It was just two weeks ago that the Braves broke that odd â€œstreakâ€ in which they went forever without winning two in a row. What a fun two weeks itâ€™s been. Behind a huge night for Freddie Freeman, who hit for the cycle for the second time in his career, the Hammers defeated the Marlins 11-9, sweeping the series, going 6-0 on the current road trip, and winning for the 13th time in the last 15 games. There was unnecessary and stressful drama in the bottom of the ninth, but the important thing is the newfound winning ways continue.
Freeman has now matched the career cycles total of all other Atlanta Brave put together (the only others were Albert Hall in 1987 and Mark Kotsay in 2008). When Freeman came to the plate in the sixth, he had already hit a double, triple, and single.Â So right on cue, he unloaded on a fastball down the middle and hit a drive that just cleared the center field wall.Â It was fun to see the reception he got in the dugout after that feat.Â The TV guys said that he is the first first baseman in MLB history to hit for the cycle twice. Actually, he is the first in the NL, but it’s still a big deal.
Charlie Morton went six innings, striking out nine and giving up only three hits. Old Charlieâ€™s season this year is a lot like his career: he got off to a shaky start, but the longer it goes the better he gets. Wednesday night was another dominant start. He retired the first eight Marlins before walking the pitcher on four straight (â€œThere goes the perfect game,â€ says Chip, right on cue). Charlie didnâ€™t allow a hit until the fifth, when he surrendered two runs on three singles and a HBP.
By that time, fortunately, the Braves had a five run lead, having unloaded on young Marlins starter Jesus Luzardo for four runs in the fourth. The kid has good stuffâ€”thatâ€™s why the Marlins traded Starling Marte for himâ€”but he doesnâ€™t have much of an idea where itâ€™s going. The total included back to back bases loaded walks. The Marlins have some other young hurlers who likewise donâ€™t have any command of their stuff. In the eighth the Braves scored three (!!) more runs via the bases loaded base on balls. Our Braves have developed quite a specialty in that manner of driving in runs.
Speaking of driving in runs, itâ€™s a testament to the strength of this lineup that Freeman is fifth on the team in RBIs. Ozzie (one RBI tonight), Duvall (two RBI on the night), Riley (also two on the night), and Swanson (who didnâ€™t have an RBI tonight, but is second in MLB in RBIs since the ASB) each have more than Freddie. Of course one reason Riley and Swanson have driven in so many is that Freeman is on base 40% of the time. He is leading the league in runs scored; he scored four more tonight to give him 90 on the season.
Well, the Braves were cruising, heading toward a big win, and you may be wondering how the final score ended up 11-9. A lot of folks on this blog have been clamoring to get rid of Josh Tomlin. You may get your wish. He got his usual mop up duty in the bottom of the ninth with the Braves leading 11-3. Four runs later, Snit felt the need to turn to Hancock to close it out. Many of you have also called for Will Smith to lose his job as closer. You may also get your wish. Smith promptly gave up a long two run homer, and all of a sudden it was 11-9. He then issued a walk and a single to bring the winning run to the plate. Smith managed to strike out Alex Jackson to end the game, but not before almost ruining what had been a glorious night up to that point.
But a win is a win. Off day tomorrow before a three game set in Baltimore. The Oâ€™s have lost 13 in a row. This is no time to ease up on the gas pedal.
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On this date in 1982 (August 19, the date you are likely reading this), the Braves had just lost 19 of their last 21 games, to fall from a 9 game lead on July 29 to 4 games behind on August 18. Pascual Perez was the scheduled starter against the Expos on August 19. The Braves had acquired Perez in a trade earlier in the summer, and then called him up to the big leagues at the end of July.
My wife and I were at the game that night. I knew that Perez was the scheduled starter, so I was surprised to see Phil Niekro take the mound in the top of the first, starting the game on short rest. Youâ€™ve almost certainly heard the story. Perez got lost on Atlantaâ€™s perimeter freeway, I-285, spending several hours going around and around looking for the exit to the stadium. The problem for Pascual is that Atlanta Fulton County Stadium is not adjacent to 285.
Perez arrived at the ballpark about game time, too late to start the game. No problem; the 43 year old Niekro, who didnâ€™t know he was starting until about a half hour before game time, went seven innings giving up only three hits. Unfortunately two of those hits were two run dingers. Fortunately for the Braves, they came from behind in the seventh for a 5-4 win, giving Knucksie his 11th Win. For the kids who are reading this, you may find it hard to believe that we didnâ€™t have any idea what happened to Perez until we read about it in the morning paper. Nowadays, Iâ€™d be staring at my phone and following the tweets with minute by minute updates.
(By the way, that was quite the lineup the Expos fielded that year. In addition to three HOFers–Raines, Dawson, and Carter–first baseman Al Oliver led the league with a .331 average and third baseman Tim Wallach had 28 homers and 97 RBIs.)
Anyway, August 19 was a clear turning point. The team went on to win six in a row and 13 of 15 to go back on top of the division by 2.5. There were more twists and turns in September, but the Braves won the pennant by a game on the last day. Niekro won seven games from August 19th forward, and Pascual Perez managed to get to the ballpark the rest of the way and won four games the last three weeks of the season.
But on August 19, we had no idea that game was a turning point. That can only be done in retrospect. Iâ€™d like to think that the game two weeks ago when we won two games in a row and finally broke the .500 mark was a turning point. But we will only see it that way if they keep this up and make the playoffs. Right now, I like our chances a lot.
Yeah, Iâ€™m not sure where Fun Police is, but I think that argument is over.
You seem to think the argument was over whether or not Josh Tomlin is good. It was actually over whether replacing Josh Tomlin with Kyle Muller, specifically, is a good idea. And it’s still not a good idea for the same reasons it wasn’t a good idea however many days ago.
But if Tomlin can’t eat innings, someone should replace him.
Ha ha!! Good ole I285 – he never lived that down. I was watching at home listening to Skip, Ernie and Pete. No one knew what was going on. I think they had just gotten him from Pittsburgh in a trade. I think they found out what happened by the end of the game. I will always remember Pascual for that game and the beanball game.
It was a two-part argument. You disagreed both with putting Muller in the pen, which is debatable, and with dropping Tomlin from the team, which is not.
@1 I was advocating for Bryse Wilson to replace Tomlin on the roster way before he was traded. There is no reason for him to be on this team. Any of the AAA starters would be better. He throws batting practice.
To be clear: since 2018, Josh Tomlin has thrown 236 2/3 innings, during which he has yielded 138 earned runs. That’s a 5.25 ERA. (That includes his dreadful 2018, in which he had a 6.14 ERA; his surprising 2019, with a 3.79 ERA; his mediocre 2020, at 4.76; and his dreadful 2021, at 6.85.)
We know his established level of performance. It is below replacement level. It was when I made all those comments a few days ago. It still is.
Sorry, tfloyd â€”Â your recap was absolutely wonderful. Thank goodness we still won, after all that!
You disagreed both with putting Muller in the pen, which is debatable,
I said that, if Muller could be a higher leverage reliever, I’d be fine with him replacing someone like Minter. I just don’t want to waste any starting pitching depth on Tomlin’s mop-up role. It’s just not worth it. I don’t know what’s so hard to understand.
and with dropping Tomlin from the team, which is not.
Again, if Tomlin can’t even eat garbage innings any longer, you’ll get no arguments from me.
If anyone needs me, I’ll be refreshing MLBTR and waiting for the other shoe to drop.
New solution: Santana or Chavez becomes mop-up person. Muller gets to be in meaningful innings this year.
I was advocating for Bryse Wilson to replace Tomlin on the roster way before he was traded.
Putting anybody in Tomlin’s role, for every GM to see, would make it at least somewhat harder to then trade that player for a helpful higher leverage reliever (or helpful anything).
Really, the only sort of pitcher who should be in Tomlin’s role–so long as we’re constructing a bullpen with a mop-up guy–is someone who can get through a couple innings but is basically unsalvageable trash. Bryse Wilson’s still overqualified for the job.
We know his established level of performance. It is below replacement level. It was when I made all those comments a few days ago. It still is.
That Tomlin is bad is not in question. FWIW Tomlin’s fWAR and bWAR for his time in Atlanta are both positive–not that that was ever the point of having him in his role.
Phailies are losing late. The lead may grow to 3.5.
Phillies did indeed lose again to the woeful DBack. Braves up 3.5.
Wow, that sure happened fast.
So now we take our 6 game winning streak to Baltimore who is in the middle of a 14 game losing streak. Baltimore has to win sometime, I think. Hopefully after playing Atlanta
Great photo of Ryan and coop. Awesome that you two met up and hopefully watched the game together.
Saw a few innings, Timo. School teachers get up early, it seems. Life without alarm clocks is not a hard way to go.
Great recap, t. Every new one is written by my favorite recapper, regardless of the day of the week.
I even enjoy the opinion wars, up to a point. Like Tomlin, the tussle over his worth is beginning to smell like yesterday’s fish.
I love y’all. The Hammers are winning. Enjoy the streak. Be as sweet as Ryan and I.
If you by good fortune find yourself in this panhandle paradise, Amici 30A Italian Kitchen offers culinary excellence at an affordable price. Thank you, Ryan, for suggesting it as our rendezvous point.
Thanks tfloyd, 1982 was a heck of a rollercoaster.
Johan Camargo could have done what Tomlin did last night, just sayin’.
Hereâ€™s the thing, Snit knows that AA uses run differential and expected record to evaluate him as a manager. So in blowouts, he brings in Tomlin to reduce the run differential. Itâ€™s genius. Perfect crime.
â€œ My wife, we had breakfast this morning and we had two cappuccinos delivered — and she chose the cappuccino and she handed it to me and said this is the one with a lot of hits in it. So I have to give this one up to my wife, Chelsea, because if it wasn’t for the right cappuccino pick, I wouldn’t be here talking to you guys,” Freeman said.
I love Freddie.
I even enjoy the opinion wars, up to a point. Like Tomlin, the tussle over his worth is beginning to smell like yesterdayâ€™s fish.
Hey, now, don’t kink-shame. Some Braves Journalers only post whenever bad things happen. Some Braves Journalers will take this sweep of the Marlins and start speculating over how many consecutive World Series this team can win. Some Braves Journalers want to argue about Josh Tomlin. It takes a village.
@18: thanks, gator boy.
PorquÃ© no los dos?
Meeting Coop last night set a spark off inside me again. I want this Braves Journal game to happen and if the Braves are still kicking ass when September rolls around, I’d love for it to be then. The Braves play the Marlins at home on September 11th and that is about as good of a weekend to catch a ball game as any.
Who would be interested in joining? I’d love to get confirmations.
I am in, if God so wills, Ryan.
21: Thank you, Alex.
@22 – I’m coming down for the Sept. 15/16 (Wed./Thurs.) games against Colorado. Would love to meet some Braves Journal people, but I don’t think I can do both. I know weekends are better for most.
I could make it, but I would like a seat at the edge where I could lurk and just listen to you all.
I kinda agree with both Alex and Fun Police on the Tomlin saga. You would obviously prefer to throw a useless body at useless innings. It is a tough role, though, because teams believe structure avoids injuries, and this pitcher has to just randomly get loose and go throw potentially 40-50 pitches when that may not prevent injury as well as they’d like. That’s probably why they don’t have the prospects do it. But when the player is so bad at the role as Tomlin is, then it creates an even worse problem like having to use Will Smith when you really hoped you wouldn’t. Fun Police has acknowledged this morning that if Tomlin can’t eat innings, he has to go, so I think the point is fairly moot now.
They would really have to be prioritizing the injury concern I listed if they stick with Tomlin, I would think. I would hope that they could go get a slightly less terrible former SP to do this role who might have some of the didactic ability Tomlin has. But he’s cooked.
Insert Tanner Roark.
Thanks, tfloyd. I don’t remind repeating 1982 if we can just keep the playoff story out of it.
So I looked at Tomlin’s WPA last night. It’s -.005. Why? Because he came in the bottom of the 9th, trailing by 8 (I don’t think any team has ever come back trailing by 8 in the bottom of the 9th, so the win probability is virtually 0) and left with a guy on 1st trailing by 4 with two outs (the probability of losing a game in this state is about one in 200). Your chances of winning the games are virtually unchanged at that point. Indeed, they’d probably be entirely unchanged were it not for the fact that there’s always some chance the manager will insert Will Smith.
Smith’s WPA for last night was +.005, he got back the .005 that Tomlin lost, but not before he’d raised the probability of a loss to almost 10%. blazon better not read this, but the cold hard truths of mathematics were no match for my fear of Will Smith when the probability of losing a game is 10 percent.
Insert Tanner Roark.
You know, maybe they will. But it really tells you something about Tanner Roark that they haven’t done this yet.
It would be fun, in a performance art-y kind of way, to campaign for Roark on here, in the same way that people literally, earnestly did all-caps “SIGN SHANE GREENE” posts earlier this season, which should be beneath the dignity of every living, breathing, thinking person.
@28, 30 agree on Rourke…how could he be worse? But in regard to Tomlin, Snit seems to like him because he is “gritty”, ” a competitor”, etc.
I think it has more to do with Snitker really liking what Tomlin brings to the team. Roark is putting up good numbers at AAA, which is such a catch-22 as they’re still using the juiced ball, but also, the quality of the league is a bit watered down.
I like this Fun Police fella (or gal).
Well, Snit is a lot like Creed so the picture @33 certainly does have merit
Yeah, Fun Police has been very entertaining. Curious, have you been here lurking or just stumbled upon us?
I really want to know what kink-shaming is.
Be careful what you google, coop
This is mind-blowing.
Edit: Well, I guess it’s not as mind-blowing when we’re just talking about August, especially when he gave up 5 last night.
Braves are 3rd in the NL in runs scored and 1st since the trade deadline.
Braves are 7th in the NL in ERA and and 3rd since the trade deadline.
This seems like a big development.
@38, literally and figuratively, it’s trying to make someone feel ashamed for what they’re into. A more enlightened fellow would have a live and let live philosophy, rather than guilt-tripping an RC-drinker for not liking CheerwineÂ â€” purelyÂ metaphorically speaking, of course.
@40 – It is mind blowing that he has pitched 8% of the bullpen’s innings in August.
Riley has definitely gotten better defensively, but Statcast (which I trust more than other outlets) has his Outs Above Average at -12 with 6 of those runs on balls in. My eyes back that up. He’s been really good on balls toward the 3B/SS gap, but bad coming in on the ball. And while I have no way to really prove it, it feels like he’s bettered himself on balls hit down the line when he struggled with that at the beginning of the season.
So Iâ€™ve been talking a lot about the 1964 Cardinals, a team that farted around until late July and then came on like gangbusters which, when paired with a Philadelphia collapse, garnered them an NL pennant and, eventually, a World Series win over the Yankees. (That was also the first World Series I remember watching, but thatâ€™s neither here nor there.)
Thereâ€™s another interesting historical synchronicity here. The Cardinals were 47-48 on July 25th when they went into Philadelphia and beat them 10-9, getting them to .500 for the last time that season. But the way they beat them! They led 10-2 going to the bottom of the 9th and the Phillies scored 7 in the 9th to fall one run short. It is the only game in the last 100 years in which the home team trailed by 8 going to the bottom of the ninth and lost by 1 run. (I was correct: no team has lost one of these games.) Of the 2,543 games where the home team trailed by 8 going into the ninth, there are eight others (other than last night) where the home team scored 6 to lose by 2.
So giving up a bunch of runs in a blowout but still winning appears to be yet another parallel.
Iâ€™m pretty sure JonathanF and I are the only folks here with this level of interest in the 1964 Cardinals. We are close to the same age, and the 1964 season was the first I followed on a daily basis. That Cardinals team reminds of this yearâ€™s Braves in one other respect: they were known for having the best infield in the league. In 1963 all four Cards infielders made the all star team: White, Javier, Groat, and Boyer. I remember this because I had a 1964 baseball card that commemorated this allegedly momentous achievement. In 1964 all but Javier were all stars.
Although the four Braves infielders are not all all stars, the four of them are a very strong group.
Of course those Cardinals had Bob Gibson and also Lou Brock and Curt Flood in the outfield.
@29 how far were the Braves behind in the Brooks Conrad walk off game?
@48, Braves down by 6 entering the bottom of the 9th.
@49 Thanks……seems like it was a lot more than that.
Is traveling to the park in Cobb County better traffic wise than it was when it was in Atlanta. 785 looks gnarly.
From my experience, certainly not.
@51 Thanks. I think I will be happy watching on TV. I live in a bad traffic city (Charlotte) but the Atlanta area is on another level entirely. I was hoping the Cobb county area would be better.
I have had great experiences in all of my trips going to the new stadium. I park at the red deck that is right next to the stadium and it is such an easy in and out
I haven’t had much trouble with traffic getting to the new stadium coming up I-285 from the south (Columbus), but we’ve always gone either on weekends or early to summer weeknight games to watch BP, so I haven’t had to deal with rush hour. (To be clear, there’s been heavy traffic on I-285, but it’s usually flowed pretty smoothly.)
Haven’t figured out parking yet; we always park at the Marriott and walk a ways in because it’s simple, but to get out you have to go past the stadium and traffic is bad. I’ll have to check out the red deck.
Curious, have you been here lurking or just stumbled upon us?
Both. The stumbling happened quite a long time ago, when I was a youth and Mac ran the site.
How â€˜bout them D-Backs?
I thought the Mets were choking, but it is beyond belief that the Phillies could allow themselves to get swept by the worst team in baseball coming into the series.
I would be coming from Charlotte so it looks like it would be I85 to I785. I would be staying at the Hyatt across the way. No way I would try driving to game on a game day at game time. I am too old and too tired.
Why is everyone talking about replacing Tomlin with Muller or Roark or something? Who goes out when Ian Anderson is activated? Has to be Tomlin, doesn’t it? Then either Touki, Smyly, or Ynoa slides into the middle reliever role (or we have a six-man rotation or we have a piggyback).
I am not sure there is anyone else really to put out after that. Everyone else seems to have at least some value. Even now, Chavez is the middle inning “stopper” and Santana can more than adequately mop-up any situation.
Meanwhile to paraphrase Die Hard….. The Phillies and Mets are TOAST!
I always took public transport to the games at the Ted. That was easy, especially living in Decatur along the metro line. By the time they moved to Cobb I had left Atlanta. But when I came back to visit, I tried to take public transport to a game, but I had to leave in the 8th inning to catch the last bus back to Atlanta and ended up missing a walk-off win. Never again. From then on I hired a car to get to the games. Parking and traffic seemed ok, better than I expected, even on a weeknight.
My take on Rob’s goal of winning 90 games. We need to go 25-16. So all we have to do is win nine more in a row and play .500 ball the rest of the way.
90 wins is certainly doable. Amazing what a difference two weeks make.
If you use I 285 across the northern arc between 9 and 3 on a weekday. You shouldnâ€™t have problems with traffic. If you donâ€™t want to get in crazy Atlanta traffic, either donâ€™t move around much or use Uber or a cab.
@63 Do you mean 485? It’s worse than 285. I’ve lived here so long the traffic usually doesn’t bother me so much but I do avoid 485 if possible and definitely at rush hour.
I cannot emphasize how easy it is to get in an out of the red deck, which is right next to the stadium. This is especially true if you get to The Battery 2.5 hours before game time to soak it all in. If you spend $50 in the battery, you can get your parking validated with your receipts and it’s free.
Seriously, it’s the best thing going. I’ve done it every time I’ve went to a game.
@22 Ryan, if the US is letting Europeans in by then, I will be there.
The Dark Night awaits…
SATURDAY…reincarnate, if he will
The role, if not the arm.
thank you guys.
Delphi has nothing on blazon. Be well, old friend.
@ 64, CindyJ,
I was trying to address metro Atlanta traffic. I have minimal experience with Charlotte travel (although the last time I came through there I learned a LOT about the horrors of Greenville Spartanburg traffic).
So, I don’t know where or how 785 or 485 affect your journey. But when you get into Metro Atlanta, that is when potentially trying 285 is a potential bad traffic issue. However, if you get to roughly U. S. 129 intersection (Gainesville / Jefferson) on I 85 at or after 9 a.m. on a week day and before 2:00 p.m., you should be able to get to Truist area without bad traffic delays. On weekends, generally there is less traffic, but check Georgia DOT site on potential road work / lane closures on interstates on the weekend. I have no knowledge of any in that zone now (I was just up there about 4 weeks ago and went through the I 285 Georgia 400 intersection about 3 times), but don’t “assume” or it can make an ass of u and me.
@64, I believe the state DOT site cliff @69 mentioned is http://www.511ga.org. It’s very helpful. When we used it 10 days ago heading to and through Atlanta from South Carolina on I-85, if anything it seemed a little conservative – sections of I-85 it had highlighted in red were slower than normal but definitely moving.
Don’t know if above is “behind paywall.” Short version is that by September 10 in the evening, DOT is shutting 2 lanes in each direction on Northern Arc 285 for a couple of months. That will mean crawling traffic almost until midnight and starting again at 5 in the morning.
@69 Oh, ok. Gotcha. Thanks!!
@71 Uh oh
There’s a reason they call it Drivin’ N’ Cryin’!
Braves give TDA a little PDA in the form of a two-year extension. Interesting.
Interstate 285 is a mess and it sounds like itâ€™s only going to get worse.
The good news is that if we acquire a new pitcher who only knows to go around on that highway, Truist Park is immediately next to 285, so at least that pitcher shouldnâ€™t go around more than once. Unfortunately just one time around may take several hours.
Don’t like it.
Giving him and extension allows us to use Billy Conteras as trade bait.
@74: Ryan and I discussed whether he would be amenable to sticking around for less than a full time gig. Ryan, if I attribute opinions to you that are wrong, please correct. I be!I’ve we agreed he would be a wonderful mentor for our two young backstops.
Maybe I should re-think whether I like this. We just spent $8M per to guarantee we won’t have a black hole at catcher over the next couple years, so that’s nice. It would be real nice if the 9th overall pick of the 2019 draft (Langeliers), who is now 23 years old, could be a factor. Contreras is also 23. I just kinda wish we could get some long-term stability at the position already.
But I did think this the other day, and I guess this is my first opportunity to actually believe it in practice: considering the lost 2020 season, we should subtract one year from the age of every prospect. So if a prospect is 25 (like Kyle Wright, for example), we should look at him as a 24-year old. Not much better, but better. Both of our catching prospects, therefore, are 22, and therefore expectations should be tempered, I suppose. And accordingly, I can’t be too too mad that we’re paying for a 2-year caddy in d’Arnaud.
So I guess I don’t like it, but I don’t hate it.
Depth is something that great teams have. This isn’t that much money. Catchers get hurt. TDA gets hurt. The prospects will contribute in some form. Don’t overthink it.
I’d like to see the Braves utilize all 3 of Contreras, Langeliers, and d’Arnaud at some point in time in 2022. Something like…
d’arnaud catches 80/DHs 40
Langeliers catches 80/DHs 40
Contrereas plays DH/3rd catcher/PH role
There’s a reasonable concern that a 33- or 34-year old Travis d’Arnaud could be sub-replacement level and not even be worth $8M per, but I agree with all; great to have depth, especially at catcher. And he won’t block Contreras or Langeliers if they’re ready.
@79 This certainly should keep us from the Kevan Smith/Corky Miller types for the forseeable future. That in itself is worth the money, albeit with a lot less comedy relief from Braves Journal without those types. Some of the comparisons and one liners were pure gold!
If TDA can basically be our new David Ross, I love this deal. My real question is whether they got the money insured in case of injury, because d’Arnaud’s injury history is Buxtonian.
One of Contreras/Langeliers is getting traded. The other will be ready to take over as full-time guy in 2024. In the meantime, Braves get to keep a silver slugger in the lineup.
Best of all – itâ€™s Liberty Mediaâ€™s money.
FG on Dansbo: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/how-dansby-swanson-increased-contact-without-sacrificing-power/
It makes it easier to ease in Contreras/Langeliers. Iâ€™d like Langeliers to get at least 200 ABs at Gwinnett next season. Contreras can share time with TDA and DH some if needed.
Such wordsmiths! Buxtonian.
@86â€“interesting piece. In a nutshell, it points out how unusual it is to cut way back on strikeouts while simultaneously dramatically increasing power. Thatâ€™s just what Dans has done since the ASB. Apparently itâ€™s much more common for hitters who increase contact rate to actually lose power, sacrificing power for contact.
Our TV guys keep attributing the increase in power to his cutting back on strikeouts.
AA says Anderson should be ready to return after his next rehab start Tuesday. One would have to think Smyly and Touki will be pitching to keep their rotation spot this weekend. The loser goes to the bullpen probably replacing Tomlin as a long reliever.
OK, Iâ€™m in favor of the dâ€™Arnaud deal.
Recency bias much, T?
I repeat: Freddie is not the only NL first baseman to hit for the cycle twice. He is the only NL first baseman to hit for the cycle twice in the National League. Bob Watson and John Olerud were NL first baseman who hit for the cycle twice. They were also AL first basemen when they hit one of them.
It’s such a caveated thing that it’s really not worth Braves State Media continuing to tout it IMO, especially since they can’t stop beefing it. I think most fans have a pretty good idea of the context of how rare hitting for the cycle is, and therefore how rare doing it multiple times in a career is. This NL 1B thing is too clever by half.
73 pitches through 7? I’m starting to smell a complete game…
I’ve only been able to check the score on occasion tonight. Are the Orioles swinging at every first pitch? The pitch count is reminiscent of once upon a time.
@95 A Maddux? maybe……
Corky Miller’s Twitter profile header reads: “I’m Corky. That’s it.”
Snit better not even think of taking Max out of this game. Pure Domination!
82 through 8 (Yahoo app has 83, I think TV said 82)…a Maddux is definitely possible. Somebody duct tape Snit to the bench just to be sure.
If he gets it, will it be called a Mad-Max?
CG shutout in 90 pitches?! Be still my heart. What a performance. Mad Max indeed.
What a game by Max. I forgot what a complete game was like
Master piece (two words??)
Wow, this Braves team is on a run. When’s the last stretch that we saw this sort of vibe (2020? 2019?)
As someone said earlier: what a difference a few weeks make.
Also as someone said earlier: Tomlin’s got to go.
Question (likely for JonathanF): How many pitchers have thrown shutouts since the start of the 2020 season that were not also no-hitters? It seems like that’s the only way anymore that a manager lets a pitcher go nine.
Very Maddux like complete game for Max. That was pretty and thatâ€™s how you save the pen. The good bullpen arms have now had three days off in a row
@104: Dependent as I am on Retrosheet, I have no easy access to 2021 data. I’ll go look at 2020 in a bit…
I take it back. Complete games are actually fairly easy to search on Bref. Stay tuned…
Look, I know itâ€™s controversial, and I donâ€™t want to start any fights, but when Anderson comes back I think Fried should stay in the rotation.
What a game by Mighty Max!!
Here are all the shutout 9 inning wins since 2017, sorted by descending number of pitches thrown. Only 3 pitchers did it in less than 90 pitches: Wainwright, Alcantara and Hendricks, whose name doesn’t end in an X. https://stathead.com/tiny/oVnxA
So basically I was wrong. There are still way more shutouts with hits allowed than no-hitters. Eighty-one shutouts with hits allowed since 2017 and 14 no-hit shutouts.
From JonathanF data: 14 shutouts under 100 pitches on that timeline, two of which were no hitters, at 98 and 99 pitches.
@109, thanks. Sorting that list by strikeouts shows how closely associated strikeout rates are with long-term pitcher quality. Each of these games is a 9-inning shutout, so they’re all worth basically the same as far as the result. You might even argue that the low-K games have fewer pitches and so are a sign of better pitcher quality; it certainly seems like a 90-pitch shutout is more impressive than a 120-pitch one, or at least a sign of a lower chance of injury. However, almost all of the pitchers in the group who have made or are likely to make multiple All-Star teams, get serious Cy Young consideration, etc., show up at the top of the list, while the names at the bottom of the list look very different.