All we can hope for is that the Canadian flag will be right-side up for a change.
I’m going to declare Rob Cope the winner of the What’s Wrong With Marcus contest. Rob, email me with your address and requested second celebrity Scientologist. (Here’s a list.)
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Line-up per Fox Sports
I feel sick that the google ad on the front page right now is for Chowdaheadz, a Red Sox site/store. Ugh.
I think now that the media and fans of baseball have declared the “season over for the Braves”, the team will loosen up and start playing better ball. We will see the basic fundamentals put to work and the winning start tonight…i feel it. Go Braves!!!
No complaints with the lineup tonight. You can’t bat everybody 8th.
I thought Thorman played 1B? Why not play our 2nd best hitter in Diaz and sit LaCrap?
I hope the flag is upside down again! The South has the Stanley Cup and now we will beat the Blue Jays!
I saw earlier today someone with my name, so I’ll post with my last name’s initial from now on…
To be fair about the Hurricanes, they did have more Canadians than did the Oilers. But still, it’s funny for the Cup to be in the South two straight years (well, with a year in the middle).
I’m sure Thorman will bat 8th till he proves he can otherwise. If I were Bobby thats what I would do……
Smitty, give us an update on who all is adopted. We only have about an hour to get everyone a “foster parent.”
The pitchers in this game have a combined 2-17 record. Sosa’s ERA (5.35) is 3 1/2 runs better than Towers’ (9.00).
If we can’t win tonight, then God knows when we’ll have a better chance.
Here is who is left.
Plus most of the coaching staff (TP is only one taken)
Yes! Yes! I win!
I like the lineup. We need to find out if Thorman is ready to hit major league pitching. Diaz hasn’t been all that great vs righties anyway. The Jays are actually pitching somebody with Reitsma-like stats, so this would seem to be as good a chance for a win as we’ve had in a while. Which probably means Sosa will give up 10 runs in 2 innings and the Jays pitcher will pitch a shutout. Sigh.
Come on people, step up to the plate and take a player (or coach)…we need some wins!
Mac and Alex R haven’t taken anyone yet. McBride and HoRam are still out there
I said this on the other thread, but I’ll take Betemit.
Congrats. Although I was under the impression that we couldn’t discuss religion on this site, I must say that Scientology never fails to amuse me. Thanks for the chuckle.
DOB in the AJC on the bogus Smoltz rumors:
Diaz hasn’t been all that great vs righties anyway.
Yeah – he is only hitting .367 against them. With that kind of poor performance you can see why he in on the bench…
Fine, I will take HoRam. Mac has professed serious man-love for Macay Mcbride in the past so he clearly belongs to Mac.
Still a few Bravs left! Don’t let one of these guys get in the game without being claimed!
I see NO ONE has complained about the lineup but Giles, still leading off. Can he not consider at least flipping Edgar and Marcus?
We’d better win tonight. The mood in my house is already foul enough with my brother being apoplectic about Michael Owen’s knee folding like a broken lawn chair, and if the Braves lose AGAIN to the Blue Jays, who I have never been able to take seriously, there will be two of us like that, which will probably make my parents move out.
Ok, so HoRam and McBride are gone!
These four need your support, more than anyone else really!
Theory on how the Braves will lose tonight:
Top of the 8th inning, Braves up 5-2, bases loaded, and the Blue Jays pinch hitter with two outs against Kenny Ray?
Yup, the Blue Jays will pull an old player out of mothballs.
But I am hoping for “reverse psychology” by posting how we are going to lose ;-)
I mean, we gotta win sometime, RIGHT?
The Reverse Jinx does not work if you acknowledge it. :(
Can you reverse a reverse jinx? Boy, i hope so. We’re screwed otherwise.
i’m waiting for the last player available. I always felt sorry for the kid picked last in kickball. Who will it be? My guess is Cormier.
If this works, do we divvy up the Mets for the next 10?
We will definitely win tonight. Though I just jinxed the reverse jinx.
Great article, ububba, thanks!
Just a note…the Hurricanes are the Hartford Whalers and their coach, the former coach of the NY Islanders, so their heritage is strictly N.E. Congrats to the Hurricanes and their fans!
i’ll take cormier…what do i have to do?
Renteria just asked me why he’s batting 2nd behind a proven number two hitter who is struggling in the lead off spot. He cited the fact that even MLB 2K6 for the XBox has him in the leadoff spot. I told him to ask Jenny.
Don’t worry, Rob, I think you just jinxed the jinx on the reveresejinx. I think.
And since my guy isn’t in the lineup, can I take Villareal too?
I just talked to my adoptee Andruw, and he said that he’s feeling a long ball or two coming on tonight. Count it.
I’ll take Thomson if he’s still available… I’ll just explain to him that he’s a free agent at the end of the season and, if he wants to get a preposterous contract from some team with money to burn and management stupid enough to throw it at a 30-something league average pitcher, all he needs are a few good months. That will be his new motto: a few good months.
Helluva game last night. Really enjoyed it. Always love a Game-7 Stanley Cup Final & last night didn’t disappoint.
Yes, the ‘Canes are really the Whale & Laviolette is from Mass., but just like every team in the NHL, the Carolina Hurricanes’ heritage is Canadian. And just like every NHL team, the vast majority of their roster hails from the Great White North.
I’m really pulling for Thorman to pull a McCann this year and give the Braves reason to get rid of Bert Laroche next year.
Thanks for the DOB link, ububba. I retract everything I said yesterday about a Smoltz trade being a possibility. Sorry, Smitty.
So, who’s Ernie? McCann? Paronto?
I think Giles could be a good Ernie.
Got to love the 11 pitch first inning.
Um, Troy Glaus is at shortstop. Andruw and Marcus should give him a good deal of work tonight.
Stupid Torborg… You can’t have big innings if you’re worried about “advancing runners”. Big innings rely upon hits and walks, not getting runners to second or third with an out. You only have three outs to work with. “Advancing runners” = “One-run strategies”.
Did somebody accidentally take Josh Towers?
Also, I will always make fun of Scientology. At every opportunity. My rules. Anyway, they say it’s not a religion, except when it does them good to say it is a religion.
So, anyone else think that Ecuador has at least a decent chance against England? (After all, it is Sven Goran Erikkson still managing… Gerrard is England’s hope)
I figure that by talking about something other than the Braves, they won’t feel as much pressure and will play well ;-).
Don’t make me get in my spaceship and come over there!
Who has Sosa? They need to pick up their boy!
I do. Got another plate of maduros on the way!
Gotta love the ground ball outs.
Good cooking, Remy.
If Ecuador playus the way they did against Poland, definitely. England’s going to regret losing Owen. Germany shouldn’t have much trouble with Sweden.
STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR FRANCOEUR!
Who’s got Laroche?? Tell him NO DP.
Torborg is annoying me
Listen to the game on radio.
Are you watching on Turner South or MLB.TV?
mac, look at another one of atlanta’s greats through his first 5 years. he was a free swinger as well. francoeur will only get better. 30 hr 100 rbi’s is a good mark for him. his plate discipline will come. who else could be there?
Turner South.. Where I live we can’t get games on radio..
Ryan C….thats a nice comparison….hope it pans out!
I’ll take Torborg over Ron Gant or those douchelords over on the Padres network.
Ofcourse…I’ll take Torborg over Gant aswell..
But..I’d take a rabid grizzly bear over Gant, so that’s not saying much
Just like more traditional outfits that are considered religions, the Xenu People don’t pay taxes. In my book, that makes ’em a religion.
Heard a hysterical interview with Larry Bowa on the radio today. He’s like Bobby Valentine—can’t shut his mouth about former players and former teams. Like Scientology, I find his take on the Phillies endlessly entertaining.
Remlinger is the only one left, Matt in Boston there you go!
Can we get this Wells guy?
“a batting practice fastball right in the middle of the plate”… yeah, that’s how he usuallly pitches
how many times can Rathburn jinx Sosa?
I’d imagine Wells would play a better third base than Chumper. His reaction time down there is about as slow as his batspeed. Not quite that slow, but close.
I guess the Jays didn’t take BP before the game
I’m afraid to get excited about Sosa.
Evening everyone. Excited to see THOR playing!
Looks like we have the Good Sosa pitching tonight.
Supposedly the Jays were putting on a show in BP, so I think we’re just lucking out.
I was just wondering where Lando was.
SHUT UP TORBORG!
Is Ernie Johnson Sr. dead?
Time for a three-run homer!
Torborg is like a poor man’s McCarver.
I hate that “play” by Chipper that allowed the double. A 2002-season-Chipper would have made that play easily. His rolling around on the ground like that looked pitiful.
First Gant..then Morgan on Sunday..today Torborg.. the trifecta is complete
I think Torborg and Rathburn want to blame McCann
Spoke too soon, Land.
Ah well..atleast we held them scoreless till the 4th inning
I don’t think McCann liked that pitch
Batting runners in scoring position in??? What is this foreign concept? I am not familiar with it.
Does anyone have a stat on how many games this season (or in our current slump) we allow the other team to score first? It has to be around 18 of the last 20 games.
McDowell is suggesting an out here.
Sometimes home cooking just ain’t enough. Jorge has to hold them here.
I blame Torborg for over thinking from the announcers both
We’ve got to respond next inning. We can’t make Towers look like The Rocket out there.
three run inning for the Braves
I’m live blogging this game..just to vent my frustrations a different way today..
If we can get 7 runs against Schilling and the Bo Sox pen, we can get a few here.
If we can’t score of Josh Towers..we might have to cancel the rest of the season
Those two runs should be chalked to Chipper for that screwed up double. If the Braves don’t at least tie in the next two innings, this is another loss.
WOW! Who has Andruw? Good Work!
Holy Hell. That was a long shot. Maybe that will get things going.
Wow, that ball was CRUSHED!
What did I tell you folks? Check out post #34. This adoption thing may be working, Smitty…
Atta’ boy Andruw.
Here we go..some offense…
I have pete orr, so I’ll be able to help in about 2 more innings.
And McCann continues to be one of the best hitters in the entire FREAKING game.
McCann actually batted 8th about a week ago.
I want to adopt McCann…but in real life
You need to talk to your boy Smitty.
My bad guys. I told him to take a few pitches
Stupid Jeff. He’d swing at a beach ball that fell from the bleachers. It did look like he beat the throw to first though.
Is it my imagination or is Frenchy actually looking a little more selective at the plate today? Not a good result but a decent at bat for him.
Half step at 1st.
Daniel, just be glad he took 3 pitches that at bat.
what is is with francoeur and his speed? he seems fast but no steals and….that. i dont understand
Ok, who has laroche?
Does anyone have a stat on how many games this season (or in our current slump) we allow the other team to score first?
Opponents have scored first in 13 of the last 17 games played.
A double play and a strike out…yep, these are my Braves..
well we got one back. Now we need to hold them until Andruw and McCann hit again
Thanks OneEye. I actually would have guessed more, but 13 of 17 is still pathetic.
Sosa has one trouble inning per start. Maybe it’s out of the way.
Reed Johnson? Good grief.
I spoke too soon.
The patented “give the opposing team the run back immediately”… It’s becoming an art form
Torborg just compaired Reed Johnson to Albert Puljos.
WTF, I step away for 30 seconds and he gives the run right back?
its almost become a requirement
I loved when Torbog noted that Renteria made an out because he didn’t hit the ball with the sweet spot of the bat..
He’ll be here all night folks… (sadly)
Sosa needs to go back to walking people.
Sosa need to go back to the Devil Rays
Think they’ll pinch hit for Sosa next inning anyone?
Sosa is still better than Paranto
I still can’t believe the ATLANTA BRAVES, the pitching-dominant Braves, continue to roll out a guy who’s 1-9.
That just amazes me.
I’m thinking Cox will try to get one more inning out of Sosa.
Why isn’t James up here pitching for Sosa? He is availible to come up now.
Time for Thor to do something.
Brad he is 1-9 because we can’t give him any run support.
He would have at least 3 more wins if our hitters could drive in runs.
THAT’S why you run that shit out! Take notes, Hudson!
Wow, way to keep his eye on the play. Can’t believe he took second on that.
Right, but 4-9 isn’t that great either.
Agreed Lando, the record is deceiving.
Congratulations, Scott Thorman! Your first time on base.
Good bunt, Jorge, you freaking Devils Rays loser. My gosh.
Thorman is slow
That’s DEVIL rays
Wow, Thorman is slow.
Way to help yourself out Sosa.
We are allergic to breaks.
You’d think the guy could atleast lay down a bunt..
That’s a run given up, plus the one when laroche couldn’t advance the runners. Adam Laroche and Sosa–go away.
Have we never seen a breaking ball before?
Swing Marcus Swing
I think we are going to break a record for fouling pitches off
Do we not have scouts?
Torborg is spitting filth tonight..
Well Sosa didn’thave to run bases
True, Smitty, but we never asked him to.
434ft on Andruw’s homer, wow.
Don’t you get the feeling that this team is dead, and that all it would take to wake them up is for JS to do SOMETHING? My gosh, make SOME kind of move and I think the players would respond.
Now, they plod along, waiting for a spark.
DO SOMETHING PLEASE.
We have some brain dead local guys here on tv and they’re giving commentary on the Braves..
And the schmuck’s first observation was why Betemit isn’t getting atleast a shot over at first…and that he would be an immediate upgrade over Brian Jordan..
If that mole can see it…why can’t Bobby..
Floodgates may open now…
Red Sox lost three before us, now the Blue Jays lost three before us…we’re the remedy for other teams.
He’s on HGH and Roids, someone give Glaus a roid test after the game.
Remember how the Marlins were on a losing streak and we snapped them out of it.. Houston was struggling before we played them..
And remember Arizona’s offense was stuck in neutral coming into the series against us
We are so bad, I keep waiting for Dale Murphy to come up to hit
Gotta love McCann trying to spark something.
Im gald no one caught that
Good play, Chipper. Glad you’re still around and someone better is on the bench.
Chipper and Thorman have the combined speed of my grandmother
We need to play a team that has won 10 in a row
Betemit is no Chipper, brad.
HE ONLY RAN TO FIRST TORBORG!
After we play them..they’ll have won 13 in row..
Yeah, he has a higher batting average and plays at least the same defense, plus he’s young, hungry, faster, and cheaper.
You take chipper.
McCann is my hero.. and I’m not joking now..
I have to say, my motivational tactics have worked quite well on Andruw tonight.
Maybe that was the spark we needed.
OMG, I want to have McCanns babys.
All this because Chipper tried to make a play in LF. Betemit wouldn’t have gotten that either.
I think that the problem is that the rest of you are still at “Bargaining” or “Anger”. I’m moving from “Depression” to “Acceptance”.
I’m tired of Chipper. He hasn’t been spectacular since around 2000, looks bored, and hasn’t EVER stepped up as a team leader.
I don’t hate him, and he’s still decent, but this team needs guys who at least APPEAR to care about what’s going on (mccann), and Betemit shows that a lot more than Chipper.
I would love to have both Betemit and Chipper in the line-up (if it weren’t for the OUTSTANDING seasons of Laroche and Giles), but choosing Betemit over Chipper is hasty.
But we’ll agree to disagree.
Rathburn just said, “Pendelton’s big knockers”
Chumper is beyond abysmal defensively. The guy has the range and reaction time of a turtle on quaaludes.
That’s why we keep him around, guys.
Pop up kings tonight
We’re making Towers look like an actuall pitcher..
I guess I’m most frustrated with Chip b/c his power numbers and defense have disappeared, and those were really the only things he had that were superb.
Keep it up, Mccann, and you’ll be batting 7th soon.
Jesus Mcann is freaking amazing.
I’ll take a good contact hitter (which is what Chipper has demonstrated this year) in front of a solid power hitter (what Andruw is supposed to be). Our problems in the heart of the order can mainly be attributed to Andruw’s slump.
Hey, a seeing eye single! We’re due, I’ll take it.
Time for their pen
Well we knocked cy young out…how’s their bullpen?
Minus Andruw’s monster shot tonight I should say.
Haha this guy looks like a girl
Pinch hit for LaRoche against the lefty?
Uh oh, Bert’s up. Pick up your boy.
I thought the same, Brad.
With who? Orr?
Laroche is the only 1st baseman we have with Jordan out.
Let’s just get a flyball from Adam. Just a freakin fly ball.
YES. Okay, now DON’T bunt.
Did we just catch a break?
Wild pitch on the first pitch? When did Downs become a Brave?
Rob no he’s not. Thorman is actually a 1st baseman.
This guy looks like a Sarah.
We had one a few innings ago and didn’t do jack with it. Problem is, we keep getting guys on base (mccann, francoeur) for laroche and thorman and sosa.
On the bench I mean, Lando.
Ground out there is just as good as a sac fly. We will take that for sure.
Laroche didn’t screw up!
Get him the ball. His first hit. Thor!
AAHH…we’re tied…my head’s going to explode now
Who has Thorman? Good job!
Thor comes through!
Way to be, Scotty!
My new favorite superhero, Thor-Man!
He plays first? Ok, time for laroche or jordan to go away.
THOR!@!@!!!!!! WELCOME TO THE BIG LEAGUES BIG GUY
You could still hit for Laroche and move Thorman to first. I don’t think that’s too complicated for Bobby.
Kind of odd to see Bobby send a left handed Orr in there
Damn I hate Orr. But good inning otherwise!
A battle of the bullpens. Gulp.
I hate pete tonight, my bad guys.
You’re PETE ORR, for crying out loud. That’s all we expect, buddy.
You’ll get ’em next week.
They’re just building up hope to pull the rug out from under us again. I have nothing left after Sunday Night.
that was I HAD pete
Jordan platooning 1st with Laroche is way less practical than Franco and Laroche. Maybe Thorman can personally hand Jordan his walking papers.
Mac, I was at that game, and let me assure you–not one person in that stadium thought the lead was safe. You could feel the tension in the air.
And that was with a 2-run lead. We’re only tied here.
Sunday was definitely tough to swallow, Mac. I’m glad I had to miss the end.
stockman in, guess I’m up…..c’mon Phil! dont be Reeksma!
So who’s uglier, Stockman or McBride?
Sunday was brutal….I was physically sick
Can’t get Reed Freaking Johnson out…wow.
apples and oranges, Rob
Paronto’s pretty ugly too…
Phil needs you, Lance.
Nothing like a lead-off double to get the Jays going again…
some things are beyond help
WOW. That was a strike.
Pull him now, Bobby
Bobby, wake up and take him out NOW
Torborg is sharp tonight folks..
Explaining that it’s good to have defined roles for the people in your bull-pen. You won’t ge commentary like this anywhere else…
The Curse of Reitsma.
We are never ever going to win another game, are we?
Not anytime soon Alex
Maybe we can squeak one by the Devil Rays.
Maybe Wells can steal home now too..
why don’t we let him steal home too, guys
The best part?
We guided the Red Sox through their losing streak and now we are gently helping the Blue Jays through there’s.
We’re like f-ng therapy for everyoone’s ills in Baseball.
The Braves have become Dr. Melfi.
Big strikeout. One more Phil.
Alex, absolutely not. We’re going 30-132.
I’m not really kidding.
lets load the bases and give up a grand slam
And sticking with the therapy theme, I was telling my wife about BravesJournal and how it’s become like giant group therapy for depressed, suicidal Braves fans.
That could have been uglier. Unlike Stockman.
I’ll help you through this game if you pick me up tomorrow, Alex.
Hopefully Sarah is still pitching, she was sweet.
DId anyone just see that commerical with Jeff Fisher? That was great!
But letting Eddie George go was a good move
I have decided that the reason Smoltz can’t close anymore is because he has worn his arm out trying to start up that damned lawnmower during the Home Depot commercial.
By the way, speaking of Smoltz, I love how excited Jon Miller & Joe Morgan got during the Sunday Night ESPN Braves/Sox telecast talking about Smoltz in the Bosox rotation, and of course it turns out the rumors of dealing Snoltz are bogus.
If there was EVER more proof that Morgan hates us and anytime he can try & embarrass this team on National Television, that jagoff is happy to oblige.
Speier? How did we let him go?
Morgan doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Even with a computer dictating what he says in MLB 2K5 and 2K6, he says the stupidest shit.
Answer.. Error by the shortstop.
Question.. What’s the only way Marcus can get on base?
Sarah? Who’s Sarah?
have people finally followed up with my Judy reitsma theme and started naming Braves relief pitchers with girl’s names?
So, Sarah Stockman? Is that it?
(Sorry…just logged on if I missed a whole convo)
Error by the defensive replacement? Maybe we are playing the Braves.
The BJs had a feminine looking reliever who gave us three. He looked like a Sarah to me.
Time for a failed bunt attempt.
I love renteria
If I hear one more story about JS signing his damned book at the Ted in the midst of losing 17 of 20, then you will have to try and yanke me off the ledge!
and yeah Edgar!!!!
Now guys…could we please win a game now???
Pretty please with sugar on top????
They keep getting our hopes up… !!! another run
I call Carmen Villareal, then.
Ok, fellow bloggers…raise your keyboards if you would like to see this team we call the “Braves” win a game?
that might be the worst at bat i’ve ever seen
walking andruw to pitch to mccann?
is bobby managing the jays?
We need volunteer names for:
Now keep that hand raised if you think this offense and bullpen can do it.
(Keyboard comes down)
How about Rene Cormier?
That was sadly funny and depressing :-(
So, Stockman only gave up one run? I’m not sure he’s going to fit in with the Braves.
Oh, yeah, if nobody wants him, I’ll take McDowell.
I love it—Rene Cormier it is!
After sunday, chad paronto doesnt even deserve a woman’s name. He is no-name to me. From now on, he is The Pitcher I Do Not Speak Of.
I call Chelsea Paronto.
Mcdowell is yours. Yeesh!
We still need volunteer names for
How about Martina McBride? (Or are there any fans of hers here?)
Chelsea Paronto it is though I may have gone with “Bertha” or “Rosie”
Don’t swing, Jeff!
TOld you guys he would walk
love it, brian
Not a fan but I like it…martina it is.
and Mary Remlinger.
Now who wants to name Kenny Ray?
2-3 with a walk, hw will go deep in his next AB
good move here
Oh, and that’s “Walk Away” Renee Cormier. [/BERMAN]
I’ll have McDowell tell our guys not to suck.
The 2006 Atlanta Braves new bullpen:
actually, it looks the the jays’ pen has all the woman.
those guys look stupid
Good call on Carmen.
Diaz is gonna crush this guy
Ouch. That hurts.
good AB matt
How did Francouer bat twice?
Can we not give up anymore runs
you mean, “crush on him” since he looks girly seeing as he just struck out :-(
I would go just to hit on Rachel Ray!
Villareal reminded me of Carmen Electra- one outstanding statistic (in Villareal’s case, seven wins) disguising a lack of talent.
I left out Sarah Stockman…she has joined that group too.
We forgot Yates! Quick, someone think of a name for him!
It’s odd because she’s so damned perky, but I have to admit, I find Rachel Ray (the real one of course) kinda sexy.
Oh Yes…Tyler Yates…anyone?
We can take a vote on Yates. Katie Yates maybe?
See told ya Thorman can play 1st. Now we will see what our future would be like without The Roach
Ok, Beverly or Katie…everyone vote now!
The Braves have watched too much soccer this week. We need to be ahead to win guys!
Tyra seems a bit off…I think Beverly has a nice ring to it? No?
Ooo, Tyra is a good suggestion.
bobby always looks so perplexed that these relievers aren’t any good.
I’ll back Beverly.
I have imagined the Braves having a life without LaRoche for 3 years now and every day, I wake up and it’s the same damn groundhog nightmare over & over because he just keeps showing up—like that stupid groundhog.
Someone get me Bill Murray.
2 votes for Beverly
2 Votes for Tyra
1 vote for Katie
Triple-A Yates. wait thats not a female name
This shit is getting too predictable
Alex. Rachel Ray is not sexy. She is scary. The other Food Channel chicky, the Italian one that doesnt blink. She’s scary too in a Stepford Wife sort of way.
In New York, all we do is contemplate how to kill Rachel Ray and not get caught.
As for Tyler Yates. Tell the guys in the bleachers to yell “Incoming!” and duck.
Sleep with Andie MacDowell and you’ll be cured. You may have to settle for Roger though.
No, it’s not life w/out laroche, it’ll be life w/our thorman as soon as our ‘veteran leader’ jordan heals
I’ll vote for Tyra Yates.
ok, brooklynlou, that’s a bit scary.
Hey…I agree she’s annoyingly perky but she’s kinda sexy to me. But hey…she’s no Kate Beckinsale or Ashley Juddy.
Yates sucks. Exactly what has he done that qualifies him to pitch in the 8th inning of a tie game?
if we give up a run here, i’m killing myself
Brad, to quote Woody Harrelson, “This is no time to be messin’ with my fantasies.”
Hmmm…Andie McDowell can be Roger’s new name!!!!
what have any of our guys done to show they should still be in the major leagues? who would you rather see, martina or mary?
Exchange oxygen with carbon dioxide, Jeremy.
Here goes Bobby & his stupid intentional walks.
It seems like the polls have closed and while I appreciated the support for Beverly we are a Democracy:
Welcome to the bullpen, Tyra Yates.
But “Incoming!” can be HER new nickname!
he’s putting in The Pitcher I Do Not Speak Of.
Alright Paronto… the therapy session we “enjoyed” earlier today better work.
NO NOT PARANTO!
Smitty, brad, be cool, be cool. (Cosby voice)
Paronto’s got this. I won’t let him fail.
Explain why the intentional walk is stupid. You have to set up the double play or a force at the plate.
Come on Chelsea.
I think Bobby’s “thought” process here is that Chelsea can’t possibly be that bad twice in a row.
My head hurts with all the choices of people to blame when we lose this game…JS? Chelsea? Bobby?
THe only reason Paranto is in is so a line drive hit so har that maybe it get to Frenchy quick so the run own’t score?
I’d rather see McBride. He’s a better pitcher. I know he blew it the other night, but he’s still a better option than this stiff.
New FULL Bullpen:
he ‘thought’ that for 2 months with reitsma
I’m with you, Jeremy. Unless he screws up here, in which case, I’m definitely against you.
tell my wife i love her, guys
Oh…and Chelsea Paronto.
There’s just so many craptastic chicks in there.
Like clockwork… ugh
Such is the level to which we have sunk that I’m glad that was only one run.
Oh so predictable.
Francoeur, has a cannon….
Hell of a throw for Frenchy. Let’s get the run back.
Don’t you dare run on Frenchy!!
after much thought, I have decided to blame cox. paronto obviously sucks, as evidenced by his 6-run gem the other night. JS is obviously still incapacitated in his season-long coma. Bobby’s the only one who can do something about this by not bringing him in.
Thank God Frenchy’s accuracy is back!
I’m back from watching Livan Hernandez suck. And I see we’re losing. How has my adoptee (Marcus) done?
Frenchy, my boy!
Without me picking up Paronto, that’s a grand slam. Be thankful I worked with him so much today.
I realize you’re setting up the double play, but you’re also giving your crappy relievers that can’t throw strikes no margin for error. Oh, and you’re putting another baserunner out there. Like we need that. I’ve seen that philosophy burn us more times than not.
Nice throw, French.
Nice play! Although every time I see McCann so much as fall down I cringe.
For here am I sitting in my tincan…
Three things about that play:
Vernon Wells is now an honorary Brave for swinging at the first pitch of a known incompetent.
Jeff Francoeur’s accuracy is back.
Brian McCann is, if not God, one of the high archangels.
Thank God for Jeff’s arm because his plate selection still sucks.
to be fair, he has 2 hits tonight.
is it weird that I kind of expected bobby to let paronto hit instead of betemit?
Thorman, like his brethren, out on first pitch swinging.
Might as well make it an intentional walk if they’re going to walk anyway.
Thor just wants to get back out in the field and watch another crappy reliever give up a run
we need some of what the WhiteSox have….They are beating the Cards 19-2 in the top of the seventh(21 hits)…you see ladies thats how you hit
disappointing; Thorman has a good walk rate, in the minors. Just keep doing what got you here, dude.
offense not really the problem. 12 runs in the last 2 games, but we’ve given up 16 and counting, and most of those in the 7th/8th/9th innings
Take notes Marcus…that’s how you get on base.
Hmmm..if Betemit keeps getting on base..Bobbly will never put him in the starting line-up
I’m convinced the White Sox sold their souls to the Devil.
Nope, the sox just have a GM that cares about the team/fans and a manager that doesn’t sleepwalk through the season.
Any votes for Betemit to steal?
Heat up by 1 at the half. Dallas almost deserves to lose after all the whining they’ve done. I can understand Cuban whining – that’s what he does. But Avery Johnson needs to get a grip.
Thor is probably still anxious and adjusting. He’ll get the hang of it.
Some guy in the stands has a rally cap on.. He’s going to get his hopes destroyed like a Reitsma fastball
oh…and amen to you Jeremy. Go Heat (Iby default).
anything to see jerkoff Cuban lose.
Giles does walk a lot. I wish he were doing better, and he can. But telling him to watch Betimet walk so he can learn makes no sense; look at their relative walk rates; Marcus is much more selective than Wilson.
I kinda like Cuban. He’s over the top, but he wants to win and does what it takes.
I miss those days.
Brad…Yeah, I wish Cubes ran the Braves but as a die hard Spurs fan, I hate his guts.
Marcus has had some good at bats lately.
As has been mentioned here in the past, can you imagine how many more first-place finishes we’d have if we didn’t have a GM who “cared” or a manager who didn’t “sleepwalk” through season?
In fact, we’d probably be undefeated.
I was just being sarcastic..
I’ll shut up now
AH SHIT! Ryan time
don’t start, ububba. if you think JS gives a crap about this team, you’re sadly mistaken. He’s had YEARS to fix a problem that my 6 year old cousin is aware of and has done nothing but write a book.
Bobby? well, he just brought in chad paronto late in a tie game, the same move he made 2 days ago, when the guy gave up 6 RUNS.
so spare me the ‘these guys know what they’re doing’ stuff.
My boy’s up. I’ll tell him to make Ryan work.
maybe Schuerholz can get in touch with the Devil and work out a deal. I hope JS enjoyed his mohitos at the poolside while he was writing his book during the offseason because he sure didnt lift a finger to help the team this year and I bet next year will be the same as he will be writing his sequel.
I am glad they could show us the glory days
Oh man, I just looked up Ryan’s numbers:
0.53 ERA, 0.62 WHIP, .128 BAA
Maybe we can trade Paranto to Satan for a closer
Trade for a closer? Smitty, you obviously don’t know our GM.
We have Ray! Who needs a closer?
So that’s what Renteria looked like last year
I hope we can tire Ryan out.
Ok, I want to pitch
Brad…I am with you…i just can’t do the Schuerholz dance with ububba right now…not in the mood as we crawl to another loss.
as a fan, I guess I am happy we will not have an ambiguous season, where people can buck and shuffle around making some hard decisions and some changes. A 72-90 season with attendance below 2,000,000 will force some changes at the top, I think.
I don’t know, Smitty. We didn’t even pick out a girl’s name for you.
People always say if its not the pitching, its the hitting–I say, if it’s not JS, it’s Bobby.
JS has given him NOTHING to work with, and yet he still makes boneheaded moves (paronto).
has Giles ever advanced a runner with an out?
well we knew with sosa it’d be a battle of the bullpens, and we’d lose that battle to a decent high school team.
Double play ball…
Geez, Giles and Diaz looked bored on that one.
Game over. Even if it’s a one run game, B.J. Ryan is too good.
And the Marlins and Mets won.
I’m not going to engage you other than to say that I can count to 14. That’s my evidence. I mean, they couldn’t possible know what they’re doing, right? All they have is a body of work that’s never been done in the history of professional sports. Ever. Not once. Not ever.
So…if you wanna overreact to the failings of this season or the minutiae of a game on a Tuesday night in June, be my guest.
I was going to be depressed we lost on a night where they atarted a guy with an ERA of 9.00, until I realized we trotted out a guy with a 1-9 record. The resistable force met the movable object, and our guy lost.
I don’t know, Dan, even good closers have a tough time going more than 1 inning. Plus we have the heart of the order up.
Even if we just tie, we have the upperhand since we knocked out their ace.
We are intentionsally walking Gregg Zaun??/
P.S.: Todd Pratt better not pinch hit for McCann just because Ryan is left-handed.
If Pratt pinch hits for McCann, I give up for the year.
Zaun wouldve killed McBride…go for Adams he is an easy out
Chipper needs to get on and Andruw needs to go yard
Or get my boy Frenchy up to live up to my prediction
Heart of the order comin’ up. Lets see what we got.
Finally a reliever did not give up a run.
If we score two, the pen can’t blow it
well i hope the last 14 years help you cope with the fact that the entire organization quit on this season in may, ububba.
It would be nice if Chipper just hit a home run right off the bat so there was no worry.
Also my vote goes for Beverly Yates.
This just in, Kenny Ray to pinch hit for Chipper.
Here we go…get ready to be disapointed…again…..lets go ladies!!
“Finally a reliever did not give up a run.”
F-ing pathetic, Chumper.
Congrats, blue jays fans. Your GM got you a closer.
Might not mean much in the AL EAST, but at least your management acts like they care.
way to go, Chipper.
Lets go Andruw
wait, we can’t knock chipper. he was good in 1999, so that means he gets a bye from now on.
I think everyone is just frustrated. As a Braves fan, you got used to a certain level of success during the regular season, and a certain level of failure during the postseason. When you have that for 14 years, there is a certain level of reliability in that, and now, when it all goes bad, well, I think it’s a natural human reaction to be a little bitter.
Our other hero.
Well, at least McCann is hitting. God, this is depressing.
Ugh, our bullpen did it again. Why hast thou forsaken us, Schuerholz? Get some help before a wildcard spot is dead!
wildcard heart, meet stake. That one is dead, my friend.
We need to go “Marlins” on the league.
No, I don’t mean win..ahem..9 in a row (thought that’d be nice–we simply can’t). Sell everyone, save McCann, Frenchy and Betemit.
It’s too bad we traded Marte to make a run this year, even with Renteria playing reasonably well.
bah….maybe hudson can throw a complete game tommorow and we maybe just maybe win a game
See, JS, this is what it means to have a closer. The other teams look defeated in the 9th before he even has to throw a pitch.
Compare that to your offseason, when between writing pages of ‘built to win’, you sat by the pool and let reitsma be our closer, working just the opposite.
Built For Last Place, Behing the $20-million Marlins.
I like that title better, jackass.
Ahh yes this is getting oh so familiar.
another day…another loss.
Thanks bullpen…aka…’The Dixie Chicks’.
I’ve passed the bargaining stage. I can’t wait for acceptance.
“as evidenced by his 6-run gem the other night.”
Three of those runs belonged to McBride.
I’m still deeply rooted in depression…
if we dont win tommorow expect to get swept at home again….this may be the last 2 braves games I watch this year :(
They belonged to him, but paronto still gave them up.
Sorry, guys. My boy ended it. Kindof creepy since at my softball game last night I made the last out of the game with my team losing 6-5 with no one on base (and I had had a pretty good game at the plate). Maybe I should have mentioned to McCann that he should have done better than I did…
To paraphrase the late Lewis Grizzard, “Sometimes they hang GMs in effigy. This year, we’ll be hanging one at Turner Field as well.”
Hudson v. Lilly tomorrow. Hudson had better be ready to go nine.
wow what a bullpen
So has METS FAN started posting under the nom de guerre of brad? Lighten up, man. Your vitriol is getting old.
“They belonged to him, but paronto still gave them up.”
Well, yeah. But McBride still walked two people. That to me is unacceptable. But yeah, they both suck in my opinion.
But McBride did give up one right? On a single over Renteria after he walked two in a row.
If we had $47 Million to spend on a closer like Toronto did, I’m sure it would’ve been considered.
McBride walked two the other night also. That is a bad habit.
So who here thinks we should have wasted a 5/47 contract on BJ Ryan with our payroll structure? My hand is down on that one.
The way he is pitching, I’d gladly dump Giles (and let Betemit play second) to free up the money to have Ryan (remember our payroll is currently something like seven million under the cap, so we have room.)
I wouldn’t have either, jenny. However, I’m not of the JS philososphy to just pick up random stiffs, throw ’em together with some young guys & call it a bullpen. Chris Reitsma is the only reliever that makes over a million bucks. That’s disturbing.
You know what, y’all are right. I’m out.