenchy websites which have been posted on this thread.
Free Zach Schreiber!
Well at least now we won’t get blown away by Wood in the 9th…
yeah cant trust that can we
The amazing thing is that all those runs will probably be “unearned”.
Wow, this Stockman guy seems kind of good.
Okay, now let’s have a 4-run inning, just for fun! 😀
Now we get Stockman, right on cue. We just need to be down by five runs before he can pitch. Maybe that’s what Bobby left Acosta in. He wanted to see Stockman pitch again, but couldn’t break the established roles of when guys get to pitch. So he told Acosta to give up a lot of runs (since we weren’t going to win anyway). That’s the only reasonable explanation I can think of.
And Stockman gets the strike out. Nice.
The amazing thing is that all those runs will probably be “unearned”.
They were.
I ended up just doctoring a photo:
http://www.jeffbfrancoeur.blogspot.com
its time to Resop Acosta
They just said Glavine will probably have to miss his next start. Why?
I have never hated a Mets team as much as I hate this Braves team.
B/c, this is our year, Mike.
Paging Frank Wren…help.
strained left elbow
Bobby Cox: “well Acosta didn’t work. Guess tomorrow I’ll try Boyer again.”
so now we need starters, relievers, outfielders, and bench help…anything else?
Is Bobby accountable to anybody for recurring boneheaded managerial moves?
DP by Frenchy to end it?
354 — a bag of balls… which we’ll take in a trade for a number of players at this point
2 starters, a closer, a reliever that’s not Acosta, left fielder, centerfielder, pinch hitter(s) and backup catcher.
Smitty, if you want to write the recap email it to me. I’m going to bed at 11 CT.
what the hell frenchy you laid off two better pitches to get to 2-0 and then swing at that….
that was predictable
HA HA HA HA HA!!!!
Double play by Francoeur to end it! Perfect!
WOOT! Go Out Machine. He couldn’t have a complete game til he GIDP…
Francoeur DP. Classic way to end the game.
tip of the cap to csg, although that wasnt much of a stretch.
worst braves team i’ve ever seen.
It’s all the blue hat and blue uniform’s fault.
Oh, I’ve seen many worse, but none that made me this mad.
366, brad, you must be young (I think you’ve stated before that you are, but I can’t remember)
368 — true, back then there were no expectations
it’s been a while ago but….
sorry jeremy, i didnt mean you……i did mean brad. how foolish of me.
here’s a good recap
The Good: Braves score 3 on a two out NortonHR in the 1st, Infante got a leadoff triple in the 2nd, got useful innings from Carlyle, and Stockman got a K.
The Bad: This offense. Couldnt score Infante after his leadoff triple, Glavine sucked and left with an elbow injury, Frenchy sucked going 1-5 2K’s and a DP to end the game, Tex sucked, Blanco sucks, Bobby sucks at managing, and Acosta is satan.
At least it wasnt a one run loss, I guess
Yes, I’m sorry I didn’t suffer through the 70’s and 80’s. So this is literally the worst team I’ve seen. Except maybe last year. ’06 wasn’t very good either.
Parish,
While I think Bobby’s managing has been poor this year, Casey Stengel or Cornelius Macgillicuddy(Connie Mack) couldn’t win with this island of misfit toys.
This team is terrible, is terribly injured and is therefore overall, terrible.
Terrible roster construction + terrible injuries + terrible managing = well, this.
Acosta threw 41 pitches, going 6 batters into his 2nd inning of work. Why not let any of the 6 other guys waiting out in the pen give him some relief?
I know I asked this question a week or two ago, but give me Holliday over Tex anyday. If we are going to make a stupid offer, do it now. Offer something like 5/75 and if he turns it down, move him. We better not be buyers this year
Trade every player of value for as many LEGIT prospects in multiples, as you can, and DO IT NOW. That means Tex, Hudson, anyone and everyone not named Escobar or McCann or Jurrjens. All 22 are fair game besides those three.
This team is nowhere near as bad as those teams in the ’70s and ’80s.
This team has some talent, but is frustrating & one game under .500. Those teams didn’t have any talent (so you had zero expectations) and didn’t sniff .500.
DO IT NOW FRANK WREN or I’ll hoist you onto a pittard at the trading deadline…
I really don’t want to recap this game. I’m burned out on failure. So, do you think Smitty’s going to do it or not?
I love the Braves. But I loathe this particular Braves team. I am at the precipice of madness with this team and may not watch again until they prove they can play .333 baseball on the road. Which means I may be listening to the radio for a while …
Chipper, Huddy, Esco, Bmac, KJ, Jurr, and Joseph should all be safe. No one else would be though
Trade every player of value for as many LEGIT prospects in multiples, as you can, and DO IT NOW. That means Tex, Hudson, anyone and everyone not named Escobar or McCann or Jurrjens.
Uh…no.
“Recap” is up. I’ll do a full one in the morning if Smitty doesn’t come through.
Dan,
So we can rinse and repeat and do the same friggin things next year. Why are so many of you wed to some of these guys? They are NOT difference makers and this team(maybe even franchise) is headed nowhere but down. Can you see?
Why would you want to hold onto a 33 year old Tim Hudson if you could turn him into an above average MLB player under the age of 25 and get say 2 prospects that are legitimate.
I just don’t get this fanbase’s love affair with individual players. Hell I’d trade Chipper if I was offered a blockbuster deal like Florida got for Miguel Cabrera.
These guys are dispensable. We have exactly 1 legitimate game changing player and he’s 36 years old.