Horacio is pitching much more aggresively than he used to. He used to be scared to death to trust his stuff and nibbled more than any pitcher I’ve ever seen.
kc
on June 1, 2006 at 7:06 pm
Yeah, he seems to have more confidence in himself.
kc
on June 1, 2006 at 7:10 pm
Tonight will be a very short night if the Braves keep swinging the bat like they just did…
Rob Cope
on June 1, 2006 at 7:24 pm
I really think Adam LaRoche could be a great (yeah, I said it: great) hitter if he would just shorten up his swing. He wouldn’t lose any power, and he’ll become much tougher to strike out.
I don’t know how long this will last, but I like the New Horacio.
Rob Cope
on June 1, 2006 at 7:29 pm
Ramirez is a really good fielder. He’s like a cat!
Chief Nocahoma
on June 1, 2006 at 7:32 pm
Mac,
Horacio looks like an alien inhabited his body. Totally different. Not afraid to throw strikes. Hitting 92 with ease.
kc
on June 1, 2006 at 7:33 pm
Simplied the delivery, take that “cutter” away from him, and give him a new pitching coach…boy, the kid needs a lot of maintenance. Nevertheless, I really like what I see from HoRam as well.
kc
on June 1, 2006 at 7:40 pm
Where is the love for Adam?! Boy, do I miss McCann in that fifth hole…
Piers
on June 1, 2006 at 7:40 pm
Somehow I knew that was coming…
Rob Cope
on June 1, 2006 at 7:42 pm
It’s not Adam’s fault the lineup stinks and he has to hit 5th. I say you put Francouer 5th for now.
kc
on June 1, 2006 at 7:44 pm
Well, Rob, it’s Adam’s fault that his swing is too damn long.
Rob Cope
on June 1, 2006 at 7:50 pm
Well, kc, long swing or not, he benefits the team as a power hitting 7th or 8th hitter. It’s not his fault we don’t have an adequate 5 hole hitter or a manager that isn’t adament about having a lefty-righty switch-off in the batting order.
It’s been about 94 innings since ‘Zona have scored a run.. they must be hoping that Reitsma gets in at some point
Rob Cope
on June 1, 2006 at 7:53 pm
I’m not saying he’s a great hitter now who should be batting 5th, but he’s 4th on the team in OPS, 3rd in homers, and tied for 3rd on the team in walks. He’s not killing the team by any stretch of the imagination. Now, Francouer, Giles, and Langerhans on the other hand…
JoeyT
on June 1, 2006 at 7:55 pm
Huh? It’s a platoon advantage. If Francoeur played against just lefties, he’d have a .952 OPS.
Rob Cope
on June 1, 2006 at 7:57 pm
How many times do we face lefties? Platoon advantage or not, he’s still 5th on the team in ABs and Jordan’s only had 33 ABs against lefties.
Rob Cope
on June 1, 2006 at 7:58 pm
And Francouer has that .952 OPS in 49 ABs against lefties. Two words: sample size.
Don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying LaRoche should be hitting where he’s hitting right now, but it’s not his fauly he’s there and he’s not killing the team offensively.
Rob Cope
on June 1, 2006 at 8:29 pm
Cruz really reminds me of a mini-Pedro. Did you see him pump his fist when Francouer flied out?
Smitty
on June 1, 2006 at 8:30 pm
We were 1/8th of an inch twice from having Francoeur and Chipper go yard. Both of them just missed
A hard hit ball went off Ramirez’s glove, Giles knocked it down, flipped it to Renteria whose body was carrying him towards right field, he spins and fires to first and gets the double play.
Rob Cope
on June 1, 2006 at 8:46 pm
Ramirez is at 100 pitches. Let’ see how this goes…
Lead-off walk, uh oh..
Rob Cope
on June 1, 2006 at 8:47 pm
So much for Ramirez’s good defense…
kc
on June 1, 2006 at 8:47 pm
Great decision Bobby. You are the only one on earth who thinks HoRam can pitch another inning.
This is where Bobby & I differ. Stick with your BETTER pitcher, McBride. Paronto is a mistake. I hope I am wrong but my feeling is that I am not.
kc
on June 1, 2006 at 8:56 pm
Now, Bobby is really using Paronto like Gryboski…
Jeremy
on June 1, 2006 at 8:57 pm
paronto? wait, what??? bobby is certifiable.
Nick H.
on June 1, 2006 at 8:57 pm
Wouldn’t it be smarter to bring in Ray, rather than Paronto, with bases loaded and 1 out? I know Paronto is a decent strikeout pitcher, but still, in a very high-leverage situation, I’d like to see our best reliever out there…
Remy
on June 1, 2006 at 8:58 pm
Bobby must be thinking extra innings.
kc
on June 1, 2006 at 8:58 pm
Bobby is Bobby, he can’t resist the oppurtunity to use Gryboski in this situation…oh wait…that person is Paronto now…the “groundball specialist”…
Stephen
on June 1, 2006 at 8:59 pm
Apparently Bobby sees great parallels between Paronto and Gryboski…
Just further proof to everyone on BravesJournal that Bobby NEVER EVER reads a friggin stat sheet.
steel211
on June 1, 2006 at 9:07 pm
Nice job bobby.
kc
on June 1, 2006 at 9:07 pm
After watching the same shit for the past 15 years, I still hate the f*cking way Bobby uses the bullpen.
Chief Nocahoma
on June 1, 2006 at 9:08 pm
The only criticism I have of Bobby is that he never seems to go on his ‘gut’, IOW, he never just says, ‘He got the first two, I’ll stick with him. He’s almost too platoony and situational. I think that’s why we win alot of games over the long haul, because if you only manage by the ‘book’ you’ll win a lot of games, but in a case by case basis, sometimes it doesn’t warrant it.
JoeyT
on June 1, 2006 at 9:08 pm
Remlinger should come with a warning label: “To Be Used As Right Handed Pitcher Only”
Stephen
on June 1, 2006 at 9:09 pm
It is all very impressive–we use 4 pitchers, Arizona gets 1 hit and 2 runs.
kc
on June 1, 2006 at 9:09 pm
Forget that Joey, just take Remmy out of Bobby’s hand. Otherwise, history will repeat itself again and again.
Dix
on June 1, 2006 at 9:10 pm
we need to get our guys some needles…. how many balls to the warning track today?
Jeremy
on June 1, 2006 at 9:10 pm
this loss is on bobby.
horacio gets a lucky double play to get out of the 7th.. bobby inexpilcably brings him out for the 8th. leaves him in after he walks the leadoff guy. brings in remlinger to get out a lefty even though remlinger doesn’t get out lefties.
goddamn pathetic.
JoeyT
on June 1, 2006 at 9:10 pm
Maybe Bobby should only be allowed to look at Remlinger in a mirror.
Chief Nocahoma
on June 1, 2006 at 9:10 pm
kc,
That post is just gross. Sophmoric humor LOL.
Brian J.
on June 1, 2006 at 9:11 pm
There’s an idea… what warning labels should our other pitchers carry?
Paronto- Do not subject to heat or pressure
Villareal- Contents highly unstable
Cormier- (nod to Gregg Easterbrook) May contain baseball-like substance
Reitsma- Toxic waste
kc
on June 1, 2006 at 9:11 pm
You are such a cool joker Joey.
Remy
on June 1, 2006 at 9:14 pm
Tip your hat to Green, who hit the ball to the opposite field and beat the defense. Horacio wouldn’t have put himself in a position to lose the game if he hadn’t panicked and thrown the ball away.
kc
on June 1, 2006 at 9:15 pm
Chipper’s swing has been looking very slow to me recently for some reason…
drewdat
on June 1, 2006 at 9:16 pm
Maybe, I dunno… the offense deserves some blame in this one so far? 0 runs is tough to win with.
kc
on June 1, 2006 at 9:17 pm
Remy, Bobby shouldn’t keep HoRam in the game. That’s the whole problem. He got lucky to get out of the seventh, it was obvious that he was tired. Of course, Bobby has different idea.
kc
on June 1, 2006 at 9:18 pm
Oh, the whole offense has to be blamed of course, but I am just saying I think there is something wrong with Chipper.
Landogarner
on June 1, 2006 at 9:18 pm
Rietsma…… Bobby is a freaking masochist!
Stephen
on June 1, 2006 at 9:19 pm
The danger here is that Reitsma will pitch will enough to allow Bobby to believe that he is `about to turn the corner’, thereby encouraging Cox to use him in a Save situation.
Brian J.
on June 1, 2006 at 9:19 pm
Don’t you mean sadist? He’s not hurting himself…
drewdat
on June 1, 2006 at 9:19 pm
FWIW, I agree HoRam should have been taken out, but it’s not like he got hit hard there. So Bobby and HoRam deserve blame too, as much blame as remains after not scoring a run in 8 innings.
Ah…Reitsma’s in to add some insurance for ‘Zona’s closer
Chief Nocahoma
on June 1, 2006 at 9:20 pm
Chipper looks really ‘old’ lately. His skills seem to be eroding to a poor defensive singles hitter. Seems to have lost alot of power, hopefully because of nagging injuries. Emphasis on hopefully.
kc
on June 1, 2006 at 9:21 pm
ok, this performance will buy the Braves at least three more blown save.
Landogarner
on June 1, 2006 at 9:22 pm
Brian, no I meant masochist.
Stephen
on June 1, 2006 at 9:22 pm
HoRam is hardly to blame. Arizona comes in flat (after a 13 inning game in which they did not score) and the Braves cannot score–despite several solid opportunities. Losing tonight will be a team effort…
drewdat
on June 1, 2006 at 9:22 pm
A double and a HR in two games for Chipper, so the results aren’t so bad; that said, I haven’t paid much attention to the swing, so it may be bad.
Offense needs to show up right here. It’s not Juan Cruz anymore…
Landogarner
on June 1, 2006 at 9:22 pm
KC, yes it will.
kc
on June 1, 2006 at 9:23 pm
Really, I don’t have the heart to blame HoRam tonight. He is a star for the Braves tonight.
Remy
on June 1, 2006 at 9:24 pm
I agree, kc, Ramirez was probably out of gas. Bobby left him in a little too long.
That would be the best way to win–and Reitsma would be the winning pitcher!
drewdat
on June 1, 2006 at 9:27 pm
HoRam is blamed in a “yeah, but” sort of manner. Of course, he pitched more than well enough to win, even with the 8th, but he Kolbed that bunt leading to the D’back runs.
kc
on June 1, 2006 at 9:27 pm
Sigh…Adam, Adam, Adam…….
Jeremy
on June 1, 2006 at 9:27 pm
c’mon jeff, hit one out
kc
on June 1, 2006 at 9:28 pm
Julio is trying to kill his catcher.
Stephen
on June 1, 2006 at 9:28 pm
Lets get some baserunners….
drewdat
on June 1, 2006 at 9:28 pm
But I agree HoRam did nothing wrong, an excellent performance.
Com’on Mac, the heat builds character : )
Here’s hoping Horacio pulls together another good outing. Thank God Webb pitched yesterday!
FOX Sports – MLB – Top 10 players who could lose their jobs
Guess who’s first!
What bothers me about the Faux article is that they want to replace our worst reliever with our second-worst reliever (Yates doesn’t count) as closer.
Shows you how much that guy knows. Or doesn’t know. Ken Ray, anyone? 🙂
Can’t expect too much from Dayn Perry.
Bruce Chen’s got mad game..
George Lombard, too.
Horacio is pitching much more aggresively than he used to. He used to be scared to death to trust his stuff and nibbled more than any pitcher I’ve ever seen.
Yeah, he seems to have more confidence in himself.
Tonight will be a very short night if the Braves keep swinging the bat like they just did…
I really think Adam LaRoche could be a great (yeah, I said it: great) hitter if he would just shorten up his swing. He wouldn’t lose any power, and he’ll become much tougher to strike out.
Is it Smoltz vs Glavine tonight?
I don’t know how long this will last, but I like the New Horacio.
Ramirez is a really good fielder. He’s like a cat!
Mac,
Horacio looks like an alien inhabited his body. Totally different. Not afraid to throw strikes. Hitting 92 with ease.
Simplied the delivery, take that “cutter” away from him, and give him a new pitching coach…boy, the kid needs a lot of maintenance. Nevertheless, I really like what I see from HoRam as well.
Where is the love for Adam?! Boy, do I miss McCann in that fifth hole…
Somehow I knew that was coming…
It’s not Adam’s fault the lineup stinks and he has to hit 5th. I say you put Francouer 5th for now.
Well, Rob, it’s Adam’s fault that his swing is too damn long.
Well, kc, long swing or not, he benefits the team as a power hitting 7th or 8th hitter. It’s not his fault we don’t have an adequate 5 hole hitter or a manager that isn’t adament about having a lefty-righty switch-off in the batting order.
It’s been about 94 innings since ‘Zona have scored a run.. they must be hoping that Reitsma gets in at some point
I’m not saying he’s a great hitter now who should be batting 5th, but he’s 4th on the team in OPS, 3rd in homers, and tied for 3rd on the team in walks. He’s not killing the team by any stretch of the imagination. Now, Francouer, Giles, and Langerhans on the other hand…
Huh? It’s a platoon advantage. If Francoeur played against just lefties, he’d have a .952 OPS.
How many times do we face lefties? Platoon advantage or not, he’s still 5th on the team in ABs and Jordan’s only had 33 ABs against lefties.
And Francouer has that .952 OPS in 49 ABs against lefties. Two words: sample size.
I am, however, very disappointed that we aren’t throwing at Byrnes.
Also, I have a bad feeling we’re about to see another *#%^$#!@% infield hit.
Marcus is going to hit a solo HR here to lead off the inning…
If he does, I owe you a coke.
No coke for you.
The Force is not with me tonight…
Isn’t it funny how every time we have a chance to score, LaRoche comes to bat? It’s almost like he’s hitting behind our best hitters or something.
..if Francoeur swings on the first pitch now..I’m going to stab myself in the kidneys..
I want to fight Cruz…
Don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying LaRoche should be hitting where he’s hitting right now, but it’s not his fauly he’s there and he’s not killing the team offensively.
Cruz really reminds me of a mini-Pedro. Did you see him pump his fist when Francouer flied out?
We were 1/8th of an inch twice from having Francoeur and Chipper go yard. Both of them just missed
…I was wondering how my day could possibly get any worse…and now Kelly Johnson gets Tommy John’s…
WOW! WHAT A PLAY!
That was such a good play I’m hesitant to point out that Renteria was waaaaaay off the bag when he got the throw.
he did what??
no way that double play was just turned
That’s an AWESOME play by Marcus!!!
So I see a 1-4-6-3 DP on Gameday – what happened exactly?
Wow…Renteria pulled some crazy sh*t there
A hard hit ball went off Ramirez’s glove, Giles knocked it down, flipped it to Renteria whose body was carrying him towards right field, he spins and fires to first and gets the double play.
Ramirez is at 100 pitches. Let’ see how this goes…
Lead-off walk, uh oh..
So much for Ramirez’s good defense…
Great decision Bobby. You are the only one on earth who thinks HoRam can pitch another inning.
the plot thickens..
Ok, Bobby, that’s what you should have done three batters ago.
Am I the only one that has a bad feeling about this..
MacK!
This is where Bobby & I differ. Stick with your BETTER pitcher, McBride. Paronto is a mistake. I hope I am wrong but my feeling is that I am not.
Now, Bobby is really using Paronto like Gryboski…
paronto? wait, what??? bobby is certifiable.
Wouldn’t it be smarter to bring in Ray, rather than Paronto, with bases loaded and 1 out? I know Paronto is a decent strikeout pitcher, but still, in a very high-leverage situation, I’d like to see our best reliever out there…
Bobby must be thinking extra innings.
Bobby is Bobby, he can’t resist the oppurtunity to use Gryboski in this situation…oh wait…that person is Paronto now…the “groundball specialist”…
Apparently Bobby sees great parallels between Paronto and Gryboski…
You’re with me Marcus…
Well, Stephen, to be honest, I can see the parallels too, which is a bad thing…
whewwwwwww. we might get out of this yet.
OK – thanks Rob.
Giles has now saved our pitchers hides, TWICE tonight. But that showed right there why Paronto was a mistake.
It’s better to be lucky then any good, I guess.
remlinger now? bloody hell bobby.
All the hard work will be wasted by Remlinger.
What are the chances that 3 Braves relievers can get the job done in one inning? Lets hope for the best….
Well, Alex, it’s the infield positioning which get this out. So, Bobby is making up his mistake in another area.
Is Bobby really setting the infield, KC?
There’s no luxury, Sutton, in having Remlinger…let’s just all hold our breaths..
Or Pat Correlas is covering Bobby’s mistake.
Probably more likely…
Remlinger’s throwing junk out there
Crap.
Remlinger has REVERSE splits, Bobby.
Geez.
Thank you Remmy.
F-ng Cox…always has to tinker. And Green KILLS US.
Dammit I hate Remlinger. This just completely, completely sucks and would be an awful game to lose now.
F-ng Remlinger.
What is there left to say…..
See, he gets out the RIGHT handed hitter.
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
Why not leave McBride in to finish the inning? He struck out the first batter for fricks sake.
Oh, noowwwwwwwwww he gets an out.
And yes…REVERSE splits.
Just further proof to everyone on BravesJournal that Bobby NEVER EVER reads a friggin stat sheet.
Nice job bobby.
After watching the same shit for the past 15 years, I still hate the f*cking way Bobby uses the bullpen.
The only criticism I have of Bobby is that he never seems to go on his ‘gut’, IOW, he never just says, ‘He got the first two, I’ll stick with him. He’s almost too platoony and situational. I think that’s why we win alot of games over the long haul, because if you only manage by the ‘book’ you’ll win a lot of games, but in a case by case basis, sometimes it doesn’t warrant it.
Remlinger should come with a warning label: “To Be Used As Right Handed Pitcher Only”
It is all very impressive–we use 4 pitchers, Arizona gets 1 hit and 2 runs.
Forget that Joey, just take Remmy out of Bobby’s hand. Otherwise, history will repeat itself again and again.
we need to get our guys some needles…. how many balls to the warning track today?
this loss is on bobby.
horacio gets a lucky double play to get out of the 7th.. bobby inexpilcably brings him out for the 8th. leaves him in after he walks the leadoff guy. brings in remlinger to get out a lefty even though remlinger doesn’t get out lefties.
goddamn pathetic.
Maybe Bobby should only be allowed to look at Remlinger in a mirror.
kc,
That post is just gross. Sophmoric humor LOL.
There’s an idea… what warning labels should our other pitchers carry?
Paronto- Do not subject to heat or pressure
Villareal- Contents highly unstable
Cormier- (nod to Gregg Easterbrook) May contain baseball-like substance
Reitsma- Toxic waste
You are such a cool joker Joey.
Tip your hat to Green, who hit the ball to the opposite field and beat the defense. Horacio wouldn’t have put himself in a position to lose the game if he hadn’t panicked and thrown the ball away.
Chipper’s swing has been looking very slow to me recently for some reason…
Maybe, I dunno… the offense deserves some blame in this one so far? 0 runs is tough to win with.
Remy, Bobby shouldn’t keep HoRam in the game. That’s the whole problem. He got lucky to get out of the seventh, it was obvious that he was tired. Of course, Bobby has different idea.
Oh, the whole offense has to be blamed of course, but I am just saying I think there is something wrong with Chipper.
Rietsma…… Bobby is a freaking masochist!
The danger here is that Reitsma will pitch will enough to allow Bobby to believe that he is `about to turn the corner’, thereby encouraging Cox to use him in a Save situation.
Don’t you mean sadist? He’s not hurting himself…
FWIW, I agree HoRam should have been taken out, but it’s not like he got hit hard there. So Bobby and HoRam deserve blame too, as much blame as remains after not scoring a run in 8 innings.
Ah…Reitsma’s in to add some insurance for ‘Zona’s closer
Chipper looks really ‘old’ lately. His skills seem to be eroding to a poor defensive singles hitter. Seems to have lost alot of power, hopefully because of nagging injuries. Emphasis on hopefully.
ok, this performance will buy the Braves at least three more blown save.
Brian, no I meant masochist.
HoRam is hardly to blame. Arizona comes in flat (after a 13 inning game in which they did not score) and the Braves cannot score–despite several solid opportunities. Losing tonight will be a team effort…
A double and a HR in two games for Chipper, so the results aren’t so bad; that said, I haven’t paid much attention to the swing, so it may be bad.
Offense needs to show up right here. It’s not Juan Cruz anymore…
KC, yes it will.
Really, I don’t have the heart to blame HoRam tonight. He is a star for the Braves tonight.
I agree, kc, Ramirez was probably out of gas. Bobby left him in a little too long.
They can touch Julio. Let’s go, Braves!
We’re right back in it!
We’re not dead yet! ANDRUW!
ok, somebody saves Bobby please.
If it’s fair..it’s gone..
nice shot, andruw.
Can’t blame Andruw either, a 3 for 4 night.
Two more runs here, and we don’t have to worry about the bullpen.
TYPICAL, TYPICAL, TYPICAL HATEABLE Adam LaRoche.
That would be the best way to win–and Reitsma would be the winning pitcher!
HoRam is blamed in a “yeah, but” sort of manner. Of course, he pitched more than well enough to win, even with the 8th, but he Kolbed that bunt leading to the D’back runs.
Sigh…Adam, Adam, Adam…….
c’mon jeff, hit one out
Julio is trying to kill his catcher.
Lets get some baserunners….
But I agree HoRam did nothing wrong, an excellent performance.
Walk here and let Wilson win it.
Betemit on deck if Langerhans can reach.
This loss sucks.
Thank you Bobby. Another “L” on you my friend.
It sucks beyond belief. I am sufficiently depressed that we could not score all night of Juan FREAKING Cruz. How ridiculous.
Sucks big time.
yep, super job as always, bobby, you senile old bag.
So…the rankings….LaRoche…Hitler…Judas….Jose Reyes…Shawn Green…Bonds…Remlinger…
If Bobby leaves MCBRIDE in, we win 1-0. Yes, I will join, gladly, the “Blame Cox” bandwagon.
He should have never gone to Paronto and Remlinger. It’s like he’s TRYING to friggin lose.
Bobby’s a bench coach for the Mets…that’s the only explanation I have…