Washington Nationals vs. Atlanta Braves – Box Score – October 02, 2009 – ESPN
The Braves lose, and you know what? I’m okay with that. Seriously, now that the season is officially going to end in a couple of days, I can be happy that Derek Lowe didn’t get his sixteenth win because the Braves exploded for a bunch of runs the day after Tommy Hanson pitched his heart out in a no-decision turned loss. I’m petty that way, I guess.
Lowe wasn’t eligible for the win, leaving with two out in the fifth having thrown 106 pitches, walking five and striking out four, allowing eight hits, including a homer, and all six runs, five of them “earned”. He finishes the year with a 4.67 ERA. Here is the complete list of Braves pitchers who have thrown 30 or more innings with a higher ERA this year:
And here’s the complete list, with the same criteria, of those who have a lower strikeout/innings pitched ratio:
Three more years!
The Braves actually led after two, when Ross doubled in Escobar and Infante. Their other run came on a Chipper groundout in the seventh. Did I mention that the winning pitcher was Livan Hernandez? It can be difficult, after putting on a run like the Braves did, to play for no stakes. The Braves actually outhit the Nats, but drew only one walk.
George W. Bush or Derek Lowe?
Crap sdp, you’re not giving us much to work with, are you? How about a response framed as a question:
George W. Bush or Derek Lowe
Who are two individuals we wouldn’t mind being affliated with the Texas Rangers next year?
Let’s avoid the politics, guys.
re: #19 last thread
the cubs would have to be batshit insane to take that deal. Maybe we can swing lowe/KJ/church for Bradley, but there’s no way we get Lee for what you’re suggesting. We’d have to thow in Medlen at the least which I would hate to do because he has value to us at the very least as a setup man
You could have Bradley for free tomorrow if you took on his contract, so it would be basically Lowe for Bradley, but yeah KJ/Church for Lee is a bit, um lean.
Derek Lowe has got to go! I hope that Wren can find a way to move Lowe….Three more years of Lowe might actually be worse than the last years of Mike Hampton. With Hampton the problem was largely confined to the drag imposed by the contract; with Lowe we will get the same kind of drag and the Braves may have to start him every 5th game for the next 3 years….
That sucks about Boog leaving.
Indeed. Kinda ruined my night.
I liked Boog a lot, I’ll miss him too. Here’s hoping we don’t have Chip Caray II for a replacement.
#9–A very depressing prospect….
I like Boog. He is light-years better than Chip, Gant, and Jordan. Damn ESPN.
I am very confident that Wren will be able to move Lowe this offseason.
Frank, call Omar quick!
I’d warmed to Boog as well. Bummer.
And he’s now joined The Dark Side, the ESPN Death Star.
I really hope that Wren can move Lowe….I suppose there are enough teams desperate for pitching help, but 45 million for a pitcher who will be a #3 or a back end of the rotation starter may be a tall order….
Dayton Moore needs a call.
Boog will go from one Joe to another. From Simpson to Morgan.
I think he will miss Joe Simpson.
Yes, I too hope Wren trades Lowe, drops Hudson’s option, Dumps Kawakami on some smart GM and our Braves lose 100 games next year.
On second thought, I’m gonna just laugh out loud at the inane mindless speculation, including my own.
By the way, how many of you morons voted for Barack Obama? I promise not to tell, I’m good at keeping secrets.
p.s. I voted for Ron Paul
C’mon Mac. Dude’s trolling politics now. Drop the freakin’ hammer.
Is this going to be the most worthless Fox game of the season?
Nothing like getting called a moron by a ______.
The thing that gets me is that some of you feel compelled to respond to Coach.
I’ll admit that the inane madness spewing from his keyboard is entertaining in a sort of watching one of your friends beer google kind of way but engaging in refutation of that madness is madness itself. Its plain to me that the man has opinions and no one is going to change them no matter how off base they are.
Cox813 (NJ): What moves should the Braves make this offseason, if any? If you assume that they re-sign LaRoche for a year or two and that Heyward gets called up next year, it would seem that they’re pretty set to compete again. Should they re-sign Hudson?
Joe Sheehan: Hudson’s deal involves an option, which I would pick up because it’s money they have and he’d allow them to trade a starter. I’d advocated moving Jurrjens, but I’m less certain of that now, because while I think there’s risk with him, there’s clearly upside. But he could bring back the kind of hitter the Braves could really use, a talent-under-control like Jurrjens. I don’t know that Vazquez or Lowe brings that kind of player back. Well, I know Lowe doesn’t.
In any case, they need at least two outfielders, even granting Heyward gets there in the summer. Nate McLouth is still a fourth OF masquerading as a starting CF.
Well then, it would seem that we do not have any outfielders at all. Let’s move the walls at the Ted 200 feet closer to home plate and see where that gets us next season.
The BP crowd hates McLouth. You can ignore their comments on him.
If McLouth is a fourth outfielder, what is Francoeur… 8th?
The BP crowd hates McLouth. You can ignore their comments on him.
Well, UZR doesn’t like him very much as a CF (I personally think he is fine). EqA/EqR is a little off this year, mainly because of the drop in slg pct since coming to Atlanta and getting hurt. Assuming he really is a 300EqA/100 EqR player, that puts him in the top 25 – 40 offensively in MLB. Doesn’t seem like a 4th OF to me. Odd that their own stats indicate he’s not bad at all and yet there is no love.
When Baseball Prospectus admits that their methodology is flawed and that every evaluation they’ve ever made of Chipper Jones’ defense is utter bullshit I’ll start considering their opinions on Nate McLouth.
Calling McLouth a 4th outfielder is harsh and ridiculous, but it’s the sort of thing you wind up saying when you’re in a chat and trying to come up with off-the-cuff answers that are slightly interesting.
McLouth has a glove that’s best suited for a corner but a bat that only stands out in center. In a corner, he’s a passably good hitter and a passably good fielder. In center, he’s a very good hitter but not a great fielder — the amazing leaping catch last night notwithstanding.
He isn’t a fourth outfielder by any means. Just not a star.
Every team in the league has at least one starting outfielder worse than McLouth. To say that he’s a fourth outfielder is the sort of analysis you expect of a fan who thinks that his team should be all all-stars.
Joe is a Yankees fan. His perception is skewed.
He’s very bad in the field at Center. And his bat probably won’t play at a corner.
McLouth is a +2 in Plus/Minus this year. I think the -37 last year was a fluke, and I wouldn’t be surprised if the Pirates had been positioning him funny to contribute to the bad rating. He’s no GG, but he’s not that bad. League average offense and defense from your CF. Yeah, that’s not a 4th OF.
He’s certainly better than Melky Cabrera.
I could care less about opinions. I can PgDn with the best of ’em.
But at a certain point, some manners are in order.
The primary problem with every defensive statistic to date is that none of them really account for 1)team by team positionings or 2) year to year fluctuations in performance. It’s just as likely that McLouth’s “-37” from last year is as predictive as Brady Anderson’s 50 home runs in 1996.
MLBTradeRumors says that Bobby Jenks may be available this off season. He’s due around $6M after arbitration….would he be a sensible pick up if Gonzo/Soriano get too pricey?
My own eyes tell me that McLouth isn’t actually bad out there. Not good, mind you, but fine especially when you consider his bat. Sheehan saying he’s a 4th OF is ridiculous.
you know, losing the last 5 games of the season would ruin a lot of the halo effect the second half has had on me.
Can we stop giving up HRs to Norma Desmond?
He’s a decent glove in center, with a good bat. He’s a good glove in the corners with an average bat
WE CAN BUILD ON THIS!
I wouldn’t have known we had a game this afternoon if ububba hadn’t made that comment.
I see our offense has decided to mail it in.
“NATIONALS CENTERFIELDER WILLIE HARRIS LEFT THE GAME IN THE BOTTOM OF THE FIFTH INNING WITH A RIGHT OBLIQUE STRAIN.”
I believe this is the least consequential injury in the history of baseball.
Trust me, the game I’m watching ain’t Braves/Nats.
Why do they have him playing everyday in center, anyway? Is Morgan hurt?
Oh, I bet. Wow, touchdown UGA on 4th down
Hey, Braves tied it up on a McCann 2 RBI single. Jurrjens pitched really well, 7 IP, 2 runs, 2 BB, 7 K
Oh, BTW, Bobby’s left him in over 100 pitches in the 8th for some reason.
This is the worst football game I have ever seen. And I went to a high school that lost 37 games in a row while I was there.
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116 pitches. That’s not bad, and I think Bobby wants to get him a win.
It’s a battle of 2 challenged QBs.
I probably wouldn’t do it, with Jurrjens over 200 IP, but it could be worse.
I think Joe Cox is drunk.
Cox is really fortunate that wasn’t a safety.
There was a receiver in the area, but I thought they might throw the flag on general principles.
Dawgs have had very few penalties today & they’ve avoided turnovers (so far).
I think that taunting penalty on our TE was bogus, but whatever.
And thank goodness we have a great punter—that’s Kevin Butler’s kid.
No win for Jurrjens. He and Vazquez will have a great last club meeting of the year, they can invite Hanson too.
Soriano got his 100 Ks.
Nate McLouth is overrated but this Georgia/LSU fotball game is going down to the wire.
Yet again, a sac bunt in the 9th inning fails to work out.
Nothing like extra innings in the meaningless 161st game of the season.
I’m still waiting to see what AJ Green did to get that penalty.
Those last 2 penalties may cost UGa the game.
Another celebration penalty, on LSU? I’m pretty neutral as a fan for this game, but SEC officiating really sucks.
This game has had 3 “celebration” penalties. None of them should’ve been called & one of ’em is going to help determine who wins the game.
Braves are going to lose, Moylan just gave up 2 runs.
This is why I can’t get excited about football, it gets me angrier than any other sport.
Norton with another chance to end a game. Let’s give him a big hand!
lol Bobby chooses Norton over Diaz with the game on the line and 2 outs
This one’s right up there with the Jasper Sanks “phantom fumble” game.
And Greg Norton comes thru…in a game that doesn’t matter.
I DON’T BELIEVE WHAT I JUST SAW!
The Twins, meanwhile, could conceivably catch the Tigers tonight.
What happened? Gamecenter isn’t updating.
N/m, it updated.
Well, Norton just guaranteed himself another year on the team with that one (sigh). I mean, after all, the last memory Bobby will have of him is a good one.
Norton singled in KJ to tie the game, thereby breaking the software.
And now we bring Manny Acosta in!! I think Bobby wants to go home.
What a freak show.
I hate that I wanted Acosta on our team earlier this year. Man, he blows.
Best thing about this game — McCarver has to watch the whole thing.
Am I the only one here who is glad that the season will be over tomorrow?
Believe me, I am.
GO TWINKIES !!!!!
Go Vikes !!!!!!!
Wait, wrong blog, sorry.
And in case a select few haven’t put two and two together just yet, I live in Minnesota and love it here!
Desultory recap time!
Yeah, but you live in the Fargo suburbs, which are culturally part of North Dakota.