it is possible. that would leave only about 10 million to cover 5 positions (this is just my best guess to the 20 that would have a “for sure” roster spot if huddy and vazquez were both kept). the braves could take a big gamble on freeman at first for 2010 and use the current pitching depth in the organization to fill out the holes, using an “in-house” closer. i think that might be too risky.
Jon K
on September 13, 2009 at 9:30 am
Haha too bad Serena
McCann the Man
on September 13, 2009 at 9:33 am
Not only should we not have hope, but since most of America will be watching football nobody will be paying attention anyway. Go Falcons?
Randy
on September 13, 2009 at 10:03 am
As Mac points out, Sutter killed us from the time we signed him thru the rest of the decade. This guy is in the HOF and Dale Murphy isn’t, if that’s not a reason to hate him as a Brave fan, I don’t know what is.
I’m pretty sure the Braves are more worthy of hope than the Falcons. If those guys get 9 wins, I’ll call this season a success.
hankonly
on September 13, 2009 at 11:15 am
UT simply cannot continue with Crompton as their QB. He single-handedly cost them a game they should have won with relative ease.
Chief Nocahoma
on September 13, 2009 at 11:22 am
@2, not with this outfield and a bunch of singles hitters and with McLouth hitting .260 and/or hurt every other day. Until we find some right-handed power, this team will be around .500
hankonly
on September 13, 2009 at 11:37 am
Surely we will attempt to trade DLowe? I like the guy, but not at $15 mil.
That and Chipper’s $13 limit our options pretty severely.
This wretched economy is going to cause cuts in many markets and I suspect one of them is ours.
Heyward may have to play just for the sake of the budget.
An outfield of Heyward, Diaz and McLouth ain’t terrible (defensively or offensively). With a decent season from Chipper and LaRoche, we can lean on our pitching to fight for a WC.
Still think KJ can be a valuable part of this team, but I don’t think Bobby agrees.
Are we really going to start next year looking like we are ending this year? Sigh.
Marc Schneider
on September 13, 2009 at 11:48 am
Obviously, the Braves need more offense, but some act as if this is the worst team of all time and that it’s impossible for them to add power. The team has improved and there is every chance they will improve more next year. I don’t get this, we’re out of it, so who cares attitude?
Realistically, the Braves are probably the fifth or sixth best team in the league right now. They can get better.
I was really enjoying this team for a while. Right up until that Padres series.
Jon K
on September 13, 2009 at 11:55 am
It isn’t over til the fat lady sings. If the braves could go 15-5 in the next 20 games I think that will put them right there for the NL EAST title. With 3 games against the phillies (they could win the series and own the tie break), 3 against the marlins, and 7 against the nats, I don’t think 15-5 is out of the question
mraver
on September 13, 2009 at 11:55 am
Unless Heyward flops in the AFL and again in ST, I expect to see him in RF to start next year. I also expect to see LaRoche back at 1B. Other than that, I expect the team to basically be the same as now, with the RF platoon becoming the LF platoon, KJ maybe getting traded, and some shuffling in the bullpen.
Jon K
on September 13, 2009 at 11:56 am
I’d expect them to try and trade Lowe to free up some cash, then make a run at Matt Holliday.
Robert
on September 13, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Because there will be teams lined up to take on Lowe’s ridiculous contract.
He’s all ours folks for the next three seasons. Might as well get used to it.
Parish
on September 13, 2009 at 1:14 pm
So, what was Heyward’s line in the final game of the G-Braves playoff series?
sdp
on September 13, 2009 at 1:29 pm
@16: I believe the Braves could trade him, but it won’t be a hand-washing trade. They’ll likely have to take on 40-50% of that contract.
csg
on September 13, 2009 at 1:56 pm
I think the Braves could move Lowe if they ate just $2-3 mil per for his contract
why can we beat up on Oswalt and Carpenter, but Kip Wells and others can shut us down. This is a frustrating team. Get swept at home vs the reds and sweep the Cards away…unreal
Brian J.
on September 13, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Oh, why couldn’t we have had this offense in the first half? Or the last three weeks?
sdp
on September 13, 2009 at 1:59 pm
This will be the best Braves team that ever missed the playoffs.
Brian J.
on September 13, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Well, sdp, I’d probably go with the 1983 team for that honor, or maybe 1974, if you mean quality throughout the season. But after the trades for McLouth and anti-Francoeur, this team might be better than those ones.
Adam. (You don’t get capitals when we’re already up by eight.)
Rufino Linares
on September 13, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Looking at the boxscore on ESPN, Diaz has reached base 3 times apparently but with only one hit and no walks. Has he been HBP twice or is the boxscore wrong?
serena williams = class, what a joke
I want Hudson AND Vazquez. Is there really no way to keep both of them?
Vazquez
Hudson
Jurrjens
Hanson
Lowe
That team would be unstoppable.
Lowe 15
Vazquez 11.5
Hudson 12
Chipper 13
Kawakami7.33
Mccann 5.67
Mclouth 5
Infante 1.85
Ross 1.6
Diaz 3
Jurrjens0.5
Escobar 0.5
Prado 0.5
Moylan 1
Medlen 0.5
Church 3.5
Hanson 0.5
Heyward 0.5
Conrad 0.5
O’Flaherty0.5
84.45 mil
it is possible. that would leave only about 10 million to cover 5 positions (this is just my best guess to the 20 that would have a “for sure” roster spot if huddy and vazquez were both kept). the braves could take a big gamble on freeman at first for 2010 and use the current pitching depth in the organization to fill out the holes, using an “in-house” closer. i think that might be too risky.
Haha too bad Serena
Not only should we not have hope, but since most of America will be watching football nobody will be paying attention anyway. Go Falcons?
As Mac points out, Sutter killed us from the time we signed him thru the rest of the decade. This guy is in the HOF and Dale Murphy isn’t, if that’s not a reason to hate him as a Brave fan, I don’t know what is.
@5:
I’m pretty sure the Braves are more worthy of hope than the Falcons. If those guys get 9 wins, I’ll call this season a success.
UT simply cannot continue with Crompton as their QB. He single-handedly cost them a game they should have won with relative ease.
@2, not with this outfield and a bunch of singles hitters and with McLouth hitting .260 and/or hurt every other day. Until we find some right-handed power, this team will be around .500
Surely we will attempt to trade DLowe? I like the guy, but not at $15 mil.
That and Chipper’s $13 limit our options pretty severely.
This wretched economy is going to cause cuts in many markets and I suspect one of them is ours.
Heyward may have to play just for the sake of the budget.
An outfield of Heyward, Diaz and McLouth ain’t terrible (defensively or offensively). With a decent season from Chipper and LaRoche, we can lean on our pitching to fight for a WC.
Still think KJ can be a valuable part of this team, but I don’t think Bobby agrees.
Are we really going to start next year looking like we are ending this year? Sigh.
Obviously, the Braves need more offense, but some act as if this is the worst team of all time and that it’s impossible for them to add power. The team has improved and there is every chance they will improve more next year. I don’t get this, we’re out of it, so who cares attitude?
Realistically, the Braves are probably the fifth or sixth best team in the league right now. They can get better.
I was really enjoying this team for a while. Right up until that Padres series.
It isn’t over til the fat lady sings. If the braves could go 15-5 in the next 20 games I think that will put them right there for the NL EAST title. With 3 games against the phillies (they could win the series and own the tie break), 3 against the marlins, and 7 against the nats, I don’t think 15-5 is out of the question
Unless Heyward flops in the AFL and again in ST, I expect to see him in RF to start next year. I also expect to see LaRoche back at 1B. Other than that, I expect the team to basically be the same as now, with the RF platoon becoming the LF platoon, KJ maybe getting traded, and some shuffling in the bullpen.
I’d expect them to try and trade Lowe to free up some cash, then make a run at Matt Holliday.
Because there will be teams lined up to take on Lowe’s ridiculous contract.
He’s all ours folks for the next three seasons. Might as well get used to it.
So, what was Heyward’s line in the final game of the G-Braves playoff series?
@16: I believe the Braves could trade him, but it won’t be a hand-washing trade. They’ll likely have to take on 40-50% of that contract.
I think the Braves could move Lowe if they ate just $2-3 mil per for his contract
why can we beat up on Oswalt and Carpenter, but Kip Wells and others can shut us down. This is a frustrating team. Get swept at home vs the reds and sweep the Cards away…unreal
Oh, why couldn’t we have had this offense in the first half? Or the last three weeks?
This will be the best Braves team that ever missed the playoffs.
Well, sdp, I’d probably go with the 1983 team for that honor, or maybe 1974, if you mean quality throughout the season. But after the trades for McLouth and anti-Francoeur, this team might be better than those ones.
The season isn’t over fellas…
1994.
Also, Jason Elam sucks.
Good grief Javy Vazquez is some kinda good.
Forgive my ignorance of older Braves’ teams–I don’t really remember anything concrete before 1998.
The Braves haven’t won today’s game yet.
Like I said before… if this team somehow pulls 15-5 out of their ass to finish the season they will be right there with the phillies for the division
Who’s the Cy Young candidate here, anyway?
For someone with as slow footspeed as Yunel, he is very quick!
Javier is averaging less than 10 pitches per inning. This is as sharp as I’ve ever seen him!
geez, give Ross the AB’s that Norton has got this year and we’ve got probably 3-5 more wins.
I.do.not.want.to.trade.Vazquez.
Ew! Boog, did you hear what you just said?
Bobby better let Vazquez finish this game.
Adam. (You don’t get capitals when we’re already up by eight.)
Looking at the boxscore on ESPN, Diaz has reached base 3 times apparently but with only one hit and no walks. Has he been HBP twice or is the boxscore wrong?
Yes, he’s been hit by pitches twice.
A 9-inning complete game? Shutout? Do those still exist on this team?
@39: You mean, do those still exist on Bobby’s team?
A 9-inning complete game? Shutout? Do those still exist on this team?
Nope.
Spoke too soon, Dan.
Damn it, Javy. You just reinforced Bobby’s penchant for shafting his starters.
So we sweep the Cardinals and get a complete game. This hope stuff is very tempting, Mac. And our remaining schedule does nothing to discourage it.
Recap up. Keep hope dead!
“ANYTHING’S POSSIBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!” – KG