Omar Moreno Statistics and History – Baseball-Reference.com
Seasons with Braves: 1986
Notable stats: .276 OBP; 17 SB/16 CS
Notable accomplishment: With 1980 Pirates, set all-time record for outs made in a season.
Versus
Danny Bautista Statistics and History – Baseball-Reference.com
Seasons with Braves: 1996-1998
Notable stats: .280 OBP, 70 OPS+
Notable accomplishment: Won World Series ring with Diamondbacks in 2001, hit .583 in the Series.
I don’t think he got that ring with the d-backs in 2004… (good change there Mac… 2001 sounds more right).
lets try this tonight
Diaz
McLouth
Chip
Mac
Roach
Yunel
GA
Infante
I’d like to make Fat Chino our manager.
From the last thread:
Thanks BFedRec!
Made my day.
No.5 is Number 1 with me these days.
I voted Omar Moreno because the worst memory I have of Bautista wasn’t really his fault entirely (Cox playing him instead of Michael Tucker in Game 6 of the 1998 NLCS), plus he gets small sympathy pangs because I remember watching in horror as he had his face destroyed by that pitch a couple years earlier.
I’m not old enough to have seen Omar Moreno play (or at least to remember it), but his numbers and overall accomplishments appear to be worse than Bautista.
I was a Bucs fan back in the heyday of Omar the Outmaker. He was awful.
Continuing on what to do with pitchers,
Hudson should have been activated as a 2-3 inning reliever after about 2 minor league rehab starts. Then, his first few outings you run him out about every 2nd or 3rd day in the Acosta role about 2 times. Then, as he showed he could do that you either (1) moved him toward starting or (2) kept him as a long man but projected later in the game. Like, Lowe comes out after 6, Hudson finishes. The rest iof the pen gets a night off.
Not only do we probably pick up 2 other games as wins, the “fumes” quotient in the pen is much better looking forward.
Moreno is definitely the worst Brave of the modern era, even worse than Frenchy. Luis frickin’ Gomez at least played a little D.
Kehrsam,
I think that’s taking it too far…
There’s a reason I seeded him so high.
The infielding Omar Moreno:
Damaso Garcia Statistics and History – Baseball-Reference.com
I didn’t include him because he only played 21 games with the Braves, but they were very bad.
Omar the Outmaker in an easy one. I remember thinking in ’86 have we really sunk this low? Yeah, we had.
No football picks? Can we at least get a Western Kentucky 3, Tennessee 2 pick for Lane Kiffen’s first game?
I forgot. Sounds about right. Alabama 27, Va. Tech 12.
We getting some picks tomorrow, Mac?
Going to Mets/Cubs tonight. Why? Why not?
Plus, we always seem to win when I see one of the locals play.
Go Braves.
no mclouth again tonight. that hammy must not be any better.
How do you feel about Georgia’s chances ububba? Credit to them for scheduling a nice opening game. I’m stuck with tickets to San Jose State and all the wildfire air I can breathe. Pass.
You have got to be kidding me.
You mean bases loaded, zero out and no runs? No, that really happened. Geez.
I can’t sing.
I chose Danny Bautista solely because I was in the left field stands when he dropped that fly ball which heavily contributed to our ousting from the playoffs by San Diego in 1998. I just can’t shake that memory.
So tired of the Geico commercials.
Same offense we saw last night. Ninety feet at a time, station to station.
Why does it keep happening? Well here ya go…..
We have 49 stolen bases which is ranked 28th out of all 30 teams.
Our Braves began the night with a league-leading 43 one-run decisions (they’re 23-20).
Add it all up and it makes perfect sense.
What?!
Just curious, who are the lowest ranked teams? Thanks.
That’s the correct call. For once.
Geez.
Bye Bye Bobby! LOL. Hit the showers.
The Brewers and Cubs with 48 and 45 stolen bases respectively.
That sucks.
It will really suck if Yunel’s hurt.
My my, I can’t watch another second of this. Sorry guys I’m headed for Blockbuster.
Lowe is throwing meatballs.
Escobar is such a wuss.
I bet you he is out for at least the weekend.
Yeah, getting hit in the head is nothing.
Derek Lowe hits better than our “pinch hit specialist.”
Esco tripped over the bag awkwardly. In addition to getting nailed in the head.
Free pass.
JESUS CHRIST STOP BUNTING.
I am not going say anymore about this stupid bunting strategy.
Well, we finally have a reason to dislike Brooks Conrad.
It is getting to be impossible to defend Cox at all anymore.
oh the bunting ideas with a .300 hitter….good grief, this crap cant end soon enough
@41 Why? Bobby’s supporter will always find reasons to support him…like saying he is a HOF manager or saying manager doesn’t make much difference to the outcome of a game…and they also say those two things at the same time.
FIRE COX wtf are you waiting for Wren??? Jesus I’m gonna start to think you’re the bigger moron than Cox is for keeping him around
i have refrained from jumping on him too much because he does do such a good job with the players but he is toast.
His decisions are beyond stupid at this point. There were so many reasons that bunt was a bad idea it is unreal he could not see it.
He really does have to retire.
@44 Jon, I hope you realize firing Bobby, if that will happen at all, will not be a decision Wren can make by himself.
Nice Chipper… way to be about as hapless of a hitter as you could possibly be. You look like a clueless american league pither up there in the box
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does a 3 game losing streak accomplish anything? yes, it does. It gets me ready for UA football
Lowe giving up BP right now
45,
With Cox ejected, we can’t say for sure who’s call that was.
Decent start by Lowe. Shaky control, but not too terrible.
Lucky start.
Jeffy update.
My…my God, its not Norton batting?
Of course not, you have to save him for a situation where a hit might tie the game or give the Braves the lead.
Bobby’s thinking, “Shoulda gone with Norton.”
I’m still convinced one of the main reasons this team can’t score is because Chipper has gone from an NL batting champ to being an afterthought in one season. There’s a reason he draws so many walks, it’s because he realizes he’s lost any and all power a 3 hole player should have. HOWEVER, he still has the talent to be a quality 6th batter in a MLB lineup. But I think he’s lost his abilty to be that three hole guy he’s always been. The longer ATL keeps him there, the longer this offense is going to struggle to put runs consistently on the board
Not enjoying Prado’s slump.
I don’t really agree with Jon… but it is true that when a player is done, sometimes he starts walking a lot more while everything else disappears. See, for example, the Virus.
Mac…
I’m not saying that Chipper is to be blammed for the season woes at the plate. I just think that this team has leaned on chipper to produce for so many years that now that his production and power has decreased dramatically the lineup and management should reflect this. Yet, Cox and upper management still put Chipper in the position to carry the team offensively. It’s not chipper’s fault he’s getting old and his skills are deminishing I just wish they used him more appropriately than they do.
He just isn’t that prototypical three hole player anymore, and some of his AB’s this year have hurt the team. But hey… it’s Cox who makes the lineup. So maybe I’ll just blame him more haha
Kawakami? Huh?
I’m late arriving … any reason there’s no ACHE tonight? Not that I’m missing him. Also I’m too lazy to look it up but it seems like two weeks since Logan pitched–maybe McDowell should introduce Logan to Cox.
Chipper has gone from a 174 to 125 OPS+. Obviously, it’s not his fault the team isn’t making the playoffs. But the fact that he has suffered from a relatively steep drop-off this season has made the necessity of making up for last year’s outfield abyss all the more difficult. With the same production out of Chipper next year, the Braves should be decent with McLouth and Prado instilled in there everyday. I’d still like a real LF, though.
I think its fair to say that McCann has struggled just as much as Chipper at the plate. Both are underperforming in the middle of the lineup and we needed more from them.
btw, our team leader in HR bunting with two outs in the bottom of the 8th with two outs. Pretty much sums it up, these guys dont know how to win
Bunting for a hit. It’s not a bad idea down two runs to try to get a hit against that shift, especially against an accomplished LOOGY.
not with one of the slowest runners in baseball, esp with one who doesnt bunt much
I could make it to first on a bunt towards third with the third baseman that far from the bag. Walking.
119th dp on the season, 3rd in the nl
Haha, awesome way to end it tonight.
plus Laroche bunted towards 1st, not third
in scrolling the thread, I’m surprised Lowe’s Yunel didn’t generate more comment–it and the early 5-2-3 DP were key plays in the offensive suckitude
Frank, it wasnt Lowe’s fault. They called for a bunt and Prado pulled the bat back on a strike. Lowe was left out there to dry. Another reason why the bunt was a horrible call
At 35 give me a break.
thanks–missed that part on the radio–still a key play but Prado’s mistake rather than Lowe’s
Im blaming whoever called for the bunt. First two guys get on and we havent scored. Quit playing for a single run and giving away outs, its ridiculous
Recapped.