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I don’t know what the rest of you did with your break, but I did three things, none of them pictured above. I played golf, I dealt with Ford over a busted transmission and I now know a lot about starters, bullpens and batting approaches this year. (Note there is no mention of the All Star Game.) On the assumption that you have no interest in the first two, I’ll move immediately to #3.
Unlike the stuff I did last time, these data are all from this year, current through the break. (This is one of my first efforts with my database that includes the current year, and I definitely needed a little more time to make it work.) The first chart breaks down teams sorted by the fraction of their runs they score against starters and the fraction they score against bullpens.

At this point, the amateur sabermetricians among you ought to eyeball this chart and say… “Boy, that regression line doesn’t look very robust.” And you’d be right. The second thing to note is that I’m not talking (yet) about the fraction of innings in which teams face starters and the bullpen. To answer AAR’s initial question, the Braves actually score slightly more runs against starters than relievers. But almost every team does… only those teams to the left of 0.5 score more against bullpens, and only Colorado does so a lot.
This shouldn’t be surprising. First, modern relief corps have lower runs per 9 innings pitched than starters (4.23 for starters, 3.76 for relievers). Second, starters pitch more innings than relievers (57% of all innings). So it’s perfectly natural that they give up more runs. But look again at the chart above. Although they pitch 57% of all innings, only a handful of teams score more than 57% of their runs against starters. Check out this graph:

In this graph, the red line is the 45-degree line where the two shares are equal. There’s a kind of interesting (at least to me) math point here. Starters have higher ERAs than bullpens. Starters work more innings than bullpens. Then why is it that almost nobody scores more efficiently against starters? The reason is that starters’ stints are determined by their performance. In those games in which starters go a long way, they are stopping runs. That is, they are only left in when they are efficient. While this is mostly true of individual bullpen pitchers as well (the three batter minimum being an obvious complicating factor), it is not true of bullpens in aggregate — they pitch as many innings as they need to to finish out the game, no matter how well or poorly they perform.
One last question: how important is pitch count? I tried to see if the number of pitches a team sees per batter manages to cut the number of innings a team sees from starters. Here are the results:

So, statistically, patience reduces the length of starter stints, but there are plenty of counterexamples. That said, you can’t score runs just by patience.

Individual teams may do better against individual pitchers by being patient, but patient teams do not score more (or less) runs than impatient ones. (For the statistically-minded, the R2 here is 0.005.)
One thing to note, besides the fact that these are simply a half-season’s data. None of this means, for example, that different approaches against different pitchers might not be very effective. It doesn’t mean that strategies against good starters might not be very different than strategies against bad ones. It doesn’t mean there’s a way to win games offensively that doesn’t involve walking, hitting, hitting with power and not striking out. It does mean that there may be strategies that, at the margins, generate a few runs, and maybe an extra win or two — and these may involve comparing starters with bullpens.
Francisco Lindor
New York Sportsworld has interrupted its focus on the World Cup to consider a statement from the Mets about players they are not willing to entertain offers on that did not include Francisco Lindor. Even ignoring this season, I think it’s easy to opine that Francisco Lindor would be a very helpful addition to the Braves. (With all due respect to Jim Jarvis, feel free to disagree.) Any deal with anyone other than the Dodgers would obviously require all kinds of financial shenanigans, but ignore that as well. In the comments, name a deal that you think that would interest both the Braves and the Mets.
The Washington Senators
Franchise relocations occupy odd places in fan’s heads. I have not surveyed this, but it seems even casual fans know that the Braves used to be in Milwaukee and Boston. The moves of the Giants and Dodgers, which happened almost 70 years ago, are still fighting words for some in New York. Montreal to Washington is still kind of fresh. The Seattle/Milwaukee transfer is memoryholed because the Pilots only lasted a year. But the move of the expansion Washington Senators (not the ones who became the Twins) to Texas in 1972 is one that I think people honestly are surprised to learn about.
The Game
Cal Quantrill returned to face his very brief (2 weeks) teammates from last year. In his eight innings of work in Atlanta, he earned his -0.5 WAR. I think he moved to Arlington just so he could wear number 44, which for some reason they wouldn’t let him wear in Atlanta. In 46 innings with the Rangers, he has managed 0.3 WAR.
The Braves pitched Chris Sale, who I would allow to wear 44a if he wanted to, which of course he doesn’t because he has class. He was returning from his rain-shortened outing last time out… well, that and a meaningless round-trip flight to Philadelphia.
Yaz has an elbow boo-boo, so the Braves called up Brewer Hicklen, which I thought was a lawfirm in Valdosta. He played on Sunday, hit 0.500 and slugged 0.750. I expect some regression.
After failing with two on in the 1st, Drake Baldwin got a two-out single to start the scoring in the second. Ozzie drove in Riley (who is batting 1.000 after one bat post-ASG) with another single and Quantrill was suddenly remembering what it was like to pitch in Atlanta. Olson walked to load the bases, but Harris grounded out to Quantrill, who after two innings had thrown 53 pitches, given up two runs and stranded five other runners.
The third inning saw only one hit, but in the fourth, a three-run Baldwin homer made it 5-0. An Olson supra-Chop shot made it 6-0 and Cal Quantrill, at one point a first-round draft pick (remember that, draft analyzers) was ready to leave town as he did a year ago.
He was replaced in the fifth by major league debut of Emiliano Teodo, the only major leaguer from Middle Earth (though there were rumors about Willie McGee). He gave up two more runs. Then Collyer gave up 4 runs in the seventh, and left a massive amount of trash around his locker when his brother visited. (Anyone who gets that reference gets Braves Journal free the rest of the year.)
12-0 after 7 was deemed to be room enough for the bullpen. Even Roger thought we’d scored enough. Sale’s final line: 0 runs, 2 hits, 0 walks, 6 Ks. Victor Mederos came in to mop up. He lost the shutout and his perfect 2026 ERA.
Austin Riley led off the 8th with a homer off Kyle Higashioka. The Riley problem is solved as long as we can convince the rest of MLB to pitch at 60 mph. Higashioka started to tire and cut his velocity in half, leading to the first RBIs by a pitcher in MLB since 2021 when Mederos knocked in two to make it 15-1. There have only been 15 plate appearances by pitchers since 2022. Mederos has not only the only RBI, he also has the only pitcher hit since the universal DH.
4:10 start tomorrow, MacKenzie Gore against Owen Murphy in his first major league start.

Super interesting. I had a question—if starters are more effective, why the higher ERA? And then you answered it. Bravo.
About Lindor, no, I do not think we would be much better with him, and certainly not $30 million dollars per season better or whatever he is paid. If we’re going to trade for a shortstop, it should be Abrams or Pena, and I wouldn’t do either one of those given the high cost.
Dubon can play SS as well as any of those and hit well enough. What we need is someone who lets Dubon play SS. That is a RHB to play LF or DH. There are a few obvious affordable options: Taylor Ward, Heliot Ramos and Casey Schmitt of the Giants, and…hear me out Jorge Soler. Buxton is out as long as the Twins contend.
Soler, I would reflexively reject except he has had the same pattern for several seasons: miserable first half, damn good second half. It worked for us in 2021 and 2024. He repeated it last season. You might get him for just cash.
I’m expecting AA to make an AA move here which is thrifty but positive EV. A trade for an elite SS is too expensive for his tastes.
P.S.: none of this is to dismiss what Jim Jarvis has been doing, which is not a fluke. He is a GOOD looking hitter. His timing is excellent. He hits against a firm front side and really puts a charge into the ball for a smaller guy. If it were me, I would be fine cutting HSK loose and letting Mateo, Dubon, and Jarvis man short.
I am in the same place Stampton. If Jarvis and Hicklen help, we are back to pitching. I just read speculation the neither Strider nor Schwellenbach may pitch this year and that would really depress our hopes. As I said before, I think Mets, gNats, and Skubal are out. I’d be really happy if Acuna and Suarez and Yaz come back, Kim is released, and we trade for Ray (or equivalent). We sure can use our newfound prospect depth and the recovered Profar money to find some better pitching.
LF with a Yaz/White (or Yaz/Hicklen) platoon and SS with Dubon/Mateo/Jarvis should be OK. Both Fuentes and Ritchie seem to be playing up in the bullpen. I have high hopes for O. Murphy but no expectations. Now SP seems to be our weakest point.
But you’ll notice our runs allowed is still elite (pitching) but our runs scored (hitting) has dropped. Maybe that’s due to having Kim and missing Acuna but one way or another we do need to score more. Maybe the rest is what some guys (Baldwin? Olson?) needed but that could be a problem again in Sept/Oct.
Happy Birthday, Rob. I’m about 18 months behind you.
HICKLEN JARVIS 2026
Happy Birthday, Rob! You haven’t even rounded second yet on your trip around the bases. I wish you all the best!
And JonathanF, I hesitate to offer too much praise for fear you will ask for a raise, but this analysis of starters and bullpens is terrific! It’s Bill James-like in taking an interesting question, digging into the data, and analyzing it with intelligence (and humor). Keep it up!
Owen Murphy didn’t get any help from Dubon, but he’s not fooling anyone either.
Why does Weiss keep bringing in Kinley to pitch to LHB when it fails more often than not? Danny Young was still available. And he could have left Ritchie in to face the 1st hitter who was RH.
Ritchie should go 3 when the starter gets pulled early. He can obviously do it and you have a lot of innings to cover with your pen. My biggest criticism of Weiss is his unwillingness to piggyback these young starters in the pen
I really really agree with that, Stampton. He has several young starters in the pen now; let them eat some innings when the actual starter comes out early.
I have a feeling that if Weiss got to do it over he probably would have done what Stampton said.
Weiss has shown he can do well when it’s relatively easy to manage a staff and bullpen. It’s when the challenges have arisen that he’s been a bit lacking. But he’s shown a willingness to adapt, unlike the last guy.
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