Well, back to normal, or what passes for normal around here.
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Well, back to normal, or what passes for normal around here.
Use code “Journal” for a 5% discount.
What happened to Renteria. Was having sex at the time he was injured, LOL. /serious
Priorities…
Good to know, KLB. As the announcers said, he could stay in and pinch hit if this goes late (God forbid.)
I get it, Land. That’s part of my point.
I like that they’re talking about “improving your craftsmanship” and being professional, and they cut to whoever it was on the bench eating a damn dum-dum pop.
Give Simpson credit–he suggested Mahay (a former ML outfielder) should have been the PH if he was going to come in the game to pitch.
Of course, a broken watch …
Chief, congrats I will be as soon as this is over…priorities!
Spraigned ankle on a perfect DP ball, he fell over himself
Did it look serious as in DL serious or the dreaded day to day?
does it really matter what pitcher PH’s?
Kazoo is on deck.
Chief Nocahoma,
I want you to know that that’s probably the funniest post I’ve ever seen on here, edging out some of jac holtzman’s classics.
csg,
Maybe we could carry Hampton as the official out of players pitcher pinch hitter…
A post coital Braves Journal session. Your lady’s understanding.
he was real slow off the field, Porter had to keep him balanced, but he walked off by himself. No way he plays tomorrow or the next day I would think
Can a pitcher get a hold, win, and a save in the same game? For instance comes in the top of the 8th tied game, holds them, team scores in the bottom and gives him the win, he saves the game in the top of 9?
please end this, we deserve this sweep
She’s still sad Salty’s gone… They’re dead to her. Of course she goes by handsomeness not by ability… She says Tex is ugly, lol..
No uglier than Corey Hart.
I showed her a picture of Otis Nixon once. She laughed out loud..
Who is the ugliest baseball player ever? Willie McGee?
Willie, do we send him or bunt him over? hit and run?
Willie McGee and when Sam Cassell played Dixie Youth.
The 93 Phillies may be the ugliest team.
I think I almost would rather have Diaz swinging
Otis Nixon was an ugly guy
Diaz just swing
Derek Bell.
Randy Johnson.
Julian Tavarez
Deadspin had a post about that once:
http://deadspin.com/sports/baseball/the-ugliest-baseball-player-of-all-time-149269.php
Bad Diaz.
Have none of you ever seen Ezekial Astacio, former Astro? Clearly the ugliest man to ever play professional sports.
Meek.
Wow, Chip. That was awesome.
okay Don Mossi wins
http://www.minorleaguenews.com/graphics/baseball/Graphics/2005/08/FAB50/playertops/39Astacio.jpg
That gets my vote.
I agree Rob, that’s actually a flattering picture of a man with a horribly, horribly disfigured face.
Jorge Cantu is pretty ugly.
I like that I sort of discredited someone earlier today about Willie not playing 3B at all this year, and viola… there he is.
so Chipper hurt his hand again on that lat swing? this game needs to hurry up and end or our whole team will be on the DL
That’s voila, not viola. He was a pitcher for the Twins.
I wouldn’t mind if the Braves signed Ron Mahay to a contract extension for 2008.
Wow Chipper looked good on that play at short.
Yeah, might have to call up the Richmond team for tomorrow at this rate.
Ok you got me on a “typo” (aka idiocy) there Richard. I guess it’s also a large, classical stringed instrument too =P
Tex to lead off the 11th.
Can we just win this damn game already?
Cantu: http://www.rivalfish.com/rivalroom/uploaded_images/cantubat_1-740027.jpg
how does a reliever have a 5.13ERA and has pitched 13 straight scoreless innings….you know what leadoff walks mean
End it!
Just don’t hit into a DP, ‘Druw.
“As you know, leadoff walks usually come around to score, unless they don’t.”
-Chip Caray
“As you know, in extra innings, lead off walks usually score unless they don’t.”
I love chip.
I heard that Dan. I sort of laughed, sort of cringed.
recap
Andruw hurt his hand or elbow
Renteria spraigned ankle
Chipper hurt hand
Harris ran into the wall twice
Wickman tried to break his ankle
MCCann hit by a pitch
anything else
wow.
Andruw is hurting by the way
walk and lets get to Frenchy
Andruw sucks.
I’m losing hair and years of my life.
“anything else”
Smoltz said on television earlier today that his shoulder hurts but he’s going to keep on pitching.
These injuries are starting to slightly worry me.
Andruw’s hurt. You weren’t saying he sucked when he hit that HR.
tomorrow’s lineup
Escobar
Harris
Woodward
Tex
Johnson
Francoeur
Diaz
Miller (day off for McCann)
Now Francoeur.
That’s still not a horrible line-up, csg. Could be worse.
OH GREAT.
great now Frenchy got hit
wowsers….time to end the game
Don’t say the U word, Chip!
Amazing. We make the biggest trade of the deadline and 72 hours later it feels like the year’s going up in smoke.
you think that got the bottom of the bat, Im hoping that was a good acting job
Alright, KJ, get a hit, get outta here & let’s get some ice on Frenchy’s hand.
Please Kelly Johnson, end it.
Mercy.
this sucks!
Bullshit.
How many of these nightmare games can one team have?
Well hey, at least we…no, there’s no good news.
Mahay for another, the longer this goes the worse I feel
KJ’s gotta work on those K’s. Granted, last one was a fluke, but he needs to tighten up.
lefty to Berkman and Lee, im scared
We play extras like Mike Shula’s Bama teams played SEC overtimes.
Game over.
This is torture.
And of course, we’ll barely see the potential game-deciding play because TBS has already ditched the Braves for the rest of MLB.
Great.
thats game
We always lose these games. Always.
Good night.
Did he even bend over?
What the hell was that Kelly Johnson?!
All these injuries and nothing to show for it.
unbelievable!!!!
This is a deflating loss.
Game over. Pathetic.
I don’t understand why we continue to waste the bullpen on these extra-inning games. The offense always completely shuts down after 9, so there’s no use in ruining these guys’ arms. Let’s just start forfeiting if we can’t win in 9.
We’re going to lose a game to virtually everyone tonight. This effing sucks.
Did McCann not get charged with an error on that pitch, btw, his defense is lousy! That should be 4 errors
Defense lost this game, not Mahay. Although, if you wanted to say it was Reyes or Soriano I wouldn’t object.
I swear these extra inning games could go 25 at home and the Braves still would never get the winning run in.
Passed ball, it was.
This is easily the low point of the season. Which sounds ridiculous, given all the reasons for optimism coming in. Still, all these injuries and blowing a game in which we had a 4-run lead in the 8th, plus more wasted wear and tear on the bullpen arms…incredibly deflating.
This is the kind of loss that takes a week for this team to overcome. And a week of bad baseball means there’s no hope for winning the division.
so wouldnt the one by KJ be #4
so Mahay will get the loss after this, this is something that needs to be addressed
And Mahay would get the loss. That’s just plain unjust.
Yeah, Mahay earned my respect tonight. Welcome, Ron. Hopefully, we won’t destroy your arm by the end of the season. Or the week.
Insect,
I agree, this sucks, but that’s a bit drastic. Having a pitcher than can go more than 3 innings will help immensely.
They should let him have one free kick to Soriano’s crotch. Then again, we have enough hurt guys.
put Hudson in to run
Welcome to Atlanta, Corky. That was only the fifth most bizarre thing I’ve seen today.
corky was like a bullet to 1st
I bet Bobby sends him on the next pitch.
just a hit here
Corky, God damn what now?
If Willie didn’t try to hit everything in the air, he might’ve had a prayer against Lidge.
yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YES!!
What is going on here??? WIN THIS!
that was awesome
11-11 DIAZ!!!!!! there is justice for Mahay
As Jim Valvano once said, “Never give up, don’t ever give up.”
Forget Rudy Giuliani or Hillary Clinton…
Matt Diaz 2008!
come on chipper. end it
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE
You’ve got to be s——- me
all because of Corky Miller’s, off all people, infield hit
Hahaha!!
corky corky corky!
okay, this is officially the weirdest game of the season.
Hey Lidge remember Pujols???? now you can dream of Diaz at night
life goes on!
tex, end it
It’s walk off time for Teix!
CMON TEX!!! give Lidge something else to think about!!!
nice csg
Only the vulture left in the pen?
now Andruw gets to hurt himself a little more
let Chipper try and run?
no offense but we could care less about Richmond get Pena up here…Corky is the SLOWEST person I’ve ever seen
Dare I say it but this team seems destined. Knock on wood…
No running. People get hurt when they run. I’ve had enough of that tonight.
Give it up, Lidge!
This team is such a tease!
Oscar will either shut them down or give up like 5 runs, I’m thinking.
I think everyone has run out of things to say. I know I have.
Good thing Diaz isn’t normally allowed to face righties, eh?
How many times has Andruw struck out in a similar situation this year?
I hope we don’t go 18
Smoltz somehow needs to have his best stuff tomorrow, because win or lose tonight … this team will be gassed.
Leadoff walk. Great start, dipshit.
This is going to be a brutal loss for somebody.
“Well, back to normal, or what passes for normal around here.”
Jesus Christ I hope not.
Leadoff walk. We’re going to be vultured.
we are just watching a movie that we all know what the ending will be, we just want to see how its going to happen
Eighteen extra innings in the last two-plus weeks.
No wonder I can’t get any work done on time.
totally right, csg.
The difference being we’re at home in the extra innings, so who knows? Diaz just proved we can scrap a few runs together late.
Come on — one more!
Wigginton. I don’t like this matchup.
Willie! Nice!
Stumbling Willie saves the day…
Er, wait a minute… Heh
Atta boy, Willie.
We will win it this inning. I know it.
Whew!
Stu, i feel it also….VULTURE VULTURE VULTURE
Willie Harris: Pickin’ Machine
Well, the Braves get yet another chance to win this if they can score JUST ONE FRICKIN’ RUN.
I’m with Stu. We’ve got momentum and we’ve gotta want it by now.
Somebody go deep.
Please?
McCann to lead off
How about a Villarreal walk off homerun?
I’m going with Frenchy for the win. Scary thing is that if (when) anyone gets on, the fourth guy at bat is the Vulture. I hope there is only 1 out if we have to see him bat.
Yay, no Lidge!
btw, Im calling it…sweep!!!
no way McCann plays tomorrow, we’ll have a Miller sighting. We might see all of harris Diaz frenchy in the OF, we’ll have a Woodward Yunel Kj Thorman infield, good luck Smoltz
What did Bobby yell?
Oceanside,
You lose
dont argue
Booby and Francouer mom are probably the only two people in the world that call him Jeffrey
We might have to call up the entire Richmond team to be able to play Friday.
I’m pulling for Dan now….
Dan,
Here’s your shot.
at least Oscar wont lead off next inning
Come on, Villarreal walk off!
dont swing here
OSCAR
OSCAR!
Well…he got a hit.
Holy crap!
Single is fine *laughs* Willie can get a hit just fine.
OSCAr!!!!
This isn’t quite Rick Camp territory, but it’s getting close.
Harris you dont swing either, hey it worked last time!
Is Wigginton wearing cement boots or what?
Come on, Willie … you can get the Vulture a win he’ll actually have earned for a change.
Harris HR for the cycle and the win
Oscar should be our #5 starter, since he can hit too. Then you can call up Rings… we got ourselves a plan. Now let’s win a ballgame.
Oscar hits, we’re destined!!
On to the 14th. Good lord.
terrible, swing the bat
way to watch it go by willie
This game defies logic.
I’m done with Willie Harris.
Villarreal looked more like a hitter than Harris there.
What are the odds of a walkoff homer from Willie Harris off Billy Wagner?
Was that really a strike? Does this ump not want to go home?
Anyone who suffered through 2003 Bama football with me understands the nature of this team in extra innings.
We’re not winning. I’ll stay up and watch anyway, but we’re not winning.
This umpire has been awful. Both the Braves and Astros should file some sort of protest after the game
I don’t know, Chuck. We’ve got this far. Why can’t we win? If we have to, I think we can stick a starter out there.
I thought that was a strike to Willie. Which isn’t to say he hasn’t been awful tonight—I just didn’t disagree with that last call.
Rissa, that ball was right down the middle
I just wonder why they don’t stick a starter out there already. Who has the most rest?
The Braves always start sucking everytime TBS shows the Barry Bonds split screen.
Why can’t we win? Well, anything’s possible. But we’re 1-4 in these extra-inning games since the Reds series. Hardly a promising trend.
do we have to see Barry get walked?
Smoltz does. Bad idea.
This TBS Bonds watch is beyond rediculous
Yeah, I guess so, but the Astros are probably suffering too. They seem to be in control, but the Braves have Diaz, Chipper and Teixeira up in the bottom of the inning. This thing is hardly over.
Yeah, this ump doesn’t want to go home.
The only plausible starter is Hudson, and I don’t see any reason to torpedo Saturday for a marginally better chance of pulling this game out. This isn’t a playoff game. It’s all Vulture, all night.
I think Oscar goes until somebody wins or loses. And he knows that.
Willie Harris tonight: 3×8, single, double, triple, 2 RBI, 3 K, 6 LOB
Sheesh, now Jason Jennings is pinch-hitter.
Jennings cant pitch, hopefully he cant hit either
Walk this guy! Jason Jennings is on-deck!
Remember 9-5?
Hudson is the only other option
Who the heck is going to pitch for the Astros in the bottom of the inning?
Ensberg hit two HR’s by the way
Defeated by Jason Jennings.
BOOO!!!
Oh, yeah. Who expected that?
Well, we still have the bottom of the inning.
Albers who has pitched the last two games, and not very effectively either
It isn’t over, not by a longshot.
I don’t want to be beaten because of Jason F. Jennings pinch-hitting.
Great, we’ll tie the game, leave two men on and this nightmare will continue. I thought I had a bad overnight yesterday when I had a nightmare about an anthropormorphic, 6-foot-6 lizard sitting on my toilet farting fire. This game is far worse.
Crunch time for Diaz, Jones and Teixeira.
Whoever said this game was like a movie we all know the ending to, was right. Good lord. How many failed chances in extra innings can one team have?
Honestly, Sam, I expected that.
I also expect we’ll win in the bottom of the inning.
question, do you rest everyone tomorrow and hope that Smoltz shuts them down?
Teixera time
The Astros don’t have this game in the bag, that’s the bottom line. It isn’t over. Buck up. We can win this.
Bizarre enough that the Astros have 12 runs on 11 hits.
We might have 21 hits and lose.
I agree. All the right people coming up. Go Braves!
I’m not thinking that way. We can win this.
Tying it is almost worse than losing at this point. All or nothing.
If we won that silly game in SF, we can win this one.
Can Brian Moehler get 3 outs before we score?
STOP LOOKING AT F-ING STRIKES
Single!
nice
diaz is the man
thank you.
Diaz!
end it chipper
Unbelievable.
Agreed, 742.
great chipper
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Never expected that from Chipper. Bah.
Damn Chipper Jones. Your recent double play binge is killing the Braves.
He can’t win the game, Chip, there’s no one on base!
“Can he hit another home run here, and win the game?”
No, moron, b/c a HR would tie the game.
No Chip, Tex can’t win the game with a homerun…jeez
As much as I despise Chip now, I’ll give him a free pass after four hours, 59 minutes of watching this.
I didn’t bother to say that. It’s expected, isn’t it?
And that’s not the dumbest thing he’s said tonight
Eh.
THE NIGHTMARE IS OVER!
what a terrible loss
Worst game this year.
Finally. Pump your fist, chad moeller.
Wow I am pissed.
don’t show that granny again
No Chip, that was not entertaining. That was miserable.
Well, at least it went on long enough to leave me numb to the loss. This will be tough for the team to rebound from. If anyone can see to it that they do, though, it’s Smoltzie.
Tough loss.
I think we may see Dotel become the 8th inning guy after this one.
frickin’ soriano
766 … seems like we say that every four days or so. How can we consider ourselves a contender with defeats like this?
does mcdowell even talk to soriano?
mcdowell: that fastball right down the middle is your bread and butter.
soriano: ok coach
Back in 3rd, too.
Lawd, that was awful.
Get some sleep guys. We have a game to watch (today) tomorrow.
We lose a game to pretty much everyone.
Insect,
We’ve scored 14, 12, 12 & 11 runs in the past 4 games. We’ll be alright.
This is going to happen once a week when you start guys like 5-inning Chuck James, scrap-heap Buddy Carlyle, and AA pitcher Jose Reyes. They’ve been decent at times, but when 60% of your starting rotation is…less than great…this is just going happen.
There’s been bad ones, but with the injuries and two come from behind rallies, this takes the cake.
Three of those games against Houston, though.
Did anyone else notice Chip calling Moehler’s allowing 6 homers in 37 innings “stingy”?
ububba,
Those also represent the number of relievers we’ve used in all of those games.
F*ck this shit. F*ck you Reyes. F*ck you Soriano. F*ck you Vulture. What a f*cking nightmare.
This team will never make the playoffs. Because they keep losing games like this. When was the last time they pulled out a close game? Seriously, someone needs to make a “best of” with the toughest losses of the year. That would be quite a list.
At least we’re hitting.
…for the first 9 innings.
Our bullpen threw 172 pitches tonight
we won the series, chill…we had our worst pitcher out there tonight and he only went three
Smoltz, hudson and james…lets win the next series
Look on the bright side–2 of our starting pitchers can get out of the 5th inning. That has to count for something.
First 6 innings, actually.
disgruntledfan,
Normally, I’m quite put off by your always-say-die attitude. However, #791 did make me laugh.
It’s not just pitching, the defense sucked tonight and when you have three errors to the other team’s none, then you will probably lose.
And all the errors bit us.
Why is it that this separation between the Braves and Mets always seems to hover around 3 or 4 games, aside from tonight’s loss? This is really disheartening that the team can gain no ground at all and only seems to maintain status quo…of course, dropping another game like this absolutely SUCKS!
Never seem to win these games, never.
How the hell is Mac going to recap this one?
Being 4.5 games back of the Mets and back in third in the division again when leading by four runs in the eighth is what makes this such a horrible loss. It felt like the Braves had all the momentum in the world.
What would have happened if Renteria turned that double play? Willie Harris made an out of that ball hit between his legs at third base? If Kelly Johnson knocked that ball down? How many chances did they have in extras to score just one God forsaken run?
When you think of all the ways the Braves lost this game….
This is like group therapy.
I can’t even begin to rationally explain why I would have bet my last dollar on that exact outcome, but I knew it was going to be that way.
Thanks, stu. I’ll try and lighten up. This team is so much fun!
I blame Bobby for moving Chipper to SS. Keep your starter at third and roll the dice. Instead of having one position at a lower comfort level after the Renty injury, his move made it two. It was cute, but ultimately a dumb move.
You called it, Chuck.
And for the record, I thought it was a dumb move at the time. You can ask the s.o.
I really can’t blame anyone but Soriano. Giving up a grand slam to MIKE LAMB is inexcusable. Anything less than that and–despite all the ridiculous moves–the game’s over.
Dan — agreed. Felt as if we were destined to lose this one no matter what happened.
They played hard but very sloppy. When you go this deep into a game, you HAVE to win it. I’m worried this may send us into a mini losing streak now.
Soriano needs to be used conservatively until the weather gets cold…
he’s the only one that could play shortstop.. willie harris at short? come on
806 – I would have moved KJ to short, Willie to second.
did ny or the phillies pay houston to hurt everyone of our players tonight? that was a wickedly absurd baseball game, and made me VERY ANGRY!!! GRRRRRRRRRR!
Another turning point was Bobby having Diaz try to bunt in his first ab and Diaz not getting it done. I seriously can’t remember one time under Cox where we get the winning run on with no outs and then had a non-pitcher bunt the guy over and we end up winning the game.
I know that is the old-school ‘book’, but it works so rarely that it needs to be re-thought.
Trace,
Willie at SS v. Willie at 3rd is an even bet with me. Chipper is a known value at 3rd, keep him there.
/or done what Tom suggests.
804 I agree…everything he threw to the first 4 hitters that inning was hit like a rocket. Then, somehow, he settled down, but only after he blew the 4 run lead and got Edgar killed. What shocks me that inning is no one, MCann, Chipper, McDowell or Cox, came over to calm him, make a suggestion, whatever at any time during those hitters. Or, is it obvious you don’t leave a fastball over the middle in that spot?
it’s still the same thing, you’re moving two players out of their normal position.
What are the rules about putting a player on the DL when they’re not really injured? Obviously Soriano has been overused by Cox and could probably use multiple days off. I don’t know if he needs 15 days off, but we can’t have his roster spot filled up if he’s not going to pitch for 5+ days.
They should make-up something and put him on the 15-day DL, and bring up Ring/Paronto/Ascanio.
“or do” dang dialect.
Well I don’t know, it was sort of a lose lose situation anyway.
wickman got the number 1 web gem
The Harris thing is being overblown. It was a hard hit ball, but should have been easily handled by a major leaguer with infield exprience. That loss is squarely on 2 guys — Reyes and Soriano.
KLB
I think Bobby does that a lot (i.e. Mark Redman)
first time since 1900 that the braves have had 22+ hits and loss.
first time ever that the astros have allowed 10+ runs in 4 straight games.
Trace,
If you are talking about the second, toss off, suggestion, yes, it is moving 2 players. But again, moving KJ is less of a known quantity than moving Chipper from 3rd. Call me crazy, but I would prefer to keep my anchors in the corners. Keep my rangers in the middle.
In a year full of heart wrenching losses, that one might just take the cake.
As I said during the game, they never seem to be able to win games like this. Sucks for us.
I’m going to be going to the Anderson Joes game tomorrow evening, so I’m not going to post until that game is over, which is just hunky dory with me. I don’t want to revisit this loss ever again.
the astros suck cock; i fucking hate them.
Well this was quick:
Reyes sent down; Cormier recalled
That was quick. Looking at the Braves’ schedule, since they have an off-day on Monday, they’ll probably skip the 5th starter spot and go with this rotation:
8/3 – Smoltz
8/4 – Hudson
8/5 – James
8/6 – Off Day
8/7 – Carlyle
8/8 – Smoltz
8/9 – Hudson
That will let Smoltz and Hudson go against the Mets, and then Cormier could start next Sunday against the Phillies. That will allow Cormier to pitch in relief until then.
I figure we’ll definitely see him against Colorado on Friday in relief of Smoltz, as he was supposed to start on Friday in Richmond. That is, unless Smoltz gives the Braves their first complete game of the season.
And, as an unrelated bonus, I’ll be at the game on Friday.
Soriano Delenda est
I was so Excited about this game and i am still excited about this team… it just sucks that i went to take a bath when the score was 9-5 and when i cam back it was 9-9 its all my fault!!!!! but yeah such is life you win some u lose some. I know we can be the division leader by the end of month go BRAVOS!!!
This is a dagger. After this, I’m pretty much convinced the Braves are not going to make the playoffs. I know the Braves aren’t that far out, but how many of these games can you lose? Maverick’s optimism is nice but I don’t think this is their year. Too many losses like this. It’s obviously the fault of the pitching but, on the other hand, this vaunted offense scored two runs in the last 8 innings. All they needed was one run. How is it possible to lose so many extra-inning games at home when all you have to do is score one run. These guys are finding ways to lose games. You can’t keep squandering opportunities like this; the Braves always talk a good game but you can’t keep blowing games like this.
If you can’t put something together, you aren’t going to make the playoffs. Simple as that. And you can’t win every game by 8 runs. I don’t see any reason to be excited about this team. They are a .500 team and have been for two years. I’m sick of this. Remember, the Nationals are 39-35, while the Braves are 33-40. This is not a good team.
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