My understanding is that Chipper probably won’t play. Moises Alou might not for the Giants.
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My understanding is that Chipper probably won’t play. Moises Alou might not for the Giants.
Use code “Journal” for a 5% discount.
With 50 games left Francoeur will likely get betwwen 250 and 300 abs or between 249 and 299 plate appearances.
Is 20-60-.300 enough for Frantic (I *really* don’t like Frenchy) to get R-O-Y?
I think it will depend on how Duke, Duffy, Ramirez,and Church will do. Very long Shots McCann and Davies
Has anyone used the term ‘coeur’s Field for Turner Field yet?
I bet we will soon see someone hold up that sign on turner south.
I like Zach Duke’s chances for ROY with the way he pitched the other day. Admittedly that was against the braves who couldn’t hit off anyone as a rookie pitcher, but still…. I’d love to see JF win it.
“Has anyone used the term ‘coeur’s Field for Turner Field yet?”
Clever… if not, they should
If he hits 20 homeruns, well… damn… that would kick ass. It would also be incredibly tough for the voters to ignore. Since many ignore PAs in favor of ABs, his walk (ahem) rate will work in his favor 🙂
I don’t remember who first said it here, but I like the nickname “Jeff Franchise”.
Frantic? Fanchise?
eh…weak nicknames IMO, not that anything ive come up with is better
Is the came in ATL or SF? and what channel is it on?
They both beat Frenchy. Franchise would ware off, for sure. But I like it short-term, all things considered.
The game is on TS, as far as I know. It’s in ATL.
I’m still hoping he hits a couple of sac flies before he gets a walk or another HBP. Something perversely satisfying about a guy having a lower OBP than AVG.
In the South, the game’s on Turner South. In San Fran, it’s on FSN Bay Area.
I like the nickname that Skip Caray used for Jeff:
The Natural
I think it fits him perfectly!
Oh, no. HoHum is pitching. I wasn’t sure. He’s the guy on the staff that I have the least faith in. What’s the over-under on bombs? 2? 3?
‘coeur’s Field: remember, you saw it here first!
My other million dollar idea was that Skip and Pete should start calling their barbeque chop suuuuey. You know,chop as in tomahawk chop and suuuey as in the hog call.
I just watched the clip on the Braves site of the Tooner Field opening. Observing Bud Selig attempting to be personable with small children is frightening.
And I think he looks like a used-car salesman. The creepiest of the Big Four.
He is a used-car salesman.
What kind of cars? Yugos?
Anybody hear the rumor that another big name tested positive for steroids? Apparently it’s been on ESPN radio, NY Daily News, and Boston Herald and will be announced later in the week.
Selig Leasing Company – Commercial Leasing & Leasing Services
He used to have a Ford dealership, too, but I think it’s been sold off.
Pete just said on the radio that (1) Smoltz will start tomorrow, on his usual five days’ rest; (2) Hudson will start Thursday; (3) Sosa will start Friday; (4) Davies will move to the bullpen because the other Kyle, Farnsworth, has dropped his appeal and will not be eligible to pitch until Sunday; and (5) Thomson will start Saturday’s game.
Thomson’s back! This division is so over.
Strange putting Davies in the pen.
I like the idea.
if adam hits into a dp, i am kicking things
He didn’t.
I’m liking this game right now. HoHum needs a big lead.
the giants have courvosier warming up.
I saw this Hennessy guy pitch before, and he was actually pretty good. I don’t know what’s up with him today. I’m glad he decided to lose it against the Braves.
So does everyone still think Betemit is God and LaRoche should be executed??
Based on one plate appearance? Why?
LaRoche got a hit. It kind of evens out with the one he just gave up.
Ooh. Three strikes looking for Ellison. Ramirez has nice control today.
I don’t like how everyone dislikes Adam here. He’s done nothing to warrant it. I hope they work him in to our lineup in ’06. And I still don’t trust Wilson.
Francoeur’s hit was it hard? I don’t remember seeing anyone hit the ball so hard.
Maybe my bashing is helping!
HoHum sucks!
I’m confused as to when a choice between Betemit and LaRoche popped up anywhere.
Not everyone dislikes LaRoche but with Marte not much longer in AAA he better step it up more.
Eh. Everyone is quick to make Adam to odd man out. I think Bobby, John, and Co. will be creative come this offseason. Hopefully keeping LaRoche in town.
Again, how are they going to be “creative”? Chipper was headed to first even before he messed up his shoulder. Are you going to make LaRoche an leftfielder? That would be fun. Andruw would be dead from covering for him by August.
LaRoache isn’t a very good player, especially not for a first baseman. With a GIGANTIC platoon advantage, he’s hitting .257/.311/.459. Against lefties, he’s a dismal .156/.182/.281. He puts up decent numbers for a catcher, maybe, but not for a major league first baseman.
And stuff like that hit he let get by him last inning drives me nuts. He was bailed out by a double play, but that lack of hustle bugs me.
I liked Napolean Dy-No-Mite for Francoeur, but it hasn’t caught on. Obscure movie, too long, it’s dying a well deserved death I imagine.
Has anyone noticed that most major basketball players get a nickname, but that for baseball players it is rare?
yes, mac is right. laroche is going to be out of here one way or the other. call me crazy, but i would much rather have marte and chipper than chipper and laroche. marte will bring the much needed defense to 3rd and chipper will bring… well chipper. it’s a win-win situation for us.
In fact, what are the best Braves nicknames all time? Other than Hammerin’ Hank, not one springs to mind.
Didn’t know that Lance Niekro is the son of Joe Niekro.
The Lemmer (Lemke), The Beeg Boy (Rico Carty), Cha Cha (Orlando Cepeda), The Big Cat (Galarraga), The Kitten (Felix Millan). That’s all for now.
bob horner-“horny”
glenn hubbard-“glenn hobbit”
Well, Rabbit Maranville, but that was an awfully long time ago. The Beeg Boy.
What was the name of that big pitcher with the nickname “Hondo”? Pitched in the late ’60s. Jim Something or Other.
Actually, Marte has 13 errors so far at Richmond in 84 games. Ok but not great. Chipper’s got only 3 in 62 games. Not sure Marte is a great upgrade defensively, although he is sure to improve with time.
The Little Bulldog (Pat Jarvis).
I forgot the Crime Dog. And wasn’t there a Braves reliever with a big fu-man-chu mustache that had a weird nickname?
Forgive my ignornce…
have Chipper to 1B rumors started up? I agree that Marte/Chipper would be better than Chipper/LaRoche
Bedrock (Steve Bedrosian).
And “Knucksie” for Niekro, but I think that’s a communal nickname knuckleballers sharea.
Al Hrabosky — THE MAD HUNGARIAN
Jim Britton is the guy who was nicknamed “Hondo.” He pitched for the Braves in 1967.
KJ’s breaking out of his slump!
Ralph Garr = Roadrunner.
Some guys who weren’t primarily Braves:
Gary Matthews = Sarge
Johnnie “Dusty” Baker
Jimmy Wynn = Toy Cannon
Omar “The Outmaker” Moreno, but that’s unofficial.
Marte will make more errors than Chipper, but he’ll also get to more balls, so he’s a better fielder overall.
*still shaking head re: Francoeur*
Tough outing for Hennessey
Thanks Malone. I could picture Hrabosky, but couldn’t come up with the name for the life of me.
I think “Knucksie” is generally always Niekro.
knucksie – Google Search
Chris Chambliss – the Executive.
Felipe brought in a lefty to pitch to Andruw?!?!?
Larvell “Sugar Bear” Blanks? Does that sound right?
Other relatively meaningless information: Al Hrabosky is a broadcaster for Fox Sports Midwest, hosts a sports radio show in St. Louis, and has his own website. Also, no apparent facial hair.
Yeah, I don’t get that either. I guess he was just bringing out his innings-eater long reliever, and it just happens to be a lefty.
don’t you mean
Johnnie “Most Overrated Manager in History” Baker?
No, I think they mean Jonnie “Arm Killer” Baker.
Thanks Mac. What did we do before google?
It’s great to see KJ get some hits at the top of the order.
Wow. Andruw fought for that walk.
LaRoche just got himself traded.
Remy wins the unoffical nickname contest. Larvell is right. He was with Atlanta for 5 seasons and his total games played add up to about a season and a half. Also, Sugar Bear is tough to beat.
How do you mean, Remy? He can’t be traded now. No way he clears wavers. And a lot of things can happen between now and the end of the season.
Okay, now it’s absurd.
If you guys look at Andruw’s split against left-handed pitchers and right-handed pitchers, you will understand Alou’s decision.
David, calm down on LaRoche man, he drove in our first two runs.
Figure of speech, folks. Didn’t mean to freak everyone out.
On the other hand, we will see Estrada being traded this off-season.
Actually, I’m in LaRoche’s camp, though I agree he could be more productive. I’ll spare the commentary and stick to nicknames!
Doesn’t “Chipper” count as a nickname?
Sure, rub your memory for obscure nicknames in our faces!!
Maybe “Larry”?
Also, I remember Steve Bedrosian was “Bedrock”
I think Chipper does count, but it’s a stupid nickname so it counts just barely. Other than “Smoltzie” also pretty bad are there any other nicknamed Braves on the roster. I suppose we could count the silly things Cox calls his players when he is clapping encouragement—it all involves adding a y, right?
Hey, my head is full of useless, arcane knowledge. Try paying the bills with that! Besides, what’s a geezer to do?
Back to the game…TRADE FUCAL!!
vs. Left:
Franco: .282/.370/.494
LaRoche: .156/.182/.281
vs. Right:
Franco: .292/.337/.472
LaRoche: .269/.325/.480
Chipper doesn’t even have to move to first. Franco every day!
My favorite non-brave was San Diego catcher Doug Gwosdz… “eye chart”
I’m incapable of calling him anything but Larry… somehow I can’t get “Chipper” out in nomral conversation.
There’s these more recent ones:
Pacman = Rafael Belliard
Dirt = Mark Lemke
Skates = Lonnie Smith
Leon = Deione Sanders
OK, I made the last one up. And I guess the others weren’t really all that widely used.
I don’t want to start rumors, but I heard Francoeur is the love child of Chief Knock-a-Homah.
Peon Deion. Well, that’s what I called him. Prime Time, my butt.
I envy it Remy, my skills of recall are degenerating with every google search. I’m of the generation that outsourced its memory to search engines.
I always thought that Otis Nixon looked like a cigar-store Indian, but I could never work that into a nickname.
“Eye Chart” just breaks me.
LaRoche’s home stats: .339/.369/.606
I think Chipper should name his kid Skipper, but that’s just me.
Don’t they call LaRoche “Three-Second Delay” because he’s something of a space cadet?
Washington winning at Houston!
I think Franco drops dead if he has to play everyday. If he can at his age then I’m signing on to the deal with the devil camp. It’s a wingnut position, but no way proper diet and exercise works that well. [I say as I finish my beer]
trade laroche, betemit, and estrada for adam dunn
OK, let’s start writing letters to the front office…LaRoche has to be stopped.
Adam deserves,at the least, a drop in the order behind Francoeur.
throw in kolb as a bonus
Ride Franco into an earlier grave or hope Marte drinks the Francoeur kool-aid? Either one is fine.
Remember David Letterman calling Terry Forester a “fat tub of goo?” Does that count as a nickname?
Do we have a consensus here that we should trade LaRoche this offseason, moving Chipper to first base, and starting Marte at third base?
For fun, guys, you can go to this site to pick a nickname for Jeff Francoeur! Winner gets something from 790 the Zone.
Darn it, Jeff! I love singles, but you were so close to a walk!
Just *can’t* take a pitch. LOL!
I think Marte has earned a shot next year, and he apparently can’t play the outfield nor should Chipper. That doesn’t leave much room for LaRoche.
I guess a single is a walk for Franc the tank
My God. I had no idea LaRoche’s home stats were like that. There should be a home/road platoon. He’s got Coors-level home/road splits! Worse, even.
You know, I just realized that some of the players on this team, like McCann and Francoeur, are actually young enough to have been in high school at the same time I was. Only for a year, true, but that’s scary. I’m getting over the hill!
Just wait until the rookies you’re watching now retire, Jenny. Or until you realize that 80% of the players are now younger than you. I guess those things will come about the same time.
From there, it only gets worse 🙂
Travis Tritt
Go away
You suck
Bite me
OK, -coeur is French for ‘heart’. What’s ‘Fran’? 🙂
Mac? Turner South Commerical?
Yes. Honestly, you guys don’t know what you’re missing.
Oh, Jenny, just wait.
Older than Franco and saw him as a rookie.
Resign Furcal and throw in either Orr or Betemit in the LaRoche trade. Plus with Lerew, Chuck James and Davies ready to start throw in a pitcher.
I know, creynolds, my mom told me to wait until I’m old enough to be these guys’ parents, then complain.
Of course, if you think about it, Julio could reasonably be the parent of many of the guys on the team, say, anyone 27 and under. Wonder how that feels?
Ok Francoeur has one more at bat tonight unless LaRoche makes the 3rd out.
Julio just missed facing his platoon partner’s father. LaLob’s last full year in the majors was with the Yankees, 1982 (he pitched briefly in 1983) and Julio joined the Indians in ’83.
franc, in addition to the (old) currency means free. Francoeur shares the c (in french when letters double up in a word one gets dropped) so it means free-heart.
Are you sure it doesn’t mean “free-swing”?
http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Mathematicians/Francoeur.html – Louis Francoeur, mathematician and astronomer in Napoleon’s era.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0290670/ – Richard Francoeur, French actor, 1894-1961
Those are pretty much the only big Francouers I see on the web… there’s a guy who’s a scientist, too, Allen Francouer, into energy systems, but I didn’t find a real good bio website for him. Just some research fodder for y’all…
I forgot, franc can also mean sincere, so it is also sincere-heart. The kind of last name that strikes fear in the hearts of men (or frenchmen anyway)
Why use Boyer here? Save him for a close game. Use Kolb in these situations.
The ilovefrancoeur site is listing “Braveheart” as a choice. That hadn’t occurred to me, but it’s minimally clever.
Would a “free heart” be the opposite of a Lock(ed)hart?
keep that streak alive Marcus
Sadly, “The Cure” Francoeur is winning in the voting right now. Followed by Hardcoeur, Ball Park Franc, and Francoeurstein. God I hate people sometimes.
Is that two GIDP tonight for LaRoche?
Mac. Those pinch hit homers not withstanding, we can only hope.
“Hardcoeur” cracks me up. It’s so bad. It’s like a WWE name.
Doh!!
some one needs to make a nickname for Laroche out of GIDP.
Speaking of nicknames, the Walking Unibrow grounds into another DP.
Who is the big name going to be that MLB has busted with ‘roids?
Hampton pitched well tongiht in his rehab start.
IF IM NOT GONA PICH WITH A 6RUN LEDE WHYM I ON THE TEEM??!?!?
For a surreal suggestion, I vote we all start calling him Sugar Bear and just hope it catches on…
I think Jenny’s “Frenchy” is as good as anything out there.
I’ve heard speculation that it’s Clemens, since someone said it was a likely HOF pitcher. But I’ve also heard Miguel Tejada, Mike Piazza, and Manny Ramirez.
Nobody knows.
2 gidp and 8 lob. A good night’s work.
Please explain to me why we bring in Brower, who has done nothing but struggle, against his FORMER TEAM? I know we’re up 6, but, well, bring in Kolb!
Is Jenny’s Frenchy different than the frenchy that’s stuck on him now? Is that your fault Jenny?
Gotta be Franchise, the others are so lame. It’s the most marketable even if it is cliche’. Bobby’s nickname for him is probably Frankie.
Franco did play with Bake McBride.
Wow, it is 8 LOB. Yikes. I won’t forget the 2 RBI, but something tells me that the Walking Unibrow may be tweezed in the off-season.
I apologize for the bad joke. If Marcus calls him Cockroach, I think we should be able to.
If it is Clemens, that would be the bigest new in baseball history. He would only miss two starts though. Baseball has a terrible drug policy.
I think the Braves are having Kolb neutered tonight so he does spawn…
Don’t blame Frenchy on me! I heard it somewhere else, probably from one of the fools on the official message board!
I like Franchise. But “Frenchy and Fookie” has a nice ring to it.
Don’t look now, but it’s the Dance of the Struggling Pitchers.
Where are y’all hearing rumors about another big name testing positive? When approached on PTI today, Selig flatly denied it, saying the only even questionable test he’s heard of involves a young player.
Or doesn’t…stupid beer makes typing hard…
No flies on you, Jenny. It’s just that you’re the first person I heard use that name. Not a bad nickname, though.
If it is Clemens, Carpenter’s a lock for the Cy Young.
I worry Franchise is going to stunt his growth. That’s a tough name to grow into. Leaves a lot of room for disappointment.
Wasn’t it Sonny “Two Sheds” Jackson? No, on second thought, it was Arthur (old Monty Python routine).
And Frenchy leaves a lot of room for ridicule.
Chris Dimino from 790 the Zone said McCann is going to get most of the starts over the next couple of weeks because Estrada is very banged up.
Selig flatly denied it
Bear with me for a sec, Joey…but this is BUD SELIG we’re talking about here. BUD SELIG. ‘Nuff said.
And I’ve heard the rumors in the Boston Herald, the NY Daily News, and ESPN Radio. Not the creme de la creme of news sources, but no National Enquirer, either. We’ll see, though.
I read somewhere that Foster had one of the best pct. in the majors for getting the ist batter out with inherited runners on.
Cincinatti’s Willy Mo Pena is unhappy sitting as the 4th outfielder.
Question for fjensen: You mentioned in the other thread that Marcus had HEMORRHOIDS?
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Giles had a bad case of the piles and had to sit out(or stand out) of a week’s worth of games.