Today’s game thread video is dedicated to Joe Morgan!
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Today’s game thread video is dedicated to Joe Morgan!
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Here’s to a win tonight.
I just discovered this song! The video is pretty incredible too.
Come on Buddy, give us 7 innings.
dang its so freakin hot outside! here’s to another series win for the Braves
Mets are up 5-4 bottom 7
Although I agree with the consensus that Joe Morgan is a poor commentator, he was one of the best ballplayers I ever saw.
Re: The video
“They wear platform shoes on their nasty little feet…”
Still hysterical. Can you believe that was a pop-radio hit in the late-’70s? I mean, you used to hear “Short People” as often as you hear “Sexyback.” Crazy.
Randy Newman recommendation: “Good Ol’ Boys,” one of the great albums about The South—the old one & the new one. Of course, it includes “Louisiana 1927.” Try to listen to that now & not get emotional. I fall apart.
I’m off to Atlantic City for my annual DJ convention. I will be in the Irish Pub on the Boardwalk in time for the game tonight. The Braves/Phils, a Guinness pint & some fish-n-chips all in front of me.
Big effort tonight, Buddy, please?
Oh, doesn’t it seem bad that the Braves let Kei Igawa pass them on the waiver wire? He is owed 5 mill a year for 4 years. The Braves had (apparently) targeted him before the bidding last year and he has options. Considering what a 5 million pitcher is now, that would probably be a good pick up.
Now the Padres are on the clock.
Hey, Bobby, try using Moylan or Acosta in the 8th inning tonight instead of Soriano.
new orleans had a record setting heat index of 126 degrees yesterday. our air conditioning hasnt reached it’s cooling point in 3 days. its crazy hot all over right now.
#6, there’s a reason he was on the waiver wire. What about his 6.79 era and 15 hr in 62.1 innings do you think should have interested the Braves? We have plenty of cheaper alternatives already that can give us bad starting pitching.
One thing I noticed as I was checking out some box scores is how there are a ton of good setup guys just getting bombed right now since the all-star break. Its probably a combination of hitters warming up as the season goes along and pitchers fatiguing, but its definitely interesting. I wonder if a lot of it also has to do with other teams scouting opposing ace relievers so much that hitters have made adjustments while also allowing some other relievers to kind of emerge under the radar (i.e. Moylan, Villareal) so to speak. Here are just a few that stood out, but I’m sure there are quite a few more.
Pat Neshek
Pre All-Star: 42.1 ip, 1.70 era, 31 baserunners allowed
Post All-Star: 12.2 ip, 4.26 era, 18 baserunners allowed
Scot Shields
Pre All-Star: 47.2 ip, 1.70 era, 42 baserunners allowed
Post All-Star: 12.1 ip, 7.30 era, 26 baserunners allowed
Eric Gagne
Pre All-Star: 27.1 ip, 1.32 era, 26 baserunners allowed
Post All-Star: 9.2 ip, 10.24 era, 20 baserunners allowed
Rafael Soriano
Pre All-Star: 38.2 ip, 2.79 era, 32 baserunners allowed
Post All-Star: 13 ip, 6.92 era, 18 baserunners allowed
We really need Soriano for the stretch run and the playoffs, so I suggest we sit him for a few days. I have all the confidence in Moylan, and god forgive me, Oscar as well. I dont trust Soriano right now, I can almost call it when gives up a long ball….97mph heat is great, but all these guys in the bigs can mash a fastball…has he maybe lost confidence in his other pitches?
http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070812&content_id=2145265&vkey=news_atl&fext=.jsp&c_id=atl
Braves signed Jason Heyward.
TSS,
He only has one other pitch, a slider, and he seems to be throwing it with as much frequency as he did early in the season. The big difference in early-season Soriano and the Soriano of the last couple of months appears to be the location on his fastball. Early on, he was painting the black low and away, and it just seems like all those fastballs are right down the middle now.
The only thing Joe will be talking about tonight is the home run record.
Stu, I think Soriano also has a changeup, that he uses once in a blue moon. He struck someone out with it last time he pitched. Looks like he doesn’t have confidence in it.
I dont see how he could be a useful starter either, esp. if he only has confidence in a fastball
bobby says the balls are flying out tonight so get ready for double digits.
bobby says the balls are flying out tonight so get ready for double digits.
sorry for the double post
Good thing we’re starting Prado.
that was close.
Sweet start!
Wow is nobody watching tonight? Awesome start!
You gotta be patient against Moyer, can’t give yourselves up on slow crap.
Andruw STILL sucks.
Allright, let’s hope for a decent night by Buddy, and lots of innings.
I love it when Jon Miller says something and, to me, it’s obvious that he’s trying to set up Joe for easy color commentary and Joe just sits there quietly.
Good backup there Yunel. Come on now.
Prado should have got that, damn
See #20.
But yes, Prado was at fault.
This game better not start like the 5-4 game did.
Carlyle is terrible tonight. Think Moylan can go 7?
Cox looks for reasons not to play Kelly Johnson, huh? With Johnson’s platoon partner playing shortstop now, Cox went and got Prado called up just so he can keep it going. Sheesh.
Is this crap actually happening?
Hell yes Francoeur! That could have been a LOT worse.
(and holy crap Burrell is slow)
I do love having that man in RF.
Way to bounce back, Buddy.
joshtothemaxx,
According to Joe Morgan a few minutes ago, “Burrell can really run.”
I think the most dramatic thing Frenchy has improved since last year is the accuracy of his throws. He’s always had a cannon, but it seems like he’s putting it right on target every time now.
All that and only one run, not too bad. Now the offense needs to keep the pressure on.
Buddy was burning them in there at 91-93 mph. Seems high for him.
Frenchy arm ain’t so bad either.
mraver,
That one wasn’t all that accurate. Burrell is just ridiculously slow.
BTW, even my wife (who knows nothing about baseball) asked me what was wrong with the announcers, then added that “they are f—ing obnoxious.”
How the heck is Burrell running on that play, and still get throw out on an inaccurate throw by a mile? With that said, Jeff Francouer has an absolute cannon. I wonder if he has a shot at a Gold Glove this year…
That’s hilarious. Like, every post.
If they ever decide to make The Jamie Moyer Story, Chris Cooper (American Beauty, Adaptation, Breach) could play the part.
I bet I can throw faster than jamie Moyer…
Joe Morgan is “a big believer in starting pitching helping you win ballgames.”
Joe Morgan: “I’ve always said starting pitching is the most important thing for a rotation.”
“I’ve always felt starting pitching is the most important part of a rotation.” – JM
Unlike Joe, I’m from that camp that believes that base running is the most important thing for a starting rotation…
[/sarcasm]
Joe is so ridiculous is actually entertaining, that may be why he still has a job.
Did he really say that?
yes, he literally said that.
Allright, leadoff walk, let’s get some breathing room.
I can’t get over how slow Moyer is throwing tonight.
His high that I’ve seen is 82 mph.
Morgan just said that the McGriff acquisition in 1993 gave the two-time defending National League champions “the confidence to be a winning ballclub”. Sheesh.
…or hit into a double play
JS Jr. is gone. From Bowman:
Braves general manager John Schuerholz’s son, Jonathan, opted to end his professional baseball career on Friday and set his sights on completing his business degree at Auburn University.
Jonathan, who was selected in the eighth round of the 2002 First-Year Player Draft, hit just .223 during his six-season Minor League career. But he was always known as a popular teammate who displayed the type of personality that may one day allow him to follow his father’s successful footsteps.
The younger Schuerholz certainly left the game with a few lasting memories. In his final nine games with Triple-A Richmond, he hit .280 (7-for-25) with three homers — the only three he hit in 152 at-bats this year.
Joe just said that the McGriff trade turned the franchise around. The Braves were the two time defending National League champions at the time…
Awe, Mac beat me to it!
Morgan just said that McGriff’s arrival in 93 changed the Braves for the next decade. McGriff was a Brave ’till ’97
And that he gave them the confidence to be a winning ballclub. Because yeah, it’s not like they were in the World Series the previous 2 years.
This is August 12. The Braves are on TBS three more times this month. There is something wrong with that.
“The Braves are on TBS three more times this month. There is something wrong with that.”
If you said that in April, I’d have agreed. But now I like non-TBS games, or any game that doesn’t involve Chip Caray.
Yeah, but I can’t watch anything except those on TBS (and ESPN).
Oh poor Mac, no more “Lil’ Johnny” jokes.
Francoeur again!
Frenchy!
Note to Phillies:
Jeff Francoeur has a good arm.
Frenchy!!
I’ve said it when he was struggling last year, and I’m saying it now when he’s improving on a daily basis..
Jeff is going to win a MVP before it’s all said and done.
It’s Moyer, just fire it down the middle.
Thank you…and I think Buddy owes Francouer a coke after the game.
Dane Cook delenda est.
haha
Phillies note to self : “Don’t run on Frenchy.”
Did everybody leave?
Carlyle seems to have lost his control.
No.
Think Moylan can go 5?
Buddy, please don’t necessitate a Kali appearance.
Csrlyle has got to get it done…Kali is warming up….
wtf.
BOBBY!
I called it as it happened…he missed the base.
Come on, get ejected.
Unfortunately, it was a good call by the umps.
yeaaaah he missed it. ticky tack call though. usually the ump gives it to ya.
this is one of those breaks where carlyle gives up a 3 run bomb, hate to say it, but its scary
That hurt.
and by the way, how do people not kill jamie moyers meatballs?!
This probably won’t end well.
Well this inning is about to get ugly.
Moyer is the type of pitcher the Braves have trouble with…
That would have broke the tie with McGraw for ejections if I’m not mistaken.
Should the Braves just concede the game now?
Hey, one out.
Big pitch there. We need several more…
This is the one that scares me.
Burrell did what we expect from him.
Buddy has lived on the edge all night. Probably time for midnight to strike.
lame.
And there it is.
Sad. A citizens bank pop up turned HR.
Who called it?
How predictable.
F***.
i hate to say it, but i saw that one coming
And everyone saw that one coming.
That phantom double play is really going to haunt us.
We really need this game, guys.
That sucks…and 2 runs off Moyer will be harder than it should be….
And it’s not like we can hit Jamie Moyer…
Yuck
this makes me sick, we cant get innings out of anyone but smoltz/hudson. We cant get a hit off Jamie Moyer, who throws 80 miles an hour.
This is a game we have to win.
SOrry im sitting here seething about this one
If we win this game, we’ve made up nice ground. If we lose it we’re treading water.
We keep finding these really creative ways to lose games. Burrell’s pop up should have ended the inning, and Buddy would have been out to pitch the 6th. Yet we miss the bag on a DP, fail to even get an out and then Howard does what he gets paid to do.
Dammit. Ryan Howard ain’t no short people.
He’s a bad, bad man. Wow.
He may be my favorite non-Brave, but I wish he could have saved that one for the next series. The non-double play just killed us.
Let’s get it back.
Its gets worse: Kali is coming into the game
How many career homeruns would Ryan Howard have if he played in Petco Park?
If we can chase Moyer I like our bullpen vs. their’s
I think Chipper is gonna come through here.
Ill go out on a limb and say Andruw is gonna come alive! He is gonna have a key at bat, one way or the other
I think the question should be how many would he have if the Phills didn’t get Thome
I hope you are right–but the Braves have trouble against Moyer…
Gosh, it’s only 2 runs.
Oliver Perez and Jamie Moyer must have something in common — besides general mediocrity. Aside from last Tuesday night, they’re bloody kryptonite to this lineup.
Come on Andruw.
Ok, njbravesfan, I hope you’re right about Andruw.
Howard hit a 3-run bomb. Can ‘Druw??
here it is, AJ its his clutch at bat of the season! He can come n big time here!
Good Lord, Andruw, quit trying to force it.
If Andruw sees anything but low outside offspeed slop in this at bat Moyer should be shot.
Sure am glad McCann is batting below Andruw Jones….
Andruw 3 K’s. Bobby…you’re killing us. Absolutely killing us.
Andruw is absolutely killing this team.
OK HE SUCKS! im sick of Andruw, Im sick of him striking out, or grounding into double plays, he needs to go, i dont care who they put in for him. I can count numerous times in the last two weeks where he hasnt come through in the clutch, he is terrible, UGH I HATE HIM SO MUCH
Damn! 25 pitches and Moyer still gets us out…
Moyer had a pitch go 70! we get 2 runs off him, this is disgusting, JC Romero/Tom Gordon/Brett Meyers, game over
Andruw Jones = wildly PREDICTABLE.
And I am damn sick of him too.
Can Scott Boras really still get 100 million for this?
Boras must be freaking out with all the money Andruw is costing him.
yes, 100 million for 25 years.
I’ve changed positions over the last few weeks. Andruw can barely swing the bat, and instead of DL’ing him, Bobby bats him 6th, ahead of McCann.
I know there are Cox apologists out there, but I’m telling you, crap like this is going to cost us the division.
If there is a saying “There’s a sucker born every minute” en Boras might find one person to give him that money.
Thanks OneEye for making this a bit easier to bare….
some idiotic team will throw money at him cause the demand is there, and he will have a better season next year.
He should NOT be in the lineup, he hasnt produced a damn thing. He hasnt hit, he hasnt hit for power, he hasnt driven in runs, he hasnt come in in the clutch, I hope the MRI says he has a tear or something, so that at least there is a reason. He needs to FN GO, im so sick of watching this crap
Where is this Tyler Yates when the Braves have a small lead?
Even if it shows a tear, I can see Bobby keeping him in. We had to get freaking Mark Teixeira to get Bobby to move him out of the CLEANUP spot.
he did well tonight!he is overworked he gets run out every night
Shades of 2006: Kali is pitching well now that the Braves are behind….
disgruntled, you are absolutley right, if we didnt get tex, he would be batting cleanup, thank god for him and francoeur, otherwise chipper would be hitting for nothing, we need to someone get one more pitcher, even steve trachsel, and i would take anyone in CF, I would take Kenny Lofton over this slop that Andruw plays, he is terrible injury or no injury
njbravesfan,
I couldn’t agree more. I agree with everything you said.
I hate Jamie Moyer.. I really really do.
Teams that do what the Braves believe they can do — win the National League — find ways to win games like this. C’mon, guys.
On cue…Mc Cann get a hit. Sigh
And McCann with a hit, which would have scored a run last inning.
Even if you take the names out of play, why would you bat a guy hitting .210 and striking out 3 times a game for a guy batting .280 who makes consistent contact?
That doesn’t even remotely make sense.
I hate MOyer too, because, he throws SLOP, Its good, but it looks so terrible, how can pro hitters not nail it? Why is Prado in, I dont care the splits or the lefty righty platoon thing, KJ is a great hitter, with a good eye, and he sits for PRADO?!
I sit here, and Im a coach, in football, so i try not to second guess coaches in their decisions as they have a reason why, but bobby cox baffles me. These platoons, I think Matt Diaz is good enough to play everyday at this point. I think KJ is good enough to play, and at the very least Platoon with someone like Escobar.
I think running out the same 2 arms everyday kill them, I think keeping Andruw in there and showing blind faith as your team flails int eh wind is irresponsible, if they dont make the playoffs, you can look no further than Bobby Cox
What happened? The Braves have another run and someone is on second base.
F— ESPN.
Holy hell, ESPN sucks ass.
So they talk about damn Barry Bonds while the Braves score a run. neat. I love espn.
is bobby playing AJ to get a hometown discount on the next contract (showing him loyalty)?
Paying more bloody attention to something that happened five nights ago than the game in front of their faces. Reason No. 189 why I despise the so-called Worldwide Leader.
Thats about as good of an at bat as chris woodward can have
Nice job there by Braves bottom feeders Prado and Woodward.
C’mon Yunel, gotta get that runner in.
Well, at least it was a nice surprise. ESPN could have come back and said Prado hit into a double play.
apparently Prado hit a double to score McCann and got his first ML RBI.
No, he’s playing him b/c he’s loyal and thinks its 2001. His eternal optimism and feeling that tomorrow will be the magical day it all comes together is the reason he ran Chris Reitsma out there 40 times last year, and why he’s doing it this year with Andruw.
You guys are right, ESPN sucks, ALthough, if they really wanted to suck they can take chip caray on their program with JohN Miller and JOe Morgan, now THAT would be something.
Im so confused by what they are doing.
I hope Yunel brings him in here!
Ok, hypothetical, you gotta get one out, Do you take Chris Reitsma, Dan Kolb or Mark Redman?
How many times has Bobby’s loyalty proved beneficial? We all know he’s loyal to a fault with these guys … it’s hard for me to find the times when it came up aces for us, at least in the last six or seven years.
168, given those options, I take a cyanide pill.
“Hello, it’s Jon Miller, Joe Morgan and Chip Caray here on Sunday night baseball.”
njbravesfan… I’ll take death.
Uhh, I guess Kolb, just for the “bolg” enteries.
@ 168
Out of Rietsma, Kolb or Redman, I would choose Walter Johnson’s corpse to get that one out.
I would take redman, get it over faster!
Alfonseca SUCKS we better get to him
Well that hurt.
damn
Oh come on Escobar.
If Diaz comes through here, he should start the next 100 games with Willie in center for at least a few of those.
Yunel is having a rough game.
And the Phils’ retirement-home bullpen slays us again.
i wish william wallace rode out to the mound and impaled alfonseca
We have got to get a run off Alfonsucka…
“hes excited and showing it” SOunds like a Tina Turner Song
Again, Braves fail with a runner on third and less than two outs to score.
Unreal.
I hate that damn octopus.
I hate Alfonseca.
Pathetic situational hitting, as usual.
Alfonseca just had a seizure on the mound and Joe Morgan said “I love it, haha!”
Base12 got all spastic there at the end, didn’t he?
Okay, I have to go to bed soon. You know what that means — morning recap! Hooray!
Does this make everyone sick or just me? And how much worse is it when you hear those two nimrods celebrating it.
I HATE EVERYTHING about Philly, the Phillies, tehEagles, the FLyers, everything. ITs a terrible city.
That’s the best Alfonseca has ever looked. He had great movement on that fastball. He made the otherwise lobotomized Charlie Manuel look pretty smart there.
Joe Morgan is predictably happy with Alfonsucka…
Wow.
Runner on third, less than two outs. Ground ball almost anywhere. Medium fly ball. JUST MAKE CONTACT!
El freakin Pulpo throws the same pitch in the same spot three times and Diaz can’t even sniff it. My goodness…
In Diaz’s defense, that would be the first time in like two weeks that he /hasn’t/ come through for the Braves in situations like that.
Maybe ANdruw saves the day in the end?
Whats more likely to happen, Brett Meyers walks teh bases loaded and Balk in two runs, or AJ hit the game winning drive?
Yeah
I was in Philly last night for a wrestling event… that was pretty damn good.
The Phillies bullpen kinda sucks. This game’s not over.
In Escobar and Diaz defense, base 12 was pretty filthy out there tonight. His fastball had late movement down and in, and was about 94.
philly = worst. city. and. people. ever.
Breaking radio silence to say that any trivia question where the answers are three Hall of Famers and Bob Forsch, you can be pretty sure that the answer is Bob Forsch. ESPN thinks we’re stupid.
Great Moylan. Give the run right fucking back.
Gee, it’s not hard to tell who Jon Miller’s pulling for.
The only reason I hate seeing the Braves play the Phillies is because of Jimmy Rollins.
Come on Moylan, we all love you in here. Don’t let us down…
over
This game sucks. Everything about it. The announcers, the annoying home crowd, my intense negativity. Everything. Yet I keep watching.
Thanks Jon Miller. Why do you hate us?
Hey guys, can we keep Rollins off the bases? Bad things happen when you let him on.
And walk Howard, no matter what. Please.
#202
There are many worse cities with worse assholes. Boston and New York come to mind. I like Philly.
when rollins hit that he goes, “he heads for first” well no sh*t where was he gonna go? right for third?
Moylan has to be tired, he is bound to let us down once in a while
game over
Haha. That was pretty comical.
Oh well… that would have been too sweet for Frenchy to have three assists in one game…
Goodbye run the Braves just got. Could have used that other run the Braves should have got.
Miller’s not hiding it tonight is he…
I like all the cynical people joining me tonight. It’s nice to have support in my disdain these days.
well when you run our best arm into the ground pitching him every single night 1-2-3 innings at a time, just destroying him, my god! Everything you do as a coach effects you both in the present and in the future, yet bobby thinks in teh past only
I’m on a business trip in San Francisco. I could be down on Fisherman’s Wharf right now, gorging on seafood with some friends. Instead I’m here in my hotel room, watching a game and broadcast in which every aspect seems intent on inflaming my sensibilities. Why do I do this to myself?
Moylan’s frisbee-ball is nasty nasty nasty.
But… oh my goodness… Francoeur can freaking throw. That was like that one Vlad throw when he was in the right field corner at Olympic Stadium and he nails a runner at the plate on the fly. Too bad Jeff was at medium depth.
Oh, and Pat Burrell got done what you couldn’t, Escobar and Diaz. Good job.
219-disgruntled…. Your right, im usually very very positive, but its frustrating becasue i see what we can do, i see that we can be a great team. But we do dumb things like this.
IF we dont do it here in teh 8th game over
The Phillies seem like they’d be pretty worthless with Rollins.
*without Rollins
Give Francoeur credit for keeping us in this thing.
Can we please stop this “Kenny Lofton Getting Traded to Every Team in the Western Hemisphere” DHL commercial? He was traded almost three weeks ago.
228-Everything is more annoying when we are losing! If we were winning that commercial would be getting an emmy in my opinion haha, its like when we are winning on a friday night and the cheerleaders are singing and the band is playing its great, and when we are losing i could kill them all!
Chipper, why?
We’re due for a 9th inning come from behind looks like we have no chance win. Ofcourse it won’t an 8th inning come from behind win because we swing at the first pitch too much!
Way to work the count guys.
Charlie Manuel makes no sense to me.
Yeah, Andruw – McCann – Prado doesnt make me excited. mac is great, but AJ-Prado are 2 outs, then you bring in Thor, game over, that is of course the braves bp dont give up more in teh bottom of 8?
Frenchie is dumber than the last dump I took.
And that thing could talk.
Andruw….McCann….?Johnson?
Against Myers? Not likely.
Another great inning in the annals of Braves baseball….
Chipper and Tex, out in 2 pitches, Francoeur looks Andruw-esque in striking out. These guys look ready to hit the plane home.
im sitting here sick to my stomach, we better go on a run, cause we are in third place!
Let’s focus on the positives.
Football starts in 3 weeks, and this nightmare won’t matter anymore.
Hard to be a nightmare when the Braves are going to be just 3.5 games back.
Positive: Acosta looks excellent through 2 batters.
I love how Miller says: “ANDRUW JONES IS COMING UP!” like it’s suppose to excite Braves’ fans.
Acosta looked impressive. I still don’t like the high walk totals but he’s got good stuff.
Yeah, they’ve been 3.5 back for 3 months.
Accosta looks great–good thing we have kept him hidden at AAA…
oh great baseball god’s help us…we beg you to drag our team (kicking and screaming) to victory. we gladly give you the blood sacrifice of pete orr, our manager’s most prized lamb.
#243 – Andruw will probably hit a HR in this spot and we’ll lose 5-4. That’s just the way he operates.
This team just isn’t built to go on a winning streak. We can win 2 in a row every week when Smoltz/Hudson start, but how can we win 10/12 or 15/20 when Chuck James, Cormier and Carlyle start 60% of our games?
So what? Doesn’t matter who holds first place the longest. Ask the 2006 Detroit Tigers.
Dan–it probably excites Phillies fans….
Andruw Jones didn’t strike out!
way to go druw
Joe was just making up those pitch names. He had no clue what they were outside of “fastball”.
Tonight notwithstanding, I’m glad that the Phillies have put Brett Myers in their bullpen. What a waste.
McCann rolls over another outside pitch. Getting pretty tired of that shit.
Willie Harris? Oh Bobby….
Joe Miller, get a room.
#349 – that is the whole key right there. The offense is periodically going to be shut down by a good pitcher, but the general mediocrity of 3-5, and the effect they have on the bullpen by never pitching deep into the games, is killing this team and never letting it get on a roll of any kind. Every time we all get excited we turn around and lose a series or lose 2/3 or 3/4.
We are most likely going to lose 2/3 this weekend to the Phillies. Lookintg at our pitchers for the weekend, did we really expect much more?
Jon
another night, another sucky loss–what a frustrating season
bring on the clowns!
lame. times 2.
Exactly. We win 2/3 in NY b/c of Smoltz/Hudson. We’ll win 2/3 next week against the Giants too for the same reason. But the next series we’ll lose 2/3, meaning we’re perpetually a .500 team.
Well that game sucked.
Back to third place. Back to 3.5 games out. Always one step forward and another step back with this team.
Another dispiriting loss: I am beginning to think that Mac should reinstate the Miserable Braves Loss Type Index from 2006.
Yes and that is why the Teixeria trade hardly seems to matter; we may yet remember it for what it cost us. The Braves are playing the same way they played in June and July….
We lost tonight because of a fluky call. But generally, ya’ll may be right.
Would anyone have taken a 3-3 road trip at this point last week? I guess the good news is the Braves had a shot to win every game on the trip. The bad news is they only went 3-3.
Gotta sweep the Giants and get on a roll here.
No, I wouldn’t have taken 3-3. That’s .500. We’re running out of time and cannot keep screwing around .500.
We didn’t lose because of a call. We lost because the offense got shut down by Jamie fucking Moyer for the better part of 7 innings.
…and we started Buddy Carlyle, and our manager bat a guy hitting .210 who can’t swing 6th, and we started a AAA callup who made a game-changing error instead of a guy hitting .300 who plays good defense.
Bobby does know Spring Training is over, right?
With all the optimism about Carlyle and the talk of taking 4/6 on the road, I really expected a letdown like this if we lost – at least from the the Braves Journal chat. I’ll have to admit that I’m bummed out too.
For all of Cox’s strategy blunders, I have to give him major kudos for one thing. He rarely lets the team get too high or too low and even after disappointing losses, we usually come back and play fairly well. I expect the same in San Fran, but will be very surprised by a sweep. I think Cox and our veteran leaders won’t allow us to panic, and we’ll be okay. We’re still only a few wins away from leading the wildcard.
My how our expectations have been lowered. Now we get excited when we’re only a few wins away from competing for the wild card.
This isn’t the Braves I grew up with.
“we started a AAA callup who made a game-changing error”
his error didnt cost us the game, however, with Escobar being lazy and not getting to the bag early enough did. Hey Escobar you cant expect to get the calls if you dont make the play!!!! Touch the freakin bag….
Ehh. A win would’ve been nice. Another runner at 3rd w/o two outs that got stranded….
I don’t blame the pitching at all.
Still, took 2/3 from the Mets, and we’ll have to Phils back in ATL soon enough. Not an awful roadtrip, but not ideal either.
At least we picked up a game on this road trip, even if we did get bumped to 3rd place.
Gotta reach for something.
The offense gets off to a good start…and our damn starting pitchers give it right back…looks like it just deflates the offense.
Buddy got lucky in the Mets game, but was horrible is this game…his last 2 starts have been pedestrian at best.
Andruw Jones is killing us…
We needed Edgar against a pitcher like Moyer…someone who knows how to hit.
Rollins and Reyes proved what speed will do in the leadoff spot. I hate both of them.
Escobar…showed your youth tonite.
That’s right, forgot about Escobar (another AAA callup–or was it AA?) on that play.
Escobar is slowly coming back to earth. He was 5-24 (.208) with 1 BB on the road trip.
Like others have said before, if he doesn’t hit .300 he’s a pretty bad offensive player. Poor walk skills, no speed, no power.
He won a game for us last week, so I’ll give him a little while. He should be in AAA, but whatever. So should a lot of our players.
After watching Rollins, Reyes and thinking about Ramirez….I’m thinking do we have a SS in our system with speed, power and can hit for average like those 3?
I mean damn they are game changers…
Jeremy he is facing righthanders for the first in a while in that 5-24 stretch so I might give him some slack. I notice him trying to pull the ball also in this series…which is not his game.
Fucking Jamie Moyer…when we lose, out losses are just crushing.
If we make to the playoffs and these are the type of losses we can expect, then nevermind.
Also, keep in mind he’s a backup. If Renteria’s healthy, theoretically he should back him up.
Course you know Bobby and his damn platoons.
#283, well Brent Lillibridge definitely has the speed and power part. He likely won’t hit for a .300 average but it appears from his minor league numbers that he will take a walk and OBP is more important than AVG so….
from DOB in the AJC:
“Escobar’s throwing error let in the winning run for the Phillies in Friday’s series opener. Asked if it had been a rough series, the Cuban rookie said nothing but nodded in the affirmative.
The play Sunday was a difficult one made more so by confusion between Escobar and rookie second baseman Martin Prado, who got a rare start.”
First, this is what Bobby gets for once again sitting Kelly Johnson. He needs to be our everyday second baseman.
If Bobby wants to experiment by starting a scrub like Prado, do it against the Giants or use him late when we have a lead. I just will never understand Cox and hwat the hell he’s thinking?
Yes, Escobar deserves a lion’s share of the blame here and his throwing errors royally screwed the Braves in both Phils’ games (blowing the theory out of the water that his defense is so much better than Edgar’s) but based on what DOB said, if Escobar was in there with the Braves regular 2nd baseman, KJ, there’s NO confusion.
Also, there are 44 Games left in the season.
Besides the fact that it’s time to stop experimenting (Cox) and play your best players, the Braves have to put together some type of extended winning streak already.
I hate the Phillies. Hate them.
@274. The Braves I grew up with were perenially in last place – except for one year in the mid 80s. I’ll take this group of Braves any day.
I don’t think that looking on the bright side and not panicing is lowering expectations. My expectations are still for the Braves to have a chance to win the WS by getting into the playoffs. If they win the wildcard to do it, I’m fine with that. I’ll admit that my expectations have been lowered. I don’t expect the Braves to win 14 more division titles in a row. I don’t know if any team will ever do that again.