With the off-day tomorrow and a doubleheader on Tuesday, I’m thinking McCann may start today but get one game off on Tuesday. I can’t wrap my head around the notion of Corky Miller starting two games out of three….
Nick
on May 18, 2008 at 10:44 am
From the previous thread:
Comparing Tim Hudson to Chuck James in any way is not something I would advise doing if your goal is to sound like you know what you’re talking about. Everyone’s forgetting that he looks good far more often than he looks terrible. He probably is more of a #2 starter than an ace, but that’s the least of our problems in this rotation.
We absolutely need to make a trade for a starter at some point. It doesn’t have to be an ace, but the trade does have to be made. Yes, we will give up a minor league prospect or two. Yes, it has to be done if we want to do anything this year. And if I hear somebody say that we’re out of it so hold onto the prospects, I may throw something. We’re three games out. The trade has to be made. We cannot build from within for this one. We don’t have anybody who’s ready yet within the system, and even if we did, we need a slightly more reliable starter than that.
ryan c
on May 18, 2008 at 11:08 am
mccann in the lineup. looks to be the same as last night. let’s hope the results are different.
good article on heyward. hey, maybe we’ll be talking about a stopgap at first after this season until heyward is available in 2010. the kid sounds like the real thing, attitude and all. let’s hope he, mccann, morton, jojo, schafer, and francoeur are ready to lead the next generation because there’s only 3 left in the old stock.
Unfortunately, it will take a lot more than that to get a decent starter will cost much more than a couple of minor league prospects.
I agree that no should confuse Hudson with James and it would be nice to land another starter.
However, after watching the first quarter of the season, I really wonder if another quality starter would make much of a difference. Pitching has not been the problem: the Braves have the 4th lowest ERA in baseball and the lowest in the NL.
Getting timely hits, in contrast, appears to be a nearly insuperable problem….
Stephen
on May 18, 2008 at 11:24 am
Ryan C–Thanks for the links: the article on Heyward is a good one….
Mike
on May 18, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Anyone think AJ Burnett or Brad Penny would be available? Both are in contract years, right?
Cliff
on May 18, 2008 at 12:36 pm
A right handed power hitter (whether by Tex as a right hander or Francoeur waking up or from outside) is a more desparate need than any pitching.
Righthanded, Chipper becomes Wade Boggs. That is, he maintains batting average and OBP, but his power goes away. Lefty starters and LOOGY’s are DEVASTATING us. Lefties take away Kotsay, KJ (to an extent), Blanco.
Maybe Barbaro can be called up for the AL park games to DH against lefties?
Brandon
on May 18, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Well, no more torture from Chucky, it’s Campillo’s turn to audition for the 5th starter’s position. I’m not sure if I’d rather have Bennett or Campillo starting.
Pitching may not be a problem now, but it will be if we don’t get another mid-level starter. Unless Reyes just locks in, if that’s the case we might be able to get through it, but that doesn’t really seem all that likely, and if he doesn’t, another starter is a must. I’m not talking an ace here, I’m talking a N0. 3 or 4 guy.
Eric
on May 18, 2008 at 2:08 pm
What makes you think Jo-Jo can’t be that No. 3 or 4. He is a top rated prospect, and really looks to have turned a corner this year
Yea but he still only threw 92 pitches. Kids on my high school team throw more without tiring
Fulton County Bombers
on May 18, 2008 at 2:22 pm
What’s the website with HoF predictability and all?
Smitty
on May 18, 2008 at 2:22 pm
I don’t think we are teaching a “strikeout” pitch in the minor leagues. Guys like Jo-Jo and Chuck James can get ahead of guys, but can’t put them away. Thus leading to more pitches getting fouled off and higher pitch counts trhough five innings. Plus, in the minors they hold these guys to strick 100 pitch counts, so they are condiditoned to tire around that mark.
Piers
on May 18, 2008 at 2:23 pm
So isn’t the obvious solution to have James/JoJo as a 5th starter tandem? One starts and goes 5, then the other comes in and throws 4 – swap each outing who starts and who comes in.
Tom
on May 18, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Nice job by Bennett.
Piers
on May 18, 2008 at 2:24 pm
And yes, my suggestion is a little crazy, but since the 6th inning worries are so predictable…
Stephen
on May 18, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Cody Johnson is only 19 and last year utterly dominated the Appalachian League; its too early to dismiss him as ‘trade bait’.
My guess is that he will always have a high strikeout rate, but have tons of power. I can see him becoming something between Phil Plantier and Adam Dunn, which is to say that he has a real chance to be a useful player.
Here’s another thing… Heyward and Freeman are both 18, and two of the youngest players in their league. Heyward is also one of the best players in the league, and Freeman isn’t far behind.
Smitty
on May 18, 2008 at 2:46 pm
I predict that Howard and Freeman will be brought up next June when our first baseman (Sean Casey) and our left field combo (Brian Jordan/ Ron Gant, depending who doesn’t have Sport South duty) are hitting .178 with one home run.
Stephen
on May 18, 2008 at 2:47 pm
The interesting thing about Rome is not only do they possess Heyward, Freeman, Johnson (and now Gilmore) and Coe, but 8 strong starting pitching prospects and, yet, they are having trouble winning.
In any event, it has been a long time since the Braves had so many top prospects on one roster….
They’re having trouble winning because their older players aren’t playing well.
Smitty
on May 18, 2008 at 2:49 pm
We will sign Casey in December and hear all winter how good he was becasue he was on the Red Sox. DOB and Peanut will crap their pants and talk about is “Great glove” and “under rated power.”
Smitty
on May 18, 2008 at 2:50 pm
Is it me, or does Tex dive for everything. Even curveballs?
Nice win for the Braves…Infante really came up big.
Seat Painter
on May 18, 2008 at 3:28 pm
I think we ought to use a Vulcan mind-merge on Acosta and Ohman when Soriano comes off the DL. he could be Willnny Acostman. Plus, this would be Acostman’s second save.
barrycuda
on May 18, 2008 at 3:29 pm
nice win? hell, its a nice win when these guys beat anybody.. i try to keep up, but this A’s team has about 4 players i’ve heard of before this weekend.
Hanan
on May 18, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Nice series win…..but just one question. Is Blanco still considered fast if he gets caught in a no-throw rundown by Chad Gaudin? 😉
drewdat
on May 18, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Do you think Bobby knows the save rule (prefaced with that I didn’t)?
Well, you would think that a professional journalist with forty years experience employed as an official scorer would know the save rule, and he doesn’t. Bobby’s been in baseball since before saves were invented, and he may not know all the ins and outs.
so you mean that we have to watch out for devine throwing roadside bombs along with that “nasty” slider that he never threw for us?
It could always be worse. The Human Pitching Machine Chuck James could be on the mound
The Braves have looked rather wooden and languid on Sundays….at least a ‘terrorist plot’ might have the advantage of waking up the offense….
With the off-day tomorrow and a doubleheader on Tuesday, I’m thinking McCann may start today but get one game off on Tuesday. I can’t wrap my head around the notion of Corky Miller starting two games out of three….
From the previous thread:
Comparing Tim Hudson to Chuck James in any way is not something I would advise doing if your goal is to sound like you know what you’re talking about. Everyone’s forgetting that he looks good far more often than he looks terrible. He probably is more of a #2 starter than an ace, but that’s the least of our problems in this rotation.
We absolutely need to make a trade for a starter at some point. It doesn’t have to be an ace, but the trade does have to be made. Yes, we will give up a minor league prospect or two. Yes, it has to be done if we want to do anything this year. And if I hear somebody say that we’re out of it so hold onto the prospects, I may throw something. We’re three games out. The trade has to be made. We cannot build from within for this one. We don’t have anybody who’s ready yet within the system, and even if we did, we need a slightly more reliable starter than that.
mccann in the lineup. looks to be the same as last night. let’s hope the results are different.
http://www.ajc.com/braves/content/sports/braves/stories/2008/05/17/brinsider_0518.html
good article on heyward. hey, maybe we’ll be talking about a stopgap at first after this season until heyward is available in 2010. the kid sounds like the real thing, attitude and all. let’s hope he, mccann, morton, jojo, schafer, and francoeur are ready to lead the next generation because there’s only 3 left in the old stock.
sorry for the triple post, but it looks like dale murphy’s son is also trying out for his dad’s old team. wouldnt that be something if he signs with the braves.
http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/braves/stories/2008/05/17/murphy_0518.html
“we will give up a minor league prospect or two”
Unfortunately, it will take a lot more than that to get a decent starter will cost much more than a couple of minor league prospects.
I agree that no should confuse Hudson with James and it would be nice to land another starter.
However, after watching the first quarter of the season, I really wonder if another quality starter would make much of a difference. Pitching has not been the problem: the Braves have the 4th lowest ERA in baseball and the lowest in the NL.
Getting timely hits, in contrast, appears to be a nearly insuperable problem….
Ryan C–Thanks for the links: the article on Heyward is a good one….
Anyone think AJ Burnett or Brad Penny would be available? Both are in contract years, right?
A right handed power hitter (whether by Tex as a right hander or Francoeur waking up or from outside) is a more desparate need than any pitching.
Righthanded, Chipper becomes Wade Boggs. That is, he maintains batting average and OBP, but his power goes away. Lefty starters and LOOGY’s are DEVASTATING us. Lefties take away Kotsay, KJ (to an extent), Blanco.
Maybe Barbaro can be called up for the AL park games to DH against lefties?
Well, no more torture from Chucky, it’s Campillo’s turn to audition for the 5th starter’s position. I’m not sure if I’d rather have Bennett or Campillo starting.
http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/braves/stories/2008/05/17/bravesnot_0518.html
That was an awful call.
Yeah!!
McCann’s just great. So is that curveball — I love curveballs. More curveballs!
Roger? Where are you?
Nice job Jo Jo.
Maybe Jo Jo is learning to cope with the big leagues….
Lets get some runs…
Yet Kelly can’t sac bunt for the life of him
Bunting time! How will Joseph screw it up?
Go Jo Jo!!
An excellent way to celebrate your first major league hit, that.
McCann the man!
Way to wear it.
So, that’s two baserunners thrown out trying to advance for us, one picked off for them.
Heyward is NOT playing 1st.
As a matter of fact, Freeman is putting up better #s at Rome than Heyward.
Heyward will be out future LF.
Freeman at 1st.
Cody Johnson is trade bait. Hopefully.
In point of fact, while Freeman is playing well, he isn’t putting up better numbers than Heyward.
Also, the R-Braves are a terrible team.
Pitching may not be a problem now, but it will be if we don’t get another mid-level starter. Unless Reyes just locks in, if that’s the case we might be able to get through it, but that doesn’t really seem all that likely, and if he doesn’t, another starter is a must. I’m not talking an ace here, I’m talking a N0. 3 or 4 guy.
What makes you think Jo-Jo can’t be that No. 3 or 4. He is a top rated prospect, and really looks to have turned a corner this year
Well, the fact that he’s going Chuck in the sixth inning leads me to doubt that he’s going to be a rotation anchor.
Why do all of our pitchers turn awful after 5?
They calculate their ERA on their fingers, and get confused once the innings get to six.
Throwin 22+ pitches in the second inning killed any chance Jo-Jo had of going 6
Oy.
Yea but he still only threw 92 pitches. Kids on my high school team throw more without tiring
What’s the website with HoF predictability and all?
I don’t think we are teaching a “strikeout” pitch in the minor leagues. Guys like Jo-Jo and Chuck James can get ahead of guys, but can’t put them away. Thus leading to more pitches getting fouled off and higher pitch counts trhough five innings. Plus, in the minors they hold these guys to strick 100 pitch counts, so they are condiditoned to tire around that mark.
So isn’t the obvious solution to have James/JoJo as a 5th starter tandem? One starts and goes 5, then the other comes in and throws 4 – swap each outing who starts and who comes in.
Nice job by Bennett.
And yes, my suggestion is a little crazy, but since the 6th inning worries are so predictable…
Cody Johnson is only 19 and last year utterly dominated the Appalachian League; its too early to dismiss him as ‘trade bait’.
My guess is that he will always have a high strikeout rate, but have tons of power. I can see him becoming something between Phil Plantier and Adam Dunn, which is to say that he has a real chance to be a useful player.
Hey, how come we’re playing a fake double-header Tuesday when we and the Mets both have off-days tomorrow?
Here’s another thing… Heyward and Freeman are both 18, and two of the youngest players in their league. Heyward is also one of the best players in the league, and Freeman isn’t far behind.
I predict that Howard and Freeman will be brought up next June when our first baseman (Sean Casey) and our left field combo (Brian Jordan/ Ron Gant, depending who doesn’t have Sport South duty) are hitting .178 with one home run.
The interesting thing about Rome is not only do they possess Heyward, Freeman, Johnson (and now Gilmore) and Coe, but 8 strong starting pitching prospects and, yet, they are having trouble winning.
In any event, it has been a long time since the Braves had so many top prospects on one roster….
They’re having trouble winning because their older players aren’t playing well.
We will sign Casey in December and hear all winter how good he was becasue he was on the Red Sox. DOB and Peanut will crap their pants and talk about is “Great glove” and “under rated power.”
Is it me, or does Tex dive for everything. Even curveballs?
BOYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
15 straight shutout innings for the bullpen, including a 2-inning outing for resuck yesterday.
#48–Also, some of the pitchers have struggled. Does anybody out there know that has happened to Evarts?
I would ealk Chipper so that Tex can hit in to a double play
*walk not ealk
What the heck, ealk him too.
Should have ealked Teixeira.
Wow, is that Tex’s first hit with someone on base this year?
Does ealk count on you OBP?
Only in certain circumstances.
Good play by Petite
Please walk Frenchy
Please ealk Frenchy
Fuck
Frenchy sucks. Horrible.
jeff looks to have a hitch in his swing. did anyone else see his elbow drop?
Frenchy another K…why am I not surprised…and I don’t think that a ‘day off” would make the slightest difference…
Is there a worse clutch hitter than Frenchy? He has replaced Andruw as the team leader in key/bad strikeouts
Wow, good move by Bobby
I was going to complain about hitting for KJ, but I guess it worked. Should have ealked him.
Infante!!
Frenchy has a slidder speed bat
infante? i didnt know diaz was ran over by a garbage truck on the way to the park today… as i say this somehow he gets a triple
I was shocked that Diaz didn’t pinch hit, esp. since he’s been killing lefties. But, that’s why BC makes the big bucks and I don’t.
Slidder and ealked.
If Infante had ealked, I bet Diaz would have hit for Blanco
Ew, I don’t know that you want to ealk someone with a slidder. Better use a fatsball instead.
I am glad that my typos have made it into Braves Journal vocab.
Ohman will ealk the bases loaded with slidders
No problems Snitty. Glad to hepl!
LOL
You know, “intentional walk” is kind of a long way to say it. I propose that from now on, the IBB should be called the “ealk”.
looks like Bobby just gained 50 IQ points by batting Infante or KJ.
Ugh. Come on Bobby, have have Sith to do!
All together now: “This is not a save situation”. Maybe the official scorer has learned his lesson.
I second it Mac
This umpire behind the plate has been terrible
Okay, “ealk” has been added to the glossary.
Accosta is trying to make this interesting….
Skip: “time to tend to our knitting” Ha! I love that guy.
This may become a save situation for someone else.
Sure, it’s a save situation now.
One more pitch and Joe’s dog jokes end!
SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Nice win for the Braves…Infante really came up big.
I think we ought to use a Vulcan mind-merge on Acosta and Ohman when Soriano comes off the DL. he could be Willnny Acostman. Plus, this would be Acostman’s second save.
nice win? hell, its a nice win when these guys beat anybody.. i try to keep up, but this A’s team has about 4 players i’ve heard of before this weekend.
Nice series win…..but just one question. Is Blanco still considered fast if he gets caught in a no-throw rundown by Chad Gaudin? 😉
Do you think Bobby knows the save rule (prefaced with that I didn’t)?
Recap is up.
And I don’t think Bobby knows the save rule, and I doubt that he really cares a whole lot, and that’s a good thing.
Of course Bobby knows the save rule. He is a Major League manager. You are right that he probably doesn’t care.
Well, you would think that a professional journalist with forty years experience employed as an official scorer would know the save rule, and he doesn’t. Bobby’s been in baseball since before saves were invented, and he may not know all the ins and outs.