Now remember, none of you is qualified to criticize the thinking of such a super-evolved manager, so don’t. I just hope he can take time out of his busy day to think about the energy crisis or world peace or something.
Nate Schierholtz is available. In the fourth outfielder universe, he’s much better than Matt Young, certainly. Should we trade someone who can actually play baseball for him?
Adam M
on April 26, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Can he actually play center? He’s also a left-handed hitter…
Random stat I found while looking for the key to the team’s offensive struggles (which I’m attributing to low BABIP; poor overall speed; too many groundballs)
So far in the NL 134 batters have reached base thanks to an error by the opposition. Braves hitters account for only 2 of those.
He’s an above-average defensive right fielder, but he’s been in the Giants system since 2003, and he’s played exclusively corner positions: third base, first base, left field, and right field, never an inning in center. It’s certainly possible that he could handle center, but I’m guessing that if he had it in him, the Giants would have tried to find out, especially because they now see him as a possible trade chip — every team in the world could use a center fielder with a bat, even if only as trade bait.
calling for change. I’m betting we see a DFA soon if both of these guys are discussing this situation.
Adam M
on April 26, 2011 at 5:36 pm
7 – It’s kind of interesting considering that Wren’s specialty was, supposedly, his ability to put together solid benches and bullpens. This year, however, there was simply less money left for both after the Uggla trade. And Wren, put simply, did not do a great job with his limited resources.
At the time, I really, really felt like the $3 million thrown to Linebrink and Sherrill would have been better spent on a backup infielder and center fielder, but we apparently desperately needed that veteran influence in the bullpen. Clearly.
What Chipper said in that DOB interview was absolutely spot on:
“I was saying tonight, the most important inning in every single ballgame that we play this year is the seventh. The seventh inning. If we get through the seventh, we’re fine. If we don’t get through the seventh, we’re going to get beat. It changes the whole outlook of the game.”
Spike
on April 26, 2011 at 5:39 pm
Well if both Pravda and Isvestia are saying it, then it will be so
DowneasterJC
on April 26, 2011 at 5:45 pm
You can’t DFA the manager.
ryan c
on April 26, 2011 at 5:46 pm
Anybody want to take a bet that George Sherrill is DFA’d by week’s end?
Smitty
on April 26, 2011 at 5:49 pm
@7,
Sounds like they are saying, “What can Fredo Gonzo do? He is so limited.”
“Fredo” has long been Wil Ledezma, I guess it’s time for a change.
braves14
on April 26, 2011 at 6:10 pm
Sherrill (rightly) never pitches except in blowouts, which we don’t have. There’s no place for him on the roster, that’s an easy decision.
Linebrink makes a bit more than him so he probably will get more time.
Conrad’s days are numbered, he isn’t hitting and can’t play the field.
Hicks hits like a little leaguer.
Ed Lucas and Jose Costanza I would think are likely to replace Conrad and Hicks.
braves14
on April 26, 2011 at 6:12 pm
15 — Guess that happens when you have 3 extra inning games in a week.
It’s unfortunate because McCann has hit Harang well.
Frank
on April 26, 2011 at 6:33 pm
No complaint with ditching Sherrill but I wouldn’t assume that he’s a goner. He’s a liability against many teams but he gives another LOOGY to use against the Phils’ Howard, Utley, etc.
braves14
on April 26, 2011 at 6:36 pm
19 — But we already have Venters and O’Flaherty to do that, plus I think Fredi has lost complete trust in Sherrill already and wouldn’t even let him in a close game…let alone him face Utley or Howard.
I really think Sherrill is demoted or DFA’d at the end of the road trip.
Stu
on April 26, 2011 at 6:45 pm
I agree with Frank; I’d be surprised if they got rid of Cheryl.
Krussell
on April 26, 2011 at 7:10 pm
We’ve scored 3 runs or less in half of our games. A few guys are starting to hit the ball harder and seem close to coming out of it (Uggla in particular). The team-wide problem so far has been way too many weakly hit ground balls. We have to lead the league in ground-outs to the right side.
Good news is that it probably can’t get much worse. Bad news is that we currently suck.
Tomas
on April 26, 2011 at 8:18 pm
For anyone who can’t see the game tonight, it is the free game on MLB.TV.
Both the useless “veteran” relievers should be gone, though I won’t be too unhappy if we can just get rid of Sherrill as a start.
Also, someone needs to beat some game management sense into Fredi. Last night was ridiculous.
Grst
on April 26, 2011 at 9:01 pm
I took a bit of heat last week for saying our problem was too many weak ground-balls, not a lack of patience… now suddenly it’s the conventional wisdom 🙂
Randy
on April 26, 2011 at 9:03 pm
Brent Lillibridge just made back-to-back great plays in right field to save the game against the Yankees.
Toml
on April 26, 2011 at 9:04 pm
Two great catches by Lillibridge ends the white sox game and let’s me watch braves game on MLB network
TheFlyingBernard
on April 26, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Wow. Brent Lillibridge just made 2 great catches (in Right Field!) for the White Sox to save a 3-2 win for them over the Yankees. First he made a catch running into the wall on an ARod fly ball with 2 runners on, then a diving catch on a Cano flare (still 2 on).
Muh Chukkah
on April 26, 2011 at 9:09 pm
Yes… Two men on base. Two circus catches in rf for outs 26 and 27. Either play not made would have meant “Yankees win, Yankees win,daaaaauh!, etc.
I was proud of him
Smitty
on April 26, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Hey, a walk
Brian J.
on April 26, 2011 at 9:11 pm
CHIPPA!
And congratulations on tying Mickey Mantle for second most RBI among all switch-hitters (and 50th overall).
urlhix
on April 26, 2011 at 9:12 pm
Oh yeah.
@21 “Cheryl.” I love it.
Smitty
on April 26, 2011 at 9:13 pm
Time to put Hicks in at third as a defensive replacement and let McCann run McLouth
Does dick enberg usually do baseball? He’s great at tennis
Tomas
on April 26, 2011 at 9:23 pm
Someone go tie up Fredi and stuff him in the broom closet.
c. shorter
on April 26, 2011 at 9:23 pm
boom!
Smitty
on April 26, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Yeah, don’t let that guy pinch hit
urlhix
on April 26, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Nice shot.
Smitty
on April 26, 2011 at 9:24 pm
@36,
Yeah, he is the Padres announcer
DowneasterJC
on April 26, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Fredi’s gut can’t handle it because it’s sick of doing his brain’s job.
Toml
on April 26, 2011 at 9:29 pm
“there goes the no hitter” – chip careys brain
c. shorter
on April 26, 2011 at 9:30 pm
boo, he didn’t have to hurry that much
c. shorter
on April 26, 2011 at 9:30 pm
and the padres oblige with another dp opportunity anyway.
Tomas
on April 26, 2011 at 9:31 pm
Got it the second time, but yeah Uggla got a little too careless there. At least his defense hasn’t really been any kind of issue as one might have feared before the season.
ryan c
on April 26, 2011 at 9:40 pm
if any of you guys have mlb atbat on your phones, go check out the white sox announcers call on the game ending catch by “lillybridge”. it’s outstanding. he actually says the word “bleeping”.
Ok, how apparent is it that David Ross needs to get more ABs? Can he please start taking some snaps at first? Freddie’s going to have to sit occasionally.
Alex R.
on April 26, 2011 at 10:31 pm
Ummm, I don’t suppose theres a way we could make David Ross our everyday Center Fielder so he and McCann could be in the lineup everyday together?
Nahhh, just wondering out loud…
Alex R.
on April 26, 2011 at 10:32 pm
You know, there really is value to rooting for the team with one of the top 3 catchers in Baseball and easily the best backup catcher as well.
Alex R.
on April 26, 2011 at 10:34 pm
Its like we left the Porsche parked in the garage today and took the Lexus SUV out for a spin…
urlhix
on April 26, 2011 at 10:43 pm
Wow, I had the braves*dot*com site up in another tab and they just fired up a look-in that was a good 10 seconds faster than the SS feed, FYI.
csg
on April 26, 2011 at 10:44 pm
even after a long inning thats only 66 pitches thru 6
sansho1
on April 26, 2011 at 10:48 pm
Braves franchise career OPS leaders:
1) Hank Aaron — 944
2) Chipper Jones — 940
3) Eddie Mathews — 896
4) Wally Berger — 894
5) David Ross — 888
I have confidence in our ability to hold a seven-run lead, I’m going to bed!
braves14
on April 26, 2011 at 11:05 pm
JJ with 89 pitches through 7.
csg
on April 26, 2011 at 11:05 pm
Braves need JJ to finish this one on his own.
Cary
on April 26, 2011 at 11:08 pm
Charlie Morton: The Next Halladay??*
(*actual ESPN Baseball Tonight headline)
Tomas
on April 26, 2011 at 11:09 pm
I’m ok with Asencio finishing up if JJ gets gassed (he has laboured a little the last two innings).
drewdat
on April 26, 2011 at 11:10 pm
Let Sherrill take the 9th. He should be OK since it’s Petco. Of course, I said the same for Linebrink last night, but different circumstances.
csg
on April 26, 2011 at 11:11 pm
Cary, you should have heard them talking about it for 5 minutes. If you are wondering, there is only 1 Charlie Morton. Same guy that has more walks than K’s this year and has a career 5.72 ERA. Yep, thats just like Roy Halladay.
Tomas
on April 26, 2011 at 11:12 pm
I’d prefer to not see Sherrill lest Fredi getting any weird ideas about him being useful.
Morton apparently has tinkered with his motion to make it like Halladay’s. It’s sure to work.
Dan
on April 26, 2011 at 11:27 pm
The Braves’ last 9-inning complete game was in September 2009 by Javier Vasquez. Kind of sad.
braves14
on April 26, 2011 at 11:28 pm
Well, the last 9 inning complete game. They’ve had some 8 inning complete games in road losses and Hanson had a 5 inning complete rain-shortened 1-0 loss last year.
From the last thread:
Nate Schierholtz is available. In the fourth outfielder universe, he’s much better than Matt Young, certainly. Should we trade someone who can actually play baseball for him?
Can he actually play center? He’s also a left-handed hitter…
Yes, but he’s not Matt Young.
Random stat I found while looking for the key to the team’s offensive struggles (which I’m attributing to low BABIP; poor overall speed; too many groundballs)
So far in the NL 134 batters have reached base thanks to an error by the opposition. Braves hitters account for only 2 of those.
He’s an above-average defensive right fielder, but he’s been in the Giants system since 2003, and he’s played exclusively corner positions: third base, first base, left field, and right field, never an inning in center. It’s certainly possible that he could handle center, but I’m guessing that if he had it in him, the Giants would have tried to find out, especially because they now see him as a possible trade chip — every team in the world could use a center fielder with a bat, even if only as trade bait.
According to this Royals blogger, “Kyle Davies is the worst starting pitcher in the history of the game.”
Bowman…
http://tinyurl.com/66ftssq
and DOB…
http://tinyurl.com/634ylrc
calling for change. I’m betting we see a DFA soon if both of these guys are discussing this situation.
7 – It’s kind of interesting considering that Wren’s specialty was, supposedly, his ability to put together solid benches and bullpens. This year, however, there was simply less money left for both after the Uggla trade. And Wren, put simply, did not do a great job with his limited resources.
At the time, I really, really felt like the $3 million thrown to Linebrink and Sherrill would have been better spent on a backup infielder and center fielder, but we apparently desperately needed that veteran influence in the bullpen. Clearly.
What Chipper said in that DOB interview was absolutely spot on:
“I was saying tonight, the most important inning in every single ballgame that we play this year is the seventh. The seventh inning. If we get through the seventh, we’re fine. If we don’t get through the seventh, we’re going to get beat. It changes the whole outlook of the game.”
Well if both Pravda and Isvestia are saying it, then it will be so
You can’t DFA the manager.
Anybody want to take a bet that George Sherrill is DFA’d by week’s end?
@7,
Sounds like they are saying, “What can Fredo Gonzo do? He is so limited.”
His bullpen management has put us in this mess.
Prado 7 Heyward 9 Chipper 5 Uggla 4 Freeman 3 Gonzalez 6 Mclouth 8 Ross 2 Jurrjens 1
McCann sitting. Understandable, but frustrating nonetheless.
McCann has been sitting a lot lately, no?
“Fredo” has long been Wil Ledezma, I guess it’s time for a change.
Sherrill (rightly) never pitches except in blowouts, which we don’t have. There’s no place for him on the roster, that’s an easy decision.
Linebrink makes a bit more than him so he probably will get more time.
Conrad’s days are numbered, he isn’t hitting and can’t play the field.
Hicks hits like a little leaguer.
Ed Lucas and Jose Costanza I would think are likely to replace Conrad and Hicks.
15 — Guess that happens when you have 3 extra inning games in a week.
It’s unfortunate because McCann has hit Harang well.
No complaint with ditching Sherrill but I wouldn’t assume that he’s a goner. He’s a liability against many teams but he gives another LOOGY to use against the Phils’ Howard, Utley, etc.
19 — But we already have Venters and O’Flaherty to do that, plus I think Fredi has lost complete trust in Sherrill already and wouldn’t even let him in a close game…let alone him face Utley or Howard.
I really think Sherrill is demoted or DFA’d at the end of the road trip.
I agree with Frank; I’d be surprised if they got rid of Cheryl.
We’ve scored 3 runs or less in half of our games. A few guys are starting to hit the ball harder and seem close to coming out of it (Uggla in particular). The team-wide problem so far has been way too many weakly hit ground balls. We have to lead the league in ground-outs to the right side.
Good news is that it probably can’t get much worse. Bad news is that we currently suck.
For anyone who can’t see the game tonight, it is the free game on MLB.TV.
Both the useless “veteran” relievers should be gone, though I won’t be too unhappy if we can just get rid of Sherrill as a start.
Also, someone needs to beat some game management sense into Fredi. Last night was ridiculous.
I took a bit of heat last week for saying our problem was too many weak ground-balls, not a lack of patience… now suddenly it’s the conventional wisdom 🙂
Brent Lillibridge just made back-to-back great plays in right field to save the game against the Yankees.
Two great catches by Lillibridge ends the white sox game and let’s me watch braves game on MLB network
Wow. Brent Lillibridge just made 2 great catches (in Right Field!) for the White Sox to save a 3-2 win for them over the Yankees. First he made a catch running into the wall on an ARod fly ball with 2 runners on, then a diving catch on a Cano flare (still 2 on).
Yes… Two men on base. Two circus catches in rf for outs 26 and 27. Either play not made would have meant “Yankees win, Yankees win,daaaaauh!, etc.
I was proud of him
Hey, a walk
CHIPPA!
And congratulations on tying Mickey Mantle for second most RBI among all switch-hitters (and 50th overall).
Oh yeah.
@21 “Cheryl.” I love it.
Time to put Hicks in at third as a defensive replacement and let McCann run McLouth
Another fine play by AGon.
Another terrific turn by AAG
Your gut, Fredo?
Does dick enberg usually do baseball? He’s great at tennis
Someone go tie up Fredi and stuff him in the broom closet.
boom!
Yeah, don’t let that guy pinch hit
Nice shot.
@36,
Yeah, he is the Padres announcer
Fredi’s gut can’t handle it because it’s sick of doing his brain’s job.
“there goes the no hitter” – chip careys brain
boo, he didn’t have to hurry that much
and the padres oblige with another dp opportunity anyway.
Got it the second time, but yeah Uggla got a little too careless there. At least his defense hasn’t really been any kind of issue as one might have feared before the season.
if any of you guys have mlb atbat on your phones, go check out the white sox announcers call on the game ending catch by “lillybridge”. it’s outstanding. he actually says the word “bleeping”.
How the hell did that just happen?
Not well done, McLouth.
Yes, that was entirely Jurrjens’ fault and he alone deserves to be charged the run.
McLouth takes great angles.
Too bad JJ didn’t take the walk when he had the chance.
46 pitches (36 strikes) through five innings for Jair.
Another nice play by AAG. Helps to just have to get it in the vicinity of first base for Freddie to pick it.
Wow, that’s a double play ball if the infield isn’t in.
Whee!!!
Edit: Guess it’s Harang him out to dry night.
David “Babe” Ross
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ross! And with that, I’m off to bed. Night all…
What else needs to be said? Ross is still Boss.
Ross doesn’t care where they put the infielders.
Really a shame that McCann had to sit…
Have a day!
Ok, how apparent is it that David Ross needs to get more ABs? Can he please start taking some snaps at first? Freddie’s going to have to sit occasionally.
Ummm, I don’t suppose theres a way we could make David Ross our everyday Center Fielder so he and McCann could be in the lineup everyday together?
Nahhh, just wondering out loud…
You know, there really is value to rooting for the team with one of the top 3 catchers in Baseball and easily the best backup catcher as well.
Its like we left the Porsche parked in the garage today and took the Lexus SUV out for a spin…
Wow, I had the braves*dot*com site up in another tab and they just fired up a look-in that was a good 10 seconds faster than the SS feed, FYI.
even after a long inning thats only 66 pitches thru 6
Braves franchise career OPS leaders:
1) Hank Aaron — 944
2) Chipper Jones — 940
3) Eddie Mathews — 896
4) Wally Berger — 894
5) David Ross — 888
*Gasp* Uggla singled!
I just tuned in today. Apparently we have an offense, now?
Oh, it’s a party.
@70, number five is awesome.
The Padres have a really sad offense.
Venable has a weird hair cut and/or head shape.
I have confidence in our ability to hold a seven-run lead, I’m going to bed!
JJ with 89 pitches through 7.
Braves need JJ to finish this one on his own.
Charlie Morton: The Next Halladay??*
(*actual ESPN Baseball Tonight headline)
I’m ok with Asencio finishing up if JJ gets gassed (he has laboured a little the last two innings).
Let Sherrill take the 9th. He should be OK since it’s Petco. Of course, I said the same for Linebrink last night, but different circumstances.
Cary, you should have heard them talking about it for 5 minutes. If you are wondering, there is only 1 Charlie Morton. Same guy that has more walks than K’s this year and has a career 5.72 ERA. Yep, thats just like Roy Halladay.
I’d prefer to not see Sherrill lest Fredi getting any weird ideas about him being useful.
Yeah, Im tired of Ludwick
That is why I don’t watch Baseball Tonight.
Morton apparently has tinkered with his motion to make it like Halladay’s. It’s sure to work.
The Braves’ last 9-inning complete game was in September 2009 by Javier Vasquez. Kind of sad.
Well, the last 9 inning complete game. They’ve had some 8 inning complete games in road losses and Hanson had a 5 inning complete rain-shortened 1-0 loss last year.
I don’t always agree w/ Bowman but I agree with a lot of this:
http://markbowman.mlblogs.com/2011/04/26/braves-need-to-assess-roster-needs/
Great game from Jair
Great job, JJ.
Wow. Jurrjens is a bad mother.
Nice game! And quick, too.
ETA: Shut yo mouth!
And the Phils lost. Not a bad night.
Good win, good game by JJ (even though it *is* the Padres).
Should have been the second win of the series, Fredi.
And Brian Jordan continues to get worse at his job.
Recapped. I’m gonna leave this one up for the game thread, as tomorrow is an afternoon game.