You got it. Along with 25, those are the ones. Not bad for one era.
Sam
on October 9, 2006 at 4:04 pm
@4
No kidding π Makes me glad I got into baseball and saw it all.
csg
on October 9, 2006 at 4:09 pm
Well it appears as if Torre has made it through today as a Yankee, I wonder about tomorrow or the next day. My guess is they are lining up PInella and when he accepts and offer they wil fire Torre. Torre will go to Texas or the windy city
it looks like snow is on the field….denver and baltimore game….it might be tarp though..
Ron
on October 9, 2006 at 4:50 pm
My dream scenario is Torre gets fired, sits out a year, then takes over the Braves when Bobby retires after next year.
csg
on October 9, 2006 at 4:52 pm
think about this
Does anyone think that Torre was trying to make a statement yesterday about moving ARod to 8th? Maybe Torre wants that $7 and a departure. Maybe he is tired of having to win a WS or the season is entirely a failure. Makes sense to me, take the money and run…I’m not saying he was trying to lose, but you have to question that move.
Plus, Postseason A-Rod is Bronx slang for “Cesar Crespo.”
Dan
on October 9, 2006 at 5:28 pm
Why does everyone sound like they want A-Rod? Has the past season taught us nothing? It’s the pitching the Braves need, not hitting.
There was an article I read somewhere yesterday in which Schuerholz made it pretty obvious he’s going to get another starting pitcher through trade or signing. I wish I could find that.
Yes, the Braves need pitching. Yes,that’s the most important aspect of any team.
But A-Rod is an immortal player in a very strange situation—in fact, it’s probably sui generis. If you can get him without wrecking the team, the rotation and/or the salary structure, you gotta try.
Justin
on October 9, 2006 at 6:06 pm
By the way Gary Sheffield opened his big mouth again. He is a piece of shit.
He acts like he is such a great post season player. He hasn’t done shit. What did he hit for the Braves in 2002 and 2003? I think he was something like 2 for 30 those two years.
'Rissa
on October 9, 2006 at 6:08 pm
Not to be one to bring up bad memories, but it was one year ago exactly (nearly to the minute) that Chris Burke hit a home run that left us all in utter disbelief. In a game was all figured we had won, no lessβ¦
Now that we’ve had a year to digest it, I wonder how different would last postseason had been if we had gone to an official game 5?
I know time is supposed to heal, but this still hurts.
'Rissa
on October 9, 2006 at 6:11 pm
BTW, I know we lost on a Sunday, so this is exactly one year later in terms of the DATE, not day.
Robert
on October 9, 2006 at 6:40 pm
6, 10, 29, 31, 47. Maybe 25, depending on what happens in the next year or two.
And of course 19.
kc
on October 9, 2006 at 6:41 pm
Well, Rissa, that was an 18-inning game…so in a way, the Game 5 was played on that same day. Seriously, HoRam was supposed to start game 5, and that sounded so promising you know.
'Rissa
on October 9, 2006 at 6:46 pm
That’s why I said “official.” I always thought it ironic that, inning-wise, we lost in 5 games. It is almost fitting that was the last postseason of the streak. It was basically like the previous 3 (or however many it was we kept losing in 5 games), but it was just different enough to be even more painful.
I do remember being confident with HoRam slated to be on the mound for game five. I think we would have just lost in the NLCS since Smoltz could not have pitched, but at least we might have gotten there.
4Seam
on October 9, 2006 at 6:49 pm
I think Smoltz deserves to have his number and beard retired.
4Seam
on October 9, 2006 at 6:49 pm
In other words, Francouer, shave that nasty thing off your face.
HoRam at home, in daytime (it woulda been a 4 pm game), against Pettitte on 4-days rest. Not a great scenario, but I wish we could’ve rolled the dice there.
4Seam
on October 9, 2006 at 6:50 pm
“My dream scenario is Torre gets fired, sits out a year, then takes over the Braves when Bobby retires after next year.”
I want us to hire Girardi….
4Seam
on October 9, 2006 at 6:55 pm
QUESTION:
Who is the biggest named FA in the off-season?
Sam
on October 9, 2006 at 6:57 pm
@27
Too early. π Otherwise I would have said 16 upright. π
csg
on October 9, 2006 at 7:01 pm
Biggest names that come to mind immediately
Zito, Schmidt, Soriano, Carlos Lee, Barry Bonds (sucks) take your pick
Don’t worry about Zito. My guess is that you’ll see a bidding war between New York teams.
A tidbit: Since the Division Series was added, the St. Louis Cardinals are 20-5 in those NLDS games, winning 5 of those 6 series; they’re 11-23 in the other post-season games, losing 5 of those 6 series. Odd symmetry.
csg
on October 9, 2006 at 11:01 pm
just throwing a couple of other names out there.
Mulder, Randy Wolf, Meche, Woody Williams
Godot
on October 9, 2006 at 11:17 pm
I know there is no precedent, but would anyone want #54 retired?
Leo is synonymous with the Braves playoffs era and was very popular here
and in the FA list, Maddux, Clemens and Pettitte are missing.
4Seam
on October 10, 2006 at 12:20 am
“Mulder, Randy Wolf, Meche, Woody Williams”
“Maddux, Clemens and Pettitte”
We trade Hudson for AROD….we then sign Pettite, Clemens, and Mulder as starters. We makes WOld, meche, and WIlliams our relievers.
I think he meant Sheff’s post-seasons for Atlanta, which did see him hit a collective 3 for 30 in the ’02 and ’03 NLDS Series.
Timo
on October 10, 2006 at 6:49 am
Ah, of course…
csg
on October 10, 2006 at 8:12 am
Sports Radio confirmed this morning that Torre will be the Yankees manager next year!
Marc Schneider
on October 10, 2006 at 8:26 am
The playoffs are a crap shoot. Most prominent players have struggled at one time or another in the playoffs–even someone like Ted Williams. You can’t judge Sheffield or A-Rod or Bonds for that matter on what they do in a few games in the playoffs. Or, for that matter, a manager. Sheffield may be a jerk, but he is one of the best hitters I have ever seen and Francouer can only hope that he has anywhere near that kind of career. Baseball isn’t like football where you can prepare for a particular game–any given game in baseball hinges on a lot of contingencies and breaks. A guy is hot or isn’t hot. The Yankees had an incredible run in the 90s, but they also got a lot of breaks in those years. Firing Torre (or Cox) because they lose in the playoffs is silly.
You might as well pick any five or ten games during the season and fire them if they go 4-6.
As for Zito, he is going to get overpaid by one of the NY teams (or maybe even LA or Boston) and they will find out that pitchers that throw 85 aren’t worth $15 mil per year.
Stu
on October 10, 2006 at 8:37 am
Olney thinks the Padres will land Zito.
csg
on October 10, 2006 at 8:43 am
Zito, with his control problems, would fit in nicely on our staff
csg
on October 10, 2006 at 8:49 am
Video of Garrett Wolfe if you havent seen him. Maybe he can bat leadoff for us next year. This kid is something
I’m certainly glad that that is the case. If managers were fired during the season for going through slumps then the Braves probably would have gone through 4-5 managers in the month of June.
Yep. In the Padres’ post-season history, they are 1-9 vs. St. Louis.
csg
on October 10, 2006 at 12:37 pm
Girardi won NL manager of the year. Has anyone else won that award and been fired in the same year?
Ron
on October 10, 2006 at 12:38 pm
I’m hoping now that the Yankees apparently won’t fire Torre, they’ll go buy up every mediocre free agent starting pitcher in sight thus keeping those pitchers away from the Mets and Phillies. π
If I were Torre, I would tell George to go stick that job up his ass. But Joe likes managing too much, especially the Yankees. It’s a disgrace the way Steinbrenner has treated Torre. YOu would think that they guy would have learned something about baseball after owning the team for 30 years. Managers don’t win or lose playoffs–baseball strategy is the most overrated thing in the world. No one wins or loses because the manager didn’t bunt at the right time. Same with Bobby. The job is to manage the men playing the game, put guys in position where they can be successful, and make adjustments when necessary. Torre does all that; to blame him for not winning in the playoffs is ludicrous even for New York and Steinbrenner. Does anyone seriously think that somehow he is a worse manager than he was in, say, 1998? All managers, including Torre and Bobby, and, I assume Joe McCarthy, make mistakes, but when a team gets its ass kicked like the Yankees did, it’s ridiculous to blame the manager.
csg,
I think Davey Johnson won the award & got fired (or left) after winning it. It was either with Cincy or Baltimore, don’t remember which, but I think it was Angelos.
Oh well. Here’s a good, fun, non-controversial query
What numbers will be retired in Atlanta in the next 5-10 years?
6, 10, 29, 31, 47. Maybe 25, depending on what happens in the next year or two.
Addendum: 29, 31, and 47 will be retired together after The Big Three have all retired from their playing careers.
Flournoy,
You got it. Along with 25, those are the ones. Not bad for one era.
@4
No kidding π Makes me glad I got into baseball and saw it all.
Well it appears as if Torre has made it through today as a Yankee, I wonder about tomorrow or the next day. My guess is they are lining up PInella and when he accepts and offer they wil fire Torre. Torre will go to Texas or the windy city
I’m hearing San Francisco for Torre, who actually lives in Maui.
But if and when he gets fired, he leaves with $7M. Not a bad parachute.
I wonder if he can asked to be fired and still get the money. My guess is Stein is hard to please
He’s getting paid, one way or the other. That’s why he signed the 2-year extension.
Torre lives in Maui? He’s not as dumb as he looks.
who starts game 1 between ST Loui and NY
Glavine and Weaver?
this is the 3rd player between Bball and Football to die during practice this year…Whats up
http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/6044188
damn…..what is going on….this happens way too often.
is anyone watching PTI?
nope, whats up
it looks like snow is on the field….denver and baltimore game….it might be tarp though..
My dream scenario is Torre gets fired, sits out a year, then takes over the Braves when Bobby retires after next year.
think about this
Does anyone think that Torre was trying to make a statement yesterday about moving ARod to 8th? Maybe Torre wants that $7 and a departure. Maybe he is tired of having to win a WS or the season is entirely a failure. Makes sense to me, take the money and run…I’m not saying he was trying to lose, but you have to question that move.
A-Rod was hitting like an 8-hole hitter–besides, it’s not like their lineup is short on mashers. They just all sucked.
Plus, Postseason A-Rod is Bronx slang for “Cesar Crespo.”
Why does everyone sound like they want A-Rod? Has the past season taught us nothing? It’s the pitching the Braves need, not hitting.
There was an article I read somewhere yesterday in which Schuerholz made it pretty obvious he’s going to get another starting pitcher through trade or signing. I wish I could find that.
Yes, the Braves need pitching. Yes,that’s the most important aspect of any team.
But A-Rod is an immortal player in a very strange situation—in fact, it’s probably sui generis. If you can get him without wrecking the team, the rotation and/or the salary structure, you gotta try.
By the way Gary Sheffield opened his big mouth again. He is a piece of shit.
He acts like he is such a great post season player. He hasn’t done shit. What did he hit for the Braves in 2002 and 2003? I think he was something like 2 for 30 those two years.
Not to be one to bring up bad memories, but it was one year ago exactly (nearly to the minute) that Chris Burke hit a home run that left us all in utter disbelief. In a game was all figured we had won, no lessβ¦
Now that we’ve had a year to digest it, I wonder how different would last postseason had been if we had gone to an official game 5?
I know time is supposed to heal, but this still hurts.
BTW, I know we lost on a Sunday, so this is exactly one year later in terms of the DATE, not day.
6, 10, 29, 31, 47. Maybe 25, depending on what happens in the next year or two.
And of course 19.
Well, Rissa, that was an 18-inning game…so in a way, the Game 5 was played on that same day. Seriously, HoRam was supposed to start game 5, and that sounded so promising you know.
That’s why I said “official.” I always thought it ironic that, inning-wise, we lost in 5 games. It is almost fitting that was the last postseason of the streak. It was basically like the previous 3 (or however many it was we kept losing in 5 games), but it was just different enough to be even more painful.
I do remember being confident with HoRam slated to be on the mound for game five. I think we would have just lost in the NLCS since Smoltz could not have pitched, but at least we might have gotten there.
I think Smoltz deserves to have his number and beard retired.
In other words, Francouer, shave that nasty thing off your face.
HoRam at home, in daytime (it woulda been a 4 pm game), against Pettitte on 4-days rest. Not a great scenario, but I wish we could’ve rolled the dice there.
“My dream scenario is Torre gets fired, sits out a year, then takes over the Braves when Bobby retires after next year.”
I want us to hire Girardi….
QUESTION:
Who is the biggest named FA in the off-season?
@27
Too early. π Otherwise I would have said 16 upright. π
Biggest names that come to mind immediately
Zito, Schmidt, Soriano, Carlos Lee, Barry Bonds (sucks) take your pick
Zito
Lee would be nice to have also…
@37:
Hudson II?
No thanks.
Zito, Schmidt, Soriano, Carlos Lee, Barry Bonds (sucks) take your pick
Schmidt, Lee, Zito…..Lee looks to be the best, younger and left handed…
Bonds will need a walker and oxygen tank to make it to the batter’s box next year.
Don’t worry about Zito. My guess is that you’ll see a bidding war between New York teams.
A tidbit: Since the Division Series was added, the St. Louis Cardinals are 20-5 in those NLDS games, winning 5 of those 6 series; they’re 11-23 in the other post-season games, losing 5 of those 6 series. Odd symmetry.
just throwing a couple of other names out there.
Mulder, Randy Wolf, Meche, Woody Williams
I know there is no precedent, but would anyone want #54 retired?
Leo is synonymous with the Braves playoffs era and was very popular here
and in the FA list, Maddux, Clemens and Pettitte are missing.
“Mulder, Randy Wolf, Meche, Woody Williams”
“Maddux, Clemens and Pettitte”
We trade Hudson for AROD….we then sign Pettite, Clemens, and Mulder as starters. We makes WOld, meche, and WIlliams our relievers.
We also sign Soriano, Lee, and Sheffield
I’m not paying for it….
I didn’t realize this until I was watching him pitch the other night, but Woody Williams is 40-years-old.
@ Justin #24:
Gary Sheffield:
Year Team G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG
2003 ATL 155 576 126 190 37 2 39 132 348 86 55 18 4 .419 .604 .330
I think he meant Sheff’s post-seasons for Atlanta, which did see him hit a collective 3 for 30 in the ’02 and ’03 NLDS Series.
Ah, of course…
Sports Radio confirmed this morning that Torre will be the Yankees manager next year!
The playoffs are a crap shoot. Most prominent players have struggled at one time or another in the playoffs–even someone like Ted Williams. You can’t judge Sheffield or A-Rod or Bonds for that matter on what they do in a few games in the playoffs. Or, for that matter, a manager. Sheffield may be a jerk, but he is one of the best hitters I have ever seen and Francouer can only hope that he has anywhere near that kind of career. Baseball isn’t like football where you can prepare for a particular game–any given game in baseball hinges on a lot of contingencies and breaks. A guy is hot or isn’t hot. The Yankees had an incredible run in the 90s, but they also got a lot of breaks in those years. Firing Torre (or Cox) because they lose in the playoffs is silly.
You might as well pick any five or ten games during the season and fire them if they go 4-6.
As for Zito, he is going to get overpaid by one of the NY teams (or maybe even LA or Boston) and they will find out that pitchers that throw 85 aren’t worth $15 mil per year.
Olney thinks the Padres will land Zito.
Zito, with his control problems, would fit in nicely on our staff
Video of Garrett Wolfe if you havent seen him. Maybe he can bat leadoff for us next year. This kid is something
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=262810193
@53
lol
Torre story:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10102006/sports/yankees/hes_joe_ing_nowhere_yankees_george_king.htm
Padres may have big offseason. Looking at Zito, Arod trade, and Matsuzaka and other Japanese players!
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20061010/news_1s10padres.html
Marc #50
Totally agree with you.
When did the Padres become a big payroll team?
I guess they are tired of losing to the Cards!
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=tundra
Marc,
I’m certainly glad that that is the case. If managers were fired during the season for going through slumps then the Braves probably would have gone through 4-5 managers in the month of June.
Yep. In the Padres’ post-season history, they are 1-9 vs. St. Louis.
Girardi won NL manager of the year. Has anyone else won that award and been fired in the same year?
I’m hoping now that the Yankees apparently won’t fire Torre, they’ll go buy up every mediocre free agent starting pitcher in sight thus keeping those pitchers away from the Mets and Phillies. π
Official, Torre is staying
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6047378
If I were Torre, I would tell George to go stick that job up his ass. But Joe likes managing too much, especially the Yankees. It’s a disgrace the way Steinbrenner has treated Torre. YOu would think that they guy would have learned something about baseball after owning the team for 30 years. Managers don’t win or lose playoffs–baseball strategy is the most overrated thing in the world. No one wins or loses because the manager didn’t bunt at the right time. Same with Bobby. The job is to manage the men playing the game, put guys in position where they can be successful, and make adjustments when necessary. Torre does all that; to blame him for not winning in the playoffs is ludicrous even for New York and Steinbrenner. Does anyone seriously think that somehow he is a worse manager than he was in, say, 1998? All managers, including Torre and Bobby, and, I assume Joe McCarthy, make mistakes, but when a team gets its ass kicked like the Yankees did, it’s ridiculous to blame the manager.
funniest post ever…..
http://daveysplace.blogspot.com/
BTW,
Does anyone wanna join fantasy basketball?
League Id#-74680
Password- 102529
Still plenty of spaces open…draft is Saturday.
@#67
Yeah that was a total riot.
I wonder if now that Torre is staying, will they try and trade ARod. This person thinks so.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6047896
Stu, unfortunately, they didn’t list us as possible trade partners…
csg,
I think Davey Johnson won the award & got fired (or left) after winning it. It was either with Cincy or Baltimore, don’t remember which, but I think it was Angelos.