Andres Thomas vs. Henry Blanco. Also, game thread: Marlins at Braves

Andres Thomas Statistics and History –

Seasons with Braves: 1985-1990
Notable Stats: .234 BA, .255 OBP, .958 FP
Notable Achievements: Disproved the concept that young players always improve.


Henry Blanco Statistics and History –

Seasons with Braves: 2002-03
Notable Stats: .202 BA, .262 OBP
Notable Achievements: Is still in the majors six years later at the age of 37 even though he can’t hit at all. Still better than Corky Miller.

148 thoughts on “Andres Thomas vs. Henry Blanco. Also, game thread: Marlins at Braves”

  1. Really, it’s the disparity between expectation and performance that sets Thomas in the same league as Kolb. You can sort of tolerate suckiness from a guy you know is supposed to be suck. A Proven Closer and Can’t Miss Prospect, by definition, get held to a different standard.

  2. I’ve never been sure why Thomas was such a hot prospect to begin with. He never really did anything in the minors. I guess he just looked like he was going to be good.

  3. From previous thread – “Nobody wants to play Colorado either”.

    I would venture to say that nobody is really scared of that rotation.

  4. Thomas is my favorite bad Brave of all-time. That is, he’s the player I most associate with awfulness. He will always epitomize the terrible, terrible teams of the late 80s to me. (Surprisingly, those were the days when I was really becoming a Braves fan. I will always look back in fondness on the time in my life when I loved baseball so much that I was happy to watch the Braves lose.) Anyway, Andres Thomas all the way!

  5. Can’t say how surprised and happy I will be if the Braves are playing a meaningful game on the last day of the regular season… AND I’ll be there (crossing fingers nothing goes wrong with this plan). Free tickets for and my oldest son to go with a friend and his oldest son (while our wives hang out and do something neither of us want to participate in).

  6. the Brewers fans are pumped that they might finish over .500
    I hope their players have that same intensity the next 3 games

  7. Back in the day I thought Thomas was a top prospect just because everyone on TV said he was.

    #5 Mac you’re probably right. That was the state of the science of evaluating talent back then. He looked good doing some things therefore he was going to be good.

    Is constantly telling yourself not to have hope, hoping sort of?

  8. @15 – I was saying nobody is going to be scared of the Colorado pitching come the post-season. Then Mac mentioned that their lineup was better than ours – to which I agreed.

  9. I don’t see that much difference between Colorado and Atlanta offensively.

    Team A OPS+ starters
    Overall 98
    4.9 RC/G

    Team B OPS+ starters
    Overall – 99
    5.3 RC/G

  10. Per C-Rog:

    1. McLouth CF
    2. Prado 2B
    3. Jones 3B
    4. McCann C
    5. Anderson LF
    6. Escobar SS
    7. LaRoche 1B
    8. Diaz RF
    9. Jurrjens P

  11. Just read this on Yahoo: “Florida may be without right fielder Cody Ross for the rest of the season after being hit by a pitch in a 9-6 win over the Mets on Saturday night. Ross, who has a career-high 24 home runs and 90 RBIs, said there was a lot of swelling the day after.” That’s good for us, isn’t it? Isn’t Ross a Braves killer?

    Not that I’m allowing Hope up from this choke-hold I have him in at the moment . . .

  12. Pete Orr “plays” every position…can anyone arrange for the Nats to send him over to the fish for this series?

  13. I love Andres Thomas’ B-R page. He was among the league leaders in … outs made! Also, double plays hit into! I’m so proud.

  14. While I would say the Rox lineup is probably marginally scarier than ours, it’s not like they’re sending out Pujols/Holiday or Howard/Werth/Ibanez/Utley… they’ve got a couple of 30HR guys, but the OPS isn’t way different than ours on first glance.

  15. braves14’s SEC rankings:

    1. Alabama
    2. Florida
    3. Auburn
    4. Georgia
    5. LSU
    6. South Carolina
    7. Ole Miss
    8. Kentucky
    9. Arkansas
    10. Tennessee
    11. Mississippi State
    12. Vanderbilt

  16. Regardless of whose lineup or pitching staff is better, my original point was that nobody is throwing games or even trying less just so that the Rockies get in and the Braves don’t.

    The Rockies are 70-40 since firing Hurdle. The Cardinals weren’t thinking “hey, if we lose these games at least the Braves don’t get in!” That’s neither logical nor how baseball minds work.

  17. Braves14, as a War Eagle ’84, I really hope your rankings hold up. Sadly, I don’t see it.

  18. I think the difference between second and third is bigger than the difference between third and twelfth — that is, I’d be more surprised if anyone beat one of the top two than if the twelfth-place team beat the third-place one.

  19. My rankings would be:

    1. Florida
    2. Bama
    3. Georgia
    4. LSU
    5. Arkansas
    6. Auburn
    7. South Carolina
    8. Ole Miss
    9. Tennessee
    10. Mississippi State
    11. Vanderbilt
    12. Kentucky

    I wouldn’t go quite that far, Mac—I would be more stunned if UK beat UGA than if LSU beat Bama—but there is a big gap, for sure.

    I don’t care where you put VU. Based on performance, we don’t deserve much praise. Yet. But UK is a bad, bad football team this year.

  20. Arkansas 5th? I’ll be surprised if they become bowl eligible. Also, I was joking about making you mad about Vandy 12th.

  21. @30 – I don’t think anyone was insinuating teams would be throwing games – at least I wasn’t. It’s just that the human mind is a complicated thing and can take control in many scenarios. Just like someone who comes up in a pressure situation is likely to get nervous, some players could just say I could care less. Not that they are throwing the game, just that they don’t really care – hard to perform well when you have that mindset.

  22. My preseason rankings would have looked like this:

    1. Florida
    2. Bama
    3. LSU
    4. Georgia
    5. Arkansas
    6. Vanderbilt
    7. Ole Miss
    8. Auburn
    9. Tennessee
    10. South Carolina
    11. Kentucky
    12. Mississippi State

  23. As much as I hate to admit this, I think Tennessee is somewhere in the top 6 to 8 (we’ll see after this weekend). UT’s defense is good enough to beat at least 6 of the teams in the conference, and I’m not sure what would happen with Ga. My rankings would be
    1. Florida
    2. Bama

    3. LSU
    4. Ole Miss
    5. Georgia
    6. Auburn
    7. Tennessee
    8. South Carolina
    (the difference b/t 3 and 8 is very small)

    9. Arkansas
    10. Miss. State
    11. Vanderbilt
    12. Kentucky

  24. The Cards and Dodgers are also fighting to have the best record in the league which would give them home field advantage until the World Series. So I think they have plenty of motivation when playing the Rockies this last week. I guess the Brewers would like to finish above .500 all else being equal, but I doubt that’s quite as motivating as for the other teams.

  25. I’m glad Andres Thomas came along before I can remember. I’m sure Braves Journal would make hating Francoeur look tame in comparison to that.

  26. At least in those days everybody had a crappy hitting SS. A crappy hitting RF crosses eras of suckitude.

  27. In 2006, we got enough motivation out of just screwing up Houston’s playoff chances so I’m sure the Brewers will be okay. It didn’t stop them taking 2 out of 3 from the Phillies either.

    Nice keep hope dead stat from Jayson Stark. Only one other team has come from 8½ back in September, the 1964 Cardinals, and they did it with 27 games to go, not 21 as we are trying.

  28. In case no one noticed the final yards of the Texas v UTEP game

    Texas: 639
    UTEP: 53

    Muschamp has the Horns D playing out of their minds…

  29. I see that Anibal hasn’t pitched well against the Braves in 2 of his last 3 starts against us, but it feels otherwise like he always has our number. (I don’t feel like actually looking it up to verify that.)

  30. @54

    Fairly true. Chizik’s Iowa St. was the Kentucky of the Big 12 last year. Mizzou played like s*** and still smoked them like a Havana.

  31. My SEC East rankings:

    1. UK
    2. UT
    3. Vandy
    4. Florida
    5. South Carolina
    6. UGA

    Oh, wait – I thought (hoped) the subject had changed to basketball.

  32. I’m disappointed we only got 2 runs out of that.

    Was Fredi trying to make us laugh by warming up Kolb while Sanchez couldn’t throw a strike?

  33. #60—Old Fogy Music—-You know what gets me about today’s music (besides the rip-off known as sampling) is how main-stream media guys (I’m thinking Dan Patrick here) fawn over rappers. Somehow at Dan’s age I can’t see him going home, and putting on a 50 cent cd.

  34. I also voted for Thomas, because he was disappointing. But at least, for a while I held out hope he might be decent. (I actually bought a 200 count 86 Topps Traded Rookie Card lot of him for $10. lost money) And anything that could have given you hope from ’86 to ’89 was a feather in Braves’ fans caps.

  35. ACHE sucks. His full season numbers are very similar to Stenchy’s full season numbers.

    If it mattered a lot, I’d be pissed that Bobby hasn’t flipped him and LaRoche.

  36. Mac, it’s not fogeydom. Jessie James isn’t a star. Stars don’t play spur of the moment concerts after baseball games.

  37. In case you guys didn’t know yet, Barmes dropped the catch yesterday. That would have given the Cards runners at the corners, 1 out in a tie game.

    It also means the Rockies didn’t make a single valid out in the 9th.

  38. If EVER there was a time to ask someone to bunt…but no – ACHE is a “professional hitter”tm.

  39. No hits with runners in scoring position- and only two hits total- explain Anibal’s continued presence.

  40. 6-2 Astros now.

    And here’s our old friend Dan Meyer, reminding us that Schuerholz could hoodwink anyone when he put his mind to it.

  41. Yeah, Addie lets me sleep at night since I have to go to work. However, she was pretty fussy last night when the Cards blew it… A true Braves fan she is.

  42. Fun Fact – Calero was in the Mulder deal the same year Meyer was in the Hudson deal

  43. Interesting how Dan Meyer and Kiko Calero, both traded for one of Oakland’s big three ending up with the same team…

  44. The Marlins, much like the Nats, have no interest in winning. What happens when we face a team that does?

  45. Two back of the Rockies, about to be four back of the Phillies.

    Are you sure you won’t change your mind about this “hope” stuff?

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