Yesterday’s complete-game shutout, while not a one-run win, was sufficiently impressive that I am posting a song that doesn’t want me to drive spikes through my eardrums.
I know people on here have referenced the Braves’ MLB article about Hampton pondering retirement. The first line in the article stikes me as directed almost exclusively at Mac. Here it is – I have to say, I love it!
“Those who predicted that Mike Hampton wouldn’t throw a pitch for the Braves this season are moving closer to being correct.”
Would you say that Mac is silencing his critics?
Cliff
on May 3, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Mac is much closer to silencing his critics than most of the other people that the phrase has been applied to.
Smitty
on May 3, 2008 at 3:41 pm
Stu,
Ramar was looking at transfering becasue his playing time was going to be cut. THe West kid is going to be good. Duke is a bigger loss, but we have three post players coming in. I bet the Vols are better next year than they were this season.
Back in February I bet a buddy of mine 10 bucks that Hampton wouldn’t pitch 40 innings this year. I’m thinking of asking for the money now.
That was an easy one, though. I’m prouder of a similar wager I made in 1994 that Juan Gonzalez would not hit 500 HRs. Seems like a sucker bet in retrospect, but I was derided at the time. The problem with those sorts of bets is that you’re likely to lose touch with your opponent over so many years. If you’re out there, Tony Knudson, I’m still lookin for ya!
Other bets — in 2001, I said Pedro would be retired by age 37, or “I’d eat my hat”. It’s coming down to the wire on that one….
Also, Paul Byrd has gone 46-37 since I predicted the end of his career in ’03….
The Second Spitter
on May 3, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Julio Franco retired offically retired today.
The Second Spitter
on May 3, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Oops, nevermind.
HamptonsMRI
on May 3, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Its really nut funny, his poor tummy hurts, and his chest and his ear and he had a bad haircut.
I hate to say this, but I HATE MIKE HAMPTON. he has managed to out carl pavano carl pavano, he is the worst brave ever, and i dont only fail him as a pitcher i fail him as a human being he should retire now! He is stealing from the braves.
other than that you can put me down as undecided on the hampton situation!
Great job by Huddy last night!
Smitty
on May 3, 2008 at 4:10 pm
In the derby, I got:
Colonel John
Big Brown
Pyro
td
on May 3, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Hey guys. I’m going to the game tomorrow, but will probably get there about 1/2 way through the game. Any suggestions on where to park and getting tickets? I’ll send my e-mail address if so.
i’ve only been to Turner Field once (I live in Miami). I parked behind a BP gas station at a rims and tires place near the ramp to I-75. paid $10 and had a jolly ole time
oh, and I sat in the Field level. $40. great view for the money
Fulton County Bombers
on May 3, 2008 at 5:04 pm
what channel is this on? It’s not on peachtree TV here…
Fulton County Bombers
on May 3, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Oh, there it is.
Marc Schneider
on May 3, 2008 at 5:07 pm
@12,
I’m glad you are able to keep baseball in the proper perspective.
Mike
on May 3, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Man, there used to be a Taco Bell right outside of the stadium that some friends of mine used to park there for free. But they shut that place down. Its a shame.
Mike
on May 3, 2008 at 5:10 pm
Also, this is from yahoo fantasy baseball news about Moylan:
May 3 – RHP Peter Moylan has begun throwing on flat ground and the results have been so good, he’s going to throw a bullpen session on Saturday. In the last two weeks, Moylan has gone from feeling “like my arm was going to explode” to cautiously optimistic that he can pitch again without elbow surgery.
Wasn’t JoJo the pitcher who kept tripping over the mound last year? I remember Chip Caray saying something about it last year
Parish
on May 3, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Way to go, Yu-stud!
Frank
on May 3, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Mac–you should, but trading Belisle away for 17 innings of Kent Mercker wasn’t too bright. Belisle (ERA+ of 97, 130, and 88 for the last three seasons) would have been better than some of the dog chow that trotted out to mound last year.
Parish
on May 3, 2008 at 5:30 pm
Well that was a missed opportunity. Tex has got to get that runner in from third with less than two out.
His splits say he’s doing alright in these situations, but to me it feels like Tex has really not come through all that much.
Maybe Joseph has turned the corner. (If this is the case, note that he had to get some success at AAA first.) Or maybe the Reds are just the worst hitting team in baseball, which considering their ballpark is quite likely.
timoreg
on May 3, 2008 at 6:02 pm
He’s throwing strikes, so at least there’s a chance that he’s turned the corner.
Frank
on May 3, 2008 at 6:04 pm
4 innings is an awfully small sample but if he’s truly improved his control McDowell deserves much of the credit. Supposedly he had Reyes adjust his heel so he’d get better leverage off the rubber.
This isn’t to say that Mazzone isn’t better than McDowell, just to give the guy a bit of credit where it appears to be due.
Who had 8:07 in the pool for first mention by Skip that he doesn’t drink anymore?
Parish
on May 3, 2008 at 6:15 pm
Thank you, Adam Dunn.
Parish
on May 3, 2008 at 6:19 pm
Reyes has done alright. But this is not the kind of pitching that results in a shut out. The Braves seriously might have to start bringing their bats to these games.
Second walk of the inning. Was he pitching around the .182 hitter?
Frank
on May 3, 2008 at 6:19 pm
two BB in the inning–Joseph reverts back to Jo Jo
braves14
on May 3, 2008 at 6:20 pm
I thought Reyes wouldn’t make it past 5 innings. I’d happily eat crow.
spike (Back in the ATL)
on May 3, 2008 at 6:22 pm
Any cynical predictions here for Hannah Montana?
THat she will turn down my invitation to the prom
Frank
on May 3, 2008 at 6:22 pm
at home managers–cash your Jo Jo chips now or bring him back for the 6th? I think I’d ph.
Parish
on May 3, 2008 at 6:23 pm
His pitch count is okay. Heck, it was great before last inning. But, Reyes is as jittery as a squirrel with runners on base.
braves14
on May 3, 2008 at 6:25 pm
I hope our offense decides to wake up. This lead is too tenuous to maintain.
Parish
on May 3, 2008 at 6:25 pm
I am okay with getting another inning out of him, but I am pretty nervous about it. It’s not so much that I think he will implode, but this looks like a game where the bats are going to lull us into a 2-1 loss.
braves14
on May 3, 2008 at 6:26 pm
and right as I say that, Kelly wakes up
Remy
on May 3, 2008 at 6:27 pm
Now let’s get Esco in.
Parish
on May 3, 2008 at 6:27 pm
…as I was saying…
braves14
on May 3, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Teixiera’s batting average has steadily climbed up to .270
Parish
on May 3, 2008 at 6:31 pm
I think that BA w/ RISP has been falling, though. It sure has this game.
Remy
on May 3, 2008 at 6:33 pm
I’m listening on satellite radio, but if Escobar took third, would the SS have played further away from the hole, thus missing Chipper’s ground ball up the middle? Why didn’t Snitker have Escobar tag up?
braves14
on May 3, 2008 at 6:35 pm
Leadoff hit. Bobby, please warm Campillo up.
braves14
on May 3, 2008 at 6:35 pm
I’m following via computer, Remy, so I dunno either.
nah–he would have come closer to hitting it if his eyes were closed
Remy
on May 3, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Chico’s about four hours away from the Bay Area, depending upon how bad traffic is in Sacramento. Lots of almond and walnut orchards here. The Cascade mountains are on one side of the valley, and the Sierra Nevadas are on the other. Beautiful place. And the people here are very friendly.
We’ll be here through the end of June, but if you’re in the Bay Area, let’s catch a game.
Frank
on May 3, 2008 at 7:04 pm
🙁
Parish
on May 3, 2008 at 7:05 pm
I agree with Mac. And doesn’t the pitcher have to face at least one batter.
Kotsay: .174 against lefties.
Blanco: .333 (2 for 6) against lefties.
Diaz: .176 against righties.
Bad, bad managing. If you’re that worried about losing Kotsay’s defense, you pretty much have to hit Blanco ahead of him, because it’s the first lefty you can hit for and know you’ll have the platoon advantage against a LOOGY.
@109
Is that really the Braves pythag record or are you really exaggerating?
and there’s your sac fly parish
Parish
on May 3, 2008 at 7:37 pm
Sac fly, YES!!
I like it when our pinch hitter gets to bat again in the same inning.
Frank
on May 3, 2008 at 7:38 pm
made up–Pythag before this game was 17-11
braves14
on May 3, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Batting around is always fun.
Parish
on May 3, 2008 at 7:40 pm
I am guessing that will go to 19-10 if anything resembling this score holds up.
braves14
on May 3, 2008 at 7:40 pm
With an 8-1 lead, will Bobby burn Boyer and Acosta’s arms again?
c. shorter
on May 3, 2008 at 7:40 pm
All these runs were scored by stringing multiple walks and hits together (no HRs)… although there was a bunt involved. (unless KJ’s sacrifice to the catcher was some sort of ritual that doesn’t get a written up explanation on-line)
braves14
on May 3, 2008 at 7:42 pm
Boyer I guess had already warmed up. I hope Bobby rests Acosta for another day after that atrocity up in Washington.
c. shorter
on May 3, 2008 at 7:43 pm
Let Resop pitch. No need to warm up. Just let ‘er rip, son. Oh, that hurts? well…
Frank
on May 3, 2008 at 7:44 pm
actually it’ll be 18-11 if the score holds
the 17-11 entering this game has rounding–it’s really 16.56-11.44 which rounds to 17-11
unrounded–if the score holds–would be 17.79-11.21
Frank
on May 3, 2008 at 7:45 pm
just might be a good time for ole Reslop
Parish
on May 3, 2008 at 7:49 pm
The score may not hold, but I am guessing we need about 10 more runs to make it 19-10.
A Braves pitcher and career-minor leaguer was trying to get his first career save, having started as a long reliever when he came up from the minors and finally got to get his first save opportunity.
But Jay Powell’s arm pretty much snapped in two as he delivered a pitch. I’m glad Moylan stopped that bullpen session and will hopefully get surgery.. I never want to see that Powell thing ever again.
braves14
on May 3, 2008 at 8:02 pm
I saw that game, FCB. I wish I hadn’t seen that inning, that hurt to watch.
Great song. Reminds me of riding in my parents’ Chevette circa. 1985.
I just watched the “Invisible Touch” video on YouTube, posted by a guy named “FrankGenesis” and somehow Phil Collins plays guitar AND drums.
He is actually that good.
More on Julio’s decision to retire:
http://tinyurl.com/5ebmsw
I know people on here have referenced the Braves’ MLB article about Hampton pondering retirement. The first line in the article stikes me as directed almost exclusively at Mac. Here it is – I have to say, I love it!
“Those who predicted that Mike Hampton wouldn’t throw a pitch for the Braves this season are moving closer to being correct.”
Would you say that Mac is silencing his critics?
Mac is much closer to silencing his critics than most of the other people that the phrase has been applied to.
Stu,
Ramar was looking at transfering becasue his playing time was going to be cut. THe West kid is going to be good. Duke is a bigger loss, but we have three post players coming in. I bet the Vols are better next year than they were this season.
What’s the over/under on BBs given up by Jo-Jo?
Back in February I bet a buddy of mine 10 bucks that Hampton wouldn’t pitch 40 innings this year. I’m thinking of asking for the money now.
That was an easy one, though. I’m prouder of a similar wager I made in 1994 that Juan Gonzalez would not hit 500 HRs. Seems like a sucker bet in retrospect, but I was derided at the time. The problem with those sorts of bets is that you’re likely to lose touch with your opponent over so many years. If you’re out there, Tony Knudson, I’m still lookin for ya!
Other bets — in 2001, I said Pedro would be retired by age 37, or “I’d eat my hat”. It’s coming down to the wire on that one….
Also, Paul Byrd has gone 46-37 since I predicted the end of his career in ’03….
Julio Franco retired offically retired today.
Oops, nevermind.
Its really nut funny, his poor tummy hurts, and his chest and his ear and he had a bad haircut.
I hate to say this, but I HATE MIKE HAMPTON. he has managed to out carl pavano carl pavano, he is the worst brave ever, and i dont only fail him as a pitcher i fail him as a human being he should retire now! He is stealing from the braves.
other than that you can put me down as undecided on the hampton situation!
Great job by Huddy last night!
In the derby, I got:
Colonel John
Big Brown
Pyro
Hey guys. I’m going to the game tomorrow, but will probably get there about 1/2 way through the game. Any suggestions on where to park and getting tickets? I’ll send my e-mail address if so.
i’ve only been to Turner Field once (I live in Miami). I parked behind a BP gas station at a rims and tires place near the ramp to I-75. paid $10 and had a jolly ole time
oh, and I sat in the Field level. $40. great view for the money
what channel is this on? It’s not on peachtree TV here…
Oh, there it is.
@12,
I’m glad you are able to keep baseball in the proper perspective.
Man, there used to be a Taco Bell right outside of the stadium that some friends of mine used to park there for free. But they shut that place down. Its a shame.
Also, this is from yahoo fantasy baseball news about Moylan:
May 3 – RHP Peter Moylan has begun throwing on flat ground and the results have been so good, he’s going to throw a bullpen session on Saturday. In the last two weeks, Moylan has gone from feeling “like my arm was going to explode” to cautiously optimistic that he can pitch again without elbow surgery.
If we get embarrassed by Matt Belisle, I definitely will throw things.
Wasn’t JoJo the pitcher who kept tripping over the mound last year? I remember Chip Caray saying something about it last year
Way to go, Yu-stud!
Mac–you should, but trading Belisle away for 17 innings of Kent Mercker wasn’t too bright. Belisle (ERA+ of 97, 130, and 88 for the last three seasons) would have been better than some of the dog chow that trotted out to mound last year.
Well that was a missed opportunity. Tex has got to get that runner in from third with less than two out.
His splits say he’s doing alright in these situations, but to me it feels like Tex has really not come through all that much.
I like how Kotsay even got himself in position to make a quick throw to 2nd. Plus he’s hitting above .220
Just tuned in. Haven’t heard Skip in awhile, is he sick tonight or is this just how he sounds these days?
Skip isn’t well, no. He sounds better than he did earlier this year.
Frank, that’s why I would throw things. I hated that deal. Hated it.
Look at Jo Jo go go!
Maybe Joseph has turned the corner. (If this is the case, note that he had to get some success at AAA first.) Or maybe the Reds are just the worst hitting team in baseball, which considering their ballpark is quite likely.
He’s throwing strikes, so at least there’s a chance that he’s turned the corner.
4 innings is an awfully small sample but if he’s truly improved his control McDowell deserves much of the credit. Supposedly he had Reyes adjust his heel so he’d get better leverage off the rubber.
This isn’t to say that Mazzone isn’t better than McDowell, just to give the guy a bit of credit where it appears to be due.
29 strikes, 18 balls. Acceptable, even good, but not great, considering how many of these guys will swing at anything.
Any cynical predictions here for Hannah Montana?
at least it wasn’t a dp
I was betting on Francoeur bunting there.
Two straight lame-o ABs there.
Who had 8:07 in the pool for first mention by Skip that he doesn’t drink anymore?
Thank you, Adam Dunn.
Reyes has done alright. But this is not the kind of pitching that results in a shut out. The Braves seriously might have to start bringing their bats to these games.
Second walk of the inning. Was he pitching around the .182 hitter?
two BB in the inning–Joseph reverts back to Jo Jo
I thought Reyes wouldn’t make it past 5 innings. I’d happily eat crow.
Any cynical predictions here for Hannah Montana?
THat she will turn down my invitation to the prom
at home managers–cash your Jo Jo chips now or bring him back for the 6th? I think I’d ph.
His pitch count is okay. Heck, it was great before last inning. But, Reyes is as jittery as a squirrel with runners on base.
I hope our offense decides to wake up. This lead is too tenuous to maintain.
I am okay with getting another inning out of him, but I am pretty nervous about it. It’s not so much that I think he will implode, but this looks like a game where the bats are going to lull us into a 2-1 loss.
and right as I say that, Kelly wakes up
Now let’s get Esco in.
…as I was saying…
Teixiera’s batting average has steadily climbed up to .270
I think that BA w/ RISP has been falling, though. It sure has this game.
I’m listening on satellite radio, but if Escobar took third, would the SS have played further away from the hole, thus missing Chipper’s ground ball up the middle? Why didn’t Snitker have Escobar tag up?
Leadoff hit. Bobby, please warm Campillo up.
I’m following via computer, Remy, so I dunno either.
No bite on that Jo Jo hook.
His command has gotten worse.
Jo-Jo is nervous again. 3-0 to Votto.
Three steals this inning doesn’t help either.
Is anyone warming up?
“Jeff Bennett relieved Jo-Jo Reyes.”
Well, that answers that.
Bennett in now.
The ph for Reyes managers win.
Parish @48–right feeling but wrong score–I’ll go with 3-2 instead of 2-1
Make that 4-2 b/c Ohman is coming in.
With 2 outs, Ohman in to face Dunn. (I think I’d prefer Ring in this situation)
Oh lord, the “long reliever” throws 4 pitches in his outing again.
Dunn’s 1/12 against Ohman, with 7 Ks.
Dunn vs Ohman lifetime, 1 for 12 with 7 Ks
Jinx! Y’owe me a Coke.
Ah. That answers that.
8 Ks, now.
You got it! Hell, I’ll buy you an Anchor Steam!
Good call Remy.
Dunn is a gift that just keeps on giving.
I’ll take that outing from Reyes pretty much anyday. That will earn him another start, I’d think.
Remy,
Good man. The taste of NoCal.
I guess Campillo is in line to pitch the 7th, Boyer the 8th, and Acosta the 9th.
Actually, Chico, California, where I’ve been living since December, is the home of the Sierra Nevada brewery. Not a bad second choice.
with a LOOGY appearance by Ring mixed in
No matter who pitches, let’s score some more runs.
Way to go, Frenchy.
Gameday shows the Frenchy double coming off of his shoe tops. Is that right?
Maybe he is not swinging at enough balls in the dirt.
Sierra Nevada and Anchor are both fine breweries. Rogue in Oregon is also superb.
Big fan of Anchor for sure. Probably my favorite American beer, esp. when I can get it on tap. Always enjoy those San Fran visits.
How far is Chico from the Bay Area?
Should have hit Diaz for Kotsay, not Blanco. Bad managing. Bad, bad managing.
good call manager Mac
Kotsay swung like his eyes were closed there.
nah–he would have come closer to hitting it if his eyes were closed
Chico’s about four hours away from the Bay Area, depending upon how bad traffic is in Sacramento. Lots of almond and walnut orchards here. The Cascade mountains are on one side of the valley, and the Sierra Nevadas are on the other. Beautiful place. And the people here are very friendly.
We’ll be here through the end of June, but if you’re in the Bay Area, let’s catch a game.
🙁
I agree with Mac. And doesn’t the pitcher have to face at least one batter.
On the season:
Kotsay: .174 against lefties.
Blanco: .333 (2 for 6) against lefties.
Diaz: .176 against righties.
Bad, bad managing. If you’re that worried about losing Kotsay’s defense, you pretty much have to hit Blanco ahead of him, because it’s the first lefty you can hit for and know you’ll have the platoon advantage against a LOOGY.
Remy,
You got it. Love the Bay Area, always have.
I laugh at Corey Patterson. People wanted us to get that guy?! He actually poses when he swings.
I like Campillo. He tops out at 86 but at least he throws strikes.
Make ’em pay, Chipper.
C’mon Tex. Knock in some runs for once
It is time for Tex to come through.
That will work. 3-1 Braves
I was hoping for a lucky dribbler through the infield from our masher, but I’ll take a walk.
Now, how about a sac fly, B-mac?
Your prayers are answered, Parish. And then some!
McCann!
Let’s get some more.
This Burton guy has a nice K/BB ratio.
Frenchy!
I love Kotsay
Kotsay!!!
Kotsay could not wait to jump on that fastball.
Why not everybody get a hit?
I am still waiting for that sac fly!!
So what’s the pythag record now, 25-4?
I love a parade, but I love a hitting parade even better.
@109
Is that really the Braves pythag record or are you really exaggerating?
and there’s your sac fly parish
Sac fly, YES!!
I like it when our pinch hitter gets to bat again in the same inning.
made up–Pythag before this game was 17-11
Batting around is always fun.
I am guessing that will go to 19-10 if anything resembling this score holds up.
With an 8-1 lead, will Bobby burn Boyer and Acosta’s arms again?
All these runs were scored by stringing multiple walks and hits together (no HRs)… although there was a bunt involved. (unless KJ’s sacrifice to the catcher was some sort of ritual that doesn’t get a written up explanation on-line)
Boyer I guess had already warmed up. I hope Bobby rests Acosta for another day after that atrocity up in Washington.
Let Resop pitch. No need to warm up. Just let ‘er rip, son. Oh, that hurts? well…
actually it’ll be 18-11 if the score holds
the 17-11 entering this game has rounding–it’s really 16.56-11.44 which rounds to 17-11
unrounded–if the score holds–would be 17.79-11.21
just might be a good time for ole Reslop
The score may not hold, but I am guessing we need about 10 more runs to make it 19-10.
What is the formula?
I know I can’t get enough of the hitting theories of a career .242 .289 .317 hitter.
The Pythagorean formula is the same as the one you learned in school and then forgot:
(Runs Scored Squared)/(Runs Scored Squared) + (Runs Allowed Squared)
Sounds like Moylan might be finally officially done.
http://tinyurl.com/4p585y
it would take a 17-1 win to get the Pythag record to 19-10
formula is runs scored raised to 1.83 divided by (runs scored raised to 1.83 plus runs allowed raised to 1.83)
some folks use 2 instead of 1.83
two ABs tonight for Francouer in which he couldn’t even deliver a sac fly
Fanfare for Resop!
braves14,
I was at a Braves game in July 2005..
A Braves pitcher and career-minor leaguer was trying to get his first career save, having started as a long reliever when he came up from the minors and finally got to get his first save opportunity.
But Jay Powell’s arm pretty much snapped in two as he delivered a pitch. I’m glad Moylan stopped that bullpen session and will hopefully get surgery.. I never want to see that Powell thing ever again.
I saw that game, FCB. I wish I hadn’t seen that inning, that hurt to watch.
I remember that. It was bleeping gross.
Nice inning for Resop. Braves win!
words you’ll never hear again “Resop gets them one, two, three in the ninth”
Powell actually had 22 career saves.
Marlins, Phils, and Mets lose.
So, we’re within 2 games of the Phils?
Recap is up.
as dreadful as it’s been.
We still have a major concern in Smoltz. If he cannot be a starter, we have a pretty significant hole with no real way to fix it.