I am guessing that the start of the game will be delayed by rain. From the (never all that reliable) projected radar, it should be raining in Atlanta until about an hour after the game’s due to start.
My thoughts go out to his very large family. He took care of a great deal of people with the money he made.
Is it just me, or has it been raining at game time even more than usual? It’s like we’re playing in South Florida.
mravery
on June 19, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Back to that trade from last thread: Jurrjens is extremely valuable if he returns healthy. He hasn’t even hit his first year of arbitration. Lee is outstandingly valuable for this year, but after that he’s just worth two draft picks, late-first-round and after. If you move both of them, you’re down to KK, Hudson, Hanson, and Medlen, hoping Minor is able to play at the ML level and Teheran/Delgado work out. And what happens when someone gets hurt?
No, Jurrjens/Lowe for Lee might be reasonable value-wise because dumping Lowe might be worth something close to Jurrjens, Vizcaino, too? No way. And FWIW, Lowe is providing some value by going out there every 5th day and pitching 6+ not bad innings (the Arizona start notwithstanding). If we had another pitcher go down right now, what would we do? Trust in Resop? Push Venters into the rotation? Not sure I like those options….
reaganman
on June 19, 2010 at 3:04 pm
@4 – I see your points, but if someone got hurt we could sign someone like Pedro.
so, since this seems to be our standard lineup against a righty, would you guys be cool with this against lefties:
1. Prado 2B, 2. Heyward RF, 3. Chipper 3B, 4. Glaus 1b, 5. McCann C, 6. Diaz LF, 7. Escobar SS, 8. Andruw CF, 9. Medlen RH
There’s no way that the Braves could carry two righthanded platoon outfielders.
Tom
on June 19, 2010 at 3:42 pm
What happened to the Minnesota Twins? They looked pretty good against us, but they really stink in Philadelphia. They were 3-0 up top of the first, but now it’s 3-3 and Philly still batting in the bottom half.
It’s hard to believe he was so dehydrated that it was affecting his vision to that extent, but if he thinks this is working, then awesome.
ryan c
on June 19, 2010 at 4:06 pm
the dry eyes make total sense. caffeine is a diuretic and those rockstar drinks (which, from what i can tell was what mccann was drinking)have 160mg of caffeine along with other “natural” ingredients that produce a false high.
for comparison, mountain dew, known for its high-caffeine content has 55 mg of caffeine per 12 oz. so, basically, brian was drinking 3 mountain dews right before game time.
ryan c
on June 19, 2010 at 4:08 pm
@9
we could if we found someone to take mclouth. i dont know who in their right mind would do it.
that could work. or, trade melky for a RH reliever and platoon mclouth and andruw, which makes more sense considering he’s cheaper and someone might take a flier on him improving. take that deal to the white sox and see if they’ll trade andruw and a RH reliever for melky.
braves14
on June 19, 2010 at 4:16 pm
Andruw doesn’t/can’t play center anymore either.
Nasa from france
on June 19, 2010 at 4:34 pm
I can’t believe that it took him (BMac regarding the dry eyes) so long to figure that out! I know that energy drinks are quite popular in the States, but ain’t it quite common sense that these things aren’t as good as water when it comes to hydration? Don’t the Braves have a medical or training staff that should have told him to stop this before? Athletes like him shouldn’t have to use energy drinks, that stuff is made for 40 year-olds who can’t get through their 10 minute weekly jogging session without feeling the urge to die.
It’s a REALLY long season, and apparently amphetamines are no longer nearly as prevalent in clubhouses. It’s understandable why he’d drink a lot of caffeine. Playing the game night after night, it makes sense why he’d need a pick me up — and it’s addictive, so it’s understandable why it became a routine. It’s a good thing he’s going to stop. I hope the caffeine withdrawal doesn’t hit him too hard. It sounds like he was drinking a ton.
Back in the days when I went to a lotta Hawks games at The Omni, I got there early one afternoon for a Bullets game, just to go down to the court during the pre-game shootaround & try to stand near Manute Bol.
I succeeded and, boy, was that an experience. So long, big guy.
Gotta say, it’s quite a difference catching a 1 pm Yanks/Mets game. Basically, relatively few people are hammered & folks are way more civilized. And thanks, Tex, for waking up against the Mets.
urlhix
on June 19, 2010 at 5:09 pm
@15, 20,
Yeah, that stuff is poison as far as I’m concerned.
I can’t find the original research now, but that second link is pretty close.
Basically, it turns out that caffeine is only a very mild diuretic, about the same as water (!), and people who consume a lot of it actually build up a resistance to the diuretic effect pretty quickly. The original research, which started this misconception, failed to consider that last fact.
I don’t know what this means for McCann; maybe he has a sensitivity, or there’s some kind of complication, or it was something else in the energy drinks. But in general, caffeine is not a diuretic; the research is very, very clear.
Robert
on June 19, 2010 at 5:39 pm
I guess I missed this, the Mets are now carrying two Felicianos? What are the odds? Are they related?
I’m trying to work out a “Jose Feliciano is the umpire” joke here.
I got bored in a meeting on Thursday and decided to play with the sketch pad on my phone. And now, I present, a Mac Thomason original, “Auburn Residence Hall”.
According to Wikipedia, which is of course always accurate, the combination of the high doses of caffeine and sugar in energy drinks can lead to dehydration. I dunno.
A brief search of the internet reveals that most Auburn students in fact no longer live in trailers. Instead, they live “off-campus in the tenement-like apartment complexes and condos that surround the immediate area around the university”. Progress!
Dear Pod Person: You can’t throw. Admit it. And just lob it into second. All you accomplished there was to let Chipper get into scoring position. So, thanks! Love, Mac.
That was a great sequence, I like that the team has been able to play some small ball.
Except they are incapable of hitting sac flies.
Robert
on June 19, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Wow what a shitty play by Betancourt.
urlhix
on June 19, 2010 at 6:28 pm
I like pronouncing it “Glawss.”
Edit: Troy-Bilt is also acceptable.
Brian J.
on June 19, 2010 at 6:29 pm
So apparently, Chipper reached second on an ill-advised throw by Podsednik, third on a passed ball by Kendall, and scored on a Betancourt error. I love playing the Royals.
I probably would have given Glaus a hit, but that’s probably because (a) I want him to win the RBI title and (b) I am increasingly distainful of the “unearned run” concept.
BTW, Chipper’s takeout of the 2B is what made Heyward take off for the plate. As soon as he went down, Heyward, who had stopped at third, broke for home.
Alright, stop the bleeding & let’s win this thing.
Ethan
on June 19, 2010 at 8:02 pm
Moving Melky to left saved a run. He had to play that cleanly off the wall to keep the runner at third. I doubt Hinkse gets to it in time. Melky’s fat, but he’s fast for a fat guy.
EDIT: not that it ended up mattering
kc
on June 19, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Thank goodness…Bulter destroyed that pitch…
kc
on June 19, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Just checked the box score…man, I love Lidge.
Ethan
on June 19, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Greinke is getting reigning Cy Young strike calls tonight. Our staff is good, and Hanson’s getting close, but we don’t get those calls like we used to.
Stu
on June 19, 2010 at 8:20 pm
78—Medlen got a very generous strike-3 against Guillen with one out and a man on third in the sixth.
sdp
on June 19, 2010 at 8:23 pm
This game needs to be won tonight.
kc
on June 19, 2010 at 8:23 pm
My goodness…96 from Venters? That’s mighty impressive.
sdp
on June 19, 2010 at 8:25 pm
I can throw 97.
kc
on June 19, 2010 at 8:26 pm
For those of you who are concerned with Jason’s recent K-rate, look no further than Mike Stanton who is having a even bigger problem as expected…something has to be done with that name, it keeps remind me of our own Mike Stanton…or the Yankees’ Mike Stanton…
I am guessing that the start of the game will be delayed by rain. From the (never all that reliable) projected radar, it should be raining in Atlanta until about an hour after the game’s due to start.
Manute Bol died. He was never all that good of a player — but he was a good man.
My thoughts go out to his very large family. He took care of a great deal of people with the money he made.
Is it just me, or has it been raining at game time even more than usual? It’s like we’re playing in South Florida.
Back to that trade from last thread: Jurrjens is extremely valuable if he returns healthy. He hasn’t even hit his first year of arbitration. Lee is outstandingly valuable for this year, but after that he’s just worth two draft picks, late-first-round and after. If you move both of them, you’re down to KK, Hudson, Hanson, and Medlen, hoping Minor is able to play at the ML level and Teheran/Delgado work out. And what happens when someone gets hurt?
No, Jurrjens/Lowe for Lee might be reasonable value-wise because dumping Lowe might be worth something close to Jurrjens, Vizcaino, too? No way. And FWIW, Lowe is providing some value by going out there every 5th day and pitching 6+ not bad innings (the Arizona start notwithstanding). If we had another pitcher go down right now, what would we do? Trust in Resop? Push Venters into the rotation? Not sure I like those options….
@4 – I see your points, but if someone got hurt we could sign someone like Pedro.
@4 – Don’t sleep on Joseph Reyes!
Mets lost, Phils losing. Good day for a win.
same as yesterday
1. Prado 2B, 2. Heyward RF, 3. Chipper 3B, 4. McCann C, 5. Glaus 1B, 6. Hinske LF, 7. Escobar SS, 8. Cabrera CF, 9. Medlen RH
so, since this seems to be our standard lineup against a righty, would you guys be cool with this against lefties:
1. Prado 2B, 2. Heyward RF, 3. Chipper 3B, 4. Glaus 1b, 5. McCann C, 6. Diaz LF, 7. Escobar SS, 8. Andruw CF, 9. Medlen RH
There’s no way that the Braves could carry two righthanded platoon outfielders.
What happened to the Minnesota Twins? They looked pretty good against us, but they really stink in Philadelphia. They were 3-0 up top of the first, but now it’s 3-3 and Philly still batting in the bottom half.
andruw had a good april
may – 208/301/417
june – 083/214/208
no thanks
Pedro will probably be a Phillie again.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100618&content_id=11319004¬ebook_id=11321032&vkey=notebook_atl&fext=.jsp&c_id=atl&partnerId=rss_atl
McCann’s problem was energy drinks?
It’s hard to believe he was so dehydrated that it was affecting his vision to that extent, but if he thinks this is working, then awesome.
the dry eyes make total sense. caffeine is a diuretic and those rockstar drinks (which, from what i can tell was what mccann was drinking)have 160mg of caffeine along with other “natural” ingredients that produce a false high.
for comparison, mountain dew, known for its high-caffeine content has 55 mg of caffeine per 12 oz. so, basically, brian was drinking 3 mountain dews right before game time.
@9
we could if we found someone to take mclouth. i dont know who in their right mind would do it.
12 pitchers
glaus, prado, escobar, chipper, infante, hinske, cabrera, diaz, heyward, ross, conrad, mccann, ross.
that could work. or, trade melky for a RH reliever and platoon mclouth and andruw, which makes more sense considering he’s cheaper and someone might take a flier on him improving. take that deal to the white sox and see if they’ll trade andruw and a RH reliever for melky.
Andruw doesn’t/can’t play center anymore either.
I can’t believe that it took him (BMac regarding the dry eyes) so long to figure that out! I know that energy drinks are quite popular in the States, but ain’t it quite common sense that these things aren’t as good as water when it comes to hydration? Don’t the Braves have a medical or training staff that should have told him to stop this before? Athletes like him shouldn’t have to use energy drinks, that stuff is made for 40 year-olds who can’t get through their 10 minute weekly jogging session without feeling the urge to die.
It’s a REALLY long season, and apparently amphetamines are no longer nearly as prevalent in clubhouses. It’s understandable why he’d drink a lot of caffeine. Playing the game night after night, it makes sense why he’d need a pick me up — and it’s addictive, so it’s understandable why it became a routine. It’s a good thing he’s going to stop. I hope the caffeine withdrawal doesn’t hit him too hard. It sounds like he was drinking a ton.
Back in the days when I went to a lotta Hawks games at The Omni, I got there early one afternoon for a Bullets game, just to go down to the court during the pre-game shootaround & try to stand near Manute Bol.
I succeeded and, boy, was that an experience. So long, big guy.
Gotta say, it’s quite a difference catching a 1 pm Yanks/Mets game. Basically, relatively few people are hammered & folks are way more civilized. And thanks, Tex, for waking up against the Mets.
@15, 20,
Yeah, that stuff is poison as far as I’m concerned.
Caffeine is not really a diuretic.
http://advance.uconn.edu/2002/020722/02072207.htm
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_caffeine_a_diuretic
I can’t find the original research now, but that second link is pretty close.
Basically, it turns out that caffeine is only a very mild diuretic, about the same as water (!), and people who consume a lot of it actually build up a resistance to the diuretic effect pretty quickly. The original research, which started this misconception, failed to consider that last fact.
I don’t know what this means for McCann; maybe he has a sensitivity, or there’s some kind of complication, or it was something else in the energy drinks. But in general, caffeine is not a diuretic; the research is very, very clear.
I guess I missed this, the Mets are now carrying two Felicianos? What are the odds? Are they related?
I’m trying to work out a “Jose Feliciano is the umpire” joke here.
I got bored in a meeting on Thursday and decided to play with the sketch pad on my phone. And now, I present, a Mac Thomason original, “Auburn Residence Hall”.
According to Wikipedia, which is of course always accurate, the combination of the high doses of caffeine and sugar in energy drinks can lead to dehydration. I dunno.
Ok, the trailer jokes are officially old and pathetic, just like the people who SWEAR there are cow pastures 100 feet from Toomer’s.
I really don’t like where this conversation is headed. I’m not giving up my Diet Mountain Dew. Please don’t tell me it’s secretly killing me.
@25,
You really nailed the windows.
I got spoiled hearing no Chip the past couple of days.
That was a really poorly located 3-1 fastball…
A brief search of the internet reveals that most Auburn students in fact no longer live in trailers. Instead, they live “off-campus in the tenement-like apartment complexes and condos that surround the immediate area around the university”. Progress!
At least they aren’t stabbing each other over Phil Jackson. Now THAT’S a high class joint.
The cows prefer to argue about golf.
Prado is a fine leadoff hitter.
Hey, I linked to the Phil Jackson thing.
Dear Pod Person: You can’t throw. Admit it. And just lob it into second. All you accomplished there was to let Chipper get into scoring position. So, thanks! Love, Mac.
That was a great sequence, I like that the team has been able to play some small ball.
Except they are incapable of hitting sac flies.
Wow what a shitty play by Betancourt.
I like pronouncing it “Glawss.”
Edit: Troy-Bilt is also acceptable.
So apparently, Chipper reached second on an ill-advised throw by Podsednik, third on a passed ball by Kendall, and scored on a Betancourt error. I love playing the Royals.
I probably would have given Glaus a hit, but that’s probably because (a) I want him to win the RBI title and (b) I am increasingly distainful of the “unearned run” concept.
Mac, do you think the unearned run should be eliminated, or changed?
I think it should be mostly ignored. Just tell me how many runs the pitcher gave up, not whose “fault” it is.
That’s a plus-plus changeup from Medlen. Very deceptive delivery.
Another pathetic flyball to right from Esco. For God sake, you’ve got to pull the ball now and then or they will just keep busting you inside.
Woah, Twins came back and took the lead in the 10th.
And just gave it up on a pinch-hit home run.
Man, I’m counting 9 homers in that game.
Medlen is looking great, I hope he gets to stay in the rotation.
That was one of the best ABs I’ve seen by Heyward in a while.
There we go, maybe the Twins can make that lead stick.
Man, the ump was giving Greinke the corner in Chipper’s AB.
Vikings 13, Eagles 10.
He’s completely lost location on his FB this inning.
I’m glad to see that Brian had enough energy to make it around the bases without caffeine.
TAKE THE OUT!
Greinke must die.
That was dirty. If he bats again, he better get knocked down.
Do tell…
what happened? (mlbtv is slow getting started)
Let’s beat up Greinke, then knock him down.
Slide was way high and late and Greinke (or someone) needs a ball in the ear for that one
Greinke went into Prado with his knees as he slid over the base.
Thanks.
That’s lame. He certainly should get one high and tight. Not wear one… just something to think about.
HA!
THAT. WAS. AWESOME.
Heads-up. Hell yeah.
That’s an RBI, by the way.
Nice hustle, kid.
No way that throw gets him at home.
BTW, Chipper’s takeout of the 2B is what made Heyward take off for the plate. As soon as he went down, Heyward, who had stopped at third, broke for home.
Nice payback slide from Chipper, too.
Weird that Greinke’s hitting. What does that say about their bullpen?
I still think it was Chipper’s throw which killed Prado and not the runner.
Medlen after six innings = no good.
Well….this would have been a nice one to win.
Took too long to get Medlen out…
Alright, stop the bleeding & let’s win this thing.
Moving Melky to left saved a run. He had to play that cleanly off the wall to keep the runner at third. I doubt Hinkse gets to it in time. Melky’s fat, but he’s fast for a fat guy.
EDIT: not that it ended up mattering
Thank goodness…Bulter destroyed that pitch…
Just checked the box score…man, I love Lidge.
Greinke is getting reigning Cy Young strike calls tonight. Our staff is good, and Hanson’s getting close, but we don’t get those calls like we used to.
78—Medlen got a very generous strike-3 against Guillen with one out and a man on third in the sixth.
This game needs to be won tonight.
My goodness…96 from Venters? That’s mighty impressive.
I can throw 97.
For those of you who are concerned with Jason’s recent K-rate, look no further than Mike Stanton who is having a even bigger problem as expected…something has to be done with that name, it keeps remind me of our own Mike Stanton…or the Yankees’ Mike Stanton…
Bunt?
I think that the Marlins outfielder should change his name to “Mike Marshall”.
That’s 11 appearances in 18 games this month for Venters now. Saito needs to get back soon.
@82 If Kimbrel can become something, we will have quite a bullpen duo..
…oh…Chipper…
If nothing goes wrong, Saito should be up Tuesday.
The sac fly is such an elusive thing…
@85 Mac, I really like your idea…let’s do that…I am too old to handle name confusion…
Filthy damn pitch to strike out Chipper.
@89 It would be a sac fly if it was Mac who was batting with one out…
Geez…who is pitching in the extra? Let’s win in the bottom of the ninth!!!
I love Wag!!!
We better win in the ninth, because the bullpen in extras will be Chavez, Kimbrel, and the Lisp.
@95 Troy, hit a homerun and we can all go home.
If we don’t, I’d at least go Kimbrel for two innings. He hasn’t pitched since the 14th.
I am god.
Glaus!!!!
You’re a freaking prophet.
I love happy endings.
Sweet. 🙂
Ladies and Gentlemen, your NL MVP.
Braves win! Braves win! Braves win! Braves….WIN!
The Glausbeast!
Yeehaw!
Nice call, KC.
I suppose that tonight we prevailed because of some big things too.
Kyle Davies on the mound tomorrow. I feel like Kenshin may get his win.
Big, big win tonight.
And we gain a game on the Mets and Phils.
Thank goodness! Hilarious that in the end we win on a homer. Glaus is such a godsend.
Helluva call, kc.
Recapped.