Pitcher Injury
The announcement that Hurston Waldrep needs Tommy John (RIP) surgery and that Spencer Schwellenbach needs to reconstruct his just-reconstructed elbow, along with Spencer Strider‘s stop-and-start recovery from, well, exactly from what is not entirely certain, has led to a search for scapegoats. I am not just talking about our new insect overlords, who has never seen a Braves management decision he likes (feel free to disagree, my friend, but bring references) but from others such as Td, who opined today:
I believe Atlanta’s number 1 priority going forward should be a pitching coach or simply a training program throughout the entire organization that minimizes arm injuries I know injuries will happen but we have to do better. I think the Reds are doing a pretty good job with addressing injuries. Why spend so much money on getting elite arms if we can’t keep them healthy?
First, “number 1 priority” is, I presume, hyperbole. I mean, I get the sentiment, but there are, I think, higher priorities.
Second, can you minimize arm injuries and maintain an effective pitching staff? I honestly don’t know the answer to that question. Even if Td is right and there is some secret sauce here, I don’t want Cincinnati’s pitching staff, especially given the fact that their obviously best pitcher, Hunter Greene, had his second Tommy John surgery two weeks ago and will be racing Waldrep to see who gets back first.
As to “getting elite arms and … keep[ing] them healthy,” I offer the two-time defending champion LA Dodgers. They’re obviously shopping in a different aisle, but between Ohtani, Snell, Kershaw (pre-retirement), Glasnow, Diaz, etc., etc. you can have a very successful pitching staff and team without any particular ability to keep really good pitchers healthy.
Finally, though, I haven’t seen any evidence that the Braves organization is actually any worse at this than any other organization. To be fair, I haven’t been looking for that evidence and I’m not sure where I’d go to find it. (There is a Tommy John surgery database with 2719 entries and which will add Waldrep soon as #2720. I think there’s a whole lot you’d have to control for to turn that into a study differentiating franchise competence, and as far as I know no one has done it.) We know that modern every-pitch-at-115% usage causes injury, and that a lot of those injuries are year-plus recoveries and some guys are unable to recover despite the miracles of Tommy John surgery and its offshoots.
I don’t want to sound callous, or be callous for that matter. I don’t mean to suggest that surgical alteration is the price you pay to be a good major league pitcher. It might be right in individual cases, probably not predictable in advance, but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try to create conditions that reduce injuries. But as far as I know, (a) nobody knows what those conditions are (there are some tantalizing hints dealing with pitcher education, but it’s nothing close to demonstrated yet); and (b) if those conditions materially reduced the effectiveness of pitchers, the imposition of those conditons is not a stable equilibrium. I just heard Walt Weiss say something I agree with: “You know what makes managing a pitching staff hard? When they aren’t very good.”
Pennant Race
The Rockies and Angels have 83 losses, tied for the most in MLB. They are playing the Braves and Phillies. Losing teams lose in interesting ways, sometimes, and the Phillies won last night on a two-out pinch-hit grand slam in the 9th. Just win, baby.
Denver
I was never a big John Denver fan. He of course wasn’t born in Colorado, and Denver was not his real name (he was born Henry John Deutschendorf Jr.) There are varied stories about why he chose Denver, and many of them have nothing to do with Colorado at all. While Rocky Mountain High was his signature song during his lifetime, he is today ubiquitous for Take Me Home, Country Roads, a song about a different mountain range entirely. The Rockies get no respect.
Hunting and Fishing Day
Really? Stick to your knitting, boys.
The Lineup
Dubón was back at short, and Dominic Smith was slotted as the DH in the 9 hole. There is something odd about putting your DH in the 9 hole. Through last year, 7/10ths of 1 percent of ninth-hole plate appearances (in games with a DH) have been made by DHs.
The Game
Putative Rockies starting pitcher Ryan Feltner came down with the proverbial flu-like symptoms, indicative either of a night out in Atlanta (“Both of them. Count it”) or a salad with dodgy lettuce. The final possibility, that he just didn’t want to face Atlanta, is rejected out of hand. He is too important to the Rockies playoff push.
So instead they went with a bullpen game, starting with Zach Agnos, who gave up no runs in two+ innings of work, eliminating my ability to make a ‘lamb to the slaughter’ joke. He was followed by Zach Nick Frasso, who was Dodger property until the trade deadline. I hope he hadn’t already spent that sweet playoff money, though he’d spent the season up to now in Oklahoma City. The good news? You’re in The Show. The bad news? You’re on the worst team in the majors in the worst stadium for pitchers. He emerged unscathed. Frasso was followed by Brennan Bernardino, who worked a scoreless fifth. He was replaced by Jimmy ‘Duelling Banjos’ Herget, who mowed down Acuña, Olson and Dubón on 10 pitches.
On the home side, Martin Perez dominated through five and then forgot how to pitch in the sixth, though he only gave up one run, being rescued with the bases loaded by Brent Suter, who then worked a scoreless 7th.
So we arrived at the bottom of the 7th trailing 1-0 for Herget’s second inning of work. Time to get serious. Harris led off with an infield single. At that point, Ozzie hit a foul ball off umpire Ron Kulpa’s mask that staggered him. After an extended period of evaluation, Kulpa left the game which led to a substantial delay (during which they played “Take Me Home, Country Roads.”) Herget then hit Ozzie, leading to two on and nobody out. Yaz hit into a double play, leading to Jaden Hill entering to pitch. He walked Riley who stole second, but Lane Thomas struck out to end the threat. I’m in the Berkshires, and I heard Roger yell from up here.
After another scoreless inning from Suter, we find out why bad teams are bad. With two outs, Olson singled (off the wall) Dubón singled to make it first-and-third. Harris sent a ball into the gap that centerfielder Cole Carrigg (last seen making bad coffee) almost made a great play on. That tied the game, but the decision by the left-fielder to throw to second to try and get Harris instead of throwing home to keep the game tied backfired when Harris was safe and Dubón came home without a throw. Unless you are absolutely certain you have Harris, you have to throw home there. (I would note that Dubón went through a stop sign. Fine him?)
Didier Fuentes for the save. After an opening walk (just for the sake of agita) and a strikeout, a single made it first-and-second and one out (as the agita level rises and the Alka-Seltzer comes out). Zac Veen‘s and Didier Fuentes‘ lives graphically overlapped at this point. (Same basic joke two days in a row.) Veen struck out. A flyout ended it.
81 wins. A losing season is now impossible. Going for consecutive sweep deux tomorrow.

Dodgers lose, Braves now in bye spot.
Not only yet another stellar recap, JonathanF, but once again posted within minutes of game’s end. We appreciate you!
We’re on a plane returning from a week in Colorado. The Colorado Rockies baseball team may suck, but the Colorado Rocky Mountains are still spectacular. The city and state deserve better. But as a Braves fan I’ll take it.
In the eighth I started wondering how common six-(or more)-pitcher shutouts are, as Colorado was not far from completing one. Seems like the more different pitchers you use, the higher your chances should be of using one who just doesn’t have it that day and gets rocked immediately. Jonathan, is that something you can easily search for? I suppose they would’ve been a bit more common before the three-batter minimum.
Not counting All Star Games, there have been three shutouts using nine pitchers:
Last year the Royals shut out the Braves 1-0 using 9 pitchers: https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/KCA/KCA202507300.shtml
The Padres shut out the Cardinals in a Wild Card game using nine pitchers: https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SDN/SDN202010020.shtml
In 2016, the Indians shut out the Tigers 1-0 in a nine pitcher effort in which Cookie Carrasco was the starting pitcher: https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CLE/CLE201609170.shtml
There are 197 shutouts (before this year) using 6 or more pitchers
Thanks, Jonathan. 197 was more than I had expected. The Carrasco game (10 innings) was a truly unplanned bullpen game, as the leadoff batter (second pitch of the game) hit a line drive off the little finger of his pitching hand, breaking it and knocking him out for the what was left of the season.
For all the kvetching about pitching, the Braves have seen this before (see Hanson, Jurrjens, Soroka, Wright, Foltynewicz, Medlen, Beachy, Wright, etc…). They draft pitching and have a lot coming in the minors. But 2 runs is not enough and my screams would have been louder if my grandson hadn’t been in the house. For a lineup that is supposed to be great, this one has very little bite. We need hitters and the pitching will be fine.
Maybe it’s better with Murphy and Kim.
Roger breaking out the Sam Hutchinson vocabulary.
“Cole Carigg (last seen making bad coffee).” Took me a second. 🙂
Thanks for addressing the injury issue. Maybe we just got lucky with Mazzone (it helps to have 3 Hall of Famers), but Camp Leo seemed like there was something to it.
I know I’m likely overstating the injury problem and I know it’s not a simple fix, but it seems that more can be done across the MLB. With technology, greater study of mechanics, the focus on proper rest and pitch counts, it is just sad that pitching injuries are at an all time high – even with a greater velocity and max effort pitching it seems like it should be better. Actually Cincy used to brag about how they prevent injuries, but I don’t think they’ve done anything special lately. The Phillies seem to be doing the best of anyone.
https://www.mlb.com/amp/news/mlb-releases-report-on-pitcher-injuries-2024.html
The fact that everybody is working on this and yet the problem is still getting worse is a little disheartening. But whatever the best practice turns out to be, I have no reason to think the Braves won’t be as interested in the implementation as anyone else.
What if, after all that research and experimentation, the only practical solutions turned out to be asking many guys to throttle back on their FB and accept less movement on their higher-speed pitches?
Exactly JMac83 (and welcome!) And that will never happen, because there is no pitcher sufficiently dedicated to success that he would consciously reduce his chances of success to decrease a mere probability of injury. The guys worried about blowing out their arms retired after college.
Thank you, JonathanF. Peak Rocky Mountain recap.
From the mlb.com condensed game, it looks like Dubon had a fantastic defensive game at SS.
Danke.
According to Gemini AI, there goes our hope for Suarez:
Robert Suarez Placed on 15-day IL (Forearm tightness)Shut down from his mound progression; placed on the injured list.Sidelined through mid-September at minimum
I’m hoping that’s an AI hallucination. I haven’t seen any official or unofficial announcement of that news about Suarez.
Having said that, I’m trying not to get my hopes up too much. If he does pitch again this season, it’s hard to imagine he’d be as dominant as he was earlier. And it won’t be surprising if Suarez doesn’t make it back at all this year. But if Suarez does come back as anything like the guy from earlier this year, what a dominant bullpen this would be.
Yes, I think you’re right, Tfloyd. Please disregard my earlier Suarez post. My bad, should have checked.
Related to trade deadline acquisitions, it looks like we did really well. My ratings would be Mahle – A, Suter – A, Thomas -C
I think those grades are solid. Thomas is so meh not sure that trade really did anything for us, but I can see the C grade for now.
Still wish we would have spent for a legit bat but AA just doesn’t seem to make thse kinds of trades anymore.
Yes, AA would much rather hold onto his pitching prospects so they can eventually blow their arm out after accumulating a minuscule amount of value. I’m still ok with the strategy and much more so than Stampton, but I’m salty.
Is the Smucker’s guy really pitching today? I wonder if he takes Nuprin for pain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho-0KZO9La4
Lee still getting rocked. He’s tired and has been struggling since the All-Star Game. But no rethinking of his role.
It might be worth thinking about a minimal 15 day IL stint to get him rested. He has been less sharp his last several appearances.
Victor Mederos has really been a nice pickup off the waiver wire.
I know nothing about Justin Meccage, the Giants’ pitching coach, but his misuse of Mahle must have been something fierce. I plead guilty to looking at a guy’s stats and saying that’s what he is, ignoring the fact that a sharp eye might say: “Sure, but when he dumps the splitter (or whatever) he could be awesome.”
As to Mederos, well, we’re talking the Angels here. I’m as dubious about scrap-heap pickups as anyone, and it’s easy enough to name 10-12 who should have been left there. But somebody in the Braves office can spot potential in Mahle and Mederos that others don’t seem to spot. And one things about the Braves scrap heap pickups… the Braves are perfectly willing to move on after not seeing what they thought might be there…. with a few exceptions like Cookie Carrasco.
7 wins in a row, by a combined 9 runs. We are now actually OVER-performing our pythag (by 1 win).
Edit: By my count – since the ASG, 27 wins, and only 8 have been by more than 2 runs (the most recent one was on Aug 12). Keep your blood pressure meds and/or antacids handy.
Recapped.