Dare we stand up to Strasburg? Can we even bear to gaze upon his sheer beauty?
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to justhank from previous thread:
Matt Kemp is good but not THAT good.
.258 .316 .455 .771 – currently
.292 .341 .476 .817 – career
I get it. He is a CF – but who do you trade for him? Jurrjens? Medlen? because thats what it would take. I wouldn’t.
Don’t get yourself in a lather about Kemp anyway. Its just Rosenthal making shit up.
Gave upon his sheer beauty? Gaze maybe?
Look, typing is hard.
Hehehe Mac, I agree. Typing is very herd.
So to all the SEC fans on here. What would you make fun of less:
A black bear, a blues musician, a cardinal, a land shark, a lion, “mojo”, Hotty and Toddy, a river boat pilot, a titan, a “fanatic”, or a horse.
http://mascot.olemiss.edu/?page_id=244
JC’ed –
Rosenthal floated that Kemp to the Braves idea, and while it will never happen, it’s a fascinating mental challenge trade. Kemp won’t be traded because LA really doesn’t have a good centerfield option, and there is a huge potential to trade away a future star at the bottom of his value. It makes Reed Johnson your starting CFer for LA, and it makes Nate or Matt redundant here in ATL.
Having said that I think one of JJ or Medlen plus Melky is a not unreasonable offer.
Admiral Ackbar.
Yeah, sadly Ackbar didn’t make it to phase three.
great stats per DOB…
Then again, the Braves are only 2-4 with a .218 batting average in their past six, albeit three against the sizzling White Sox. 2 hours ago
The Nationals are 2-10 with a .213 batting average and an average of fewer than 3 runs in past 12 games. 2 hours ago
Someone please catch me up. Is the Univ of Mississippi changing it’s mascot? Becuase Rebel is offensive? Or something?
per DOB: “Initial report on Heyward MRI is a strained ligament where it attaches to the bone. No surgery required, can play when tolerable for him, but problem could linger until he gets extended rest in offseason.
This from a person familiar with the situation who wasn’t authorized to speak publicly until after Braves make an announcement later.”
sounds like another “schafer situation” to me
@1 – 817 OPS tranlates to 115 OPS+. The list of 25 year olds that have hit that well over 2000+ PA is quite thin, and even thinner when you limit it to CF’s. I would seriously consider trading any non-Hansen/Heyward Brave.
NATIONALS (33-43)
CF Nyjer Morgan
C Ivan Rodriguez
3B Ryan Zimmerman
1B Adam Dunn
LF Josh Willingham
RF Roger Bernadina
SS Ian Desmond
2B Alberto Gonzalez
P Stephen Strasburg
BRAVES (44-32)
2B Martin Prado
RF Melky Cabrera
3B Chipper Jones
C Brian McCann
1B Troy Glaus
LF Eric Hinske
SS Yunel Escobar
CF Gregor Blanco
P Tim Hudson
Interesting topic I saw on MLBTR –
Zambrano for Lowe – would you do it?
No. Lowe knows how to win.
@5
I like the Rebel Lion (Rebelion) and the Bear
15—Probably not. Interesting question, though.
13—I’d say any non-Hanson/Heyward/McCann Brave, but I basically agree with you. And I agree that Jurrjens + Melky for Kemp is not an unreasonable offer, in a vacuum.
@15
No. Zambrano is a head case.
Would it be a terrible idea to put Heyward on the 15 day DL?
Bethany,
Depends on how much it hurts him. May not be a terrible idea. Depends on how far out Diaz is.
Strasburg Tour 2010 makes its way to ATL, here’s a prediction:
http://clatl.com/freshloaf/archives/2010/06/28/braves-look-to-do-impossible-humanize-strasburg
The 15-day DL for Heyward was a conversation I was having this weekend.
I mean, it’s not like he’s helping when he’s hurt.
Of course, I don’t know how much better that thumb’s gonna be after just 15 days either.
#15 – not a chance
lineup:
Prado
melky
chip
bmac
glaus
hinske
yunel
blanco
When Diaz comes back, you’ll have to either DL Heyward or send Blanco down. So do you match up better with:
Diaz, Hinske, Melky and Blanco, where Hinske and Diaz are platooned, Melky, a switch hitter, plays right, and Blanco, a lefty, and your best defensive CF, plays CF everyday. This means everyday you have a platoon advantage in both corners, and your only mismatch is in CF when against a LHP.
or
Diaz, Hinske, Melky, injured Heyward, where I don’t know how you match up lefty/righty, and how you work in rest for Heyward. Do you play Hinske everyday and expose him to lefties, and platoon Diaz and Heyward, to give Heyward rest? Do Melky and Diaz play everyday, and you just decide which of Heyward or Hinske plays based on how Heyward feels?
If Heyward is hurt, I D/L him, go with some stability in my OF, and get him back healthy after the All-Star Break.
I'll take the first option
DL him. Don’t pick up a bat for two weeks. I imagine that would help.
Does the DL by any chance count against service time?
In other words, if we DL him for 15 days do we get our year back?
Zambrano? And people thought I was crazy …
27-
Nope, he’d have to be sent down to stop the “clock”
if its true that St Louis is a potential suitor for Lee, there top 3 would be brutal to face
Lee
Carpenter
Wainright
cant you just send him down for two weeks and tell him not to play or would the players union be all over that?
The union, his agent… There’d be a grievance.
I would DL Heyward because the last thing you need is a 20 year old developing bad habits–if he hasn’t already–because of an injury. If he was a more veteran player–or, to be honest, a less hot prospect–I might say play him if he can contribute at all since the alternatives are not that good. This guy is the future of the franchise; as Chipper has shown in the past, a hitter simply cannot hit if his hands are injured.
I will be seeing The National at the Ryman in October. This fact excites me.
The union would file a grievance, and it would win. The player himself would be pissed off, and it would spoil the relationship. The commissioner’s office would also be pissed if a team tried a stunt like that, and might not even allow the transaction. Also, it’s mean.
BTW, I got a Kindle for my birthday and just saw that Braves Journal is on it. It’s 99 cents/month for a Kindle subscription; do you get any of that?
Also, there are two customer reviews about the blog; one is from a Alexander F. Remington, of Washington, DC. He says your rules are strict but fair. I think we might hear more from this guy some time. 🙂
35—Sounds like a ‘bag.
I get a little piece. I’m not quite sure what my share is, actually — it works out to a few dollars a month.
@34, it would depend I think. If you sent Heyward down to play DH once every 2-3 days to try and rest and get his swing back, and claimed you couldn’t do it at the ML level because you couldn’t afford a bench spot on a part time player, I think that passes the smell test. A week or two would not alter his service time in any meaningful way, so there would really be nothing to grieve
while i understand the reasoning, is there anyone else amazed that jermaine dye and gary sheffield are still jobless?
@39 no. neither would come off their salary demands.
Bobby says Diaz is pain-free and could be activated soon.
I’m cold. Is anyone else cold? Because I’m cold.
If we get no-hit today, it’d be cool to have two teams that were no-hit twice playing each other in the WS (TB)
Good Lord, calm the hell down about the guy with two career wins. The hype is unbearable.
Nyjer, please.
That’s what you get for being stupid with your lead, Nyjer.
That could have went either way. He looked out by a hair, though.
Quit nibbling, Tim!
Just saying I’m cold.
Oh boy Strasburg time.
Melky!
Well, how ’bout that?
What’s the injury delay?
In case you haven’t noticed, Bobby, unable to call Melky “Melkyy”, calls him “Melk”.
52 — Pudge got dirt in his eye.
Pudge just got something in his eye.
Although “Slowy” would also work.
Snitker’d again. He was out by 10 feet.
Gotta like the cuts we’re getting. Our hitters definitely came into this one with a plan to look oppo.
Ah, well.
A less fat man would have had a better chance.
I could out run Melky. Geez.
How deep was Chipper’s fly out? (I ask because game tracker had it pretty deep.) Could Melky have advanced to third?
Well, he probably should have moved to third on Chipper’s fly ball.
That was a hell of a throw. We need Willingham
Yeah, a lot of hard hit balls.
Apparently Melky made a crater at the plate upon impact.
@63 I thought so too.
Pretty sure he made a crater with every step. Gawd that was slow.
I think Melk Dud tagging on Chipper’s fly would have been a stretch.
That ball was too hard hit for him to get back and tag.
#62, very deep. Sadly Melky thought he couldn’t score from second on a double if Willingham missed it so stood halfway between 2nd and 3rd before retreating.
Geez…McCann is a terrible defensive catcher. An extra pitch Hudson did not have to throw.
Prado by escobar.
I think Melky has to go half way on the ball Chipper hit. It was one hell of a throw by Willingham to get him.
Hudson is throwing a ton of pitches.
23 pitches already this inning by Huddy…..
It was a good throw but Melky looked slower than molasses coming around 3rd. No jump off of second. My opinion he couldn’t have advanced on Chipper’s fly.
IMHO everyone should be having Mike Leake fever. Rookie right out of college having a great year for the Reds in a bandbox stadium.
Shame we haven’t been able to get a run in, but I’m glad we’ve gotten some good hits off him.
It was an over the shoulder catch going the wrong way on Chipper’s fly. That’s why I thought he could have at least tried to get to third at the time.
But after seeing him round around third, yeah, it’s pretty obvious why it would have been a bad idea.
Why is Prado trying to pull this guy?
3 errors already.
I’m getting nervous, Hudson is not sharp.
The problem is that Huddy’s got 72 pitches through 4 innings. Don’t see him getting through the 6th.
Keep hitting like that and he ain’t retiring.
Wat a way to swing at 3 balls Brian….I guess the Braves want Strasburg to go 9. Marlins 5, the other team in NY 1.
Ugh, Yunel.
Esco isn’t even trying. He looks like he’s hungover.
what the hell escobar?
Braves infielders need to meet with the grounds crew before tomorrow’s game.
In Huddy’s defense (no pun intended), Escobar has caused him to throw many more pitches.
Yunel Escobar is the Cuban BJ Upton.
86 pitches through 5 for Huddy.
Rob Dibble is awful.
Hinske is too fat to catch up to Strasburg….
Nice camera work tonight. I love how Pudge looks up at the batter before he calls the sign. You could almost see the wheels turning in his mind when Esco was at the plate.
Wow Bob Carpenter just made Derrick Lowe sound like Cy Young. That last pitch was ball…good grief.
I’m on ESPN2. Sutcliff and Aaron Boone. Tough to listen to.
Zambrano said he was trying to light a fire under his teammates and that Derrek Lee took it personally which escalated it into a face-to-face confrontation. For some reason, I tend to agree. Opinions?
ESPN’s blacked out here… I’d rather sit here in the quiet on mute than listen to Rob Dibble.
I think Zambrano’s style overwhelms his intentions, whatever they might be.
Joinging in the middle of game.
There are two reliable and hard -working pitchers ever I have known on my list. One is Mike Mussina and the other is Tim Hudson. Their pitching is steady no matter how they win or lose. Both of them are very smart. I know Hudson is highly competetitive and he hates to lose. I’m happy with him as a brave.
For all the years he pitched in that bandbox during the steroid era, Mike Mussina is a hall of famer IMO.
I’d walk Gonzalez.
Hudson got away with back to back bad pitches.
Nicely done.
OK thanks Francouer, I mean Andruw….damn I mean Gonzalez.
That was curious – Hudson is tiring, game tied late – how can you not go for the win there and PH for Strasburg?
Whew.
@107 bc their bullpen is terrible.
McCatty looks like he could use some air conditioning. And a drink.
Here comes the bunt with Glaus!
come on Troy
Chipper made that happen. Vet move!
Well, that makes Yunel look a lot better.
Excellent base running by Chipper.
88 to 99…now that’s special. Make contact Hinske.
What happened?
that’ll do it
117
groundball to SS, instead of double play, Desmond booted it.
Hinske now hit a sac fly to CF
THERE is my sac fly!
Tough luck for Strasburg, but hey, we need it more than they do.
need one more at least
Morgan throws like a girl.
Lol at Zimmerman, dumb throw by a not very smart player Morgan.
Being a National is going to wear on Stras.
Yu-nelll ES-cobar!
atta boy Yunel
Thx, RR.
YUNEL!!!!
ESCO!
I forgive you Yunel!
Strasburg kind of reminds me of AJ Burnett if Burnett’s was IQ was 100 instead of 65…
billy-jay, Chipper did a good job shielding the ground ball from the shortstop.
Lots of good stuff!
sad thing is, this kid might be the a top 3-5 pitcher in baseball already. Sorry, you’re a nat
McCann and Escobar with two hits off Strasburg…..he’s not so tough.
The Braves are bigger than Jesus!
BRILLIANT!
GREG WHITE!
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Aaron Boone’s analysis of this inning: This rally was started by Chipper’s energy which fed the crowd and revitalized the Braves hitters.
NATIONAL LEAGUE BASEBALL!!!
National League Baseball
I like this team!!
Ive enjoyed Gregor’s time here, Im guessing he’s gone in a few days with Diaz coming back though
Hicks is still on the team, and he’ll be the one who goes down.
good call, forgot about him
LOLNATZ
The Nationals display their gloves of steel.
Washington looks like a bunch of clowns.
great baserunning here by the boys….this Nats team defense is just awful
This is the greatest inning everrrrr!!!
That was terrible.
lol @ Aaron Boone
braves14 has it…they look like clowns.
EDIT – LOL, Mac.
What? How can the great infallible Strasburg be the (likely) loser tonight?
LOL, remember when Steve Phillips said the Nats should trade Strasburg for Oswalt
If you think this is bad, you should have seen them in the series with the Orioles.
looks like we’ll be picking up games on both the Mets and Phils also
The introduction of M. Prior to the Cubs was a sensation. A guy from Chicago talked about him everyday at that time. I don’t know where he is now!
Well done Strasburg, but the Braves teach him a lesson. Hahahaha.
@152 Score should be 0-0 and Strasburg still pitching in all honesty. His defense let him down (again) tonight. I am more than happy to take it mind you.
No he did not! Really?
Only he could say something like that.
*Cue circus music*
I honestly expected to see a little clown car zoom out onto the field during that last play.
@22″ Rob’s prediction:
5.2 IP, 6 H, 3 ER, 3 BB, 7 K, ND
Actual line:
6.1 IP, 6 H, 3 ER, 2 BB, 7 K, L (?)
Man the USC UCLA game is crawling. Just the 5th inning
Poor Nats, and Redskins camp is right around the corner.
Apparently, all four of those runs are being scored earned. I have no idea how.
@156, The Prior experience (heh) is a large part of why the Nats are handling Strasburg the way they are.
Strasburg doesn’t know how to win after all. Lowe would have gotten that done.
Lowe definitely would have come up with a hit in the seventh. It’s all part of knowing how to win.
161 — As long as we’re winning by 6 runs it can go at a Trachsel pace for all I care!
“Apparently, all four of those runs are being scored earned. I have no idea how.”
Can’t assume the double play?
I see no need to rush Heyward back during this series….good call Dan.
an error that occured with no outs, 3 singles a walk and two sac flies have followed. No way they are all unearned
Dave O’Brien criticizing Strasburg: “He seemed a little off today, he did not hit 100”
damn
he hit 100 about 10 times
Glaus reached on an error, he at least has to be charged unearned. Also, for the life of me I can’t figure out how the clown car play at third could be scored a hit, but apparently it was.
Maybe the Yankees will call Starsburg to the big leagues.
I thought the dude pitched well enough to win. His team sucks.
so does Jeff Francoeur now talk about how Strasburg will be a Yank in a few years?
If Zimmerman, the best 3rd baseman in the NL can’t get to it, I guess it has to be a hit.
Apropos of nothing, I was listening on the radio Saturday when Moylan came in and they were playing “Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap” – does he always use this? So awesome – my favorite player music match I’ve heard in years.
so would you offer Teheran and Delgado for Strasburg? who here would throw in Vizcaino too?
I heard Minor was promoted to AAA today, good for him
Geez Dibble is ripping Morgan and Desmond to pieces…..
I heart Venters
Id throw in Escobar and Hank Aaron
@179 – whoa!
Make the move csg. I don’t think they would take it.
Strasburg is the only draw for the Nats, he is here to stay.
NYM and PHI lost
Im pretty sure the Nats guys called Venters “Hinske” that entire at-bat.
@186
Until the Nats hire Dusty Baker and his arm come flying off, ala Mark Prior
Hats off to Tim Hudson, the Marlins, the Reds and—let’s face it—Ian Desmond.
Aaron Boone referred to our 1B prospect as Ernie Freeman
Strasburg – 6.1 IP, 7K, 2BB, 0HR
Hudson – 7 IP, 6K, 3BB, 0HR
Fewer strikeouts and more walks. We lucked out. I’ll take it.
If I were the running the Nats, I would work it to where Strasburg only pitched at home.
If I were running the Nats, I’d bring in 7 starting right fielders. And a bunch of former Braves.
Venters trying to replicate that luck from Saturday…
Hudson struck out Alberto Gonzalez 3 times, including that runner-on-third/one-out situation.
@194
HA HA HA HA HA
Venters is nowhere near on these pitches.
Diaz is 0-5 with 3K’s tonight
Venters looks worn out
Alberto Gonzalez is to Major Leagues as Keano Reeves is to acting
good win
Suck it Strasburg.
#201 probably should look like this
Gonzalez:Baseball::Keano:Football
UCLA has had their starter throw 127 pitches even though he allowed 6 runs and is losing 6-0.
Let’s hope that next Saturday Strasburg will be looking to strike down the Mets with great vengeance and furious anger.
Dan Haren hit a homer to break a 2-2 tie in the seventh, that’s knowing how to win.
Very satisfying.
Recap.