Looks like it might start late, but they should get it in at some point. Which sucks for me — I’ve got two tickets, but evening plans I can’t break. So two of those 25000 empty seats will be me….
You guys should ALL be jealous of me because I got my reward in the mail today for winning BP’s Hacking Mass thingie… a framed, signed picture of Bud Selig.
That’s great, josh! Congratulations. I thought the Selig picture was a joke. I shall look forward to having my own copy, as I signed up last night for the first time:
Jason Kendall
Richie Sexson
Luis Castillo
Jorge Cantu
Cristian Guzman
Shannon Stewart
Mark Kotsay (had to do it)
Brad Wilkerson
Jason Jennings
Vicente Padilla
supposedly the outfield has an underground watering system which can run the pumps backwards to provide accelerated draining. I doubt if they will have much delay at all (at least that’s my hope). Two of the seats occupied will be me and my wife 😉
Joe Buck informs us (twice) that the Braves signed Kotsay to a one-year contract this past offseason. According to Tim McCarver, this was done to replace Andre Jones.
Thanks, Mac. When he does speak, you can really hear it in his voice. I just wasn’t sure what the radio broadcasts were usually like. I’m sure he doesn’t want to be anywhere else in the world though.
I’m actually glad Chipper didn’t reach across teh runner to snag that throw from Kotsay. I’ll give up that run to keep Chipper from getting run over by a moose like Delgado.
They should have called no play. There’s no rule that says that they can do that, but that situation was screwed up from the beginning. And Pagan definitely would have passed him no matter what.
krugerindustrialsmoothing
on April 5, 2008 at 3:51 pm
Sorry if that comment seemed a little out of place, I was pausing and rewinding the TIVO there. I think they should have reversed the call but called Pagan out. Bases loaded, 2 outs, no runs across. Braves got jobbed there no doubt.
Good point, Mac. I’m a little disappointed in Prado this week. I miss KJ. I would be glad to see switchin Gotay in there even if he’s as bad against lefties as they say.
That said, I’ve never really liked that play where the runner gets thrown out trying to advance on a throw to the plate. It seems like a lot of the time, you’re sacrificing an out unnecessarily. I mean, if it’s going to be close, then maybe wait until the throw gets back to the catcher. On a close play, you’ve got to figure that the catcher won’t be able to turn around and gun it to 2B after either surviving a collision or diving after a runner to make the tag.
It seems like you’re saying, “He guys! Don’t get the runner at the plate, I’m a MUCH easier out. Cut off the throw and get me!” But why do that if your guy’s already got a good shot? Maybe in a tie game or if you’re down by 1 or something. But if it’s not game-deciding, screw it! Keep the inning going a little longer….
Seems like this would have been a good time to let Jo-Jo allow our pen some rest. If you’re not gonna use him, why call him up? Shades of Devine last year when our pen deperately needed some rest.
“It’s flawed over 5 games, but over 162 it works well enough.”
Tell that to the Diamondbacks just last season. They gave up more runs than they scored, and Pythagorean says they should have been 79-83, but they were actually 90-72.
With a four-run lead I would have probably brought Soriano in, too.
I am not so sure about this “he was already warmed up, so we had to use him” philosophy. We know that Soriano threw at least 17 more live game pitches than he would have if he sat down after Francoeur’s double. That is meaningful, isn’t it?
I mean, we would be more likely to bring a reliever back the next day if he only threw 17 pitches in the previous game as opposed to 34, no matter what he did in warming up. The rest of not coming into the game is worth something, right?
and keep in mind that we made a 6-run game halfway through that inning–he could have shut it down then, and he might have only thrown a few warmup pitches.
So…should I try and go to the game today?
Is there any chance they play today?
Looks like it might start late, but they should get it in at some point. Which sucks for me — I’ve got two tickets, but evening plans I can’t break. So two of those 25000 empty seats will be me….
if they want to start at 7 pm then it might be okay, depends on how well the outfield drains…
http://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/USGA0028?from=36hr_topnav_undeclared
Of course the weekend comes and no Braves to watch…. Figures.
You guys should ALL be jealous of me because I got my reward in the mail today for winning BP’s Hacking Mass thingie… a framed, signed picture of Bud Selig.
It’s on my wall right now.
From the <a href=”http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/braves/stories/2008/04/04/hampton_0405.html”AJC, regarding Hampton.
This reminds me of the classic Simpson’s line, “Zero is a percent.”
That’s great, josh! Congratulations. I thought the Selig picture was a joke. I shall look forward to having my own copy, as I signed up last night for the first time:
Jason Kendall
Richie Sexson
Luis Castillo
Jorge Cantu
Cristian Guzman
Shannon Stewart
Mark Kotsay (had to do it)
Brad Wilkerson
Jason Jennings
Vicente Padilla
Who’s your ’08 roster?
Dammit! Sorry about the html foul up.
Haha, I’m filling out my ’08 roster right now. So far all I have is :
Kendall
Aurilia
Jose Lopez
Amezaga
Little Tony Pena
I’ve been debating Amezaga vs. Jose Castillo for way too long though.
Ok so I’ve at least temporarily decided upon a lineup of
Kendall
Aurilia
Jose Lopez
Amezaga
Tony Pena
Dave Roberts
Kotsay (sigh)
Norris Hopper
Jason Jennings
Steve Trachsel
But odds are I’m gonna spaz out and change at least 2 of these guys before the deadline.
supposedly the outfield has an underground watering system which can run the pumps backwards to provide accelerated draining. I doubt if they will have much delay at all (at least that’s my hope). Two of the seats occupied will be me and my wife 😉
At least the Cardianls are slowing down the mighty Washington Nationals juggernaut.
FYI – Sal Fasano just singled and is now 3-for-3 with Richmond today.
so he just used up his hit quota for april
So is KJ hurt and I missed it or something? Or is Prado taking on the role of “unnecessary platoon man Version 2008”?
KJ’s hurt. Knee.
Also, there is an article on Hanson’s performance from last night over at MiLB’s web site.
Hudson’s sinker looks pretty evil so far.
I think Kotsay should stick to his day job – sucking at baseball.
This is my first listen with Gameday Audio, and I was just curious if Skip ever gets a chance to talk.
Pete is a machine. He’s a great announcer, but at the same time he’s his own broadcast partner.
I heard Skip on the pregame but that’s about it so far…
Joe Buck informs us (twice) that the Braves signed Kotsay to a one-year contract this past offseason. According to Tim McCarver, this was done to replace Andre Jones.
Skip really isn’t well at all, Kyle. Listening on Thursday night, I got the feeling that he can’t do any more.
Thanks, Mac. When he does speak, you can really hear it in his voice. I just wasn’t sure what the radio broadcasts were usually like. I’m sure he doesn’t want to be anywhere else in the world though.
Shut up, McCarver. Where’s Deion when you need him?
that’s our Frenchy–throw him enough slop and he’ll eventually swing at it
Aw, Frenchy…
Joshtothemaxx, who are you, Brian Sabean?
what is up with that lady’s teeth behind home plate? it looks like she’s about to take a bite out of the batter. very disturbing.
Fuck Prado.
Prado is killing me.
Boy, our infield play is killing us so far.
Wow, Prado sucks. Two consecutive terrible defensive plays. Ugh.
AAR—
I think that my team proves that Sabean has been mixing up his HACKINGMASS and Giants lineups for the past few years.
Looks like Chipper should have had Delgado out at third there, but was on the wrong side of the bag.
is that how u turn a double?
Hudson with his usual bad luck…
Honestly, Gotay can’t be any worse defensively and I know he’ll outhit Prado.
Well that was unfortunate.
What’s that, one run on 3 ground balls? Still, it looks like Tim’s got it tonight, so I’m optimistic about our chances.
stop with those teeth…someone please remove her.
We get one run, shoulda got more.
They get one run, shoulda got none.
New tagline.
Huddy’s got some sick stuff workin so far
I’m actually glad Chipper didn’t reach across teh runner to snag that throw from Kotsay. I’ll give up that run to keep Chipper from getting run over by a moose like Delgado.
So Pete just said that Smoltz will pitch tomorrow. So is Glavine pitching on Monday then, I’m assuming ?
ahh the first delenda est of the regular season.
Oh God… McCarver attempting to imitate Dick Vitale…/dies/
And we still can’t bunt.
I’d forgotten how little I missed Buck and McCarver.
God spare me from Tim and Joe.
Today’s fun fact… Teixeira entered today’s game with an OPS+ of 9.
That’s not easy to do.
Prado earned his delenda stripes less than a week into the season. Does this beat the record previously held by Langerhans?
Even though he hasn’t done a lot yet, am I the only one thinking that Kotsay won’t be god awful? Just merely “sort of average”?
“Sort of average” … quite the relief, because I always see Raul Mondesi potential with veteran injury reclamation projects in the outfield.
I said we needed KJ back, and three seconds later Prado didn’t turn the double play. KJ—get better!
Yeah!
I need to get Diaz on my fantasy team.
Matt Diaz for president!
Timely hitting. Bravo, Bravos. Keep it up.
KJ would have beaten that out.
I don’t know that for sure, but I’m assuming.
It’s a safe assumption … as safe as assuming Resop will let runners on base in every appearance.
Wow! Huddy has some run support!
I just realized Xavier Nady has gotten more points for my fantasy team the Teixeira. hmmmmmm
Isn’t he a free agent after this year?
JB, take a look at Nady’s splits over the last couple years. He always seems to start hot, but he turns back into Xavier Nady by the end of May or so.
Yeah he was one of my list draft picks I somehow got.
Tex will be Tex soon. He’s just having a bad Spring so far.
Which do I hate more….
McCarver’s voice, or the Mets.
Tough one.
I hate the shift anyway, but it’s even stupider with someone whose bat speed is as down as Delgado’s.
The announcers never fail me: whenever Hudson is pitching, once he’s at the plate someone mentions what a good college hitter he was. Good times.
Huddy with 69 pitches through 4.
You know what would be great?
If Deion Sanders walked and doused Tim McCarver and then announces his return to baseball…again.
Chipper just continues to be a machine
this would be a nice time for Tex to warm up
🙂
and he does…
base knock RBI
This is weird. I’m used to few, big hits from the Braves; this year, we’ve been hitting a lot of singles.
Heh. Not complaining about the two-hits-and-a-walk-per-inning pace, but it’d be nice to see a double at some point. 🙂
So far, Maine’s got a really weird line:
4 IP 4 ER 8 H 3BB 5K
Hudson’s looked good, but I doubt he’ll go more than 6, and if next inning is a long one, he may not even do that.
Tim Hudson > John Maine
I love good situational hitting though, Nathan.
mraver,
I think 6 IP w/ 1ER would be a good line for Hudson.
on second thought we may see Huddy come out in the fifth if he can’t get some outs here.
the way this inning has started, that’d be a fantastic line
damn that was a must out
uh…. terrible call but I’ll take it
We were due for a break.
Wow. Just wow.
Christmas came early this year
Wow. Incredibly awful call.
LOL finally some luck
Spoke too soon. What a mess.
nooooooooooooooo
wait wtf i’ve never seen them overturn a call like this. ever ever ever.
how can you reverse a call of this sort b/c of the baserunning blunders?
Um … it’s a horrendous call, but memo to the umpires … baseball doesn’t have instant replay!
Can’t reverse this–the play was still going. Nothing they do will work.
They can’t reverse this legally?!!
this is a mess! there’s got to be at least one out come out of this though
Reversing this call is ridiculous I say. Calls are fucked all the time, we can’t start this pseudo-instand replay bull shit.
no instant replays and no reverse calls. no red flags.
Protest it
I see Reasop going in to play left field after all of this.
If Andruw were still here, he would have gotten that, and there would be no issues. Just saying.
Bobby should protest the game
There’s only two fair solutions:
1) Don’t count the play.
2) Count the hit, but the Mets have two outs and the bases loaded.
Anything else is a sham.
Andruw would have caught that.
Well I’m pissed off now. Protest this crap!
this is some bush league shit.
If the umps blow one to the disadvantage of the braves later this game and don’t reverse it, Cox will go ape sh!t.
3 blind mice, 3 blind mice, …
This is some arbitrary $#!t here.
Well…. I guess the score and situation is now what it should be had the call been made correctly and assuming the same Castillo and Wright outcomes?
/glass half full
but no one actually touched home plate!
They should have called no play. There’s no rule that says that they can do that, but that situation was screwed up from the beginning. And Pagan definitely would have passed him no matter what.
How can they not call an out when a baserunner obviously passed another one?
Call me a pessimist, but this is just not our week.
the initial call was wrong but the reversal screws huddy and the braves b/c the delay and warming back up add to his pitch count
Sorry if that comment seemed a little out of place, I was pausing and rewinding the TIVO there. I think they should have reversed the call but called Pagan out. Bases loaded, 2 outs, no runs across. Braves got jobbed there no doubt.
The McCarver “erect talk” talk that inning was just painful…
Hudson is evidently rattled.
Man I love Carlos Beltran.
Six innings, 3 runs. Not too bad from Hudson, considering everything.
And at least one of those “earned” runs happened because Prado couldn’t turn a double play.
I like Gotay, but that may be because he isn’t Prado.
Good job Gotay.
INSURANCE IS NEEDED
Good point, Mac. I’m a little disappointed in Prado this week. I miss KJ. I would be glad to see switchin Gotay in there even if he’s as bad against lefties as they say.
well, it’s not like Kotsay was followed by a guy that KILLS the mets there, what? oh never mind.
A little relief, please…
Nice one, Kotsay!
That said, I’ve never really liked that play where the runner gets thrown out trying to advance on a throw to the plate. It seems like a lot of the time, you’re sacrificing an out unnecessarily. I mean, if it’s going to be close, then maybe wait until the throw gets back to the catcher. On a close play, you’ve got to figure that the catcher won’t be able to turn around and gun it to 2B after either surviving a collision or diving after a runner to make the tag.
It seems like you’re saying, “He guys! Don’t get the runner at the plate, I’m a MUCH easier out. Cut off the throw and get me!” But why do that if your guy’s already got a good shot? Maybe in a tie game or if you’re down by 1 or something. But if it’s not game-deciding, screw it! Keep the inning going a little longer….
Prado, Prado…
My God, Prado. Get him out of there.
Prado??????
So that’s what, two double plays Prado’s bungled?
Is there anything worse than “delenda est” you can up there for Prado?
can put up there, that is.
That Prado…such a better defensive player than Kelly Johnson, huh?
mraver,
I didn’t like that play either (or the one Prado just had).
He just assumed a play at the play but inning killers like those don’t do it for me.
I love it when Reyes pops up.
Have you ever seen a player have a worse game defensively without being charged with an “error”? Unearned runs, my butt.
Moylan is just cool
Wonder who will be next
Jorge Sosa eh?
I’m feeling optimistic
Time for some more tack-ons…
How ’bout a solo blast off Sosa?
Rosenthal has us winning it all? I like Robothal.
“Smoltz will pitch on Sunday vs. Santana, Glavine to go vs. Rox”
http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080405&content_id=2494680&vkey=news_atl&fext=.jsp&c_id=atl
and Buck’s very predictable response is: Lets talk about the Yankees!
So noone told Tex that Sosa can’t throw strikes
This ridiculous conversation about a pitcher who retired 40 years ago is sponsored by Jeff Torborg!
Santana vs. Koufax? Really?
Rally, rally…
I don’t get what that analogy was about.
Ugh, Diaz. 5 pitches, no strikes, K.
Santana pitches for a New York team now, so he’s automatically the best pitcher in the history of baseball.
were any of those strikes?
Ok Prado, time to redeem youself
By the way, did y’all hear that Leo Mazzone has been hired as an analyst for Fox? Weird.
Diaz and any Brave should know not to come out swinging at Jorge Sosa’s masterwork, because he carries his own shovel for self-burial.
Mazzone is supposed to be a rather personable guy, so I’m not really surprised that someone wanted to give him a shot as a talking head.
If we don’t get a run here, I can just tell that the Mets will rally and Sosa will get the win.
OMG that was low KJ…….oh man
Kelly Johnson!
KJ!
KELLY
There you go, Kelly!
Well, that’s the Jorge Sosa we all remember!
WHEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
I love KJ so much. Heal, KJ’s knee. Heal.
Well, hope Prado enjoyed his time.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
yeeeeeeehawwwwww!
KJ!!!!
Hooray! Kelly Kirk Gibson Johnson!
Sandy Koufax > Sosa
Hint: when we release pitchers, it usually means something, Mets.
There’s the Sosa we know and loathe.
So Bobby….is KJ ready to come bac yet?
Oh, and is anyone surprised that Fox found a way to talk about the Yankees for an entire inning during a Braves/Mets boradcast?
Next Saturday: Yankees at Red Sox. Oh boy.
So abusive, it’s was lovely.
is 6 runs enough?
Sandy Koufax > Sosa
That’s among my favorite comments ever posted here.
This would be a good situation for a bunt? No it wouldn’t, you idiot.
I think it would, because of the stupid shift. It’s a free single and they need baserunners.
But with Delgado?
I could beat out a bunt against this shift. I hate it.
Sandy Koufax > Royce Ring
me > royce ring
This is pretty awful.
Prado> Sosa
OK, he didn’t blow a 6-run lead. I’ll take it—for now.
I think your standards might be a wee low there.
You know, Kotsay kinda looks like LaRoche at the plate.
Mac,
I want to win the game. That’s the only standard I care about right now.
Nelson Figueroa…not the solution.
g-g-g-g-game ovah!
Hey, Carlos… Andruw would have gotten that!
Frenchy, the 2-out RBI freak.
But Brad! Timmy says Nelson was the MVP of the Taiwanese league last year!
pythagorean record just keeps getting better and better!
No kidding.
5 games, 3 times over 10 runs. I can get used to that.
Can you see the major flaw in Pythagorean? Three one run losses and two blowout wins.
…and, our closer in a 6-run game.
It’s flawed over 5 games, but over 162 it works well enough.
Seems like this would have been a good time to let Jo-Jo allow our pen some rest. If you’re not gonna use him, why call him up? Shades of Devine last year when our pen deperately needed some rest.
Or was Soriano already warmed up?
If we has already warmed up, he shouldn’t have been…we started last inning up by 4.
*he was
Bringing Soriano into what was a 9-5 game doesn’t bother me.
Haha, made Reyes look like a scrub.
It will if he’s tired by August.
“It’s flawed over 5 games, but over 162 it works well enough.”
Tell that to the Diamondbacks just last season. They gave up more runs than they scored, and Pythagorean says they should have been 79-83, but they were actually 90-72.
“Seriously, whoever loses this game should just start trading away everything and hope for a good draft to maybe compete in 2012.”
Prado, Pena and a Frank Wren autograph for Santana?
Oh, I love to beat the Mets.
Brad,
You play the games to win right now. We’re 1-3 coming into this one. Not gonna send out Jo-Jo into a 4-run game. Not me, sorry.
Still had Acosta, Ohman, and (gulp) Resop…wasn’t a terrible move, just didn’t like it.
Haven’t you seen enough of those guys already?
With a four-run lead I would have probably brought Soriano in, too.
I am not so sure about this “he was already warmed up, so we had to use him” philosophy. We know that Soriano threw at least 17 more live game pitches than he would have if he sat down after Francoeur’s double. That is meaningful, isn’t it?
I mean, we would be more likely to bring a reliever back the next day if he only threw 17 pitches in the previous game as opposed to 34, no matter what he did in warming up. The rest of not coming into the game is worth something, right?
and keep in mind that we made a 6-run game halfway through that inning–he could have shut it down then, and he might have only thrown a few warmup pitches.
I had no problem with using Soriano, as I reveal in the recap which is now up.
that’s what Mike Gonzales if for…
Can we win a game without ruminating over ways we could’ve somehow lost it?
A Reminder: We just stomped the Mets’ guts out. Soriano went 1-2-3. It’s over. Enjoy it.