Bobby Cox
Bobby Cox and Ted Turner, three days apart. As probabilities go, it shouldn’t be that surprising I guess. They were about the same age and both were in poor health. But even as their life histories were entangled in the 80s and 90s, it doesn’t quite seem right that the entanglement should continue right down to today. Each really deserves their own time to be thought of separately.
Bobby Cox was the last manager of a school that will never come back: the pre-Sabermetric leader of men. I know a fair amount about Sabermetrics and I know next to nothing about leading men into battle, so I stoof in awe of Bobby’s manifest skills as a leader even as I (and many others here) bemoaned the lack of in-game strategery. We wanted more than one man could possibly be, and Bobby Cox proved that managing a diverse set of prima donnas (and, to be fair, all sorts of personalities, really) into a focused, successful group is both really important and really rare, and gets results that no amount of Sabermetric legerdemain could possibly achieve on its own.
We here at Braves Journal will try and put forward a bigger and better retrospective on the off-day on Monday, I’ve already read AAR’s contribution which is, as you’d expect, excellent, and I’m hoping to get more from the usual suspects. Until then, RIP Bobby,
There Will Be Math
So last night’s anomaly, with Michael Harris II becoming the 126th person to get four hits leading off an inning (not counting Maurice Archdeacon‘s 5 leadoff hits) got me thinking about a number of things. (And apparently JamesD as well… I think I address your issue below.)
First, Harris is not the 126th person to do it, because Ben Revere, José Reyes and Steve Sax did it twice, and Ichiro Suzuki did it three times. (Also, both Sandy Alomar and Robbie Alomar, but let’s not get carried away.) But let’s probe further.
Harris achieved the feat in four at-bats. Obviously, that is rarer. How rare? Now it’s down to 27 times, counting last night. Of those, 12 were hitting leadoff, which obviously gives them a leg up since the leadoff batter is the only one guaranteed to have at least one leadoff inning. So that leaves us with these:
| Date | Batter | Game | Singles | Doubles | Triples | Homers | Batting Spot |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 19250523 | Dave Harris | BSN192505230 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4.0 |
| 19320917 | Red Kress | CHA193209170 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 7.0 |
| 19450919 | Buddy Kerr | BRO194509190 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 7.0 |
| 19470816 | Allie Clark | NYA194708160 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4.0 |
| 19480721 | Bobby Doerr | BOS194807211 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 5.0 |
| 19490919 | Del Ennis | SLN194909190 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 4.0 |
| 19510523 | Mel Parnell | BOS195105230 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 9.0 |
| 19540920 | Wally Post | MLN195409201 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 5.0 |
| 19620617 | Bob Skinner | PIT196206170 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 5.0 |
| 19890815 | Félix Fermín | OAK198908150 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 9.0 |
| 19920808 | Larry Walker | PHI199208080 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 4.0 |
| 19990619 | Todd Helton | COL199906190 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 6.0 |
| 20120628 | Jeff Mathis | TOR201206280 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 9.0 |
| 20200921 | Alejandro Kirk | TOR202009210 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 8.0 |
| 20260508 | Michael Harris II | LAN202605080 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4.0 |
So far, no math. Now I want to focus on the 5 guys who did this hitting cleanup, There are 221,471 games in the Retrosheet database where we know the lineups. This gives us 442,942 opportunties for a guy hitting 4th to go 4-4 in the leadoff spot of an inning. And 5 guys did it, for a rate of 1 in 88,576. My math question: is this more or less than you would expect?
I’m only going to give a back-of-the-envelope calculation here, but I have a pretty big envelope. First question: what is the probability that the fourth hitter in the lineup gets exactly four at-bats? As you might think, this happens a lot, about 51% of all games. Call it 50% (my envelope isn’t that big.) Leadoff batters are pretty good. What’s their overall batting average? 0.280. Now, what’s the probability that those with four at-bats get them all in leadoff positions? This, as you might expect, is the part of this that is really rare. There are only 1777 times a cleanup hitter hit leadoff four times in a game, even rarer than a 0.280 hitter going 4 for four. So the probability is roughly… [scribbles on envelope]…. .5 x .2804 x .004 = .5 x .006 x .004 = 1 in 81,106. So the feat is very slightly rarer than you might think, if you were reduced to making back-of-the-envelope calculations.
The Game
The Dodgers made the somewhat odd decision to cut Blake Snell‘s rehab short and start him tonight. Maybe they just wanted to see how he looked in their City Connect jerseys, which are nondescript in the front and weird in the back — they’re sort of the mullets of uniforms. After loading the bases in the first with no outs, Snell rallied to yield only one run. He loaded the bases again with two outs in the second inning but the can’t-hit-with-men-on juju reached its expiration date, and singles from Ozzie Albies and Matt Olson plated four more runs and it was 5-0. He had used up his 75 pitch limit in three innings, innings I suspect would have been better used with the Oklahoma City Comets.
The great success of Bryce Elder this year has turned the professional tonguewagging naysayers to focus on Spencer Strider. The Braves were very careful to baby Strider into the season. His first start in Colorado sucked, but it’s Colorado. That actually might have been part of AA’s seven dimensional chess — to give Strider plausible deniability if he sucked on his return, especially since his second start tonight was against the Fort Knox Monocle-Wearers — another opportunity for plausible deniability if things went wrong.
But once you hand Strider a five run lead, his job is to protect it. But he did a lot more than that. He looked great. The first time through the lineup: one single and six strikeouts. Velocity, movement, control. I believe those are the three basic requirements. Second time through the lineup: no hits, one strikeout, but two walks. On the home front, even our new insect overlords found some grudging respect. He pitched through six.
Riley scored from first on a Harris double in the 5th to make it 6-0. By the time Dylan Lee came in to pitch the bottom of the 7th, the Dodgers removed Kyle Tucker, whose contract doesn’t require him to play when leverage declines sufficiently, or to face a left-handed pitcher, or to tie his own shoes. Another run in the 7th made it 7-0.
The Braves have not had a shutout in Chavez Ravine in this century. I had feared that Carlos Carrasco might be called in to pitch the 9th with a 7 run lead, but Weiss went with Reynaldo Lopez. He might as well have gone with Carrasco. Lopez gacve up a double and a homer to push the shutout watch at least one more day out. But they hadn’t won a game in three years either. The game ended on a walkoff review.
All is not entirely rosy. Sean Murphy does not appear ready to face major league pitching, though he has correctly appealed his last five ABS calls. Surpassing Jonah Heim (his last game in a Braves uniform notwithstanding) with the twig should not be that daunting, but he isn’t there yet. Yastrzemski appears to be done offensively as well. But these are quibbles.
Rubber game tomorrow at 4:10 Eastern. The newly-revered Bryce Elder against Dodger phenom Justin Wrobleski.

If I’m John Schuerholz, I’m making an appointment with my doctor on Monday.
Right. Put Leo Mazzone in bubble wrap.
Fort Knox Monocle-Wearers was chef’s kiss.
Strange about Yaz because despite his age, he hit like his granpop in spring. You’d think we’d learn that spring really does mean absolutely nothing, but it’s fun to have something to dream on.
Nice bounce back from Strider. I figured Ohtani was going to hit a couple to Sacramento.
I was hoping that 6-0 score would hold.
“Mullet of uniforms” made me laugh. That’s gold!
Well, if Quadzilla is back, I will indeed win my fantasy league. He was dropping in my league and I couldn’t resist, even though I’m pretty anti-Quadzilla. But man, he looked 2023 great. Let’s go, Spence.
Thanks as always, Jonathan. On four-hits-leading-off-innings, at least for those who did it in four AB, my suspicions were spectacularly wrong, as none of them were #1 in the batting order (calling them “leadoff men” might be confusing in this context) and only two of them were in the NL in the decades immediately before the DH. I assume the least likely of the 27 was pitcher Mel Parnell, a career .198 hitter with a 21 OPS+, though he did hit .309 in 1951 (.273 without the game in question).
Thanks, as always. The issue with lineup_position=1 is that, conditional on getting 4 hits, you’re pretty unlikely to have only four plate appearances, no matter how often you hit in the leadoff position of an inning:
Thanks, as always. The issue with lineup_position=1 is that, conditional on getting 4 hits, you’re pretty unlikely to have only four plate appearances, no matter how often you hit in the leadoff position of an inning:
Interesting. I thought about the relative unlikelihood of only having 4PA if you get 4 hits (opposing pitchers would have to be very unsuccessful when pitching to you but very successful pitching to all your teammates), but I guessed that the #9 hitter being so bad would have more of an impact by making it more likely that the leadoff hitters would lead off more innings (plus the guaranteed first inning).
What I saw from Spencer was 97-98 on his fastball. The rest was gravy.
Lopez is not ready for the rotation yet apparently but giving up a 2-run HR with a 7 run lead is not so bad.
Even if we lose to the Dodgers today, we still have a more than .500 road trip (5-4 with a loss and 6-3 with a win). Nice, going into a home series with the Cubs. The Cubs have been monsters at home but not so much on the road.
I liked Dubon at leadoff.
P.S. I started believing in coincidences when Dumbledore (Michael Gambon) and Ducky (David McCallum) died on the same day.
I was watching the Phillies while waiting for the game to start and they now have Cole Hamels in the booth. Cole Hamels was paid $18MM in 2020 to throw 52 pitches, just about $350,000 per pitch. Is that a record for someone who actually pitched? I can figure out who threw so few pitches in a season that that might be plausible, but I don’t have salary data.
BRef has salary data near the bottom of its overview page for most (by definition recent) player seasons that would possibly involve salaries of $350K or more per pitch. Maybe DeGrom?
I endorse this strategy of scoring four runs in the second inning.
Jonah Heim got 5 RBI in one game last Sunday. What’s the over-under on how long it will take Sean Murphy to accumulate 5 RBI?
Suarez got his guy.
Should have traded Murphy last offseason when he still had some value. If he keeps this up, he’ll reach a BJ Upton level of uselessness.
I dunno. Patrick Bailey was just traded for a first round pick and a good pitching prospect and he is basically Sean Murphy offensively.
Yeah, just get a dead cat bounce out of Murphy and we’ll be clear of him just fine.
Brandon keeps calling White’s catch the catch if the series. I’d call it the catch of the season. If he doesn’t make it it’s a 4-3 game with the tying run in scoring position. Losing this game would be a big psychological blow. If they hold on and take two of three in Dodger Stadium, it’s quite a statement.
That catch looks even bigger after that hanging slider from Kinley. That’s three homers in his last five trips to the mound. Don’t need him turning into a right-handed Bummer.
What did they with Elder and can they do the same thing to, say, Lopez
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Elder was great until the 7th when he lost the strike zone. The Braves were awfully lucky to issue 6 walks and only 2 runs. But, who cares, Elder beat Wobleski (or however you spell it) and has done as well or surpassed his rookie season.
The Dodgers scored 7 runs in 27 innings. Maybe Kinley has regressed some but I think he could use more rest – maybe an IL stint when Dodd comes back. I hope we saved enough for the Cubs….
I love our starting rotation and would not like to see it changed (upgraded?) save for swapping Lopez and Holmes or using Perez as a 6th SP occassionally.
Alright, imagine this: Chris Sale wins a World Series with the Braves. What team does he go into the Hall of Fame as a member of?
Happy Mother’s Day all. My mother is with the angels, but if you still have a mother, love her. If you are married to a mother, love her double.
Recapped.