122 thoughts on “Not winless game thread: April 11, Braves at Astros”

  1. Not sure what to expect from Delgado tonight. Anything from slightly-above-average to Albie Lopez wouldn’t surprise me

  2. That new SS has some power but not enough singles. That old man filled in well so Franciso could get an off day.

  3. @5-

    (Quote taken directly from CAC):

    “His line against Wandy Rodriguez is .308/.357/.500 over 26 plate appearances.”

  4. I would assume that if there’s a bench player who’s had a lot of success against that day’s starter, we’ll probably see him in the starting lineup. Fredi likes giving his bench players occasional starts, and his starters occasional days off.

  5. They’re complaining about sample size over at CAC, as well, but if Fredi’s gonna give bench players starts, I’d rather it be based on this than the dart board method. Also, I thought the plan was to ease Pastornicky in. Seems a little early to abandon that plan.

  6. @6, 7 even if the results date from 2009?

    So, the guy that no one wanted on the team in the first place gets a day off against a really tough LHP, in favor of the backup who has had success against that LHP in his career, and we still complain? I swear to god, Fredi Gonzalez could cure cancer and bring peace to the Middle East while fucking Jennifer Love Hewitt and you boys would find something to whinge about.

  7. Among other things, yes. I curse in ways that would make sailors blush, in general. I’m *way* toned down for Mac here.

  8. We are clearly in your debt. Thanks for keepin’ it real.

    Welcome, Spikesey! *heartsparkdollarsign*

  9. @15, I agree. I think founding that decision on Wilson’s performance v Rodriguez would be a stretch, that’s all, and I have no evidence that Fredi’s done that in any event.

  10. What are you going say to Wilson? “I’d rather you never started, but I need to give the kid some off days–might as well be today.” Of course not. You say, “Jack, you’ve had success against this guy–I’d like you to start tonight. You’ll give the team a better chance to win.” The truth value of the statement is beside the point. Just like I tell my kids, “Be good or Santa won’t bring you any presents.”

  11. “I swear to god, Fredi Gonzalez could cure cancer and bring peace to the Middle East while fucking Jennifer Love Hewitt and you boys would find something to whinge about.”

    Yeah. That he was boning JLH and I wasn’t.

  12. @20

    Exactly! If you’re gonna start bench players, you might as well do it against pitchers they’ve had success against. On paper, the sample size is too small, but in reality, they’ll have confidence, which can’t hurt, at the very least.

  13. There’s no textual evidence that Bethany wasn’t thinking of JLH when she shouted “YES!!!”

  14. Don’t like Wilson starts; really don’t like them the day after Pastornicky hits a home run.

  15. @42 – For the record, I will *never* be contrarian and complain about mocking/hating/complaining about Chip.

  16. I don’t understand a squeeze with men on 2nd and 3rd… You can’t ground into a double play, which is your worst case scenario… Plus, the pitcher was up next, to hit with a man on 3rd, one out… Maybe take a shot at driving then both in, then let your pitcher squeeze?

  17. @40

    They were both ideal times for squeezes, especially since they couldn’t have been expecting the second one.


    It wasn’t Dan Uggla at the plate, it was Jack Wilson.

  18. Thank God for the audio overlay on MLB.TV. Powell and Sutton are ten times better than those clowns on Peachtree.

  19. @53, you hush your mouth – I heard somewhere he was .308/.357/.500 over 26 plate appearances against Rodriguez

  20. I get the Wilson can’t hit part… I’m just saying that with two in scoring position, no out, and no forces available on the bases, most non-k outcomes would equal a run, and most safeties would mean two runs.

    I see that the squeeze scored the run, but its no more a guarantee to work than “go hit a flyball” is.. but the “go hit a flyball” technique has more upside.

    Mostly I don’t get leaving it up to the pitcher to drive in the other runner. Even with an error and a base on balls following, that man was still stranded at third.

    I just don’t like the squeeze and I don’t especially don’t like it with no out and I triple don’t like it with two in scoring position. With the pitcher on deck, I just.. whatever.

  21. Mostly I don’t get leaving it up to the pitcher to drive in the other runner.

    They were playing for one additional run there, not two.

  22. I really wish they’d worked Wandy harder than 5 pitches there. But there are runs, so it’s a minor nit I suppose.

  23. 59 – totally agree. I don’t like bunting in pretty much any situation. Outs are the most valuable commodity in baseball, and giving them away on purpose is almost never a good idea. Certainly there are times where it makes sense, but early in the game isn’t one of those times. Mostly because we *don’t know how many runs it will take to win*. Playing for one extra run towards the end of the game is more defensible.

    That said, I don’t think it’s worth whining about too much in this case, only because Wilson sucks and getting one run across with Wilson and the pitcher due up is probably not too bad an outcome. I still don’t like giving up a chance for a big inning though.

  24. Yeah, outs are valuable, but you’ve sort of given up your ability to not make them by sending Wilson up there, in the first place. I honestly felt like a bunt there was the most-likely-successful-run-scoring-attempt with him at the plate.

  25. Hang the plastic tarps from the ceiling and put on your goggles: it’s Durbin time.

    EDIT: Check that. CMart time…still might want to leave the tarps up in case he’s had too much to drink.

  26. Yeah…it’s probably good to start trashing our reliever that appeared in 75 games last year and had a sub-1 ERA.

  27. EOF now with a few Grybos to start the year.

    Don’t care, still one of my favorite Braves.

  28. No one’s going to agree, but hit-and-run was a decent call there, and it was pure bad luck that it didn’t work out. Just gotta shrug your shoulders and move on.

  29. He floated it to right-center.

    He’s Jack Wilson. He should stick to sweet D and timely bunts.

  30. Nice. It won’t look quite as pretty as it did last year, but our ‘pen will still get it done.

  31. So with just the weird hit-and-run call in the ‘bad decision’ pile (up to 10 total if you’re counting at home), Fredi notches another managerial win. I liked the two straight squeezes.

    And Delgado was impressive.

  32. You guys are nuts. If you don’t think that hit-and-run call was OK, then you don’t think any hit-and-run call is OK, as far as I’m concerned. I’m not gonna worry too much about it since we won, but yeesh…

  33. Kept up with the game on the wonderful iPhone app. (Creeping back to normalcy, are we?) Nice to get some hits again from our better players. If Heyward keeps raking, we can be good. And Delgado made some great pitches tonight. Kid’s got some poise.

    Got to the Bowery Ballroom to see the Alabama Shakes tonight, went upstairs to get a brew at the less-busy bar & realized I was standing next to… Bill Cowher. WTF?

    BTW, if you like gritty rockin’ soul & you haven’t checked out the Alabama Shakes (from Athens, yes, but the one in Alabama), do so. Their singer, Brittany, is something else. Really belts it. Super soulful, but not Aretha-like, more greasy grits & gravy. Had the place in the palm of her hand tonight.


  34. Good win! Heyward’s bomb was the highlight for me.

    Kimbrel was getting HELLA squeezed there at the end.

  35. @114, just “discovered” Alabama Shakes this week and got their new album. Love it! Agree, the singer is impressive. Must’ve been a good concert.

  36. The Shakes are from Alabama. They may have moved to Athens when they started touring relentlessly with the Drive-by Truckers, but they’re from Alabama.

  37. Right. Athens, AL, as noted by ububba.

    If you don’t think that hit-and-run call was OK, then you don’t think any hit-and-run call is OK, as far as I’m concerned.

    I mean, this is a really stupid thing to keep arguing about, granted, but…seriously? No hit-and-run calls? What about hit-and-run calls with guys who can actually hit? ‘Cause those are the kind I’m in favor of. Not sure what’s so hard to understand about that.

  38. Well, to finish this part of the trip 2-4 after that start, while not encouraging, is not ‘slash your wrist’ depressing.

    Heyward showing signs is of IS encouraging.

    Now let’s get on a streak!

  39. Missed most of the game, but the posts pretty much can sum it up for me. Im glad Heyward started last night, he pretty much won the game for the Braves. Fredi really needs to start using Ross’ bat in PH situations when he can. Freeman’s K totals are a bit alarming.

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